I'd like to know what you think about what I wrote. Scroll up and read it then I'd love to hear your response. You are just saying things with nothing to back it up.

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Well personally I don't believe that is what Peter is saying, but hey, let's just agree to disagree. You can't agree on everything (: Also notice that the man who started this topic hasn't responded to either of us

Hahahaha point taken, but the Bible does say that we should be able to give a good defense of our faith. 1 Peter 3:15 says, 'But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"

In other versions it says always be ready to give an apologia of your faith, but both mean the same thing. Jesus tells us that we should ALWAYS be ready to give a well reasoned defense of our faith, that's what an apologia is. This is where Christian apologetics comes from.

Aight I got something for you to think on. You are using logic, reason, and science to disprove Christianity correct? I think we can both agree on that. I think we can also agree that logic and science come from reason, so the way people disprove Christianity is ultimately through reason.

So, what exactly is reason? Webster says reason is "the power of comprehending, inferring, or thinking especially in orderly rational ways." So reason is being able to think well and figure things out. So for reason to be able to make one thing false, and another true, it must be ALWAYS correct. In other words you cannot question reason, because reason is how we question other things. Reason is transcendent, or it governs all other things. I think we can also both agree on that.

So, where does reason come from? Well according to those who don't believe in a God, it comes from ourselves, it comes from man. Therefore, if we were to create a new way to reason tomorrow, it would have just as much authority as the reason we are using today. But wait a second, we just said that reason, in order to use it, must be transcendent, it must ALWAYS be correct, which means only one type of reason can truly be right if we are going to use it to question all other things. So if we WERE to create a new reason tomorrow, it would HAVE to be wrong, if today's reason is right. But that can't be either, because both come from man, therefore they both are equally legitimate.

In other words, if reason truly was created by man, then it has NO authority to critique other things. To do so it must be transcendent, and to be transcendent it must have not been created by man. Cause if it was created by man, we could change it tomorrow and have no way of saying that today's reason is better or more legitimate than the one we create tomorrow.

Therefore, in order you use reason, a transcendental principle, which we agreed on, you HAVE to believe in some god. Because humans cannot have created reason if it is able to govern all other things. So a transcendental being must have created it in order for it to be a transcendental principle.

I'll admit that most Christians are horrible at defending God, but there are some of us who can. Just some food for thought, tell me what you think.