Frankly, I agree with this.  We here in America SHOULD fix our own problems and forget about trying to fix the problems of the rest of the world.  Oh, wait a minute...Haiti would not be getting anywhere near as much help now if we did that...

Could make a long, boring flight more interesting for the rest of us.

Huh?  How can anyone in this country expect to garner international support for their cause if no one OUTSIDE the country can understand this gibberish?

Oh, I am as fine as someone forced into bankruptcy by a Nigerian scammer can be.  However, to the topic at hand..these two people's screaching are physically painful for me to listen to.  I have hear African Music and have heard its beauty, but these two should just realize they have no talent and move on.  Shall I give examples?

mAYBE IF THE us INVADES, THEY WILL CLEAN THIS MESS OF A COUNTRY UP!

See, your are mistaken about what happened to me by this person.  Yes, I did want to help "her" but somehow, in our conversing, she managed to steal my identity and raid my accounts.  I did not find out about it until well after the fact when I was unable to access my accounts and credit cards.  And after dealing with it for almost a year, my strength and financial ability gave out vompletely and I was forced into bankruptcy just to save my home and my vehicle.

Huh?

I mistyped on this one.  I MEANT to type that Libya should have been taken OFF the list years ago.  All thumbs here.

Such is the bewildering actions of the US gonverment.  I agree: since Libya HAS complied with the US's demands, it SHOULD be removed.  However, I have a feeling that it has more to do with the ties the coutry has--MAY have, I should say--to events like the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole and other suspected events that the US's CIA and other agencies, which cannot tell their head from their A**.  I may be wrong, but, at least, that is how things look on this side of the screen.  Just because I am in America and am an American citizen, it does not mean that I agree with all of their policies.  Far from it--not getting on THAT soap box.  Sufice to say that America can be and has been VERY HYPOCRITICAL in its policy.  I also know, being and American Citizen, that things even remotely related to terrorism against us is something that most of the Bible Belt (and the loudest voices in the matter) States is not willing to let go of or forget.  Just as the African Americans are not willing to let go the atrocious acts of slavery in the 19th century and incist that present day American somehow OWE them something for it.  Just as present day Americans have had nothing to do with slavery for well over 140 years, somehow we of the African community still see it as we must have some sort of reparations.  I was not a slave.  My father was not a slave--nor was his grandfather.  The same goes for the white people of today--they did not own slaves, etc.  And it is this lack of logical thinking that seems to guide many in all nations to hold on to the acts of a few and hold an entire country responsible for.  I do, however, have a firm belief that when a country's citizen(s) blatantly attack nother country, whether in an act or terrorism or whatever, the country that person came from SHOULD do whatever it can to SHOW the rest of the world, not just the target country, that it is sincere in putting an END to such acts by its citizens.  And the responsibility should stop at the individual and ultimately the government once it has been dealt with.  And it should be shown to the victim country that the aggressor's country is taking the appropriate steps to make sure this does not happen again.  The lack of action on Nigeria's part in past events--such as the 419 scams, etc--are a HUGE part of what has galvanized the rest of the world with the negative view of this country.  It is the inaction of the government--unless the consequences would directly hamper its agenda--in past events that makes global opinion so negative.  I would LOVE to see Nigeria take its place as a world power.  However, I do not see this happening in its current state.  Nigerians need to band together collectively and MAKE the corrupt government accountable for its actions AND inactions.  Until the Government is made to be held accountable, I do not think the rest of the world will take it seriously.  And threats like this to sever ties with America..I have to ask: were there REALLY any ties to speak of?  Having dealt with the FBI in my own issues with Nigerian citizens, I would have to say there ARE no ties to speak of.  Now, I am willing to admit that this view may be do to my interaction with the Government agency, but, from what I have read in the news and forums, I am inclined to believe what I read in many independant sources from USA today to BBC news to Neue Grazer in Austria.

Now, if this view is misguided from these and many other sources, I welcome your counter of sources for me to read.

Well said.  And I apologize for my misunderstanding.  It is somtimes difficult for me to remember that not all I talk to on a Nigerian Forum are in Nigeria.  I apreciate you kindness.  Thank you again.

I never said Libya's name should not be on the list.  Frankly, I feel it should have been on the list years ago.  Little more than a terrorist harboring nation in my opinion.

I completely agree that whomever defrauded you should pay you back.  I did not mean to say that Americans are not culpable from their acts, and I apologize ofr coming off that way.  You mentioned people like Tomothy McVei and Americans being held responsible for such acts.  While Timothy McVei is being held responsible for HIS acts, we as American, are doing what we must to prevent such forms of homegrown terrorism from happening again.  As for the Americans being held by Iran, there has been so much back and forth rederick that who can tell what is truth and what is a lie?

My surprise at a single Nigerian's ability to for intelligable English sentences comes from dealing with Nigeria both on the phone and in print.  And it also comes from reading these forums.  I am an African American from Kenya and try to come with an open mind.  But when I cannot understand a word that is written because those of the African community refuse to speak in any for other than their bastardized, abbreviation, then how can I not be surprised when a Nigerian can speak in English that can be understood by those outside Nigeria?  This IS an OPEN forum, is it not?  Open to all the world?  If it is, then you must expect that others from outside Nigeria to be browsing and finding topics of interest.  And, as such, would you not want these contriubutors from outside Nigeria to be able to understand what is being said?

As for those claiming to be Nigeria in the 419 scams and not being of Nigerian decent, how can you account for those I, personally, have traced to Lagos multiple times?  How did I do this?  By their IP address.  Lagos EVERY time--and those addresses are logged in the internet fraud database as being known fraudulent Nigerian addresses.

As for the money you lost to American and Russian entities: you are fully entitiled to what you lost--just as I am fully entitled to what I lost to what, for all intents and purposes, hs been proven to be a Nigerian.

Now, before you go accusing me of blowing my trumpet, I blow it hard and loud for the injustice that I have been dealt for losing what I have worked very hard for.  Just as you have worked very hard for what you lost.  We are not so different, you and I.  All I say is that, even though I am of African decent from Kenya, I have been schooled in proper English and, after thoroughly browsing what I thought to be a great African discussion outlet, I am stunned by the lack of ability to communicate in a meaningful way, using understandable English--especially considering the fact that this forum is also visited by other Africans in other countries.

I appreciate your kind words.  However, I think I will stick with women I can see and meet face to face here in the US.  Much safer.  Nothing against you or your intentions, but I have learned through many online experiences--even with US women via online dating--that local women that I can meet face to face are safest.  God bless you and your kind heart.  I wish you well in your daily life.

LOL.

LOL.

I never said I did not know what your "abreviations" meant.  But when you are participating in what is supposed to be an intelligent conversation--regardless of medium--you should conduct yourself in amanner that shows you are intelligent.  Your atrocious spelling--those are not abreviations, but a pathetic attempt at English--shows you are not intelligent and should leave conversations like this to the adults.

I tried to help someone who made it clear they were in trouble.  That was my crime.  I was naive enough to believe a call for help--with no promise for future riches, so do not think it that.  And in helping this person, I am not sure anymore if it was a man or a woman, they hacked my identity and stole it.  And after fighting for almost 18 months to pick up the peices, I have been forced into bankruptcy just to keep my home and my truck so I can go to work.  None of the creditors would hear me.  They called me at all hours of the day and night.  What was I promised, you ask, to make me fall for this?  The promise of a happy life with a woman who would love me and take care of me as I deserved--not one who would put me in the hospital and cost my an arm's length of my bowels like my first wife.  "She" had all the right words and answered my questions to my satisfaction, but when the money ran out, "she" left.  And I was left with the aftermath and the consequences.  I tried to do the right thing and pay back what was owed, but it came down to having money to pay the creditors and having money for food and gas to get to work.  I have even gone so far as to try and enlist the assistance of the FBI and Secret Service in this matter.  Yes, I am an American citizen, but I am African ind decent.  But due to the "small" amount, in their eyes, that was on the table, so to speak, they would not help me.  And with the lack of diplomatic relations between our two governments, they would not do anything unless the amount in question was over $100,000.  Now, while $46,000 may not seem like much to a government agency, it is sure a HELL OF A LOT of money to a working man.

I do appreciate your kind words and your wondering what happened to me.  It is a relief to find someone from Nigeria who cares enough about their fellow man to want to know what one of their fellow countrymen did to cause their trouble.  God bless you.

Again, you prove my point.  You cannot even spell more than 20% of your words correctly.  And I will go suck on my mother's nice, dark chocolate tits and enjoy every minute of it.  Check yourself before you go attacking someone with superior linguistic skills and who is from Africa.

Very eloquent.  You are to be commended.  I see and understand your point.  However, I think we shall agree to disagree on the point of Libya.  But, nonetheless, Nigeria, as have all nations of the world, some culpability in all these goings on.  While I do not agree with the US's attempt to impose their view of freedom on the rest of the world, I do agree with their decision to add Nigeria to the terrorist watch list.  Nigeria has a history of doing nothing to correct the wrongs that come of its own.  And therefore, the rest of the world and America must act accordingly to protect itself from what has been shown to me an aggressive and dangerous country of lawlessness.

You just proved my point.  When you get some English lessons, then come talk to me.