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41  Forum / Relationships & Romance / Re: ... Is it proper to allow ur fiancee to spend d nite at ur place when u guys r nt yet married? ( on: 29-12-2010 05:55 PM
The guy can ask her to spend the night. If she knows what is good for her, she better the cut out go her papa house. Ha ha h ahahhah ah haha.

Afterall she has a wedding night and more nights.

E get some kind harmattan wey d make man just need a "woman face for mirror", "Bosom s for pillow", "warmth for grill- oh!" and "lips for spill-oh" and "eye-lids for sparrow" and "hearts for love - oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


I need beer. E get some kind of beer wey d help time make invincible meaning.  May God not permit beer after it's time. Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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cTRL-C PLUS CTRL-VEE AGAIN? HA H AH AH HA HA. WETIN D WORRY SOME AGBEROS SEF? EHN?
42  Forum / Relationships & Romance / Re: I love her, but do not know how to tell her (Page 8) on: 29-12-2010 05:19 PM
I don't think you need to tell her, cause if you get more skillz than me, then you no suppose to the ask this particular question. Don't ask. She is not God. Make her ask.

So, just try take care of her the way you go try take care of a girl/woman wey you like like. And that means it has to be every time you have an opportunity to take care of her that you will. Every wise time!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark wise - replace wise with appropriate.  You also have got to treat her like a daughter - an adolescent daughter or junior sister. She has to know that cause you are soft doesn't mean you are weak. If she phyuk up, then you have to treat her correct. And that includes not sparing her feelings. Not insulting her oo000!!!!!!!!!! She is important. You have to preserve her. But, if she phyuks up then make her feel like a very naughty spoilt child. Afterall all women are very naughty spoilt petulant children that have to be put inline. Can you imagine what happens when you don't correct grown women or put them in their place?Huh?Huh? Some day you will have a ball and your 14 years old daughter with her young butt will be wearing leggings. Off cause you go shout your goaty infected lungs out. Guess what? Your family will be in attendance and at the end of the day, your daughter will be picking up your car keys with her butt in the galaxy. Of cause all your phyuked up honey never let a young ass be friends will be staring. Of course, they gonna make your innocent's daughters ass the talk of the ball.

You do not want dat. A mother should be able to listen you and your kids.

And please  try to make her say "yes I do" before she ends up in my arms. Ha ha hah ha hahah ha.

If she doesn't realize that you love her so much after everything then just remember that God used her to teach you her how to love some other woman better. So move on if she phyuks up.

Remember that she is not blood yet till she says I do. So, when she phyuks up to the max, remember she is not your blood sister or daughter,
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Bros, I am a little drunk right now. Can you imagine some boss just came with the intent to quarrel like I treated his machine like a bitch? Bla bla he can't the accounting application. Not that it is even Oracle Financials or my own software of peoplesoft or that bloody german application. I need some more high. I think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Never the less, I think I am high. I don't know.

Just get close to her like you are not interested yet or if she suspects then be bold but not vocal. Be a big boy. I hope she aint dumb headed. If she is dumb headed you might have to play her. Don't expect her not to insult you.

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I wish there was some girl I could say I love. Right now, I don't think I can love a woman that doesn't love me; and that is a clash of perceptions. Wow!!!!!!!!!1





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Thanks son, I just need more beer. I love this site. A good site for drunken rantings; aye?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?? H aha hah hahahahhahah.

Answer: AYE H AH HA HAHAHHAHAHHAHA H H H H AHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to listen to her more than you talk to her.

Gat to guy. Am gonna post now. I hope when I see this post tomorrow I won't be like, "it wasn't me!"

Is there any girl I love on this site? I think there are girls I could love. But nowadays, person no even fit know whether na trap or na setup. Ha ha hahah  hahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
43  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: Ojukwu wishes to die Jan 13 on: 23-12-2010 06:41 PM
Sirs, I no d send all this politics. Old men die and young men follow.

Young men carry hand guns.

Old men carry shot guns and rifles.

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If you know Ojukwu's kids, tell them that the short time their father has got left is enough to paint an ideal picture of this "time-encouraged unity" called Naija.
 
Seriously, he has served us. However, the greatest disservice that can be done to us as a nation and as part of his family is not knowing what his dreams are. And that is relative to his family first, relative to Ndigbo second and to us Nigerians ultimately.

The Man is a warrior. When he goes, we shall know that "a man of intolerance of partiality goes"; a man that time has prioritized.

Old men carry. May the younger men inherit understanding.

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We need Ojukwu's blue-print for a black Africa and Nigeria. We need Ojukwu's thoughts. Nigerians demand that of Ojukwu.

Long live Ojukwu, Long live Igbo, Long live Nigeria. Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old men go to protect life. Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
44  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: UNITED STATES OF BIAFRA??? (Page 16) on: 23-12-2010 06:08 PM
The dislocation of Nigerian youths pains my soul. It does. For, "Ojukwu" represents understanding.

I guess, It shows, how much intellect has become scarce in Nigeria.

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There will never be another "Ojukwu", however, there will be more conscious and progressive "Igbos" in Nigeria. And that will be, "thanks to the warrior;  a golden sword wielding warrior named "Ojukwu."" May the afterlife contend with Nigeria and Nigerians, but, not "Ojukwu as Ojukwu", but, "Ojukwu as a warrior relative to his time and his foes." Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I envy his decisiveness. He is a man to share understanding and reality with. May the enigma that transcends time be conscious of his fluctuation in this joke called life. Amen.
45  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: Stolen Benin City Mask To Be Auctioned In London For N1.25b on: 23-12-2010 05:47 PM
Quote from: Olivetti on 23-12-2010 04:30 PM
Plz, what's the reaction of the ministre of tourism about all this? Because that Mask it's part of the patrimone of Nigeria, in fact it's Negeria's heritance, culture , tradition, a symbol or Totem of a particular region. So plz it's not funny to hear this.
Sir, I love your comment.

Is somebody out there listening? Cause, they won't let me have a paypal account legally. they want me to go around the international laws. Afterward them gonna call me a thief.

And yet they are thieves; auctioning gems that doesn't belong to them.
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If it was stolen and Nigeria has forgotten that it should be brought back then it should be stolen again. If the queen of england has forgotten the meaning of "Common Wealth", she should be reminded by any decent means necessary.

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I feel your comment.
46  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 5) on: 23-12-2010 05:19 PM
Intelligence is like a river, the deeper you in, the less noise you hear.

Intelligence is like a river, the deeper you in, the less pleasant you feel.

Intelligence is like a river, the better the season, the more danger she poses.

Intelligence is like a river, the drier she is, the less enigma she poses.
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"Intelligence" doesn't exist. She is created by man. And so "Intelligence" is a fool.

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MR. Abdul, stay your lane. Please?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh??
47  Forum / Relationships & Romance / Re: SERIOUS SECRET on: 22-12-2010 12:17 PM
Quote from: waco on 17-12-2010 03:02 PM
The first baby she had for her husband 4 yrs ago is mine
she has 2 more for him today but i dont know what to do.

Each day i see the boy i always feel like seizing him but i'm confused.
Only she and i know the truth.
 
I am still single, opening up will break their marriage.
Pls what can i do?
                               .......Mike(29)  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
Stop being selfish. I don't know if you are one of those guys that think it is alright to engage in adultery. You really haven't told us the circumstances that lead to you and the woman getting involved.

Make I tell you a little about me. I hate disloyalty. If I am in you sons shoes and you come, I will kill you down the line probably. Know why? You let a man give me his loyalty. And I gave him loyalty back. Loyalty from father to son is what we are talking about here. So when you do come to sow discord, you will never be forgiving. The wayward wife will never be forgiving.

Do you even have an idea wat is at stake? Do you have an idea the gravity of your sins? Your son should use a knife and castrate you.

1. You go about pissing in other peoples wells.
2. A child comes out but you don't say it before the child becomes conscious of society.
3. You know a secret but you wish to break it out of your selfishness. A name is just a word. Blood is blood. It is not answering the mans name that makes him your son. It is sharing your blood. What makes him not your son is that you have betrayed blood.

Be careful of your actions. If you spill the beans right now, the boys life could go funny in this mad nothingness called our world.

1. He will lose trust for his mother. That may translate into never ever trusting a wife. He may develop phobias relating to trust issues that may hamper his happiness and overall success.
2. He could go very wayward.[[If I was him I will make sure you have the time of your life. Loyalty is something some of us will die for. We give it easily but if it is properly betrayed we do not mind embracing death]] If he goes wayward can you blame him? His father is an adulterer and his mother is honeypot distributing bitch.
3. He could fall into sadness; 'unslumberable' sadness. He could fall into the deep pit of despair etc. Drugs, alcohol, cocaine may find him in that pit and he may never ever crawl out.
4. He will loose permanent respect for his mother.

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You say your "conniving illicit sex having bitch" has two beautiful kids for her real husband; you na just blanket wey she borrow use for journey. Have considered what will happen to the psychology of those two kids?

Have you considered how the talk at school will affect the son that was suppose to be yours that you betrayed?


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Take my advice, let the boy grow up. That way he is more mature. Get married to another woman, have kids of your own. Make some money for you outer and inner sons. Make an inheritance for them. That is your duty.

Better discard all those 'television father spending quality time with son scenes." This is the real world. Moreover, those sins were not made for the benefit of a wayward dick.

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And even if somebody was to do it, you shouldn't be the one to spill the beans. It should be your "bitxch of an adultress."

Sorry for my venom. If you don't want people to be harsh on your don't post such matters at public forums.

I wish you luck. Get married to your own wife and have more sons. I think then you will get a better picture of reality. It isn't really important this picture of life we disturb ourselves with. So he is your blood son. So another man raised him. So you knew but you took the darker way. An unusual way. A way of quiet strength. So he grew up to become the president bearing another man's name. And if you had changed that name, he wouldn't have become president.


Good luck. Stop pissing in other peoples wells. Else, you wake up one day in your grave with a guy standing over your grave and pissing in your mouth. Of course blood will be oozing from your chest and the angel of death will be laughing in the background. Vultures will be gliding in your eyes. Then you will remember the words of Solomon and other wise men.



Bible Verses About Adultery or Cheating67
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Exodus 20:14 You shall not commit adultery.

Leviticus 18:20
Do not have segxwal relations with your neighbor's wife and defile yourself with her.

Proverbs 5:3-9  For the lips of an adulteress drip honey, and her speech is smoother than oil; but in the end she is bitter as gall, sharp as a double-edged sword. Her feet go down to death; her steps lead straight to the grave. She gives no thought to the way of life; her paths are crooked, but she knows it not.

Proverbs 5:19-20  Why be captivated, my son, by an adulteress? Why embrace the bosom of another man's wife? For a man's ways are in full view of the LORD, and he examines all his paths. The evil deeds of a wicked man ensnare him; the cords of his sin hold him fast.

Proverbs 5:27-29 Can a man scoop fire into his lap without his clothes being burned? Can a man walk on hot coals without his feet being scorched? So is he who sleeps with another man's wife; no one who touches her will go unpunished.

Proverbs 5:32  But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys
himself.

Matthew 5:27, 28, 32 You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

John 8:4-11 [They] said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of

adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus
declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept
pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the segxwally immoral.

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Some men will waste you and your son. Leave the boy alone. Suffer in silence. Moreover there is no suffering except your foolish selfishness.

48  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. on: 21-12-2010 03:57 PM
@Demo, please if you wish for us to ponder on the meaninglessness in this realm of vanity called life, and if it is some topic that you think our opinion differs then please do send me a fight request.

As for your questions. I hope I have conveyed my ignorance. If I haven't, you could send me mail. Or put some beef on the fire at fight park.

Damn, I miss fight park. I do.
49  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 5) on: 21-12-2010 03:47 PM
@Abdul, if that is for me, should I read it? I will not. And If choose to and do, I will not reply.

For, the truth is you have not taking the time to understand me. And if you have understood, you have not taught me to see. That is selfish of you. I think.

So, engaging in further discussion with you would be unwise. The discussion will degenerate into pointlessness/purposelessness.

So, I wish you what Allah wishes you. Amen!

Don't go criticizing the last line. I am human.

I will descend into silence without you. Thank Allah for your existence. Amen.
50  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. on: 21-12-2010 02:55 PM
What is darkness? Darkness as we know it may not be darkness. For darkness as we know it could be zero. And it could be continuous into hell; light being said to be heaven.

And therefore I could word swing and shed the following: "Hell and Heaven\light are two sides of the same coin.

If the two sides of the-same coin are of the two-sides of the-same coin what do we get? I guess we don't have a coin. We have nothing.


@Demo, I reread what I wrote. Guess what? I just performed magic. I just made magic. See the lines above. You know the dark lines I am talking about. God!

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Tell Kpako that I have browsed one of the books he referred me to. Tell him that I had already rationalized all that was in it on my own before he recommended it. I got to this point of logical abstractions a long time ago in my university days.

If I could remember my past lifes, I would tell him to stay away from the dark side. As I can't, I have no admonishment for him. he is strictly on his own.

As for me, I wish to ride this crest of logic for as long as possible, if only using my foolish attachment to the "Abstraction of God" then so be it; for am I not but just a man?"

God/Enigma is perfect and in control. Amen!
51  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 4) on: 21-12-2010 02:46 PM
Quote from: democrazy on 20-12-2010 06:48 PM
@Agabs...........i follow and discuss with Pako and yourself cos we touch the main important questions i believe should be asked of black people.

Pleasde lets see this questions and the answers will shed light on a lot of things that we believe without doubting or reasons..........

WHO AM I??
Yes, who are you?
don't tell me Black man - that's nothing.

Who were you before the man named you "BLACK MAN"?
Where where you?
What did you have?
what was yours?
What language did you speak?
what was your name?

And why don't you know what your name was?
where did it go?
where did you lose it?
Who took it?
what tongue did you speak?
How did the man take your tonque?


Where is your history?
How didi the man wipe out your History?
what did the man do to make you as dumb as you are right now? (not personal Smiley)

The main question really is WHO AM I?


This is why i like pako's topics


@Demo, some questions you have there. U do know that humans answer questions according to their ignorance, right?

Who am I? Kpako, is it who or what? It is had to define myself. And if I do consequently manage, I don't think I will be able to communicate with words. I don't have a pure definition of myself.

Don't go calling me a sheeples. Ha h ahha ha hahahh. He hehehe h eheh.

In fact it is had to start. For I realize all my words are nothing. What I feel about myself is still not me. What I am is what I am. I could say I am immutable. Wooooo000000ooooow!!!!!!!!!!!! I could say, I am "Nothing". "Nothing" is that state that is. Wow. Or may be more perfectly, I could say I am a part of that "Nothingness" .  Okay.

I am not drowning, so, I won't clutch at straws. H a ha h aahah hah.

As for those questions you where asking about blackness or rather, "me relative to the whiteman", I can say that the white man aint gat shit on me.

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I know my name.
My name is with me.
I haven't lost my name. My name is still with me.

The white man hasn't wiped out my history. he can't it is impossible for the world's history is intact. The future cannot exist without the past. The trails no matter how convoluted are still there. They foot prints on the sands of time cannot be erased with the foul breeze of the ignorance of men.[[Yeah! Agabs has got a way with words. I think I should write for a living. ha hahahhah]]

The white man hasn't made me dumb. He can't. God can. The white man can't.

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I kind of hate it when you and Kpako talk about the white-man like he is God. You guys give him too much credit. Ha ha h ahhahah ah.

As for "WHO AM I?" I think that is not an answer to be given. I think only I can know that. I and the higher enigma. you could know too if the enigma chooses to tell you. However, I don't think it can be communicated with words. And yet that is self contradictory for words too are energy. Yes, I kind of like you and Kpakos energy philosophy. Hoewver, I do not understand enough if it. Mind you that I still use logic to process it.


You and Kpako are two crazy science ...........[[[Almost cursed, but, not with hate though..]]


The trouble or rather estimation I have with/of you and Kpako is that, you guys accord the white-man too much credit.

Can you guys give me an Ideal state? An ideal picture of the black race is what I wish to behold.

Like you guys could tell me how you think the Black man should be.

[[[It is all crazy. Pain and Pleasure are brothers. Can they exist with out each other? I doubt.

Pain and Pleasure are the-same side of the-same coin.
Sadness and Happiness are the-same side of the-same coin.
Negative and Positive are the-same side of the-same coin.


What is darkness? Darkness as we know it may not be darkness. For darkness as we know it could be zero. And it could be continuous into hell; light being said to be heaven.

And therefore I could word swing and shed the following: "Hell and Heaven\light are two sides of the same coin.

If the two sides of the-same coin are of the two-sides of the-same coin what do we get? I guess we don't have a coin. We have nothing.

@Demo, it is a mad nothing world.  For you spiritual niggers, I don't know. I don't know. Seriously.

I don't know. this is madness. I need a walk. I think tobacco.

Tobacco is negative energy.
52  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. on: 21-12-2010 01:20 PM
Honestly, you should test out meditation. its like having a problem and sleeping with it, you dream of its solutions. Meditation is a stepping stone to a whole world of wisdom.........................be back.....................dont want to write too long.

About planets...............what if i tell you the moon can be man made? Will you not need to look at man's creations to give it concideration of the possibility?

We need knowledge.......................Not sure about your discussion with the author of this topic though..........i dont think he reads books.


Meditation? Hmn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any thing is possible in this world. To say something is not possible is to restrict God. Pardon my humanity and yet do not. I believe God exists. It feels good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, "we need knowledge".

However, if everything is nothing, what will more learning do? More learning would probably be going around in circles. And at the end of the day man can be said to not really be an intelligent animal.

As for the poster, I wasn't suppose to comment on his topic in the first place. We see things from different angles.

@Demo, some sage wrote something in one of his books, "the wise man will avoid all extremes". And yet that dark wise mad man could have written that to prevent his students from attaining his level of understanding. Then, where is he right now? Is he not in the grave? Is he still here? So what is there to be envied in wisdom? What is there?

@Demo, same sage wrote, "God, created man simple, but, man has gone in search of many schemes."

Is meditation in the search of wisdom not going in search of schemes?

Same sage said, "What a heavy burden God has laid on men." Can you imagine his madness?
53  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. on: 21-12-2010 01:00 PM
Why the word GOD. Why the notion a CREATOR GOD.?
@Demo, you do know that an unsentimental answer to that question would be "I don't Know!", right?

Trying to rationalize that would be arriving  at nothing. [[[This is crazy. I am enforcing Kpakos philosophy here. And yet it is not intentional. Wow!]]]

In nature, every action has a reaction............there is also an undeniable existence of negative and positive.

every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Some scientist said that right? Words are not enough for this.

action + reaction = 0
negative + positive = 0
pain + pleasure = 0
wisdom + foolery = 0

 
@Democrazy, I just received a postulation from my super conscious. It is mad. This brink is crazy. Will share it some day.

So...........from you logic, mine, and Pako's.......I deduce

Nothing=negative=Dark Energy
Something=positive=light Energy

You cannot get Nothing out of something. something is an already existing entity.
BUT, you can get something out of Nothing....................hope you follow me..............

You cannot get negative out of positive. It is not posible in energy terms. i.e if all is good nothing will go bad and no incentive to make things better, leading to no changes or new creativity. On the other hand You can get positive from Negative.

Same goes for Light and dark energy. You cannot get Dark enrgy from Light..............you can have a look at mendels principles(or Laws) of heredity and genetics, it will also show that you can not get Black human skin, from a white ancestory.

Honestly, you should test out meditation. its like having a problem and sleeping with it, you dream of its solutions. Meditation is a stepping stone to a whole world of wisdom.........................be back.....................dont want to write too long.





@Demo, some of those sages do not believe in duality. I guess it can be argued that duality is man's creation.

I would like for you to take the numeral '0' into consideration. I would say that is balance. I would say when everything cancels out they produce that equilibrium which is zero.

So you may not get negative out of positive but you may get ne.....................................[[am processing,,,,,,,,,,,]]

Hmn! This brink is crazy. I d fear sef. Make I no come process logic inside my head come d waka with new born baby mentality for afternoon. This is crazy.

U say light comes from darkness.
U say positivity comes from negativity.

What if they exist independently? What if they are on a time line and zero is the point where they both seize to exist? But, can we say that ..............................I hated Abstract Algebra in school. They said I failed it. Fools. Ha h ah ahaha h ahha. Let us stay out of this mathematical zone. Cause I am not bounded by laws like I was in school. Hence I could process my way into the so called insanity as is accepted by humans. Logic says I should stay within a certain reality for the sake of the partial humans around me.


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54  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. on: 20-12-2010 06:22 PM
I arrived at this point in the university with the benefit of my intellect - a raw procession of logic with certain emphasized variables - variables that were prioritized by time and chance.

If some humans would take the last line seriously, they could stumble into what is so called earthly power. And even if they did, the demonstration would be left to the enigma that is.
55  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. on: 20-12-2010 06:11 PM
@Kpako would enjoy what I have written above. I think sometimes I express some things he doesn't express. H aha hah haha hah  ha. It seems he has crossed the line to some form of spirituality. Me I prefer this plane of logic - though it means so useless.

That guy is crazy. Logically so sometimes. However, his feminine energy some times is beyond my comprehension. I don't wish to know. I guess Solomon said to the making of many books there is no end and much study wearies the body.

I am trying to be careful. Cause, after I arrived at this point of logical reasoning, my life became not too happy - happiness is good and bad. Moreover, I arrived at this point in the university without the benefit of my intellect. That is why I sometimes warn people to stay away from this kind of discussions. Madness and sanity are the same side of the same coin. Madness and sanity are the-same. The world's definition is what holds in the world's mind. When you get to this point of logical reasoning, the forces of the world bid for you. Not that the forces of the world are not bidding for everybody. When you get to this point, the forces behind existence may not be gentle with you.

Crazy! Let me stop writing. Make I just stop writing.

@Democrazy, pardon me If I don't come back here to continue this discuss. You could send me a fight invite @fight park. Moreover fight park is more appropriate for a discussion such as this.


Enough. Enough. Enough for here.

Yeah we have nuts we haven't untied. I still ask you guys to send me documents espousing your philosophies. that is if una never go completely spiritual. How dem wan take put jazz inside document? Ehn?

@Demo, you I think are still a little here. I think @Kpako may have ......................................
56  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 4) on: 20-12-2010 05:42 PM
Quote from: democrazy on 17-12-2010 11:43 PM
@Agabs, am only just enjoying your flow here.................I know we also have nuts we havent untied yet, but this topic means nothing to me. I know there is religion, and can see all the religious fcukas around, also I know there is GOD, cause even I say, the word without any intention, it has been inductrinated into us all. Also to cap all my "know all", I know they are not what they purpot to be, if anything, they are complete opposite.

Just my question for you is this.............You rightly said......."I draw the line between what I know and what I don't know. I am also conscious of what I believe based on faith."

Dont you think all your logic statements cancel out you last sentence above?

Also, if "GOD" came to earth to create Humans, does that mean he went to all the other planets to create the lifeforms their too. Or does this lifeforms not include, sea(water), mountains, vegitation, air, etc.


@Demo, remember fight park when I proposed that man was blameless?  I doubt it matters though. Do remember that I said that man was blameless cause man is exactly what God created him to be.

All my logic statements do not cancel out my last statement above and yet they do. For, logic begets zero. Hence the world being defined as vanity by some sages.

@Demo, I kind of understand @Kpako when he is talking about this plane being unreal. That is cause, this world is nothing. That is why Solomon said everything is meaningless.

Okay let me try to break it down.

Religion < God according to logic. I don't want to type the next line. For I do not want to process that logic. According to some humans understanding it may be blasphemy.

You see, believing in God for me is something I choose to do. It is something that is not backed up by good reason - according to my logic it can be said to be stupid. I guess the reason why I believe in God is I haven't deprogrammed myself not to. I do not wish to. It feels comfortable. If I de-program myself  who knows what might happen? I don't wish to know. I do not. I want to believe in God. Something in my programming wishes it so. Blame my humanity and exonerate me at the same time. Ha haah ha hahahhaha. Call it fear if you will. If it is fear then I am a coward and perfectly so. I can stop believing I have a God right now. I choose to be blind. Ha ha hah ah h ahahah. I choose to believe that God exists. Every body is right.

@Demo, remember, everything is nothing.


@Demo, understand that within logic, religion can be said to be less than God. So if somebody has got faith in religion, somebody who has faith in God but not religion will see things that person cannot see. So, you see that my arguement with the poster was because he has faith in his religion. He is not wrong to have faith in his religion. He may have faith in his religion more than he has in God. Or rather, it probably never occured to him to separate religion from God. And that is not logical - within a certain pattern of logic - for God was before any Religion.

Cause he has faith in his religion, he doesn't really focus on the ramifications of the perfect Nature of God. Cause he stays within the confines or rather emphasised context of the definition of God by his religion, he may not criticize his own Religion relative to the proposed perfect Nature of God.. Notice you that people who have not analyzed the proposed perfect Nature of God by religion as is relative to their religion or the world will always force the discussion to stay within the boundaries of the scope of their religion.

Remember, I think I wrote somewhere that the very description of God as being perfect by religion weakens religion.

I don't know If I am making sense. If I am not, that is what the universe wishes.

[[[WORDS ARE FOOLISH. WORDS ARE FOOLISH. WORDS ARE FOOLISH. WORDS ARE FOOLISH.]]]

Remember @fight park, I commented that you and @Kpako's philosophies are just a notch higher than mine. I am not saying you guys are right. I don't know. I don't know if you guys are wrong. I can not logically comprehend your philosophies. You guys are mad and not.


@Democrazy, If I haven't satisfied your question, please, shed more light on the conflict.

Note that I am not judging the poster. I also do not propose that I am not prone to mistakes. You see, I understand that I am just a human that was created by my maker.

@Demo, there is a level of logical reasoning that you get to that everything starts breaking down. Everything including the word 'everything'.

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I shouldn't contribute in discussions relative to God or religion. Cause, there are some things that when I am writing, I know that a lot of people will not get it. I see hear their questions after I have given them the answer. Ha ha hahhahhah hhah. And their questions are logical within their cadre of logicality. So, they can't just ascend to a higher form of comprehension without effort on their part,

That is why sometimes I write things like, we are all mad. That is why I may write that Solomon was a mad man. Humans who do not understand may be like he just blasphemed. They won't understand that cause Solomon's wisdom was not normal, I called him mad.

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[[[WORDS ARE FOOLISH. WORDS ARE FOOLISH. WORDS ARE FOOLISH]]] And yet words are not.


Words are inadequate. Symbols are better. Words are not inadequate. Symbols are not better. For symbols are words and backwards.

@Democrazy, to your questions, "Also, if "GOD" came to earth to create Humans, does that mean he went to all the other planets to create the lifeforms their too. Or does this lifeforms not include, sea(water), mountains, vegitation, air, etc."



@Democrazy, I do not know how many planets are out there. My believe that planets exist is based on faith. That is according to my programming.

Within my programming, I believe everything is tied together. According to the Holy-books, man was created with air, sea, mountain, and etcetera. Within our programming we can say that man is made from atoms according to science.

Some crazy professor has said that everything is based on the hydrogen atom. Crazy.

How much do I know? @Democrazy, I am just but a child. I am a fool. And yet the word fool should not even be used to describe me for I am more. I hope so.









57  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 4) on: 20-12-2010 03:47 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 20-12-2010 02:29 PM
Quote from: agabs on 17-12-2010 02:20 PM
4. or do you think the white man that you are saying can come up with a new design of something without any manual,guiding how to operate his designed property?

Do I still need to answer this pointless and un-wise question?

Man is not something to be operated by "Man" or "Animals". If man is something to be operated externally then the manual is with God.

If God wants man to operate themselves then he will make the manual inbuilt - in which case we wouldn't use the term 'manual' in Computer Engineering circles. We would say that man is configured or programmed. Man is not at the level of a car.

There is a certain basic configuration man is bestowed with. And that is an innate desire to preserve self. Man is configured to feel pain and pleasure. Man therefore acts between pain and pleasure basically.

Babies cry when they are hungry. They smile when they are happy. We humans create thing every day.

I DO GET YOUR INSINUATION.

You are insinuating that God wants everybody to live according to the Holy Koran. I don't know if that is what God wants. I however can say according to my ignorance that if that is what God wants, then he doesn't want it too badly.

If God wants everybody to be Muslims, he has the power to put the Holy-Koran into their head forcefully. If he wants everybody to be Muslims, in a blink he can turn everybody Muslim. Why hasn't he done that? I do not know.

I do not know what God is thinking or how he thinks. I can not claim to know. I can not assume I know what God is thinking. You have to convince me logically to accept your view or opinion of what God wants or wishes. I will not lie to myself to please you or anyone.

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I draw the line between what I know and what I don't know. I am also conscious of what I believe based on faith.


All of this Statements shows that you act by your words. You are a man that not only betray his creator but also humanity as well.

You are speaking and you are contradicting your self. Is this what you call "Good comprehension skills"?.

You don't have to show me you know computer in this chat, because you don't know to whom you are talking to. Computer Engineer is an electrical engineer with additional knowledge in  computer science.  You show your ignorance here by linking manual and car industries only. If you don't know something, is better to ask than to go in blind argument. Engineer need manual to guide the users  on how to operate his design. next time  check your statement before you finally send it to public. Remember you Lack understanding. any way you act by your ignorance..... shame on you.. man.....
Pls You go and check people that has nagetive attitude like you and talk to them. I don't have your time.

 
Ha ha h ah ha hah ah.

After everything I wrote, the only thing you could comment on was Manual and Car industries. Wow!

Ha ha hhah ahah ah.

You are a child when it comes to logic.

And a fool that fools should call a fool. Ha h ahhah ahah ah  hahah.

You are pathetic.

You my friend cannot read in between the lines. It will take you years to comprehend everything I have written. So I advice you stay within your comfort zone.

We all act according to our ignorance. But you think you are a God. you think you are the most wise human. You you know everything.

Ha hah h ah ha hah.

Theoretical scientist that has a poor ability at precision processing. I hiss. If your anger and stinking pride is what you call positivity. I want no part of it.

A wise man once said, "go from the presence of a man if you do not find words of wisdom."

Out of everything, you can't even present constructive analysis of my opinion.

Even amongst fools you are a fool. You say contradiction is evident, yet you do not ask why. H aha h haha h. May be you are scared your poor comprehension will be made evident.

MR God that is just a poor human, you are not worth interacting with.



58  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 4) on: 17-12-2010 02:20 PM
4. or do you think the white man that you are saying can come up with a new design of something without any manual,guiding how to operate his designed property?

Do I still need to answer this pointless and un-wise question?

Man is not something to be operated by "Man" or "Animals". If man is something to be operated externally then the manual is with God.

If God wants man to operate themselves then he will make the manual inbuilt - in which case we wouldn't use the term 'manual' in Computer Engineering circles. We would say that man is configured or programmed. Man is not at the level of a car.

There is a certain basic configuration man is bestowed with. And that is an innate desire to preserve self. Man is configured to feel pain and pleasure. Man therefore acts between pain and pleasure basically.

Babies cry when they are hungry. They smile when they are happy. We humans create thing every day.

I DO GET YOUR INSINUATION.

You are insinuating that God wants everybody to live according to the Holy Koran. I don't know if that is what God wants. I however can say according to my ignorance that if that is what God wants, then he doesn't want it too badly.

If God wants everybody to be Muslims, he has the power to put the Holy-Koran into their head forcefully. If he wants everybody to be Muslims, in a blink he can turn everybody Muslim. Why hasn't he done that? I do not know.

I do not know what God is thinking or how he thinks. I can not claim to know. I can not assume I know what God is thinking. You have to convince me logically to accept your view or opinion of what God wants or wishes. I will not lie to myself to please you or anyone.

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I draw the line between what I know and what I don't know. I am also conscious of what I believe based on faith.
59  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 4) on: 17-12-2010 02:00 PM
3. If now Iam a designer of a computer system that you are using and writing this jargons, do you think I design it without any purpose?

If you were the designer of the computer system, that u are using to write jargons, you know the purpose you created the computer for. If the computer
doesn't live up to the purpose your created it for, then you are a bad scientist.

Shay you want to compare humans to computer, come here make I give you sense.

If you say that God created man for a purpose and man is not living up to the purpose, then you are saying God is not perfect. I believe the God I believe in is perfect. Unlike you who thinks that the first humans that were created where not fulfilling their purpose or that people who are not muslims are not fulfilling their purpose.

I believe man is exactly what God created him to be. I believe God didn't make a single mistake. I believe God had his specifications right. And he met his intended specifications. So don't tell me that there is somebody in this world that his not fulfilling his purpose already.

To say that God created man for a purpose and he is not meeting that purpose is to say that God made a mistake. Does Allah make mistakes?
Answer me! Earthling that you are. Come and answer. Comparer of humans to computers that you are.

Did Allah make a  mistake when he was creating humans? If he didn't make a mistake how then can you say his creations is not fulfilling the purpose he created them for?

So called scientist, how many times have I told you not to assume that you know how or what God is thinking?

Within logic, if you say God is perfect then you can't tell me that Man is not exactly what he created him to be. If he created man weak then he created man weak. If man is not fulfilling the purpose he created man for then he is not perfect.

Is your God perfect or not? If your God is perfect then man is fulfilling the purpose he created man for. If man is sinful it is because God/Allah created him so. If you say God created man perfect but the devil came and made man sinful, then you are saying God can not protect what he has created. Then you are saying that God did not know when the devil came to deceive man. Or you are saying that God knew that devil will deceive man but he permitted the devil.

If you say he wanted to see if man could resist the devil,  then you are saying God/Allah is not perfect because humanity is now sinful.

Man as sinful or good or bad as he is, is exactly what God created him to be. If man is sinful it is because God/Allah wants it so. If he doesn't want it, he will change. If God wants to change man but he can't you are saying he is not perfect.

Is your God/Allah perfect? Did he make a mistake when he created you?
60  Forum / Religion / Re: HE WHO SAYS THERE IS NO RELIGION/GOD IS SENSELESS AND NEED MEDICAL CHECK UP. (Page 4) on: 17-12-2010 12:27 PM
I need to eat. My operating system is receiving input from my hardware. My Operating System has made a purpose - food. I will come back. I hope when I come back you will come here and tell me sensible.

Continuation of this discussion pointless. I have made my point.

And that is God is not at the level of Religion humans practice. So when next when you type "Religion" don't put a slash and type "God". Do not use Religion and God interchangeably. They are two different things. That is what I tried to correct in the first place. Before your futile attempt to turn this discussion into an attack on Islam.

I criticize religion from a logical standpoint, and I do not do it to insult or convert or convince any body. I say it according to my understanding and I do not hide the fact that there are a lot of things I don't know. I also wish to learn. If you cannot respect that, then, please do not engage me in any further discussion.

And yes, I believe I was created. I believe in my creator.
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