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Topic: DIPLOMATIC THREAT: European hotages killed in Nigeria on a failed rescue mission (Page 34) (Read 18602 times)
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Why do you continue to deceive yourself? Why are u such a fool? You think you can come here to fool anyone. You better go and fool ur father instead. There are lots of mosques in Israel and muslims are free to practice their faith, while in Saudi Arabia there is no single church whatsoever because other religions are banned from practicing in public, even Bible is banned in Saudi Arabia. Even for a muslim to convert to christianity carries death sentence and you are telling me islam is peace, you can tell that to a dog. Boko Haram has come out openly to say they want Nigeria to be converted to islam country, they dont want any church in the north and they want any nigerian president to be a muslim, these are the things they want and you open your dirty mouth to tell us that its not an islamic movement. I can see you are empty headed and just need some attention. MUMU
Your profile says you are 32 but still i see no maturity in you and you got no morals and shows how awfully you were been brought up!!! It doesn't have to be this way and lots of people on here in one way or the other knows how to insult or curse people.....But if you got good morals and and really knows what to say not just been a fool who just has to say something.........Age is just a number and @ 32 your behaviour/moral and attutude still remains this way.....Man you really need deliverance and ireally mean it. Please just let a more Logical person in your generation respond if there is ANY cause its all about HEREDITY Take your time, check my comments and see how i respond to people irrespective of there race/religion/tribe. It gives you full definition of ME.......I pray for you ooooo
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 04:02 AM |
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@Dejola24856
better go and examine yourself because you are empty. how on earth do you think i will keep quiet while u type nonsense here, do u think we are kids or what? if i get hold of you i will teach a bitter lesson you will never forget in your life. Pig
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 04:08 AM |
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'What has befall Nigeria?..OKAY lets think this way first. (a) We need to find peace and upgrade our BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP.(b) While the North where seeking for Islamic state and making the country more insecure then we need to adapt with the formal system of government which the British colonial left by - let the 3 (three) ethnic group in Nigeria choose the best government suitable for them and in all Igbo,Yoruba and Housa will have one prime minister that will answer to the needs of each three region " as you can see the map of Nigeria how river Benue and river Niger made a natural boundary= if i am to choose let IGBO'S TAKE- Anarchy or anarchism - No rulers. A social order built through free and equal association.
LET HOUSA'S TAKE-Autocracy, oligarchy, etc. - A small ruling class. A social order marked by violence and hierarchies.
LET YORUBA'S TAKE -Democracy - Any of several systems partway between anarchism and autocracy. These may involve indirect representation, direct voting, or consensus. Indirect representation tends to come closest to autocracy, and consensus tends to come closest to anarchism...AND THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE ELECTION FOR A TENURE OF 5 FIVE YEAR'S WHICH THE PRIME MINISTER WILL BE EQUAL TO THE SAME MINISTERS OF THE 3 THREE ETHNIC GROUPS...LET EVERY REGION BEAR ACCOUNT OF THERE PROBLEM'S..OR NIGERIA WILL SPLIT !!!
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 04:09 AM |
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@Dejola24856
better go and examine yourself because you are empty. how on earth do you think i will keep quiet while u type nonsense here, do u think we are kids or what? if i get hold of you i will teach a bitter lesson you will never forget in your life. Pig
But as a good christain/ealder with good morals and personalty who is filled with wisdom will never insult or use abusive words against man kind. You want me to accept christainity this way as well? You are a good example of violence in christianity and preaching the gospel just like the holy bible said indicates nothing like abusing people. It shows how evil your mind is and you are of no difference to the Boko Harams. Only the dumb will support what the folks so called Boko haram are doing.....All i am saying here is Islam never seems to be violence as you see it.........people doing evils all in the name of Islam are devils not the true Muslims. You called me pig, idiot, mumu e.t.c but still i never called you one hehehe.........I am sure at this point in time, lots of people are following this poll and i am sure you are a big disgrace to the xtians and christ followers in general
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 04:17 AM |
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@Dejola24856
better go and examine yourself because you are empty. how on earth do you think i will keep quiet while u type nonsense here, do u think we are kids or what? if i get hold of you i will teach a bitter lesson you will never forget in your life. Pig
Just now i visited your profile and view your posts.....I realized that who you truly are is awful/synthetic/dire cause nothing good and educative never comes from you as all you are filled with is curse....man you really need dilverance......this place is really not meant fpr you at all...... To other members, please you need to visit this guy's profile and see who and what he really is (Commonsense) He makes no sense at all Please ignore all odd comments by this man, its his way.....HEREDITY....i just hope he can fight and stop the curse to avoid passing it to his offspring cause this is really of no good man. Believe.....i will ignore what ever comment posted by you henceforth
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 04:38 AM |
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Just now i visited your profile and view your posts.....I realized that who you truly are is awful/synthetic/dire cause nothing good and educative never comes from you as all you are filled with is curse....man you really need dilverance......this place is really not meant fpr you at all......
To other members, please you need to visit this guy's profile and see who and what he really is (Commonsense) He makes no sense at all
Please ignore all odd comments by this man, its his way.....HEREDITY....i just hope he can fight and stop the curse to avoid passing it to his offspring cause this is really of no good man.
Believe.....i will ignore what ever comment posted by you henceforth
you are a loser, son of a bitch. you have no tangible arguement to convince anyone, rather you try to confuse and deceive people here. count me out u can never deceive me so just fcuk off
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 05:10 AM |
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Just now i visited your profile and view your posts.....I realized that who you truly are is awful/synthetic/dire cause nothing good and educative never comes from you as all you are filled with is curse....man you really need dilverance......this place is really not meant fpr you at all......
To other members, please you need to visit this guy's profile and see who and what he really is (Commonsense) He makes no sense at all
Please ignore all odd comments by this man, its his way.....HEREDITY....i just hope he can fight and stop the curse to avoid passing it to his offspring cause this is really of no good man.
Believe.....i will ignore what ever comment posted by you henceforth
U didn't comment on my last post...why?
I've always lived by 3 principles:
1. Honour ur God, 2. Love ur Family and 3. Defend your Country
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 08:17 AM |
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you are a bloody idiot lier , this is no boko haram , this is not nigeria but somalia , why lying to us? Perhaps, this will make a little sense to you: In December 2008, I was making my third trip to Niger as the United Nations Special Envoy, attempting to broker a peace between the government and rebel Tuareg groups. One Sunday, two weeks before Christmas, my colleague, Louis Guay, and I were returning to the capital, Niamey, in a UN vehicle when a truck passed us, slewed in front and forced us to a stop.
Two AK-47s were aimed at the face of our driver, and within the blink on an eye all three of us were torn from our seats and thrown into the back of their truck. The whole grab took perhaps 40 seconds.
Thus began our 56-hour descent into hell, a 1,000 km off-road nightmare into the middle of the Sahara desert. Twelve hours into that appalling journey, we stopped for a couple of hours rest. As I paced back and forth, the sentry, a young Senegalese, looked up from where he was making tea and asked, “Have you figured out who we are yet?†Refusing to acknowledge the dawning reality, I shook my head and he spat “We are al-Qaeda,†enjoying the effect as the bottom fell out of my world.
Three days later, we were ushered toward a large, dark tent, and when I saw the assembled video equipment, I despaired at the thought of my family watching a You Tube video of our beheading. Instead, we recorded a message in which I stated that we had been captured by al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), and urged the UN and the government of Canada to bend every effort to secure our release and — as instructed — warned them to avoid violence in any effort to win our freedom.
We then settled uncomfortably into the rhythm of our desert captivity, but from the outset it was made excruciatingly clear by the 31 members of the group which held us, that as representatives of the hated United Nations, we were “prisoners of war†and not some random targets of opportunity.
We had spent five days reaching their operations area deep in the desert, remained in the first “camp†for 56 days and then spent the final 68 days shuttling vast distances among 23 different camps. A camp, though, was simply a place in the sand where a thin tree might offer a little shade from the unrelenting sun. We were always held in the open: no buildings, tents, furniture, or toilets. There were venomous snakes and scorpions and wild dogs, hyenas, and a variety of biting insects, and awful food; but the greatest threat to our lives was so evidently from the two-legged monsters who held us. Indeed, there was hardly a moment when I didn’t anticipate it would end with my head being sawn off.
They were the most single-minded group of young men I have ever encountered. Our captors had no desire for cool sunglasses, no interest in aping the antics of film stars or footballers, no passion for sports or music; their only concern was pleasing their jealous and stern God. They would often explain how the Prophet had said that 99 out of 100 would not make it to paradise, but their place beside those rivers of milk and honey was assured for they were fighting Allah’s fight and would soon, they hoped (as did I) be occupying the house of the mujahideen in paradise. At one point one of them thrust his rifle at me, saying: “kill me now, I’m ready for paradise.â€
Kidnappings of Westerners have fueled debate among securocrats as to whether our AQIM captors might simply bandits flying an Islamic flag of convenience. I know that to be the wrong answer. Our kidnappers were utterly focused religious zealots who believed absolutely in their cause. They sought to expel Western infidels from Muslim lands and to destroy what they saw as apostate Western-stooge governments who were usurping God’s purposes across the Muslim world. The concepts and ideals we hold most dear were anathema to them: liberty, freedom, justice, democracy, human rights, equality between the sexes — all matters which they considered to be the exclusive province of Allah.
Our kidnappers were certain, they would prevail, but whether it took 20, 200 or 2,000 years was of no consequence. God’s will would be done.
Their objective was to establish a 7,000 km wide caliphate, stretching from Nouakchott in Mauritania to Mogadishu in Somalia, to be ruled by stern Allah-fearing Islamic sages who could be relied upon to understand and execute God’s will. AQIM believe that by replicating across the Sahel the chaos and anarchy caused by their Al Shabaab colleagues in present day Somalia, they will be creating the perfect growth medium in which their vision will flourish.
In the face of the murderous rampage of Boko Haram in Nigeria over the past year, which included the bombing of Nigerian police headquarters in Abuja and the destruction of UN headquarters, many hundreds have been killed (thousands over the past decade). There seems, though, to be a reluctance to believe that it is all part of the same jihadi movement. Many want to believe that Boko Haram is different, somehow less dangerous than Al Qaeda’s other African affiliates. While I understand the reluctance to acknowledge that Al Qaeda might have won a solid foothold in Africa’s most populous and important country, again, I know that to be the case. One of my captors was a young Nigerian from Kano; clearly what we would call an “exchange officer.â€
The threat to the stability of the northern half of Africa posed by militant jihadi Islam is present and real. It has been exacerbated by the fall-out from our Libyan adventure, which has caused weapons in untold quantities to spew across one of the most fragile parts of the world. Not only do Al Qaeda’s predations endanger the development gains of the past half-century in the upper part of Africa, but chaos there will very directly impact Western Europe as human emergencies of immense proportion bloom, and illegal refugee flows multiply by orders of magnitude. Our African friends need help to defeat such a scourge, and we, throughout the West, need to get a lot more serious — and very quickly - about discouraging the Saudis and Gulf States from their generous funding of radical Salafist madrassas across the world, and most immediately in Africa where they are providing the recruits to Al Qaeda’s African franchises.
After intensive diplomacy on the part of all manner of regional players, Louis and I were freed after 130 days of captivity, along with the two female members of a group of European tourists who had been kidnapped by a separate AQIM faction. Six weeks after we returned to Canada, another of that group, the Briton Edwin Dyer, was killed by his captors. Louis and I are very lucky to be alive and we owe our lives to a great many fine, imaginative and hard working people who made it possible.
I welcome this opportunity to extend my deepest sympathies to the families of Chris McManus and Franco Lamolinara, who were not so fortunate. They were murdered this past week following their kidnapping in north-western Nigeria last May. So often during my captivity did I worry about the risks of a rescue attempt, only to fear that it might not be made, so I also extend my empathy to the brave professionals who made the attempt, for I know the extent of their distress at the failure of their enormously risky mission.
Robert R Fowler's account of his captivity, "A season in Hell: My 130 Days in the Sahara with Al Qaeda†is published in Canada by HarperCollins
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/9136201/My-130-days-in-the-hands-of-al-Qaedas-African-monsters-by-former-hostage.htmlhttp://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headlines/136317-gruesome-murder-of-man-by-boko-haram-video.html
please, watch the video in the last link
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 08:43 AM |
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Why?
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 08:47 AM |
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Perhaps, this will make a little sense to you: In December 2008, I was making my third trip to Niger as the United Nations Special Envoy, attempting to broker a peace between the government and rebel Tuareg groups. One Sunday, two weeks before Christmas, my colleague, Louis Guay, and I were returning to the capital, Niamey, in a UN vehicle when a truck passed us, slewed in front and forced us to a stop.
Two AK-47s were aimed at the face of our driver, and within the blink on an eye all three of us were torn from our seats and thrown into the back of their truck. The whole grab took perhaps 40 seconds.
Thus began our 56-hour descent into hell, a 1,000 km off-road nightmare into the middle of the Sahara desert. Twelve hours into that appalling journey, we stopped for a couple of hours rest. As I paced back and forth, the sentry, a young Senegalese, looked up from where he was making tea and asked, “Have you figured out who we are yet?†Refusing to acknowledge the dawning reality, I shook my head and he spat “We are al-Qaeda,†enjoying the effect as the bottom fell out of my world.
Three days later, we were ushered toward a large, dark tent, and when I saw the assembled video equipment, I despaired at the thought of my family watching a You Tube video of our beheading. Instead, we recorded a message in which I stated that we had been captured by al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), and urged the UN and the government of Canada to bend every effort to secure our release and — as instructed — warned them to avoid violence in any effort to win our freedom.
We then settled uncomfortably into the rhythm of our desert captivity, but from the outset it was made excruciatingly clear by the 31 members of the group which held us, that as representatives of the hated United Nations, we were “prisoners of war†and not some random targets of opportunity.
We had spent five days reaching their operations area deep in the desert, remained in the first “camp†for 56 days and then spent the final 68 days shuttling vast distances among 23 different camps. A camp, though, was simply a place in the sand where a thin tree might offer a little shade from the unrelenting sun. We were always held in the open: no buildings, tents, furniture, or toilets. There were venomous snakes and scorpions and wild dogs, hyenas, and a variety of biting insects, and awful food; but the greatest threat to our lives was so evidently from the two-legged monsters who held us. Indeed, there was hardly a moment when I didn’t anticipate it would end with my head being sawn off.
They were the most single-minded group of young men I have ever encountered. Our captors had no desire for cool sunglasses, no interest in aping the antics of film stars or footballers, no passion for sports or music; their only concern was pleasing their jealous and stern God. They would often explain how the Prophet had said that 99 out of 100 would not make it to paradise, but their place beside those rivers of milk and honey was assured for they were fighting Allah’s fight and would soon, they hoped (as did I) be occupying the house of the mujahideen in paradise. At one point one of them thrust his rifle at me, saying: “kill me now, I’m ready for paradise.â€
Kidnappings of Westerners have fueled debate among securocrats as to whether our AQIM captors might simply bandits flying an Islamic flag of convenience. I know that to be the wrong answer. Our kidnappers were utterly focused religious zealots who believed absolutely in their cause. They sought to expel Western infidels from Muslim lands and to destroy what they saw as apostate Western-stooge governments who were usurping God’s purposes across the Muslim world. The concepts and ideals we hold most dear were anathema to them: liberty, freedom, justice, democracy, human rights, equality between the sexes — all matters which they considered to be the exclusive province of Allah.
Our kidnappers were certain, they would prevail, but whether it took 20, 200 or 2,000 years was of no consequence. God’s will would be done.
Their objective was to establish a 7,000 km wide caliphate, stretching from Nouakchott in Mauritania to Mogadishu in Somalia, to be ruled by stern Allah-fearing Islamic sages who could be relied upon to understand and execute God’s will. AQIM believe that by replicating across the Sahel the chaos and anarchy caused by their Al Shabaab colleagues in present day Somalia, they will be creating the perfect growth medium in which their vision will flourish.
In the face of the murderous rampage of Boko Haram in Nigeria over the past year, which included the bombing of Nigerian police headquarters in Abuja and the destruction of UN headquarters, many hundreds have been killed (thousands over the past decade). There seems, though, to be a reluctance to believe that it is all part of the same jihadi movement. Many want to believe that Boko Haram is different, somehow less dangerous than Al Qaeda’s other African affiliates. While I understand the reluctance to acknowledge that Al Qaeda might have won a solid foothold in Africa’s most populous and important country, again, I know that to be the case. One of my captors was a young Nigerian from Kano; clearly what we would call an “exchange officer.â€
The threat to the stability of the northern half of Africa posed by militant jihadi Islam is present and real. It has been exacerbated by the fall-out from our Libyan adventure, which has caused weapons in untold quantities to spew across one of the most fragile parts of the world. Not only do Al Qaeda’s predations endanger the development gains of the past half-century in the upper part of Africa, but chaos there will very directly impact Western Europe as human emergencies of immense proportion bloom, and illegal refugee flows multiply by orders of magnitude. Our African friends need help to defeat such a scourge, and we, throughout the West, need to get a lot more serious — and very quickly - about discouraging the Saudis and Gulf States from their generous funding of radical Salafist madrassas across the world, and most immediately in Africa where they are providing the recruits to Al Qaeda’s African franchises.
After intensive diplomacy on the part of all manner of regional players, Louis and I were freed after 130 days of captivity, along with the two female members of a group of European tourists who had been kidnapped by a separate AQIM faction. Six weeks after we returned to Canada, another of that group, the Briton Edwin Dyer, was killed by his captors. Louis and I are very lucky to be alive and we owe our lives to a great many fine, imaginative and hard working people who made it possible.
I welcome this opportunity to extend my deepest sympathies to the families of Chris McManus and Franco Lamolinara, who were not so fortunate. They were murdered this past week following their kidnapping in north-western Nigeria last May. So often during my captivity did I worry about the risks of a rescue attempt, only to fear that it might not be made, so I also extend my empathy to the brave professionals who made the attempt, for I know the extent of their distress at the failure of their enormously risky mission.
Robert R Fowler's account of his captivity, "A season in Hell: My 130 Days in the Sahara with Al Qaeda†is published in Canada by HarperCollins
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/9136201/My-130-days-in-the-hands-of-al-Qaedas-African-monsters-by-former-hostage.htmlhttp://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headlines/136317-gruesome-murder-of-man-by-boko-haram-video.html
please, watch the video in the last linkAfter reviewing all this stories.....i made some research and later realize you are doing anything you can in your power to criticize ISLAM which is not fare......You know exactly where you get the story, I CAN GIVE YOU THE LINK TO IT. But i won't cause i will let your lies continue and fool those who you want to fool. At least thats what you want, for everyone to believe ISLAM is Evil. But be sure, it doesn't have to be this way as you and i knows that all those stories and videos up there are been fabricated. I just hope you can come out with a more tangible fact rather than show the world fake/lies.....Even a new born baby will read the story and tell you wow' who is the AUTHOR? This is an interesting story!!! I have more links to more verious make up trash stories and videos like this if you want i can share with you
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| posted: Mar 11 2012, 09:18 AM |
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