Libya under attack - wrong or right? (Page 2)

Date: 21-03-2011 4:15 pm (13 years ago) | Author: Franklyn Adam
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- ajanni at 25-03-2011 08:17 AM (13 years ago)
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notig goes for noting ,
if the western world spend some hundreads on any foreing nation , they will be force to pay back not only in thousands but in millions , they were infact a super thief

Posted: at 25-03-2011 08:17 AM (13 years ago) | Grande Master
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- monday3 at 26-03-2011 01:03 AM (13 years ago)
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big problem don dey start
Posted: at 26-03-2011 01:03 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- williams100 at 26-03-2011 01:37 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: pointwise on 25-03-2011 08:12 AM
As much as we all want Gadafi off the seat of power in Libya, the innocent people of Libya should not be turn to roasted suya in the name of protecting them, millions of innocent Afghans have died in the name of fighting terrorism, another millions of Iraqi's in the name of looking for weapon of mass destruction even after the killing of sadam Hussein. I hope this is not another system of siphoning the Libyan oil. Every nation is supposed to be sovereign.   

VERY WELL SAID MY BROTHER AND I RESPECT YOUR VIEWS THESE WESTERN DICTATORS ARE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL WE MUST NEVER FORGET THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SET UP A MILITARY BASE ON THE CONTINENT RIGHT FROM 1960 DOWN TILL THIS VERY ERA.THESE DEMOCRATIC WESTERNERS ARE VERY GOOD AT DISTABILISING AND CREATING CHAOS AS WELL AS ANARCHY IN A COUNTRY THAT IS NOT DEMOCRATIC BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO INFEST THEM WITH THEIR POLICY OF "DO AS I SAY AND NOT WHAT I DO".THOUGH GADAFFI HAS REALLY TRIED FOR HIS COUNTRY CAUSE IF NOT FOR HIM LIBYA WOULD HAVE BEEN A POVERTY AND HUNGER STRICKEN NATION MORE WORSE THAN NIGER REPUBLIC,AFGHANISTAN AND EVEN UGANDA.IT WILL BE WISE FOR HIM TO STEP DOWN AND LOOK UNTO A SERIOUS MAN THAT WILL  RULE OVER THE COUNTRY POSITIVELY.HE SHOULD HAVE STEPPED DOWN BY CREATING A FORUM WHERE HE WILL TELL MINORITY GROUPS OF THE NATION TO BRING OUT AN INDIVIDUAL AND CREDIBLE ELECTION WILL BE MADE.HE STILL CAN SPEAR HEAD SITUATION IN HIS COUNTRY BECAUSE HE IS STILL THE BEST PRESIDENT LIBYA HAS EVER CREATED.SOME SOURCES EVEN HAD IT THAT HE IS THE BEST IN AFRICA.

AMERICA AND ITS WESTERN ALLIES ARE TRYING TO TEAR DOWN LIBYA FROM DAY ONE BECAUSE THEY KNOW LIBYA HAS AN ADVERSE WEALTH OF PETROLEUM THE ITALIAN COLONIALIST FAILED PREVIOUSLY NOW THEY ARE COMBINING FORCES.I WANT US TO CHECK OUT SOMETHING HERE;
   1989 DURING THE TIANAMEN SQUARE KILLING OF TIBETES AND OTHER CHINESE NATIONALS WHERE REPORT STATED THAT CHINA KILLED SEVERAL THOUSANDS OF ITS OWN INHABITANT WHAT WAS THE REACTION OF THESE SO CALLED WESTERN DICTATORS???NOTHING AT ALL.THEY ONLY SAT DOWN AT THEIR OFFICIAL COUNTRIES AND STARTED RAISING ALL SORTS OF UNFILTERED COMMENT.WHY DIDNT THEY ATTACK CHINA????THEY KNOW IF THEY DID WORLD WAR 3 WILL ERUPT FROM THERE.THEY ARE SCARED OF CHINA.
 WHAT ABOUT OSSETIA BOMBING AND CHECHNYAN BOMBING AND MASSACRE KILLINGS DONE BY THE RUSSIAN MILITARY ON RESIDENCTS OF THESE PROVINCES.WHAT DID THE WORLD DID????STILL AGAIN NOTHING.THEY ARE SACRED TO DEATH TO EVEN CONFRONT RUSSIA BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT RUSSIA IS CAPABLE OF.A COUNTRY WITH THE WORLD LARGEST NUCLEAR ARSENAL RATED TO BE 46OOO NUCLEAR WARHEAD IS NO JOKE BECAUSE THESE STOCKPILES POSSESSED BY RUSSIA CAN DESTROY THE WORLD 2TIMES OVER.
THESE WESTERN DICTATORS SUCCEEDED IN DIVIDING THE KOREAN PENINSULA,BREAKING OF THE SOVIET UNION(USSR),CONTINUOUS CHAOS IN AFGHANISTAN.BUT THEY FAILED IN VIETNAM.I RESPECT THAT COUNTRY ALOT DESPITE THEIR PRESSURE AND TACTICS/TECHNIQUE VIETNAM DID NOT DIVIDE.TODAY THEY ARE REAPING THE FRUIT OF THIER LABOUR.

LOOK AT IRAN AND NORTH KOREA THEY ARE SCARED OF ATTACKING THEM BECAUSE THEY KNOW ATTACKING EITHER OF THESE COUNTRIES WILL DEFINITELY PROJECT WORLD WAR 3.AS IRAN IS THE WORLD 2 LARGEST OIL GIANT AND SHUTTING DOWN HER OIL FACILITIES WILL CAUSE A GLOBAL CHAOS IN THE WORLD AND WE MUST NEVER FORGET THAT IRAN IS THE SECOND STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST AFTER ISREAL BECAUSE SHE HAS ALOT OF ASSYMETRIC WEAPONS THAT CAN CAUSE SERIOUS DESSIMATING CASUALTIES AND FATALITIES TO ANY COUNTRY THAT WILL ATTACK HER SOVEREIGNTY.NORTH KOREA ON THE OTHER HAND HAS ENOUGH WEAPON TO WIPE THE WHOLE MILITARY BASE OF USA IN SOUTH EAST ASIA AND OF COURSE CHINA WILL NEVER ALLOW USA TO ATTACK NORTH KOREA BECAUSE CHINA RECOGNISES THE SOVEREIGNTY OF DPRK.

AM SO ASHAMED THAT THESE PLOT OF QUEST FOR RESOURCE CONTROL OTHER WISE KNOW AS SELFISH EXPLOITATION BY THESE WORLD POWERS OF POLICE DOGS ARE HAPPENING ON AFRICAN SOIL.ITS A SHAME TO AU(AFRICAN UNION)FOR NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.THEY OUGHT TO HAVE RESOLVE THE ISSUE ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE.THE ONLY INTERFERENCE TO BE CONSIDERED HERE SHOULD BE ONLY THE ARAB LEAGUE AND NOTHING ELSE.BUT ITS A PITY LETS SEE HOW FAR THEY ARE WILLING TO GO.I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE WORLD POWERS BUT THEY SHOULD LIMIT THEIR FOREIGN POLICY ON OTHER NATIONS BECAUSE THEY ONLY USE IT ON WEAK NATIONS NOTHING ELSE.

MY COUNTRY NIGERIA SHOULD BE ALERT AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH OUR GOVT IS NOT GOOD I WILL NEVER LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTRY DIVIDED NO MATTER WHAT.AMERICA HAVE SUCCEEDED IN DIVIDING SUDAN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS VAST OIL WELL ON THE BELT OF THE SUDAN PENINSULA AND THEY ARE SET TO GO.REPORTS HAVE SHOWN THAT AMERICA IS FUNDING SOME OF THESE TERRORIST GROUP IN EFFORT TO FIGHT BACK THEIR NATION AND CAUSE CHAOS THAT WILL DRAW GLOBAL ATTENTION IN ORDER FOR THEM THE THUGS OF WAR TO COME INTO PLAY OF THEIR AID RESCUE.WHAT TREASON ON THE PART OF THESE PEOPLE TO BETRAY THEIR OWN NATION.BUT OF COURSE USA HAS CONTINUOUSLY DENIED THESE CLAIMS OF ALLEGATION.BUT I KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO.ABACHA'S DEATH WAS ORCHESTRATED BY USA WITH THEIR COVERT OPERATION IN THE COUNTRY BUT MY SLEEPING MASSES DID NOT KNOW.THEY CAN GO TO ANY LENGTH TO ACHIEVE THEIR SELFISH DESIRES WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE HARM OR IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON THE LIVES OF CITIZENS OF THE ALLEDGED NATION THEY ARE TO STRIKE OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
Posted: at 26-03-2011 01:37 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Rosemerry at 27-03-2011 02:53 AM (13 years ago)
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What was the motive to kill Abacha? What did USA gain from it? Are you imagining things or relying on basic facts?.  We are aware of American imperialism but they are not resposible for everything under the sun.
Posted: at 27-03-2011 02:53 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- dukkieson at 27-03-2011 03:13 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 25-03-2011 07:44 AM
he is just too greedy

That same greed made him to kill his own country men who took to peaceful protest to change status quo. He thinks he is some kind of god. He calls himself 'king of kings of Africa' and 'muslim iman'! If you ask me I will say his rule is coming to an end if only because of the brutality he has perpetrated against his own people.
Posted: at 27-03-2011 03:13 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- ajanni at 27-03-2011 09:16 AM (13 years ago)
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i pity him so
Posted: at 27-03-2011 09:16 AM (13 years ago) | Grande Master
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- williams100 at 27-03-2011 10:37 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: Rosemerry on 27-03-2011 02:53 AM
What was the motive to kill Abacha? What did USA gain from it? Are you imagining things or relying on basic facts?.  We are aware of American imperialism but they are not resposible for everything under the sun.


IT SEEMS YOU HAVE BEEN KEPT OUT OF THE LOOP FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW.WELL JUST SO YOU KNOW THE MOTIVE BY THE AMERICANS TO KILL ABACHA WAS TO STOP HIM FROM ARMING NIGERIA AS A NUCLEAR STATE BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS IN POWER THEN HE HAD CLOSE TIES/RELATIONSHIP WITH LIBYA WHO WAS BUILDING HER NUCLEAR ARSENAL,ALSO WITH NORTH KOREA AND ESPECIALLY PAKISTAN.THE PAKISTANI NUCLEAR SCIENTIST A.Q KHAN WAS TO SECRETLY TEACH THE SPECIALISTS OF ABACHI NUCLEAR SECRETS AND ALSO SELL BLACK MARKET NUCLEAR MATERIALS TO NIGERIA AND ABACHA WAS BUSY BUYING WEAPONS FROM RUSSIA AND HE DID TRIED TO ACQUIRE ASSYMETRIC WEAPONS AS WELL.WHEN HE TRIED TO ATTACK CAMEROON BY WARNING THEM WHAT DID YOU THINK HE WAS DOING AS REGARDS TO THE ISSUE OF BAKASSI PENINSULA???HE EVEN GAVE A WARNING TO PARIS(FRANCE)THAT SHE SHOULD KEEP CLEAR AWAY FROM HER DOMESTIC AND INTERNAL AFFAIR AND WARN OF POSSIBLE STRIKE AND RETALIATION IF THEY MAKE ANY ADVANCES TOWARDS HIS COUNTRY.I HAVE MY SOURCES AND FACTS.

 USA OUSTED HIM OUT BECAUSE HE WAS A MILITARY DICTATOR AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED THEY WANTED A DEMOCRATIC CIVILIAN THEY CAN CONTROL.USA HAVE THE LARGEST NETWORK OF COVERT OPERATIONS IN THE WORLD AND THEY CAN USE YOUR OWN CITIZENS AGAINST YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THERE MUST BE JUDAS IN THE NATION AS WELL.
THEIR GAIN WAS TELLING THE NIGERIAN GOVT WHAT TO DO DURING MEETINGS IN UNITED NATION RANGING FROM ECONOMIC STRATEGIES,HEALTH WISE AND MILITARILY.THEY KNOW THAT IF ABACHA ARM NIGERIA WITH PROLIFIC BALLISTIC ARMISTIC THEN THEIR INTEREST IN THE REGION WILL BE LOST AND AS YOU KNOW USA NEED ALLIES IN ALL REGIONS OF THE WORLD YOU MUST NEVER FORGET THAT.THAT IS THEIR MAIN OBJECTIVE IN THEIR FOREIGN POLICY.

 FAR BACK 2004 OR SO IF I CAN STILL REMEMBER CORRECTLY NIGERIA STRUCK A DEAL WITH KIM JON IL OF NORTH KOREA(DPRK) TO SELL MISSILE TECHNOLOGY TO NIGERIA SO THAT SHE CAN BE INDEPENDENT OF PRODUCING MISSILE AND ROCKET SYSTEM FOR HERSELF AND HER AMBITIOUS SPACE PROGRAM USA INTERVENED AND THREATENED NIGERIA WITH ECONOMIC SANCTION AND OTHERS.NIGERIA PULLED BACK AND CLOSED THE AGREEMENT.SHORTLY AFTER THAT PERIOD NIGERIA WANTED TO BUY A NUCLEAR REACTOR FROM SAME PAKISTAN IN EFFORT TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR ENERGY FOR HER NATIONS ECONOMY.THE REACTOR WAS TO BE STATIONED IN ZAIRIA.USA QUICKLY CAME INTO PLAY AGAIN AND TOLD NIGERIA TO ABANDON SUCH AMBITION OTHERWISE FACE SANCTIONS THEY THINK NIGERIA WANTED TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS JUST THE WAY THEY ARE ACCUSING IRAN NOW OF NUCLEAR ARMAMENT DEVELOPMENT.NIGERIA HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO END THE DEAL.ALL THESE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE WITH COVERT OPERATION ON THE NIGERIAN SIDE WITH THIS COUNTRIES BY CALLING THE PROGRAMME A TOP SECRET PROGRAME AND HIGHLY CLASSIFIED.BUT THEY MADE IT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE AND THE WEST INTERVENED.

YES YOU ARE RIGHT USA IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN BUT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAJORITY.THEY KNOW HOW TO CROSS EVERY TEETH AND DOT EVERY EYE THAT WILL STAND IN THEIR WAY AND THEY TERM IT WITH THIS TERMINOLOGY...."IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COUNTRY AND FOR THE SAKE OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY"..I AM ALSO A MILITARY ANALYST AND I AM UPDATED AND ACQUAINTED WITH THE FULL FACTS REGULARLY.ALL THESE ARE NOT A BLUFF OR ASSUMED MADE UP STORIES
Posted: at 27-03-2011 10:37 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- williams100 at 27-03-2011 10:58 AM (13 years ago)
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@ROSEMERRY..........ALSO,TRY TO TAKE A VERY GOOD LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT THE USA DID TO OUR COUNTRY NIGERIA.TAKE YOUR TIME TO READ THROUGH THIS PLEASE.
          Senator Uba Ahmed, Minister of Labour and Productivity under General Sani Abacha's regime, wielded enormous powers in Alhaji Shehu Shagari’s presidency in the Second Republic as National Secretary of the National Party of Nigeria (NPN), a position he held even as a sitting senator. He held the post in the giddy days leading up to the controversial 1983 election. He succeeded Alhaji Suleiman Takuma and, along with Alhaji Ibrahim Tahir, plotted the position of NPN on most issues. Since then, he has largely operated from political sidelines. Today, he lives a life on the fringe - financially and materially. But apparently the politician's current life of deprivation has not affected the brilliance and schorlarly bent of the man who in this revealing encounter with Nosike Ogbuenyi, shares gripping insights into why Shagari and Major General Muhammadu Buhari (rtd) were toppled.

          The issue of the value of our currency lies at the centre of our political crisis. As far back as 1982, the US government under President Ronald Regan asked the Shehu Shagari government to devalue the Naira by a whopping 500%. Shagari refused on the ground that the measure would impoverish Nigerians. He said it would be suicidal for his government to accept that when the Nigerian economy hasn't got the capacity to raise its production by a corresponding 500%. If he had accepted that request from Reagan under the prevailing economic situation at the time, Nigerians would have been impoverished by over 500%.

          Reagan threatened our government and warned of dire consequences. A lot of arm-twisting economic measures against Nigeria followed from then on. Even the British under Margaret Thatcher joined the Americans. I remember very well in March, 1993, we suddenly woke up one morning and heard that all the buyers of Nigerian oil from Western countries were no more interested in Nigerian oil as sweet as it were and being the best oil available in market.

          It was a natural shock to all of us. We had to stampede President Shagari and take him to the Senate to go over and to within 24 hours to make what we called Economic Stability Act. We therefore imposed imposed import duties, et cetera, moderately so that we will be able to accommodate the intervening period of loss of sales and loss of export of oil until the OPEC which realised with our failure to export oil, OPEC as an organisation will beckon. So they collected two billion dollars to come to our aid.
          It was a natural shock to all of us. We had to stampede President Shagari and take him to the Senate to go over and to within 24 hours to make what we called Economic Stability Act. We therefore imposed imposed import duties, et cetera, moderately so that we will be able to accommodate the intervening period of loss of sales and loss of export of oil until the OPEC which realised with our failure to export oil, OPEC as an organisation will beckon. So they collected two billion dollars to come to our aid.

          This same Reagan took his phone and called King Fahd of Saudi Arabia and said it will be against the interest of America if the OPEC and the Arab countries were to come to the aid of Nigeria with 2 billion dollars. Thus, that kind of amount of money was drastically reduced to 700 million dollars because the OPEC countries were determined to come to our aid and it was Gadafi that brought the cash personally because they couldn't do it through the normal banking transactions in-case the American government will trace it. So since we did not budge to depreciate our naira the way they wanted it we were overthrown by their boys the way he said it.

WHAT DO YOU STILL THINK???...THAT AMERICA IS A GOODY GOODY NATION????THINK SWIFTLY PLEASE.
Posted: at 27-03-2011 10:58 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- williams100 at 27-03-2011 11:19 AM (13 years ago)
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ABACHA WAS KILLED BY WESTERN POWERS BECAUSE,

Abacha refused to accept the IMF loans and structural adjustment programmes recommended by the american financial institutions. Obasanjo was chosen by the americans as Abacha's successor because he agreed to plunge nigeria further into debt and destroy the living standards of the average nigerian.the americans couldnt care less about what Abacha did or did not do for his people - their only interest was in him opening up the nigerian economy  to the whole sale plunder and pillage that they had been enjoying under Babangida, they wanted nigeria to continue on the downward spiral of borrowing more and more money from the IMF so that we would be in so much debt to them they would more or less own our natural resources, this is the level of sophisticated exploitation that the west now operates in africa and thats why Nkrumah referred to it as "neo colonialism" - a new form of exploitation whereby the exploiter does not physically occupy your land but still controls the economic and political destiny of your country by imposing punitive economic policies on the targeted nation which are designed to enrich the predator nation whilst simultaneously impoverishing the targeted nation.

FOR CHRIST SAKE LETS OPEN OUR PRETTY EYES HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NIGERIA OWED PARIS CLUB OVER 20BILLION DOLLARS INITIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE EVEN HAVE OVER 400BILLION DOLLARS IN OUR COUNTRY'S PURSE IN WORLD BANK.ZAMFARA STATE IN NIGERIA OWED JAPANESE GOVT OVER 250MILLION DOLLARS WHICH WAS LATER CANCELLED BY THE JAPANESE ALL IN EXCHANGE FOR OIL AND OTHER BENEFITS.LET US ALL TRY TO LOOK AT THE BACK STAGE OF EVENT AND NOT JUST WHAT WE SEE ON PAPERS AND HEARD ON NEWS ALONE.THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO A NEWS BEEN READ ON THE MEDIA.IT TAKES HIGH SENSE OF CLARITY TO READ BETWEEN THE FINE LINES.
Posted: at 27-03-2011 11:19 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- dukkieson at 28-03-2011 07:28 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: williams100 on 27-03-2011 10:37 AM
Quote from: Rosemerry on 27-03-2011 02:53 AM
What was the motive to kill Abacha? What did USA gain from it? Are you imagining things or relying on basic facts?.  We are aware of American imperialism but they are not resposible for everything under the sun.


IT SEEMS YOU HAVE BEEN KEPT OUT OF THE LOOP FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW.WELL JUST SO YOU KNOW THE MOTIVE BY THE AMERICANS TO KILL ABACHA WAS TO STOP HIM FROM ARMING NIGERIA AS A NUCLEAR STATE BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS IN POWER THEN HE HAD CLOSE TIES/RELATIONSHIP WITH LIBYA WHO WAS BUILDING HER NUCLEAR ARSENAL,ALSO WITH NORTH KOREA AND ESPECIALLY PAKISTAN.THE PAKISTANI NUCLEAR SCIENTIST A.Q KHAN WAS TO SECRETLY TEACH THE SPECIALISTS OF ABACHI NUCLEAR SECRETS AND ALSO SELL BLACK MARKET NUCLEAR MATERIALS TO NIGERIA AND ABACHA WAS BUSY BUYING WEAPONS FROM RUSSIA AND HE DID TRIED TO ACQUIRE ASSYMETRIC WEAPONS AS WELL.WHEN HE TRIED TO ATTACK CAMEROON BY WARNING THEM WHAT DID YOU THINK HE WAS DOING AS REGARDS TO THE ISSUE OF BAKASSI PENINSULA???HE EVEN GAVE A WARNING TO PARIS(FRANCE)THAT SHE SHOULD KEEP CLEAR AWAY FROM HER DOMESTIC AND INTERNAL AFFAIR AND WARN OF POSSIBLE STRIKE AND RETALIATION IF THEY MAKE ANY ADVANCES TOWARDS HIS COUNTRY.I HAVE MY SOURCES AND FACTS.

 USA OUSTED HIM OUT BECAUSE HE WAS A MILITARY DICTATOR AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED THEY WANTED A DEMOCRATIC CIVILIAN THEY CAN CONTROL.USA HAVE THE LARGEST NETWORK OF COVERT OPERATIONS IN THE WORLD AND THEY CAN USE YOUR OWN CITIZENS AGAINST YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THERE MUST BE JUDAS IN THE NATION AS WELL.
THEIR GAIN WAS TELLING THE NIGERIAN GOVT WHAT TO DO DURING MEETINGS IN UNITED NATION RANGING FROM ECONOMIC STRATEGIES,HEALTH WISE AND MILITARILY.THEY KNOW THAT IF ABACHA ARM NIGERIA WITH PROLIFIC BALLISTIC ARMISTIC THEN THEIR INTEREST IN THE REGION WILL BE LOST AND AS YOU KNOW USA NEED ALLIES IN ALL REGIONS OF THE WORLD YOU MUST NEVER FORGET THAT.THAT IS THEIR MAIN OBJECTIVE IN THEIR FOREIGN POLICY.

 FAR BACK 2004 OR SO IF I CAN STILL REMEMBER CORRECTLY NIGERIA STRUCK A DEAL WITH KIM JON IL OF NORTH KOREA(DPRK) TO SELL MISSILE TECHNOLOGY TO NIGERIA SO THAT SHE CAN BE INDEPENDENT OF PRODUCING MISSILE AND ROCKET SYSTEM FOR HERSELF AND HER AMBITIOUS SPACE PROGRAM USA INTERVENED AND THREATENED NIGERIA WITH ECONOMIC SANCTION AND OTHERS.NIGERIA PULLED BACK AND CLOSED THE AGREEMENT.SHORTLY AFTER THAT PERIOD NIGERIA WANTED TO BUY A NUCLEAR REACTOR FROM SAME PAKISTAN IN EFFORT TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR ENERGY FOR HER NATIONS ECONOMY.THE REACTOR WAS TO BE STATIONED IN ZAIRIA.USA QUICKLY CAME INTO PLAY AGAIN AND TOLD NIGERIA TO ABANDON SUCH AMBITION OTHERWISE FACE SANCTIONS THEY THINK NIGERIA WANTED TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS JUST THE WAY THEY ARE ACCUSING IRAN NOW OF NUCLEAR ARMAMENT DEVELOPMENT.NIGERIA HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO END THE DEAL.ALL THESE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE WITH COVERT OPERATION ON THE NIGERIAN SIDE WITH THIS COUNTRIES BY CALLING THE PROGRAMME A TOP SECRET PROGRAME AND HIGHLY CLASSIFIED.BUT THEY MADE IT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE AND THE WEST INTERVENED.

YES YOU ARE RIGHT USA IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN BUT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAJORITY.THEY KNOW HOW TO CROSS EVERY TEETH AND DOT EVERY EYE THAT WILL STAND IN THEIR WAY AND THEY TERM IT WITH THIS TERMINOLOGY...."IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COUNTRY AND FOR THE SAKE OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY"..I AM ALSO A MILITARY ANALYST AND I AM UPDATED AND ACQUAINTED WITH THE FULL FACTS REGULARLY.ALL THESE ARE NOT A BLUFF OR ASSUMED MADE UP STORIES

I think I know a certain degree of facts from your theory. First, Abacha was a very corrupt leader that impoverished Nigeria. You cannot rely on anything coming out of Abacha camp as fact.  If Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries were helpless in the face of American bullying, Nigeria was inevitably powerless. However, you did not explain exactly how the Americans were able to kill Abacha without Nigerian complicity. You are suggesting that we do not have responsible government, which is not a fault of any outsiders but the fault is within us
Posted: at 28-03-2011 07:28 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- ajanni at 28-03-2011 10:53 PM (13 years ago)
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very good points , but i am comming back to the topic again
Posted: at 28-03-2011 10:53 PM (13 years ago) | Grande Master
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- williams100 at 29-03-2011 01:59 AM (13 years ago)
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@dukkieson HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED

BEFORE THE DEATH OF ABACHA FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR WAYS TO GET RID OF HIM BUT IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR THEM BECAUSE ABACHA THEN WAS HAVING ONE OF THE BEST SECRET SERVICE GROUP IN THE WORLD THEY WERE TRAINED IN PAKISTAN AND AS YOU KNOW PAKISTAN HAVE THE BEST INTELLIGENCE AGENCY IN THE WORLD.ABACHA ALSO HAVE ABOUT 3000 ARMIES ALWAYS ON STANDBY WITH HIM IN ARSO ROCK AND THEY ARE ALL LOYAL TO HIM.THEREFORE TRYING TO GET TO HIM WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE.BUT HE HAVE A WEAKNESS WHICH IS FOR THE OPPOSITE SEX.HE CRAVE WOMEN SO MUCH ESPECIALLY PROSTITUTES FROM FOREIGN NATION.
TWO INDIAN PROSTITUTES FROM DUBAI WERE FLOWN INTO NIGERIA TO SATISFY HIS segxwal EGO.BUT THESE TWO INDIAN GIRLS WERE NOT JUST INDIANS THEY WERE COVERT OPERATIVES WORKING FOR CIA.BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TRACE THEIR IDENTITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALIEN NAMES THEY WORK WITH.UAE(DUBAI)HAVE A STRICT RELATIONSHIP WITH WASHINGTON AND THEY KNOW THAT ABACHA ALWAYS SOUGHT FOR PROSTITUTES FROM THESE COUNTRIES SO HE WAS MONITORED TO THE EXTENT THAT IF HE COME AROUND LOOKING FOR PROSTITUTES AGAIN THEY WILL SEND THEIR OPERATIVES TO FINISH THE TASK AT HAND.HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS ABOUT TO BITE,HIM HE FELL FOR IT.THE LADIES CAME INTO NIGERIA AND THEN THE SHOW STARTED.THE LADIES GAVE HIM VIAGRA(segxwal STIMULATING PILLS).FEW MINUTES LATER ABACHA WAS DEAD AND THEY BASE IT ON O.D(ORIGINAL DEATH).POSSIBLY CARDIAC ARREST.NOW YOU MUST UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT OVERDOSE OF VIAGRA DOES NOT KILL IN MINUTES NO MATTER THE MILLIGRAM YOU TAKE IT WILL TAKE HOURS UPON HOURS BUT AM NOT SPECIFIC HOW MANY HOURS BECAUSE EVERY HUMAN SYSTEM DIFFERS.NO MEDICAL AUTOPSY WAS CARRIED OUT ON HIM TO DETERMINE THE IMMINENT SUDDEN DEATH OF HIS.ABACHA IS THE ONLY HEAD OF STATE IN THE WORLD TO DIE WITHOUT AUTOPSY DONE TO KNOW WHAT REALLY KILLED HIM.NEWS MEDIA,PAPERS AND MAGAZINE AT THAT TIME HAS IT THAT HE DIED MINUTES LATER AFTER TAKING VIAGRA.HOW CAN VIAGRA KILL IN MINUTES????HE WAS GIVEN SOME OTHER LETHAL DRUG PROBABLY PROPOFOL I DONT KNOW AND I CANT SAY.

FURTHER MORE,THE LADIES WERE NOT CONFRONTED INSTEAD THEY WERE EXPELLED BACK TO WERE THEY CAME FROM INFACT HOW THEY EVEN LEFT THE COUNTRY STILL REMAINS A MYSTERY TO MANY OF HIS CABINET AND CLOSE FRIENDS TILL DATE.THE LADIES WERE NOT INTERROGATED NOTHING AT ALL.WHICH OUGHT NOT TO BE SO.HE WAS BURIED THAT SAME DAY,WHY WERE THEY IN A HURRY TO BURY HIM???BECAUSE SOME OF OUR PEOPLE HAD A HAND IN THE PLOT THEY WELCOMED THE FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE IDEA THAT THE BEST WAY TO OUST HIM FROM POWER IS TO USE HIS WEAKNESS AGAINST HIM(WOMEN) AND THEY SUCCEEDED.

THESE NEWS MEDIA AND ARSO ROCK PEOPLE AT THAT TIME MADE A PRESS CONFERENCE AND SAID THAT ABACHA DIED MINUTES LATER OF PILLS HE THOUGH WAS VIAGRA.WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE THOUGT??IS A 55YEARS OLD MAN LIKE ABACHA NOT FULLY SIGHTED ENOUGH TO KNOW IF HE WAS TAKING VIAGRA OR NOT AND BESIDES HOW CAN VIAGRA KILL IN MINUTES?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh????THIS IS A ONE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION AM STILL ASKING MYSELF FOR CERTAIN.THE WEST ORCHESTRATED THE ATTACK BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT ATTACKING HIM DIRECTLY WILL CAUSE A MAJOR CONSEQUENCE TO THEIR INTEREST IN THE REGION.
Posted: at 29-03-2011 01:59 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 29-03-2011 09:00 AM (13 years ago)
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i quite agree with you , without collaborators from within , the plan would have failed, so many news we heard about his passing away , some even said he colapse and die  shortly after getting up on the woman , but the most funniest thing was the escaping of the killer ladies without even a single question asked from them them about how ABATCHA was killed
Posted: at 29-03-2011 09:00 AM (13 years ago) | Grande Master
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- williams100 at 29-03-2011 12:54 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 29-03-2011 09:00 AM
i quite agree with you , without collaborators from within , the plan would have failed, so many news we heard about his passing away , some even said he colapse and die  shortly after getting up on the woman , but the most funniest thing was the escaping of the killer ladies without even a single question asked from them them about how ABATCHA was killed
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RESPECT BROTHER.WATCH OUT FOR THE WORDS IN RED AM STILL IN SHOCK OF IT EVEN TILL TODAY.HOW SOME OF OUR PEOPLE WILL ALLOW SUCH THING TO HAPPEN.THAT IS TREASON AND ITS A CAPITAL CRIME PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.EVEN IF WE WANT ABACHA DEAD WE CAN DO IT ON OUR OWN IN OUR OWN SOIL WITH OUR OWN PEOPLE AND NOT SOME SMART POLICE DOGS OR THUGS OF WAR THAT THINK THEY CAN DECIDE THE FAITH OF EVERY NATION TO TELL US WHAT AND WHAT NOT TO DO.THEY CALL THEMSELVES WORLD POWERS.ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THOUGH.ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD IT IS VERY FUNNY.
Posted: at 29-03-2011 12:54 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 29-03-2011 06:41 PM (13 years ago)
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if the wall had not splits, there won,t be chance for the LIZARDS to penentrates it , our problems is within our selves
Posted: at 29-03-2011 06:41 PM (13 years ago) | Grande Master
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- williams100 at 30-03-2011 12:14 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 29-03-2011 06:41 PM
if the wall had not splits, there won,t be chance for the LIZARDS to penentrates it , our problems is within our selves


EXACTLY....PERFECTLY SAID.
Posted: at 30-03-2011 12:14 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 30-03-2011 12:40 PM (13 years ago)
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 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Posted: at 30-03-2011 12:40 PM (13 years ago) | Grande Master
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- harold634 at 30-03-2011 02:16 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: williams100 on 27-03-2011 11:19 AM
ABACHA WAS KILLED BY WESTERN POWERS BECAUSE,

Abacha refused to accept the IMF loans and structural adjustment programmes recommended by the american financial institutions. Obasanjo was chosen by the americans as Abacha's successor because he agreed to plunge nigeria further into debt and destroy the living standards of the average nigerian.the americans couldnt care less about what Abacha did or did not do for his people - their only interest was in him opening up the nigerian economy  to the whole sale plunder and pillage that they had been enjoying under Babangida, they wanted nigeria to continue on the downward spiral of borrowing more and more money from the IMF so that we would be in so much debt to them they would more or less own our natural resources, this is the level of sophisticated exploitation that the west now operates in africa and thats why Nkrumah referred to it as "neo colonialism" - a new form of exploitation whereby the exploiter does not physically occupy your land but still controls the economic and political destiny of your country by imposing punitive economic policies on the targeted nation which are designed to enrich the predator nation whilst simultaneously impoverishing the targeted nation.

FOR CHRIST SAKE LETS OPEN OUR PRETTY EYES HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NIGERIA OWED PARIS CLUB OVER 20BILLION DOLLARS INITIALLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE EVEN HAVE OVER 400BILLION DOLLARS IN OUR COUNTRY'S PURSE IN WORLD BANK.ZAMFARA STATE IN NIGERIA OWED JAPANESE GOVT OVER 250MILLION DOLLARS WHICH WAS LATER CANCELLED BY THE JAPANESE ALL IN EXCHANGE FOR OIL AND OTHER BENEFITS.LET US ALL TRY TO LOOK AT THE BACK STAGE OF EVENT AND NOT JUST WHAT WE SEE ON PAPERS AND HEARD ON NEWS ALONE.THERE IS ALWAYS MORE TO A NEWS BEEN READ ON THE MEDIA.IT TAKES HIGH SENSE OF CLARITY TO READ BETWEEN THE FINE LINES.


@WILLIAMS, DON'T SAY WHAT U DON'T KNOW. I'M A NEPHEW TO A RETIRED MAJOR GENERAL AND MY UNCLE TOLD ME HOW ABACHA WAS MURDERED AND I CAN'T DISCLOSE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE BASED ON SECURITY LEVEL. IF U WANT THE DETAILS, I CAN MAIL IT TO YOUR BOX.
Posted: at 30-03-2011 02:16 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- harold634 at 30-03-2011 02:23 PM (13 years ago)
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THE ARAB LEAGUE OUGHT TO HAVE FIGHT GADAFI THEMSELVS, THEY GAVE CHANCE TO WESTERN WORLD TO COME IN. U DON'T EXPECT THE WESTERN WORLD TO KEEP QUIET WHY GADAFI AND HIS FORCES ARE SHELLING BLOODS OF PROTESTERS. MUBARAB STEP DOWN WITHOUT SHELLING UNESSARY BLOOD. GADAFI DESREVE TO DIE.
Posted: at 30-03-2011 02:23 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- williams100 at 30-03-2011 03:37 PM (13 years ago)
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@HAROLD634
 YOU HAVE YOUR SOURCES AND I HAVE MINE OK.THERE ARE NUMEROUS NEWS PROPAGATED BY MANY PEOPLE TO HIDE THE TRUE DEATH OF ABACHA.IF YOU BELIEVE THE DETAIL YOUR MAJOR GENERAL GAVE TO YOU IS VALID?Huh?.PROFILE THE DETAILS TO MY INBOX AND LET ME SEE,I WILL HAVE TO CROSS REFERENCE IT TO MAKE SURE ITS NOT ONE OF THE FEW DETAILS OF DISCREPANCY I HAVE WITH MY MILITARY SOURCES.

BUT MR HAROLD THE WORD YOU USE "DONT SAY WHAT YOU DONT KNOW".I WILL CONSIDER IT AS AN INEXCUSIBLE AND UNFILTERED CHOICE OF WORD.WE ARE NOT QUARELLING OR HAVING A CONFLICT.WHAT YOU OUGHT TO TELL ME IS THAT MY SOURCE(S) IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE YOU HAVE AND YOU WILL LIKE FOR US TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST BOTH TO GET MORE INSIGHT.

YOU MUST NOT FORGET THAT THERE ARE MANY INTELLIGENCE AGENCY IN THE WORLD LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WE HAVE CIA,NSA,SSA,KGB NOW CALLED FSB,MI5,MI6 AND A HOST OF OTHERS.CHECK THE DECLASSIFIED INFORMATION EACH OF THESE ORGANISATION HAVE ABOUT THE TRUE DEATH OF JFK(JOHN.F KENNEDY AS WELL AS PRINCESS DIANA AND OTHERS)YOU WILL GET TO SEE IT DIFFERS.

LET ME START WITH USA,BEFORE THE SEPT 9/11 ATTACK THERE WAS A HUGE BREACH IN INFORMATION GATHERING AMONG THE US INTELLIGENCE ARM.CIA PRESENTED A REPORT DIFFERENT FROM NSA AND NSA PRESENTED A DIFFERENT REPORT THAT DID NOT CORRESPOND WITH THAT OF FBI OR EVEN CTU(COUNTER TERRORIST UNIT WHICH IS STILL UNDER CIA).YOU CAN SEE THAT DIFFERENT SOURCES WITH THEIR DIFFERENT INFORMATION.

AS YOU SUGGESTED LETS KEEP THIS OFF THE HOOK BY DOING IT THROUGH INBOX PROCESS IF YOU ARE STILL INTERESTED AND AS FOR ME I DONT OBJECT TO IT A BIT AM ALL INTERESTED 100% ALL THE WAY THROUGH WITHOUT DEVIATION
        NO OFFENCE GIVEN AND NONE TAKEN.
Posted: at 30-03-2011 03:37 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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