It's a common practice during church/christian marriage to hear the officiating minister asking wedding couples to repeat such words as; '...will you take...to be your lawfully wedded wife/husband,for better for worse,in sickness and in health,for richer,for poorer till death do you part' and the congregation usually enthused 'amen'.Whether this church 'ritual' was biblical nobody cared a hoot about it let alone the effect of such confessions on the marriage.My position stems from the Bible positions in Proverbs 18:21-The power of life and death is in the tongue-;James 3:6-...the tongue is a fire,...;and it is set on fire of hell.Also,the scriptures said that thou shall decree a thing and it shall be established unto you.This being the case,why decree sickness,poverty and even worse condition upon/on marriages?
Posted: at 15-06-2011 05:27 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
frayobkk at 15-06-2011 05:38 PM (12 years ago) (m)
Matthew 19:3-9 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” They said to him, “Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce and to send her away?” If two become one how then will you separate from ur own body?
Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." Luke 18:27
Posted: at 15-06-2011 05:38 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
@Chik001 The scripture is explicitly clear on the issue of health as it is very possible to live without being sick.Isaiah 53:4-5 summarily showed that by His stripes we WERE healed.Note that the healing is not anticipated because it is a done deal and if that is the case,a believer cannot be sick.Just hold on before you loose your cool,remember that Romans 8:17 said that we are heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ;what does it suggest to you?When you read 2 Peter 1:4,10-11,it talks about the new creation being a partaker of the divine nature of God.This means that a christian who is born again is not a mere mortal as he has divinity dwelling in him and for this reason,he cannot be sick.In 1 Peter 2:24,the scriptures said that Christ bore the sins of the world in His body and by His stripes we were healed.However,talking about sickness,it is a baby in Christ that needs healing.Galatians 4:1 makes this very clear for as long as an heir remains a child,there is no difference between him and a servant.Also,Matthew 15:21-28 describe healing as the children's bread;so you can choose to remain a child and continue to ask or need healing when divine health is your present hour inheritance in Christ.In conclusion,the problem is that most christians do not know who they really are and what right they have in Christ Jesus.No wonder the scriptures says in Hosea 4:6 my people suffer for lack of knowledge (information).When you know that you no longer live for yourself but unto God in Christ Jesus then you would also know that divine health is a higher revelation than healing.
Posted: at 20-06-2011 08:19 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
...most time I use to wonder why other religions that copied from Christianity now see themselves as better... ...I came to a conclusion that...the so called body of Christ are so divided...each person sprout from wherever and give their own interpretation of the word... ...having clearly read it that a house that have division will not stand...while the powers and principalities stand in legion...regimental...organized...ready to attack...and destroy... ...Heavens light...forever...my guide...
Posted: at 21-06-2011 08:27 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
@Chikoo1 The body of Christ is not divided.The truth is that some walk in the spirit and some do not even believe that the spirit of God can dwell in man as a result,they do not even understand some of the declaration they make.For instance,most christians readily declare '...greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world'.Now,who is he that is referred to in 1 John 4:4 qouted above? Some tend to hold more tenaciously to their religious rituals than search the scriptures to understand it and allow the will of God in their lifes.The kingdom of God cannot be comprehended with our sensory perceptions,it is not by observation.Remember what Christ told Thomas when he never believed that Christ is risen in John 20:29? You believe because you have seen me,blessed is he who has not seen but believe.Finally,the scriptures I quoted are very straightforward and I have not subjected them to any other interpretations,check them out.The sword of the spirit in Ephesians 6:16-17 is in your mouth so we have to be careful about the things we confess.
Posted: at 21-06-2011 08:49 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
@Chikoo1 The body of Christ is not divided.The truth is that some walk in the spirit and some do not even believe that the spirit of God can dwell in man as a result,they do not even understand some of the declaration they make.For instance,most christians readily declare '...greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world'.Now,who is he that is referred to in 1 John 4:4 qouted above? Some tend to hold more tenaciously to their religious rituals than search the scriptures to understand it and allow the will of God in their lifes.The kingdom of God cannot be comprehended with our sensory perceptions,it is not by observation.Remember what Christ told Thomas when he never believed that Christ is risen in John 20:29? You believe because you have seen me,blessed is he who has not seen but believe.Finally,the scriptures I quoted are very straightforward and I have not subjected them to any other interpretations,check them out.The sword of the spirit in Ephesians 6:16-17 is in your mouth so we have to be careful about the things we confess.
...who are they...what makes you thinks that THEY are wrong in their walk with God... ...the scriptures you quoted...yes... are straight forward with your own interpretation of it... ...I no wan fight o..!!
Posted: at 23-06-2011 07:29 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
mchinwendu at 1-07-2011 11:25 AM (12 years ago) (f)
Quote from: hosbert on 20-06-2011 08:19 PM
@Chik001 The scripture is explicitly clear on the issue of health as it is very possible to live without being sick.Isaiah 53:4-5 summarily showed that by His stripes we WERE healed.Note that the healing is not anticipated because it is a done deal and if that is the case,a believer cannot be sick.Just hold on before you loose your cool,remember that Romans 8:17 said that we are heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ;what does it suggest to you?When you read 2 Peter 1:4,10-11,it talks about the new creation being a partaker of the divine nature of God.This means that a christian who is born again is not a mere mortal as he has divinity dwelling in him and for this reason,he cannot be sick.In 1 Peter 2:24,the scriptures said that Christ bore the sins of the world in His body and by His stripes we were healed.However,talking about sickness,it is a baby in Christ that needs healing.Galatians 4:1 makes this very clear for as long as an heir remains a child,there is no difference between him and a servant.Also,Matthew 15:21-28 describe healing as the children's bread;so you can choose to remain a child and continue to ask or need healing when divine health is your present hour inheritance in Christ.In conclusion,the problem is that most christians do not know who they really are and what right they have in Christ Jesus.No wonder the scriptures says in Hosea 4:6 my people suffer for lack of knowledge (information).When you know that you no longer live for yourself but unto God in Christ Jesus then you would also know that divine health is a higher revelation than healing.
Dear Poster,
Ok.... I now hear what you are saying. It's true, some things have crept in that should not be. Haven't thought about it relating to marriage vows but it's a very good point you bring out. I will take a look at this myself also.
It is very important to know who you are as a Christian and who you are in Jesus Christ.
Thank you
Posted: at 1-07-2011 11:25 AM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
...most time I use to wonder why other religions that copied from Christianity now see themselves as better... ...I came to a conclusion that...the so called body of Christ are so divided...each person sprout from wherever and give their own interpretation of the word... ...having clearly read it that a house that have division will not stand...while the powers and principalities stand in legion...regimental...organized...ready to attack...and destroy... ...Heavens light...forever...my guide...
Copy what from Christianity?
IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA
Posted: at 1-07-2011 12:45 PM (12 years ago) | Hero
...most time I use to wonder why other religions that copied from Christianity now see themselves as better... ...I came to a conclusion that...the so called body of Christ are so divided...each person sprout from wherever and give their own interpretation of the word... ...having clearly read it that a house that have division will not stand...while the powers and principalities stand in legion...regimental...organized...ready to attack...and destroy... ...Heavens light...forever...my guide...
Copy what from Christianity?
...most part of the Koran is copied from The Christian...Jewish...Hindu codex...
Posted: at 1-07-2011 04:17 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
Hey guys,let us learn to talk rightly.Our confession can make or mar our marriages.There is power in positive confession especially if anchored on the word of God.
Posted: at 8-07-2011 06:01 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
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