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Quote from: idoncome on 13-03-2012 01:38 PM
Thank you poster for bringing about this issue, Ive tried several times to post here but have not been able to do so.
I have some issues to clear here:
Muslims are not terrorists, all that is happening are the west's hypocrites, I'm not here to defend any militant group, in fact i feel sad whenever BH carry out their bloody attacks in 9ja for 2 reasons, 1- for killing innocent souls. 2- for tarnishing the image of my holy religion. But why did I say the west started it? Let's take the case of Iraq for instance, what was their crime b4 USA bombarded them and killed millions of Iraqi Muslims? those people fighting and bombing in Iraq are doing so bcos of fraustration, imagine a man opening his eyes while all his family members were wiped out by US bomb, what has the ICC done about it since then? the nuclear weapon they claim they have, did they find it? So also Palestine, what is Israel doing to them on their land? A german Muslim writes this: "Who started the First World War? Muslims? Who started the Second World War? Muslims? Who killed about 20 millions of Aborigines in Australia? Muslims ?? Who sent the nuclear bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Muslims?? Who killed more than 100 millions of Indians in North America? Muslims?? Who killed more than 50 millions of Indians in South America? Muslims?? Who took about 180 millions of African people as slaves and 88% of them died and were thrown in Atlantic Ocean? Muslims?? No, they weren't Muslims!!! First of all, you have to define terrorism properly... If a non-Muslim does something bad...it is crime. But if a Muslim does the same...He is terrorist...If a Jew leaves his bears, he simply is practicing his religion, but if a Muslim leaves his bears, he is a terrorist. If a Nun wears her scarf and covers herself up she is modest, but if a Muslim woman wears her hijab she simply is deprived and so on and on and on. So first remove this double standard...then come to the point!!!...........Who killed more than 20 million Congolese? Muslims? No they were killed by the greedy Aristocrats of Belgium/Europe. Who are the ones plotting to topple legitimate governments and replace them with puppets to loot and plunder, Muslims? No they are USA, Britain and France deploying state terrorism as foreign policies.".
We need to live in harmony in Nigeria and to join hands together in stoping all the killings but NAIJAPALS is not helping with lack of administrative screening of posts and comments b4 getting them posted.
Each time I see topics like these, I always try to avoid it simply because of the way people talk unreasonably, but because you sound more reasonable than others, I feel I am obliged to write something. First of all, I would like to say that I am 100% percent proud to be a Nigerian and again 100% proud to come from Northern Nigeria. So whatever I say here is based on facts and nothing else etc.
-Not all those from Northern Nigeria are Muslims as most of our naija pals think, in fact I am a Christian.
- Goodness is not reserved for a particular culture or religion or tribe etc. Goodness can be found anywhere.
But I raise some question on what you have written on slave trade and others. First and foremost, slavery was not created by the whites because it has existed through human history and practiced by every tribe and culture. Slavery is different in Islam because Islam has institutionalized, accepted and practices slavery as a religious norm. The Book titled "The legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa" by John Alembillah Azumah, says "The worst most inhuman and most diabolic institution of Black-Africa Slave Trade was initiated, refined, perpetuated and implemented by Mohammed and Arab, and later aided and abated by the black converts to Mohammedan and Islam" Muslims believe as you pointed out that all these killings, world Wars, slavery etc were done by Christians therefore it is part Christianity,that is a fallacy. Absolutely wrong!!! History shows us that while these were being carried out, prominent teachers of Christianity condemned it. E.g Pope Eugene IV condemned slave trade etc. But in the case of Islam, the acts of terrorism, forcing people to convert to Islam (proselytism), death as a punishment on anyone who converts from Islam to Christianity, etc are evidently in the Qur'an and the hadith and interpreted as such by the imams. I have clear cases in the Northern part of Nigeria; Muslim woman should never marry a Christian man, but a muslim man can marry a Christian woman, Buhari knew he was not going to win the election, so he organised the whole muslims in the north and they attacked and killed innocent Christians for exercising their rights by electing, particular political positions should not be owned by a Christian. Most Christians hardly find certificates to own schools, radio stations or even buy a piece of land in their own states of origin, simply because they are Christians.
Back to our slave trade issue. History Books say:
(i) The American/European (Transatlantic) Slave trade lasted for 3 centuries while the Islamic Slave trade lasted for 14centuries.
(ii) While the trans-Atlantic trade had taken the ratio of 3 men: 2 women for slavery and for agricultural purposed, Islamic (Sahara, Red Sea and Indian Ocean) trade took the ratio of mortality rate of 1 man: 2 women for slavery and for segxwal satisfaction and military services.
(iii) 10% of the Trans-Atlantic slaves died during the voyages. 80% of the Sahara (ie Islamic) slaves died during the voyage.
(iv) The Trans-Atlantic slaves could marry and have children in Europe and America. the Sahara, Red Sea and Indian Ocean slaves were castrated and the few that had children, the children were killed.
(v) 11 Million Black slaves were taken out for slavery in Europe and America, of which 10% died. Over 140 Million black slaves were taken for slavery by the Muslims to Arab and the Middle East, 80% died.
(vi) Islamic slave trade continued as recent as 19th and 20th century because Islam allows the taking of slaves as booty.
You can visit www.inthenameofallah.org for more information.
I know you know that Boko Haram is an Islamic group that follow the teachings of Mohammed to the later; make converts by force, if they refuse, kill them. Even if there are muslims among you that oppose you, kill them as well because such people do not deserve to be called muslims, they are also infidels. This explains why the good muslims cannot condemn the Boko Haram.
Tell me, is there any group with a Christian name with the aim of terrorism like Al-Quaeda, El Shabab, Boko Haram?There is nothing like that in Christianity. It was here(Naija pals) that I saw a video post of an islamic group that recited the Qur'an before slaughtering a human being (Christian).
Check the news of recent, anywhere in the world that is predominantly Muslim, there is violence (injunction by the Holy Book).
You can go to the following websites on you tube for more information on the Religion Islam.