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Jewish Hatred Against Jesus: Reasons Why the Jews Crucified Jesus

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Topic: Jewish Hatred Against Jesus: Reasons Why the Jews Crucified Jesus (Read 1554 times)
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

"... of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sin alway: For the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost."

I Thessalonians 2:14-16

Reasons Why the Jews Crucified Jesus

    * He claimed Kingship - John 18:33-37; John 19:12-22
    * Telling the truth - Luke 4:21-29, John 8:40
    * Healing on the Sabbath - Matthew 12:9-14, John 5:16
    * Envy - Matthew 27:18, Mark 15:10
    * Blasphemy -
    * (A) Forgiving sins - Matthew 9:1-3, Mark 2:1-7
    * (B) Claiming equality with God - Matthew 26:59-66, Mark 14:61-64, John 10:25-33; 19:7

Jewish Accusations Against Jesus Christ

Genesis 3:15

    * Keeper of bad company - Matthew 9:10-11
    * Of poor, common-stock - Mark 6:3
    * Laborer - Mark 6:3
    * Possessed of Beelzebub - Mark 3:22
    * From the wrong neighborhood - John 7:41, 52
    * A deceiver and hypocrite - John 7:10-13
    * Unlearned - John 7:14-15
    * Had a persecution complex - John 7:20
    * Demon possessed--full of the devil - John 7:20, 10:20, 8:48, 52
    * Provoker to anger - John 7:23
    * A divider of the people - John 7:43
    * Unpopular, not recommended by rulers, unrecognized by leaders - John 7:45-49 (v. 48)
    * False prophet - John 7:50-52
    * Liar, falsifier - John 8:13
    * A bastard - John 8:19
    * Had suicidal tendencies - John 8:22
    * A half-breed - John 8:48
    * Dishonorable - John 8:49
    * Boaster, false representative of God, impostor, self-made man - John 8:53
    * Ungodly, or cometh not from God - John 9:13-16
    * A sinner - John 9:13-16
    * Crazy, insane - John 10:20
    * Perplexing, causing doubt - John 10:22-24
    * A blasphemer - John 10:31-33

Jewish Hatred and Murder Attempts on the Life of Jesus Christ

    * Matthew 2:16 - As a child Herod tried to kill Him.
    * Matthew 12:14, Mark 3:6 - Pharisees held a council with the Herodians to discuss destroying Jesus because He healed a man on the Sabbath day.
    * Luke 4:28-30 - Attempted to throw Him off the hill because of His sermon.
    * John 5:16 - The Jews persecuted Jesus and sought to kill Him for healing the impotent man on the Sabbath day.
    * John 5:18 - Jews sought to kill Jesus because He claimed equality with God.
    * John 7:30-32 - The Jewish plot to arrest Jesus with intent to kill Him for claiming He was from God.
    * John 7:25 - It was common knowledge that the Jews sought to kill Jesus.
    * John 7:40-44 - Some people desired to arrest Jesus with intent to kill Him.
    * John 8:59 - Jews attempted to kill Jesus by stoning Him for claiming that He was God.
    * John 10:31 - The Jews again attempt to kill Jesus by stoning for claiming His Deity.
    * John 10:39 - The Jews sought to take Jesus for proving His Deity.
    * John 11:47 - The chief priests and Pharisees plot against Jesus.
    * John 11:53-54 - The Jews make a determined effort to kill Jesus.
    * John 11:55-57 - The Jews sought Jesus even at the Pover Feast.
    * John 12:9-11 - The Jews even desire to kill Lazarus because of their hatred for Jesus.
    * John 18:3, 10, 12 - Jesus was arrested by Jewish soldiers.
    * John 18:13-14 - Jesus was tried by Jewish leaders who had already decided on his guilt.
    * John 18:36 - Jesus acknowledges that it was the Jews who would kill Him.
    * John 18:38-40, 19:1-7, 12-15 - The Jews are adamant in their desire to kill Jesus.
    * John 19:11 - Jesus acknowledges a lesser and a greater sin in those who condemned Him to death.
    * John 19:16-18 - The Jews led Jesus away to be crucified.

The Talmud

The Talmud is a vast literary work written by Jewish Rabbis that contains civil and religious law. It is not a part of the inspired sacred Scripture. The Palestinian Talmud was written in the 3rd century AD, while the Babylonian Talmud was written around 500 AD. It contains discussions concerning every aspect of Jewish life and thought. The Talmud was written by Jewish Rabbis who were men of 'perverse minds and destitute of the truth'.
Concerning the names of Jesus, the Talmud refers to Him as:

    * Immach Schemo Vezikro which means, "May His name and memory be blotted out."
    * Otho Isch = "That man"
    * Peloni = "A certain one"
    * Naggar Bar Naggar = "The carpenter son of a carpenter"
    * Ben Charsch etaim = "The son of a wood worker"
    * Talui = "The one who was hanged"

Concerning Christ Himself, the Talmud accuses Him of being:

    * Illegitimate
    * Possessed by the soul of Esau and being Esau himself.
    * A fool and insane
    * A conjurer and a magician
    * An idolater
    * A seducer
    * Crucified For His crimes
    * Buried in Hell
    * Wrongfully worshipped
    * An idol

The Talmud condemns the teaching of Christ as follows:

    * Falsehood
    * Heresy
    * Impossible to observe
    * Illegitimate
    * Possessed by the soul of Esau and being Esau himself.
    * A fool and insane
    * A conjurer and a magician
    * An idolater
    * A seducer
    * Crucified For His crimes
    * Buried in Hell
    * Wrongfully worshipped
    * An idol

The Talmud condemns the teaching of Christ as follows:

    * Falsehood
    * Heresy
    * Impossible to observe

Taken from "The Talmud Unmasked"
By Rev. I.B. Pranaitis 1892 pp28-41



23 May 11, 11:47 AM
mubaji (1067)
3 years ago

what an educating topic.
more grease to your elbow, brother.


23 May 11, 05:12 PM
chik001 (1525)
3 years ago

...Chei...Cadanre...where have you been...?
...you've been missing in action...I thought you were in Libya or some Far Mid Eastern country for Jihad purposes...

23 May 11, 06:30 PM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

Quote from: chik001 on 23 May 11, 06:30 PM
...Chei...Cadanre...where have you been...?
...you've been missing in action...I thought you were in Libya or some Far Mid Eastern country for Jihad purposes...


I will not act like a crusader. You were mistaken for I have been at home handling some more pressing activities. Now I am free and back to action and I have this topic for you.  Grin Grin


23 May 11, 06:58 PM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

Quote from: mubaji on 23 May 11, 05:12 PM
what an educating topic.
more grease to your elbow, brother.


Thank you.


23 May 11, 07:26 PM
chik001 (1525)
3 years ago

Quote from: cadanre on 23 May 11, 06:58 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 23 May 11, 06:30 PM
...Chei...Cadanre...where have you been...?
...you've been missing in action...I thought you were in Libya or some Far Mid Eastern country for Jihad purposes...


I will not act like a crusader. You were mistaken for I have been at home handling some more pressing activities. Now I am free and back to action and I have this topic for you.  Grin Grin

...could you please sincerely answer this question:
... with all these accusation...if you were born in the time of Christ...would you have taken part in his crucification...?

24 May 11, 08:23 PM
CammyWhite (1911)
3 years ago

And here am I thinking that the Romans were responsible for that!

BTW, a quick web search later...

The Talmud unmasked (Latin: Christianus in Talmud Iudaeorum: sive, Rabbinicae doctrinae Christiani secreta) is book written in 1892 by Justinas Bonaventure Pranaitis (1861–1917). The book, generally regarded as antisemitic, is a collection of quotes from the Talmud and Zohar which purports to demonstrate that Judaism despises non-Jews and promotes the murder of non-Jews. While most of the quotes are accurate, some are fabricated, and others are taken out of context. Pranaitis could not read Aramaic or Hebrew (the languages of the Talmud), and probably used works by August Rohling and others as his sources. Various elements tend to prove that the author, whose incompetence will be established unambiguous at the time of the Beilis trial, ignores the rabbinical literature which he intends to describe, unlike other Christian polemists from which he largely borrows. Pranaitis was not able to read Aramaic, the primary language of the Talmud, and so he relied primarily on the works of Jakob Ecker and August Rohling.

The Talmud unmasked, is actually a misleading and inaccurate book, presenting false quotations of the Talmud, intended inter alia making believe that the Jews would not regard the not-Jews as human beings and that it would conceal blasphemous towards Jesus-Christ and offensive pages towards the Christians. This work is comparable with The Protocols of the Elders of Zion...

The book includes numerous quotes from the Talmud and the Zohar, and Pranaitis presents the Zohar as if it were part of the Talmud, however the Zohar is a thirteenth century Kabbalistic work and is not part of the Talmud. His ignorance of some simple Talmudic aramaic concepts and definitions, such as "hullin" has been demonstrated during the Menahem Mendel Beilis blood libel case in which he testified as a "Talmud expert".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talmud_Unmasked

24 May 11, 11:39 PM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

Quote from: chik001 on 24 May 11, 08:23 PM
Quote from: cadanre on 23 May 11, 06:58 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 23 May 11, 06:30 PM
...Chei...Cadanre...where have you been...?
...you've been missing in action...I thought you were in Libya or some Far Mid Eastern country for Jihad purposes...


I will not act like a crusader. You were mistaken for I have been at home handling some more pressing activities. Now I am free and back to action and I have this topic for you.  Grin Grin

...could you please sincerely answer this question:
... with all these accusation...if you were born in the time of Christ...would you have taken part in his crucification...?

That was if I were born at that time. Sorry! I was not born at that time, I was born just some few years ago. I cannot imagine how it will feel to be 2000 years ago.

Let me ask you chik, If to say you were born during the crusade periods, would you join the gang of thousands of Christians who paraded from different parts of Europe and match towards the holy land, killing every Muslim and Jew from village to village, from town to town, from island to island? Would you sincerely take part in that or not?


25 May 11, 11:43 AM
chik001 (1525)
3 years ago

Quote from: cadanre on 25 May 11, 11:43 AM
Quote from: chik001 on 24 May 11, 08:23 PM
Quote from: cadanre on 23 May 11, 06:58 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 23 May 11, 06:30 PM
...Chei...Cadanre...where have you been...?
...you've been missing in action...I thought you were in Libya or some Far Mid Eastern country for Jihad purposes...


I will not act like a crusader. You were mistaken for I have been at home handling some more pressing activities. Now I am free and back to action and I have this topic for you.  Grin Grin

...could you please sincerely answer this question:
... with all these accusation...if you were born in the time of Christ...would you have taken part in his crucification...?

That was if I were born at that time. Sorry! I was not born at that time, I was born just some few years ago. I cannot imagine how it will feel to be 2000 years ago.

Let me ask you chik, If to say you were born during the crusade periods, would you join the gang of thousands of Christians who paraded from different parts of Europe and match towards the holy land, killing every Muslim and Jew from village to village, from town to town, from island to island? Would you sincerely take part in that or not?

...I can see now how you were able to deny the facts of history...
I don't think you know much about the crusades...if you do...you would have known that it all started when the Christians in The then Byzantine empire which was headed by the Muslim caliphs { Rashidun Caliphate after the death of Mohammed)were being oppressed...

25 May 11, 07:18 PM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

Quote from: chik001 on 25 May 11, 07:18 PM
Quote from: cadanre on 25 May 11, 11:43 AM
Quote from: chik001 on 24 May 11, 08:23 PM
Quote from: cadanre on 23 May 11, 06:58 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 23 May 11, 06:30 PM
...Chei...Cadanre...where have you been...?
...you've been missing in action...I thought you were in Libya or some Far Mid Eastern country for Jihad purposes...


I will not act like a crusader. You were mistaken for I have been at home handling some more pressing activities. Now I am free and back to action and I have this topic for you.  Grin Grin

...could you please sincerely answer this question:
... with all these accusation...if you were born in the time of Christ...would you have taken part in his crucification...?

That was if I were born at that time. Sorry! I was not born at that time, I was born just some few years ago. I cannot imagine how it will feel to be 2000 years ago.

Let me ask you chik, If to say you were born during the crusade periods, would you join the gang of thousands of Christians who paraded from different parts of Europe and match towards the holy land, killing every Muslim and Jew from village to village, from town to town, from island to island? Would you sincerely take part in that or not?

...I can see now how you were able to deny the facts of history...
I don't think you know much about the crusades...if you do...you would have known that it all started when the Christians in The then Byzantine empire which was headed by the Muslim caliphs { Rashidun Caliphate after the death of Mohammed)were being oppressed...

Sure?


27 May 11, 10:34 AM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

Let us handle the introduction.

The Crusades were a series of religiously sanctioned military campaigns, waged by much of Roman Catholic Europe, particularly the Franks of France and the Holy Roman Empire. The specific crusades to restore Christian control of the Holy Land were fought over a period of nearly 200 years, between 1095 and 1291. Other campaigns in Spain and Eastern Europe continued into the 15th century. The Crusades were fought mainly by Roman Catholic forces (taking place after the East–West Schism and mostly before the Protestant Reformation) against Muslims who had occupied the near east since the time of the Rashidun Caliphate, although campaigns were also waged against pagan Slavs, pagan Balts, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, Waldensians, Old Prussians, and political enemies of the various popes. Orthodox Christians also took part in fighting against Islamic forces in some Crusades. Crusaders took vows and were granted a plenary indulgence.

I wonder what involves the highlighted groups including Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians. So, I am still wondering that crusade was waged against other Christians. Just like a brother sucking the blood of his own brother in the name of HOLY WAR..............


27 May 11, 10:59 AM
chik001 (1525)
3 years ago

Quote from: cadanre on 27 May 11, 10:59 AM
Let us handle the introduction.

The Crusades were a series of religiously sanctioned military campaigns, waged by much of Roman Catholic Europe, particularly the Franks of France and the Holy Roman Empire. The specific crusades to restore Christian control of the Holy Land were fought over a period of nearly 200 years, between 1095 and 1291. Other campaigns in Spain and Eastern Europe continued into the 15th century. The Crusades were fought mainly by Roman Catholic forces (taking place after the East–West Schism and mostly before the Protestant Reformation) against Muslims who had occupied the near east since the time of the Rashidun Caliphate, although campaigns were also waged against pagan Slavs, pagan Balts, Jews, Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians, Mongols, Cathars, Hussites, Waldensians, Old Prussians, and political enemies of the various popes. Orthodox Christians also took part in fighting against Islamic forces in some Crusades. Crusaders took vows and were granted a plenary indulgence.

I wonder what involves the highlighted groups including Russian and Greek Orthodox Christians. So, I am still wondering that crusade was waged against other Christians. Just like a brother sucking the blood of his own brother in the name of HOLY WAR..............

...The crusade was politically motivated...and carried out by extremist in the name of Christianity...which todays Christian found unacceptable....
 if you don't agree with that...then that means you support the violence being perpetuated by your fellow Islamic extremist...


27 May 11, 07:00 PM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

@ chik0000000000000000000001

You know I am not a small boy. Stop wasting your time telling us that crusade was politically motivated. Even if it was, Christians did it and they did it in the name of Christianity. It has a legal backing from pope all christian priests, bishops and all those TOP LADDER CHRISTIANS. The journey to the blood bath was led by Very prominent persons with full backing from all angles of Christianity.

Let me tell you this and if you have any proof to say I am lying bring it. CRUSADE WAS A RELIGIOUS JOURNEY TO BLOOD BATH WHICH WAS MOST TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND IN OUR HISTORY. IT SWEPT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS, JEWS, SLAVS AND EVEN SOME OTHER GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS; JUST TO MENTION A FEW. SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. HISTORY WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.


27 May 11, 07:19 PM
CammyWhite (1911)
3 years ago

Quote from: cadanre on 27 May 11, 07:19 PM
CRUSADE WAS A RELIGIOUS JOURNEY TO BLOOD BATH WHICH WAS MOST TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND IN OUR HISTORY. IT SWEPT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS, JEWS, SLAVS AND EVEN SOME OTHER GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS; JUST TO MENTION A FEW. SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. HISTORY WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

So you're placing the Crusade (I'll ume the First) over the Shoah (Holocaust) and that of the Rom people, the Armenian Genocide, the slaughters in Cambodia under Pol Pot, and the Tai'Ping Rebellion? I think history will prove you wrong. 

28 May 11, 12:10 AM
chik001 (1525)
3 years ago

Quote from: cadanre on 27 May 11, 07:19 PM
@ chik0000000000000000000001

You know I am not a small boy. Stop wasting your time telling us that crusade was politically motivated. Even if it was, Christians did it and they did it in the name of Christianity. It has a legal backing from pope all christian priests, bishops and all those TOP LADDER CHRISTIANS. The journey to the blood bath was led by Very prominent persons with full backing from all angles of Christianity.

Let me tell you this and if you have any proof to say I am lying bring it. CRUSADE WAS A RELIGIOUS JOURNEY TO BLOOD BATH WHICH WAS MOST TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND IN OUR HISTORY. IT SWEPT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS, JEWS, SLAVS AND EVEN SOME OTHER GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS; JUST TO MENTION A FEW. SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. HISTORY WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

...No one is saying that the crusade did not happen...especially in the history books...
...whether is was backed by popes or priest does not make it True Christian doctrine...
...If you are not a small boy...then you should understand that people commit crime in the name of religion / Christianity...
...There is never...(or if there is show us)...in Jesus The Christ's own words where HE encouraged anyone on violence...intimidation and slaughter of the innocent...
...so if anyone did it or doing it...it is for their own Political motives and not True Christianity...

28 May 11, 12:25 PM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

Quote from: CammyWhite on 28 May 11, 12:10 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 27 May 11, 07:19 PM
CRUSADE WAS A RELIGIOUS JOURNEY TO BLOOD BATH WHICH WAS MOST TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND IN OUR HISTORY. IT SWEPT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS, JEWS, SLAVS AND EVEN SOME OTHER GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS; JUST TO MENTION A FEW. SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. HISTORY WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

So you're placing the Crusade (I'll ume the First) over the Shoah (Holocaust) and that of the Rom people, the Armenian Genocide, the slaughters in Cambodia under Pol Pot, and the Tai'Ping Rebellion? I think history will prove you wrong. 

May be you did not read the whole comment that is why you could not understand me clearly. Let me quote myself: "SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION"


30 May 11, 06:48 PM
CammyWhite (1911)
3 years ago

Quote from: cadanre on 30 May 11, 06:48 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on 28 May 11, 12:10 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 27 May 11, 07:19 PM
CRUSADE WAS A RELIGIOUS JOURNEY TO BLOOD BATH WHICH WAS MOST TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND IN OUR HISTORY. IT SWEPT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS, JEWS, SLAVS AND EVEN SOME OTHER GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS; JUST TO MENTION A FEW. SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. HISTORY WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

So you're placing the Crusade (I'll ume the First) over the Shoah (Holocaust) and that of the Rom people, the Armenian Genocide, the slaughters in Cambodia under Pol Pot, and the Tai'Ping Rebellion? I think history will prove you wrong. 

May be you did not read the whole comment that is why you could not understand me clearly. Let me quote myself: "SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION"

I don't care about the motives for m slaughter or genocide. In any event, both the Shoah and the Tai-Ping war were based on religion, so your point is rebutted.

31 May 11, 12:37 AM
chik001 (1525)
3 years ago

Quote from: CammyWhite on 31 May 11, 12:37 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 30 May 11, 06:48 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on 28 May 11, 12:10 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 27 May 11, 07:19 PM
CRUSADE WAS A RELIGIOUS JOURNEY TO BLOOD BATH WHICH WAS MOST TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND IN OUR HISTORY. IT SWEPT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS, JEWS, SLAVS AND EVEN SOME OTHER GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS; JUST TO MENTION A FEW. SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. HISTORY WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

So you're placing the Crusade (I'll ume the First) over the Shoah (Holocaust) and that of the Rom people, the Armenian Genocide, the slaughters in Cambodia under Pol Pot, and the Tai'Ping Rebellion? I think history will prove you wrong. 

May be you did not read the whole comment that is why you could not understand me clearly. Let me quote myself: "SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION"

I don't care about the motives for m slaughter or genocide. In any event, both the Shoah and the Tai-Ping war were based on religion, so your point is rebutted.

..." IN THE NAME OF RELIGION"...does not necessarily mean its in the doctrine of that religion...

31 May 11, 08:48 PM
CammyWhite (1911)
3 years ago

Quote from: chik001 on 31 May 11, 08:48 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on 31 May 11, 12:37 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 30 May 11, 06:48 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on 28 May 11, 12:10 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 27 May 11, 07:19 PM
CRUSADE WAS A RELIGIOUS JOURNEY TO BLOOD BATH WHICH WAS MOST TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN KIND IN OUR HISTORY. IT SWEPT THE LIVES OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS, JEWS, SLAVS AND EVEN SOME OTHER GROUPS OF CHRISTIANS; JUST TO MENTION A FEW. SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. HISTORY WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

So you're placing the Crusade (I'll ume the First) over the Shoah (Holocaust) and that of the Rom people, the Armenian Genocide, the slaughters in Cambodia under Pol Pot, and the Tai'Ping Rebellion? I think history will prove you wrong. 

May be you did not read the whole comment that is why you could not understand me clearly. Let me quote myself: "SUCH HAVE NEVER BEEN CARRIED OUT IN HUMAN HISTORY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION"

I don't care about the motives for m slaughter or genocide. In any event, both the Shoah and the Tai-Ping war were based on religion, so your point is rebutted.

..." IN THE NAME OF RELIGION"...does not necessarily mean its in the doctrine of that religion...

True, however my issue with Cadanre isn't that, but that he's wrong, and obsessing on the Crusades as well, which is (almost literally) ancient history by now. What's happening now is what's relevant.

1 Jun 11, 12:17 AM
cadanre (9401)
3 years ago

@ cammywhite & co.

May be you have to look at the heading and also the body of my post again. It dealt with some facts that happened nearly 2000 years ago. Saying it is ancient or not is irrelevant to this topic.


2 Jun 11, 10:57 AM
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