SAD: How 20 Years Old Girl Encouraged Her Boyfriend To Commit Suicide and Told Him How (SAD)

2 years ago by: Daniel Bosai
(m) at 9-06-2017 07:25PM (2 years ago)

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Massachusetts teen Michelle Carter repeatedly gave boyfriend Conrad Roy III lists of ways he could commit suicide in the weeks before he took his own life, a court heard Thursday.

Carter, then 17, told Roy, 18, in text messages that he could break his neck by hanging, stab himself, or use a generator to gas himself, the court heard.

She also became angry at him for 'putting off' suicide for too long, telling him, 'You just need to do it!'

The court also heard from Roy himself in the form of a pair of video diaries in which he talks about trying to overcome his depression, social anxiety, and feelings of worthlessness.

In one moving moment, he says he's scared that he 'will never be successful, will never have a wife, never have kids, never learn.'

Prosecutors say Michelle Carter sent her boyfriend, Conrad Roy III, dozens of text messages urging him to take his own life.

Carter's lawyer argue that she tried repeatedly to talk him out of it and only began to support the plan when it became clear he would not change his mind.

Here are a series of texts seen in court documents, organized chronologically:

June 19, 2014:

Carter: 'But the mental hospital would help you. I know you don't think it would but I'm telling you, if you give them a chance, they can save your life'

Carter: 'Part of me wants you to try something and fail just so you can go get help'

Roy: 'It doesn't help. Trust me'

Carter: 'So what are you gonna do then? Keep being all talk and no action and everyday go thru saying how badly you wanna kill yourself? Or are you gonna try to get better?'

Roy: 'I can't get better I already made my decision.'


June 23, 2014:

Carter: 'How do you want to harm yourself'

Roy: 'Something idkk yet'

Carter: 'Please don't'

Roy: 'I hate myself I'll always hate myself, I'm never gonna view myself as good I'm so far behind'

Carter: 'What is harming yourself gonna do!? Nothing! It will make it worse!'

Roy: 'Make the pain go away like you said'

Carter: 'It will make the pain go away temporarily, but when you're done, you'll just regret it and feel even worse!'


July 7, 2014:

Roy: 'If you were in my position. honestly what would you do'

Carter: 'I would get help. That's just me tho. When I have a serious problem like that my first instinct is to get help because I know I can't do it on my own'


Later that day, they talk about how he could make carbon monoxide (CO) in order to suffocate to death 

Carter: 'Well there's more ways to make CO. Google ways to make it. . . '

Roy: 'Omg'

Carter: 'What'

Roy: 'portable generator that's it'


July 8, 2014:

Carter: 'So are you sure you don't wanna [kill yourself] tonight?'

Roy: 'What do you mean am I sure?'

Carter: 'Like, are you definitely not doing it tonight?'

Roy: 'Idk yet I'll let you know'

Carter: 'Because I'll stay up with you if you wanna do it tonight'

Roy: 'Another day wouldn't hurt'

Carter: 'You can't keep pushing it off, tho, that's all you keep doing'


July 11, 2014:

After Roy suggests putting a generator in the truck to make CO rather than a water pump:

Carter: '...Well in my opinion, I think u should do the generator because I don't know much about the pump and with a generator u can't fail'


July 4-12, 2014:

The following was sent over a nine-day span. The *** symbols show a gap in communications between the two.

Carter: 'You're gonna have to prove me wrong because I just don't think you really want this. You just keeps pushing it off to another night and say you'll do it but you never do'


Carter: 'SEE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. YOU KEEP PUSHING IT OFF! You just said you were gonna do it tonight and now you're saying eventually...'


Carter: 'But I bet you're gonna be like 'oh, it didn't work because I didn't tape the tube right or something like that' . . . I bet you're gonna say an excuse like that'


Carter: 'Do you have the generator?'

Roy: 'not yet lol'



Carter: 'You better not be bulls***ing me and saying you're gonna do this and then purposely get caught'


July 11-12, 2014:

Again, *** shows a gap in communications

Roy: 'I'm just to sensitive. I want my family to know there was nothing they could do. I am entrapped in my own thoughts'

Roy: 'like no I would be happy if they had no guilt about it. because I have a bad feeling tht this is going to create a lot of depression between my parents/sisters'

Roy: 'i'm overthinking everything. . f**k. I gotta stop and just do it'

Carter: 'I think your parents know you're in a really bad place. Im not saying they want you to do it, but I honestly feel like they can accept it. They know there's nothing they can do, they've tried helping, everyone's tried. But there's a point that comes where there isn't anything anyone can do to save you, not even yourself, and you've hit that point and I think your parents know you've hit that point. You said you're mom saw a suicide thing on your computer and she didn't say anything. I think she knows it's on your mind and she's prepared for it'

Carter: 'Everyone will be sad for a while, but they will get over it and move on. They won't be in depression I won't let that happen. They know how sad you are and they know that you're doing this to be happy, and I think they will understand and accept it. They'll always carry u in their hearts'


Roy: 'i don't want anyone hurt in the process though'

Roy: 'I meant when they open the door, all the carbon monoxide is gonna come out they can't see it or smell it. whoever opens the door'

Carter: 'They will see the generator and know that you died of CO. . . .'


Roy: 'hey can you do me a favor'

Carter: 'Yes of course'

Roy: 'just be there for my family Smiley'

Carter: 'Conrad, of course I will be there for your family. I will help them as much as I can to get thru this, ill tell them about how amazing their son/brother truly was'


Roy: 'Idk I'm freaking out again'

Roy: I'm overthinking'

Carter: 'I thought you wanted to do this. The time is right and you're ready, you just need to do it! You can't keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did last time and not think about it and just do it babe. You can't keep doing this every day'

Roy: 'I do want to. but like I'm freaking for my family. I guess'

Roy: 'idkkk'

Carter: 'Conrad. I told you I'll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won't be alone and people will help them get thru it. We talked about this, they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide don't think this much and they just do it'


July 12, 2014:

In these exchanges on the day before his body was found, Roy expresses more hesitation about his plan.

Carter: 'So I guess you aren't gonna do it then, all that for nothing'

Carter: 'I'm just confused like you were so ready and determined'

Roy: 'I am gonna eventually'

Roy: 'I really don't know what I'm waiting for. . but I have everything lined up'

Carter: 'No, you're not, Conrad. Last night was it. You keep pushing it off and you say you'll do it but u never do. Its always gonna be that way if u don't take action'

Carter: 'You're just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off, you just have to do it'

Carter: 'Do u wanna do it now?'

Roy: 'Is it too late?'

Roy: 'Idkk it's already light outside'

Roy: I'm gonna go back to sleep, love you I'll text you tomorrow'

Carter: 'No? Its probably the best time now because everyone's sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck. And no one's really out right now because it's an awkward time'

Carter: 'If u don't do it now you're never gonna do it'

Carter: 'And u can say you'll do it tomorrow but you probably won't'


Carter: 'You just need to do it Conrad or I'm gonna get you help'

Carter: 'You can't keep doing this everyday'

Roy: 'Okay I'm gonna do it today'

Carter: 'Do you promise'

Roy: 'I promise babe'

Roy: 'I have to now'

Carter: 'Like right now?'

Roy: 'where do I go? Sad'

Carter: 'And u can't break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something.'

gogoman (m) at 9-06-2017 07:31PM
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faces never lie
kacylee (f) at 9-06-2017 07:50PM
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this is just sad!!!

Dramaking (m) at 9-06-2017 08:35PM
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Smh... What yall expect when ya allow crack snuffin parent 2 bring forth kids into this world, trainnin em always a problem, even the system abroad is messed up, i pity 9ja guys who choose 2 raise their kids abroad. #SHAME.
chukkychukky (m) at 9-06-2017 08:37PM
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dis person na ur girl frnd or ur mother?

schmit (f) at 9-06-2017 09:07PM
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SOGaiya (m) at 9-06-2017 09:28PM
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i am nt suprise women psychology is strenge
Goodluck-just (m) at 9-06-2017 09:36PM
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Wat ar u pple even sayin seff?Huh???, d guy is an idiot,,,, ahhhh, as i dey so, one girl go com tel me say mak  i go hang mysef, den i go com rily hang?Huh?Huh????no way na, dat devil is a liar mohamad.........
crocatum (m) at 9-06-2017 09:44PM
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pricklong (m) at 9-06-2017 09:57PM
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That girl had got another boyfriend so she dont like this boy again that is while she persuded this boy to kill himself
Mikexp (m) at 10-06-2017 03:12AM
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Another 21 century news
Markeve (f) at 10-06-2017 06:18AM
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@ pricklong u sad it all she found some else  already daughter of jazzibel.
morgan1 (m) at 10-06-2017 10:19AM
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If u look d girl face well,,,u go see witch inside,,,,,
benosky4 (m) at 10-06-2017 08:19PM
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Pretty monster.

BournIdentity (m) at 12-06-2017 09:36PM
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Roll Eyes                                                                           
Larry28 (f) at 13-06-2017 05:05PM
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Let her jus be jail straight.
BournIdentity (m) at 15-06-2017 03:14AM
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Roll Eyes                                                                           
osayan1 (m) at 29-06-2017 02:17PM
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