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1  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 8) on: 2-08-2013 08:01 PM
Actually, gbojac i studied new testament greek in school jst last year, and I can tell u that I can read the new testament in its original language.. So to a good extent I can claim authority over you in that respect..age difference doesnt matter. However I cannot claim to have the holy spirit in me and neither can you, but there are exegetes led by the Holy spirit who made this interpretations. And i quote them. And I neva said the crusade was to kill a few muslims, no..i said the crusade was a war between the church and the muslims under general sala'adin to recapture jerusalem.  And no priests ever killed any slave. Quote me anywhere. They might have owned i agree and yet some were against it. But there was no killing of any slave by priests.  
And really i jst laugh at ur hypothesis that our church faces east, u see why I stated that u only hate what u believe. I can think of four catholic churches that faces four different directions. And even if anyone face east or west and pray it doesnt mean a thing my dear, God is everywhere.
Please, anybody can concot any theory about anybody. Ignatius being a free-mason is despicable. Give me a link to an authentic document..containing credible reports and eyewitness testimony not weaving.
You say the catholic church rule world affair.. I will correct you on all grounds on that assertion. The catholic church does not rule world affairs in the context u place it. Becaus if its true then there would be no gay marriage, becos the catholic church is against it, there would be no use of condom because the catholic church is against it. If the catholic church rules then this shld not be. However, even if we accept ad argumentum that the catholic church rules, ur argument still loses all logical grounds because God is also our father but there is still suffering. Does that mean that God is any less good?
Now, calling the catholic church idol worshippers still affirms my position that you just hate what you believe not the catholic church. The catholic church do not worship these images. These images are present in the church for thesame reason God commanded Moses to build a brazen serpent, for thesame reason God commanded the israelite to build an ark, when the ark came bk to israel and david danced wildly, he was not dancin to the ark but to God which repressents God. These statues in thesame vein are not God but jst a representation jst like the ark and the brazen serpent.
2  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 7) on: 2-08-2013 09:30 AM
Gbojac you do not hate the catholic church, you only hate what you believe about the catholic church.
I dnt knw what your pastor told you that you are so bitter. But my priests has told me not to condemn you or your church, for we are all brothers and one in Christ Jesus.
3  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 7) on: 2-08-2013 09:27 AM
You misunderstand the bible, God states explicitly ''do not judge'' just as he stated ''do not steal'', do not fornicate'', these are categorical imperatives, you cannot reduce these. God's word is God's word.
Concerning laws, man is allowed to make his own laws as long as it is in consonance to God's law....let me enlighten you...there are four type of laws, eternal law, natural law, human law and divine law. Eternal law is that by which all things are guided through the wisdom of God. Both man and stones. under these u have d law of gravity, a stone thrown up must come down. NATURAL LAW is man's participation in the eternal law. These are laws which are naturally in man as soon as he is conceived, and that is good is to be done and pursued and evil is to be avoided. That is why everybody on earth goes after his own good and avoid what would harm him. Thirdly there is HUMAN LAW, the human law is the particular application of the natural law. The human must be in conformity with the natural law or else it wld be immoral. (thus human laws acceptin gay marriage is immoral bcos it does not conform to the natural law of do good and avoid evil but the law in massachussets that says it is illegal not to help someone in need is a moral law bcos it conforms with the natural law. FOURTH, there is the divine law, gotten from the new law and the old law( old and new testament) however the new law surpasses the old, for the old induced men to obserbe its commandment by fear of punishment but the new law by love which is poured into our hearts by the grace of christ .
4  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 7) on: 2-08-2013 08:54 AM
Gbojac never put words in Gods mouth, Jesus never said it is against the law of God not to marry, instead he says in verse 11 that it is not everyone who can accept celibacy but only those to whom it has been granted. He continues that some people make themselves eunuchs(not to marry) for the sake of d kingdom of heaven. And Jesus concludes by sayin, let anyone accept this who can.
5  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 7) on: 1-08-2013 10:23 PM
Romans 8:34,“Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
One of the most common traits of the human sin nature is to gossip and condemn one another. The Bible calls it wickedsin. James 5:9 warns against judging others because God is the only Judge, and because we must give account to Him (see also Romans 14:10-12). Condemning others is a serious matter to God, for in so doing a person only heaps judgment upon them self for being a judge rather than a doer of God's Law.
Most people are self-righteous critics, scorners, hypocrites, and gossipers who will be sorry in eternity...
James 4:11-12, “Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evilof the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou artnot a doer of the law, but a judge.There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?”
Who art thou that judgest another? God asks this question. What gives anyone a right to point fingers and speak harshly and with condemnation against another human being,for we are all filthy sinners in God's sight...
Psalms 14:2, “The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Did you read what God said in Psalm 14:2...THEY ARE ALL TOGETHER BECOMEFILTHY!!!
6  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 7) on: 1-08-2013 10:20 PM
And again, pope francis is against the sin of homosegxwalism, research the internet, he was firmly against the government of argentina wen they wanted to legalise gay marriage. What he is sayin is for us to love the sinner but hate the sin.
7  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 7) on: 1-08-2013 10:13 PM
Ok, i'll take ur claims one by one. you cannot say the catholic church supported slavery, that would be the logical fallacy of hasty generalisation. Some members of the catholic church supported and most others were firm abolutionists.. In dsame sense, the apostles did not betray or deny christ, but some did(judas and peter), bt still it doesnt make the apostles evil or peter evil.
For priests not marrying read matt 19:12 and 1cor 7:32-35, in shrt the whole of 1corinthians chapter 7 it talks of being married and staying unmarried and abt stayin unmarried being the better part. U shld read ur bible before comments.
8  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 6) on: 1-08-2013 01:28 PM
And gbojac, the crusades were actually a war against the muslims for jerusalem. And wat rules are contrary?
9  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 6) on: 1-08-2013 01:13 PM
Remember, christianity is the only religion that calls on sinners to come. it is only the sick man that needs the doctor. Sinners need God. Dont chase dem bcos of ur self-righteousness.
10  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 6) on: 1-08-2013 01:10 PM
Ok.  But all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. We are all sinners, no matter hw, dsame place is reserved for all who do not change. Why den do we condemn dis pple as if dey are above redemption, you cannot turn dem to God thru dis way. Your way of life as a christian should shw dem dat the model of christianity is best, being christlike, followin the summation of all examples christ layed down, God is love. God condemned homosegxwalism, lying, immorality, fornication, bribery, covetousness, anger, pride. All this, if dey do not change would go to hell. They are all sins, God knew dis and yet said, ''do not jugde, bcos as u judge the other harshly, knw u urslef are in sin and God will judge u harshly.
11  Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: SEE the Quote of the day; Pope Francis on gay people (Page 6) on: 31-07-2013 03:09 PM
gbojac what about matthew 5:43, that asks us to hate our enemy. What about matt 9:10 where jesus ate with publicans.
What about matt 5:45 that says God sends the rain and sun upon the upright and sinners alike. And the bible commands us to be like unto God.
What about the parable of the good samaritan that commands us to take everyone as our neighbour. We are all children of God and thus brothers, even the gay ones.
The pope is against their union..but he does not hate the gay people. Love the sinner but hate the sin..that is the christian thing to do..that is what the pope is saying.
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