Lagos Parents May Go To Jail For Flogging Their Children (Page 4)

Date: 08-07-2010 2:00 pm (13 years ago) | Author: Daniel Bosai
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- divineproject at 10-07-2010 02:20 PM (13 years ago)
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so what happens to 'SPARE THE ROD AND SPOIL THE CHILD?'.........it is not gonna work.......we dont need kids that would ride their parents......at one time or the other a child needs to be put in his/her place!

Posted: at 10-07-2010 02:20 PM (13 years ago) | Hero
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- belindajustins at 10-07-2010 04:33 PM (13 years ago)
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seriously...dis won't work, not in Naija
Posted: at 10-07-2010 04:33 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- agabs at 10-07-2010 09:32 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ammyjane on  9-07-2010 07:37 AM
Quote from: wunzie on  9-07-2010 12:26 AM
The law on flogging children is a welcome development especially in a country like Nigeria where there has been gross violation of children's rights. While noone is suggesting that kids should not be reprimanded when they are wrong, flogging them as if they are animals is not only inhuman but has the potential of leaving a lasting  psychological scar on them.

The truth is, there are better ways of correcting a child which cannot be equated to brutality. These methods are proven to be effective in achieving the desired results while not presenting the problem of alienation which the former (Flogging) may likely engender  in the future.

My parents never once flogged us, yet we were alway careful not to offend them because there were consequences for bad behaviour and we cherished so much the love which they provided. So, the fact is, even without deploying this outdated method of flogging we have all turned out well in my opinion. Perhaps am a little stubborn but this is not in anyway negative- indeed it is positive, as this stubborness has reflected in the resolute way in which i have pursued many of my aspirations.

Story my sister, that is for you. There are some kids that needs real iron hand otherwise they will go astray and that is what most parent try to avoid.

Ha ha hahaha. Spare the rod and spoil the child is no new saying. There are some things that have immediate consequences. Like when a child puts his hands in the fire, he gets burnt and learn not to ever do that.

Let me tell you a short story of some naughty friends I had in primary school. Somewhere in the middle belt. There was this lovely school with lovely students. On the wide untarred road that led to this school, there was this hollow dead tree trunk. The hollow of this beautiful tree was filled with honey. Some bees called the tree trunk home. And somewhere in that sweet trunk rested their cherished 
queen. They constantly attended to her and made sure she was protected and fat. Ha hahahahahahah. They had every right to be in that tree trunk cause our mother 'nature' said so.

After the last bell for the day had been rung one normal day. I and some of my fearless friends departed for home. Hurried we did, cause, the enzymes in our tummies had turned acidic. I longed for my afternoon plate of rice and the subsequent piece of meat that would crown it. I can not really remember if the precursor to the diabolic event was an argument that questioned our marksmanship. I do know that my fearless friends picked up stones and started aiming at the door of the hollow of the sweet trunk.

A few stones did disturb the bees fat queen. They didn't like it. Out they came in their entirety, singing songs of war and looking for their foe. As is mostly the case, spark match stick is not in the fire. Unawares boys and girls gallivanting home from school ran into those angry soldiers. Stung they were repeatedly. Glee it was for some of us that some teachers got stung. Ha ah ahahah.

To cut the long story short. The next morning at the assembly ground, names were called and my fearless friends had to prove their fearlessness. More so that the weapon of correction was the Headmaster's cherished wire 'koboko'. Ha ah ahahah. The ground wouldn't open, and mountains wouldn't fall on my friends. The strokes they had to collect in front of the assembly. Some were seers and wore cut jeans under their shorts. Some were like the 5 brides and were not prepared. The strokes were dished and one had his shorts falling. He was left in his underpants. Wicked as the headmaster was, he cared not for the young man's pride. The wires kept cutting the air to find the bum-bum. Ha hahah ahah.

What was the point. The point of the place of punishment being the assembly was to warn other students of such demeanor. The point of flogging the students was to teach them to be considerate in all their actions. It was to teach them to always let sleeping dogs lie.

Wunzie, you know how boys are. If those boys were not flogged, if they find another bee hive, would they not throw stones at it? Did they not deserve flogging? Cause many pupils were stung and some teachers were stung too. It would have been cool if only the teachers got stung. But, some of our friends got stung also.

Ever read the 'Adventures of Souza'?

For now, the African child should be flogged when he messes up.

Wunzie, there is colleague that does me 'waka' sometimes. She is 28. Have been correcting her. And her told her that it is like she wasn't flogged as a kid. She said yes. She said her mother didn't let anybody flog her. She is lucky. Very lucky. For if she does the wrong Nigerian 'waka' they could hex her hand. And who would want to put a ring on a hexed hand? Even now, the 'Waka' is the reason I aint considering her hand for a ring. Cause, you never know when she will do your Mama or Papa or Brother or Friend 'Waka'. In case u do not no what I mean by 'Waka' it is that expression that is done by spreading your five fingers out till your palms are taut and pointing your palms at the insulted. Ha ah ahahhaha.

Wunzie, you do have a point about better ways to correct children. However, man's heart is evil and stripes purge the heart of evil. So says King Solomon and he is wiser than you, your parents and the lawmakers. Moreover, I would say your Father never flogged you cause, you did commit something really deserving of flogging. You for try go steal from another person house. If u tried that and your father didn't then he is very lucky he hasn't buried you.

Sorry, my hands are like electrified. I guess it is this George Benson playing in the background. Hmn! I walked down memory lane today. I know what you are thinking. I wasn't one of the boys that were flogged.

I just saw a frog. In my office? Ironically, I have picked up some computer power cable. I am killing that thing. Make I kill am before e run. Is this some joke?


The second strike got it. Can  you imagine. It is dead now. I not on the first floor. How did that thing get upstairs? How? To close this discussion, If had a child and he was the one that brought it up, I will definitely flog him. What if it gives him or me or somebody else some disease? Whose money will be spent? And what if the disease is not curable?

Wunzie, flog your children if they go to extremes. It could save them from death.

No proof-reading. Have to get rid of some frog. That involves going downstairs. That also involves the not pleasant action of putting it in some poly-ethane. Hmn. Wonders will never end. Wonders will never end. How did that thing get upstairs? In a room with printers and computer boxes everywhere? This room is suppose to be sealed. This room is sealed.

I must get to the bottom of this. Na JAZZ? ehn?


You guys have made me evening. I love typing. What if that frog rot right now? That would be the freakest encounter in a long time.
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- wheezdawmmetchy at 10-07-2010 10:49 PM (13 years ago)
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with this development, we're really in for it. Can't wait
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- wunzie at 10-07-2010 11:36 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on 10-07-2010 09:32 PM
Quote from: ammyjane on  9-07-2010 07:37 AM
Quote from: wunzie on  9-07-2010 12:26 AM
The law on flogging children is a welcome development especially in a country like Nigeria where there has been gross violation of children's rights. While noone is suggesting that kids should not be reprimanded when they are wrong, flogging them as if they are animals is not only inhuman but has the potential of leaving a lasting  psychological scar on them.

The truth is, there are better ways of correcting a child which cannot be equated to brutality. These methods are proven to be effective in achieving the desired results while not presenting the problem of alienation which the former (Flogging) may likely engender  in the future.

My parents never once flogged us, yet we were alway careful not to offend them because there were consequences for bad behaviour and we cherished so much the love which they provided. So, the fact is, even without deploying this outdated method of flogging we have all turned out well in my opinion. Perhaps am a little stubborn but this is not in anyway negative- indeed it is positive, as this stubborness has reflected in the resolute way in which i have pursued many of my aspirations.

Story my sister, that is for you. There are some kids that needs real iron hand otherwise they will go astray and that is what most parent try to avoid.

Ha ha hahaha. Spare the rod and spoil the child is no new saying. There are some things that have immediate consequences. Like when a child puts his hands in the fire, he gets burnt and learn not to ever do that.

Let me tell you a short story of some naughty friends I had in primary school. Somewhere in the middle belt. There was this lovely school with lovely students. On the wide untarred road that led to this school, there was this hollow dead tree trunk. The hollow of this beautiful tree was filled with honey. Some bees called the tree trunk home. And somewhere in that sweet trunk rested their cherished 
queen. They constantly attended to her and made sure she was protected and fat. Ha hahahahahahah. They had every right to be in that tree trunk cause our mother 'nature' said so.

After the last bell for the day had been rung one normal day. I and some of my fearless friends departed for home. Hurried we did, cause, the enzymes in our tummies had turned acidic. I longed for my afternoon plate of rice and the subsequent piece of meat that would crown it. I can not really remember if the precursor to the diabolic event was an argument that questioned our marksmanship. I do know that my fearless friends picked up stones and started aiming at the door of the hollow of the sweet trunk.

A few stones did disturb the bees fat queen. They didn't like it. Out they came in their entirety, singing songs of war and looking for their foe. As is mostly the case, spark match stick is not in the fire. Unawares boys and girls gallivanting home from school ran into those angry soldiers. Stung they were repeatedly. Glee it was for some of us that some teachers got stung. Ha ah ahahah.

To cut the long story short. The next morning at the assembly ground, names were called and my fearless friends had to prove their fearlessness. More so that the weapon of correction was the Headmaster's cherished wire 'koboko'. Ha ah ahahah. The ground wouldn't open, and mountains wouldn't fall on my friends. The strokes they had to collect in front of the assembly. Some were seers and wore cut jeans under their shorts. Some were like the 5 brides and were not prepared. The strokes were dished and one had his shorts falling. He was left in his underpants. Wicked as the headmaster was, he cared not for the young man's pride. The wires kept cutting the air to find the bum-bum. Ha hahah ahah.

What was the point. The point of the place of punishment being the assembly was to warn other students of such demeanor. The point of flogging the students was to teach them to be considerate in all their actions. It was to teach them to always let sleeping dogs lie.

Wunzie, you know how boys are. If those boys were not flogged, if they find another bee hive, would they not throw stones at it? Did they not deserve flogging? Cause many pupils were stung and some teachers were stung too. It would have been cool if only the teachers got stung. But, some of our friends got stung also.

Ever read the 'Adventures of Souza'?

For now, the African child should be flogged when he messes up.

Wunzie, there is colleague that does me 'waka' sometimes. She is 28. Have been correcting her. And her told her that it is like she wasn't flogged as a kid. She said yes. She said her mother didn't let anybody flog her. She is lucky. Very lucky. For if she does the wrong Nigerian 'waka' they could hex her hand. And who would want to put a ring on a hexed hand? Even now, the 'Waka' is the reason I aint considering her hand for a ring. Cause, you never know when she will do your Mama or Papa or Brother or Friend 'Waka'. In case u do not no what I mean by 'Waka' it is that expression that is done by spreading your five fingers out till your palms are taut and pointing your palms at the insulted. Ha ah ahahhaha.

Wunzie, you do have a point about better ways to correct children. However, man's heart is evil and stripes purge the heart of evil. So says King Solomon and he is wiser than you, your parents and the lawmakers. Moreover, I would say your Father never flogged you cause, you did commit something really deserving of flogging. You for try go steal from another person house. If u tried that and your father didn't then he is very lucky he hasn't buried you.

Sorry, my hands are like electrified. I guess it is this George Benson playing in the background. Hmn! I walked down memory lane today. I know what you are thinking. I wasn't one of the boys that were flogged.

I just saw a frog. In my office? Ironically, I have picked up some computer power cable. I am killing that thing. Make I kill am before e run. Is this some joke?


The second strike got it. Can  you imagine. It is dead now. I not on the first floor. How did that thing get upstairs? How? To close this discussion, If had a child and he was the one that brought it up, I will definitely flog him. What if it gives him or me or somebody else some disease? Whose money will be spent? And what if the disease is not curable?

Wunzie, flog your children if they go to extremes. It could save them from death.

No proof-reading. Have to get rid of some frog. That involves going downstairs. That also involves the not pleasant action of putting it in some poly-ethane. Hmn. Wonders will never end. Wonders will never end. How did that thing get upstairs? In a room with printers and computer boxes everywhere? This room is suppose to be sealed. This room is sealed.

I must get to the bottom of this. Na JAZZ? ehn?


You guys have made me evening. I love typing. What if that frog rot right now? That would be the freakest encounter in a long time.





Agabs, too often the biblical phrase "spare the rod and spoil the child" is used to justify the brutalisation of children that is sometimes equated to "proper training".  No doubt, firmness and reprimand are important components of training a child appropriately.  However, am unable to understand how this is translated to mean that flogging a child helplessly and inflicting scars is the only way to enforce discipline. This is even more important in view of the fact that there is no evidence that children who have been constantly flogged have turned out to be better adults than their peers that have not been subjected to such brutality.

In my opinion, the practice of using kobokobo is a sad mirror of how the Fulani herdsman seeks to control the cows in his care.  Parents should strife to rise above this somewhat barbaric and outdated method of ensuring good behaviour. There's reason to believe that handling children in this manner can even instigate rebellious tendencies in them.  I think am in a position to say this  because when i was in the boarding school, i had friends who became more rebellious on account of this kind of treatment.  The phrase often used to be " ko je pa lo" meaning "e nor pass cane"

Agabs, i pray i would not have any reason to resort to flogging any of my children when that time comes.  As regards to your WAKA girlfriend, i can't believe you have refused to put a ring on her finger simply because she does WAKA......lol.  How on earth can that be related to flogging or the absence of it?

Posted: at 10-07-2010 11:36 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Andycaptain at 11-07-2010 08:46 AM (13 years ago)
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Rubbish. But why must we always follow oyibo yeye life? Can't we ever be creative? Even oyibo self are allowed to beat their kids but leave no bruises, so tell the lawmakers to get it right.
Posted: at 11-07-2010 08:46 AM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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- zahrah at 11-07-2010 01:31 PM (13 years ago)
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LOLZ!IT WILL BE GOOD O.BUT FOR WHERE?LAZGIDDY NKO?WHERE IYA TEMI WILL HOLD THE BIG STICK BEHIND WEEPING TEMI AS THEY WALK TO SKUL COS TEMI SAID SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GO?OR CHIDI WHO POURED HIS MOTHER'S GRINDED TOMATOES ON THE WAY COS HE WAS ABSENTMINDED?LOOK, WE HAVE TO CORRECT GREATER ISSUES FIRST,THIS IS GOOD NO DISPUTE BUT A PARENT WHO HASN'T A JOB OR STEADY ONE IS AN ANGRY ONE AND IN THE INSTANCE HE FLOGS HIS CHILD FOR BEING NAUGHTY,YOU THROW HIM OR HER IN JAIL?TRUST NAIJA POLICE NOW Lips Sealed.THEN WHO WILL CATER FOR THE CHILD OR CHILDREN AFTER?NAIJA PEOPLE LETS THINK DEEP BEFORE IMPLEMENTING THINGS.AND WHO SAYS THE SO CALLED WHYTS DONT HIT THEIR KIDS?AFRICANS STOP LETTING YOURSELVES BE DECEIVED ABEG!
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- agabs at 12-07-2010 10:20 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: wunzie on 10-07-2010 11:36 PM
Quote from: agabs on 10-07-2010 09:32 PM
Quote from: ammyjane on  9-07-2010 07:37 AM
Quote from: wunzie on  9-07-2010 12:26 AM
The law on flogging children is a welcome development especially in a country like Nigeria where there has been gross violation of children's rights. While noone is suggesting that kids should not be reprimanded when they are wrong, flogging them as if they are animals is not only inhuman but has the potential of leaving a lasting  psychological scar on them.

The truth is, there are better ways of correcting a child which cannot be equated to brutality. These methods are proven to be effective in achieving the desired results while not presenting the problem of alienation which the former (Flogging) may likely engender  in the future.

My parents never once flogged us, yet we were alway careful not to offend them because there were consequences for bad behaviour and we cherished so much the love which they provided. So, the fact is, even without deploying this outdated method of flogging we have all turned out well in my opinion. Perhaps am a little stubborn but this is not in anyway negative- indeed it is positive, as this stubborness has reflected in the resolute way in which i have pursued many of my aspirations.

Story my sister, that is for you. There are some kids that needs real iron hand otherwise they will go astray and that is what most parent try to avoid.

Ha ha hahaha. Spare the rod and spoil the child is no new saying. There are some things that have immediate consequences. Like when a child puts his hands in the fire, he gets burnt and learn not to ever do that.


Wunzie, there is colleague that does me 'waka' sometimes. She is 28. Have been correcting her. And her told her that it is like she wasn't flogged as a kid. She said yes. She said her mother didn't let anybody flog her. She is lucky. Very lucky. For if she does the wrong Nigerian 'waka' they could hex her hand. And who would want to put a ring on a hexed hand? Even now, the 'Waka' is the reason I aint considering her hand for a ring. Cause, you never know when she will do your Mama or Papa or Brother or Friend 'Waka'. In case u do not no what I mean by 'Waka' it is that expression that is done by spreading your five fingers out till your palms are taut and pointing your palms at the insulted. Ha ah ahahhaha.

Wunzie, you do have a point about better ways to correct children. However, man's heart is evil and stripes purge the heart of evil. So says King Solomon and he is wiser than you, your parents and the lawmakers. Moreover, I would say your Father never flogged you cause, you did commit something really deserving of flogging. You for try go steal from another person house. If u tried that and your father didn't then he is very lucky he hasn't buried you.

Sorry, my hands are like electrified. I guess it is this George Benson playing in the background. Hmn! I walked down memory lane today. I know what you are thinking. I wasn't one of the boys that were flogged.

I just saw a frog. In my office? Ironically, I have picked up some computer power cable. I am killing that thing. Make I kill am before e run. Is this some joke?


The second strike got it. Can  you imagine. It is dead now. I not on the first floor. How did that thing get upstairs? How? To close this discussion, If had a child and he was the one that brought it up, I will definitely flog him. What if it gives him or me or somebody else some disease? Whose money will be spent? And what if the disease is not curable?

Wunzie, flog your children if they go to extremes. It could save them from death.

No proof-reading. Have to get rid of some frog. That involves going downstairs. That also involves the not pleasant action of putting it in some poly-ethane. Hmn. Wonders will never end. Wonders will never end. How did that thing get upstairs? In a room with printers and computer boxes everywhere? This room is suppose to be sealed. This room is sealed.

I must get to the bottom of this. Na JAZZ? ehn?


You guys have made me evening. I love typing. What if that frog rot right now? That would be the freakest encounter in a long time.





Agabs, too often the biblical phrase "spare the rod and spoil the child" is used to justify the brutalisation of children that is sometimes equated to "proper training".  No doubt, firmness and reprimand are important components of training a child appropriately.  However, am unable to understand how this is translated to mean that flogging a child helplessly and inflicting scars is the only way to enforce discipline. This is even more important in view of the fact that there is no evidence that children who have been constantly flogged have turned out to be better adults than their peers that have not been subjected to such brutality.

In my opinion, the practice of using kobokobo is a sad mirror of how the Fulani herdsman seeks to control the cows in his care.  Parents should strife to rise above this somewhat barbaric and outdated method of ensuring good behaviour. There's reason to believe that handling children in this manner can even instigate rebellious tendencies in them.  I think am in a position to say this  because when i was in the boarding school, i had friends who became more rebellious on account of this kind of treatment.  The phrase often used to be " ko je pa lo" meaning "e nor pass cane"

Agabs, i pray i would not have any reason to resort to flogging any of my children when that time comes.  As regards to your WAKA girlfriend, i can't believe you have refused to put a ring on her finger simply because she does WAKA......lol.  How on earth can that be related to flogging or the absence of it?

Using koboko is a sad mirror of how the Fulani herdsman seeks to control the cows in his care. True? Maybe.
Never the less some misdemeanor deserves flogging. Not everything deserves flogging.

I do know some humans out there are barbaric. Flogging children often make them naturally become rebellious. It is true. It also instills tendencies for violence outbursts in them. It may show up in em relationships with em spouses in the future too.

Nothing is promised.

As for my so called 'Waka' girlfriend. She is just a colleague. And cause of the 'Waka' she will always stay colleague or friend but never beyond that. Me sees 'Waka' as a symptom of rebelliousness, disobedience, lack of restrain and some other unknowns. I also see the 'Waka' as a symptom of innocence too. And that is a good thing. But, you know that it is more than just the 'waka' though the 'waka' is a very big minus. Nowadays, when she wants to raise her hands instinctively, I look at her and tell her to go on? And she drops her hands. Ha ah ahahah. Humanity, beautiful and ugly at the-same time. Ha hah ahahaha.

@Wunzie, your question, 'How on earth can that be related to flogging or the absence of it?'
You must be kidding me. Seriously, you are kidding me. Ha hah ahaah.
In my days, if you insult your senior 'Waka', the senior will flog you. If you do that in your mothers presence, she will flog you. You know why, cause you are putting yourself in danger and you are disgracing her. You know what scares me the most about the 'Waka' girl? It is that, I think she will pass on some of her attitude to her offspring. Cause I doubt she will ever let well wishers or her husband correct her daughters or sons. That is scary, isn't it? Is that not scary? Kids doing their father 'Waka' cause their mother wouldn't let him flog them. Tu fia! Chineke! God forbid. God forbid!

 
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- dally007 at 12-07-2010 07:32 PM (13 years ago)
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Ithink Lagos state govt is trying to create panic in the minds of parents.
And at the same time permit the kids to jail their parents.
Posted: at 12-07-2010 07:32 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Enockia at 12-07-2010 08:29 PM (13 years ago)
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i here

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- wunzie at 12-07-2010 10:53 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on 12-07-2010 10:20 AM
Quote from: wunzie on 10-07-2010 11:36 PM
Quote from: agabs on 10-07-2010 09:32 PM
Quote from: ammyjane on  9-07-2010 07:37 AM
Quote from: wunzie on  9-07-2010 12:26 AM
The law on flogging children is a welcome development especially in a country like Nigeria where there has been gross violation of children's rights. While noone is suggesting that kids should not be reprimanded when they are wrong, flogging them as if they are animals is not only inhuman but has the potential of leaving a lasting  psychological scar on them.

The truth is, there are better ways of correcting a child which cannot be equated to brutality. These methods are proven to be effective in achieving the desired results while not presenting the problem of alienation which the former (Flogging) may likely engender  in the future.

My parents never once flogged us, yet we were alway careful not to offend them because there were consequences for bad behaviour and we cherished so much the love which they provided. So, the fact is, even without deploying this outdated method of flogging we have all turned out well in my opinion. Perhaps am a little stubborn but this is not in anyway negative- indeed it is positive, as this stubborness has reflected in the resolute way in which i have pursued many of my aspirations.

Story my sister, that is for you. There are some kids that needs real iron hand otherwise they will go astray and that is what most parent try to avoid.

Ha ha hahaha. Spare the rod and spoil the child is no new saying. There are some things that have immediate consequences. Like when a child puts his hands in the fire, he gets burnt and learn not to ever do that.


Wunzie, there is colleague that does me 'waka' sometimes. She is 28. Have been correcting her. And her told her that it is like she wasn't flogged as a kid. She said yes. She said her mother didn't let anybody flog her. She is lucky. Very lucky. For if she does the wrong Nigerian 'waka' they could hex her hand. And who would want to put a ring on a hexed hand? Even now, the 'Waka' is the reason I aint considering her hand for a ring. Cause, you never know when she will do your Mama or Papa or Brother or Friend 'Waka'. In case u do not no what I mean by 'Waka' it is that expression that is done by spreading your five fingers out till your palms are taut and pointing your palms at the insulted. Ha ah ahahhaha.

Wunzie, you do have a point about better ways to correct children. However, man's heart is evil and stripes purge the heart of evil. So says King Solomon and he is wiser than you, your parents and the lawmakers. Moreover, I would say your Father never flogged you cause, you did commit something really deserving of flogging. You for try go steal from another person house. If u tried that and your father didn't then he is very lucky he hasn't buried you.

Sorry, my hands are like electrified. I guess it is this George Benson playing in the background. Hmn! I walked down memory lane today. I know what you are thinking. I wasn't one of the boys that were flogged.

I just saw a frog. In my office? Ironically, I have picked up some computer power cable. I am killing that thing. Make I kill am before e run. Is this some joke?


The second strike got it. Can  you imagine. It is dead now. I not on the first floor. How did that thing get upstairs? How? To close this discussion, If had a child and he was the one that brought it up, I will definitely flog him. What if it gives him or me or somebody else some disease? Whose money will be spent? And what if the disease is not curable?

Wunzie, flog your children if they go to extremes. It could save them from death.

No proof-reading. Have to get rid of some frog. That involves going downstairs. That also involves the not pleasant action of putting it in some poly-ethane. Hmn. Wonders will never end. Wonders will never end. How did that thing get upstairs? In a room with printers and computer boxes everywhere? This room is suppose to be sealed. This room is sealed.

I must get to the bottom of this. Na JAZZ? ehn?


You guys have made me evening. I love typing. What if that frog rot right now? That would be the freakest encounter in a long time.





Agabs, too often the biblical phrase "spare the rod and spoil the child" is used to justify the brutalisation of children that is sometimes equated to "proper training".  No doubt, firmness and reprimand are important components of training a child appropriately.  However, am unable to understand how this is translated to mean that flogging a child helplessly and inflicting scars is the only way to enforce discipline. This is even more important in view of the fact that there is no evidence that children who have been constantly flogged have turned out to be better adults than their peers that have not been subjected to such brutality.

In my opinion, the practice of using kobokobo is a sad mirror of how the Fulani herdsman seeks to control the cows in his care.  Parents should strife to rise above this somewhat barbaric and outdated method of ensuring good behaviour. There's reason to believe that handling children in this manner can even instigate rebellious tendencies in them.  I think am in a position to say this  because when i was in the boarding school, i had friends who became more rebellious on account of this kind of treatment.  The phrase often used to be " ko je pa lo" meaning "e nor pass cane"

Agabs, i pray i would not have any reason to resort to flogging any of my children when that time comes.  As regards to your WAKA girlfriend, i can't believe you have refused to put a ring on her finger simply because she does WAKA......lol.  How on earth can that be related to flogging or the absence of it?

Using koboko is a sad mirror of how the Fulani herdsman seeks to control the cows in his care. True? Maybe.
Never the less some misdemeanor deserves flogging. Not everything deserves flogging.

I do know some humans out there are barbaric. Flogging children often make them naturally become rebellious. It is true. It also instills tendencies for violence outbursts in them. It may show up in em relationships with em spouses in the future too.

Nothing is promised.

As for my so called 'Waka' girlfriend. She is just a colleague. And cause of the 'Waka' she will always stay colleague or friend but never beyond that. Me sees 'Waka' as a symptom of rebelliousness, disobedience, lack of restrain and some other unknowns. I also see the 'Waka' as a symptom of innocence too. And that is a good thing. But, you know that it is more than just the 'waka' though the 'waka' is a very big minus. Nowadays, when she wants to raise her hands instinctively, I look at her and tell her to go on? And she drops her hands. Ha ah ahahah. Humanity, beautiful and ugly at the-same time. Ha hah ahahaha.

@Wunzie, your question, 'How on earth can that be related to flogging or the absence of it?'
You must be kidding me. Seriously, you are kidding me. Ha hah ahaah.
In my days, if you insult your senior 'Waka', the senior will flog you. If you do that in your mothers presence, she will flog you. You know why, cause you are putting yourself in danger and you are disgracing her. You know what scares me the most about the 'Waka' girl? It is that, I think she will pass on some of her attitude to her offspring. Cause I doubt she will ever let well wishers or her husband correct her daughters or sons. That is scary, isn't it? Is that not scary? Kids doing their father 'Waka' cause their mother wouldn't let him flog them. Tu fia! Chineke! God forbid. God forbid!

 





Me i nor know say "waka" dey that bad until now.....lol.

Posted: at 12-07-2010 10:53 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- solid_solid at 14-07-2010 04:50 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: wunzie on 12-07-2010 10:53 PM
Quote from: agabs on 12-07-2010 10:20 AM
Quote from: wunzie on 10-07-2010 11:36 PM
Quote from: agabs on 10-07-2010 09:32 PM
Quote from: ammyjane on  9-07-2010 07:37 AM
Quote from: wunzie on  9-07-2010 12:26 AM
The law on flogging children is a welcome development especially in a country like Nigeria where there has been gross violation of children's rights. While noone is suggesting that kids should not be reprimanded when they are wrong, flogging them as if they are animals is not only inhuman but has the potential of leaving a lasting  psychological scar on them.

The truth is, there are better ways of correcting a child which cannot be equated to brutality. These methods are proven to be effective in achieving the desired results while not presenting the problem of alienation which the former (Flogging) may likely engender  in the future.

My parents never once flogged us, yet we were alway careful not to offend them because there were consequences for bad behaviour and we cherished so much the love which they provided. So, the fact is, even without deploying this outdated method of flogging we have all turned out well in my opinion. Perhaps am a little stubborn but this is not in anyway negative- indeed it is positive, as this stubborness has reflected in the resolute way in which i have pursued many of my aspirations.

Story my sister, that is for you. There are some kids that needs real iron hand otherwise they will go astray and that is what most parent try to avoid.

Ha ha hahaha. Spare the rod and spoil the child is no new saying. There are some things that have immediate consequences. Like when a child puts his hands in the fire, he gets burnt and learn not to ever do that.


Wunzie, there is colleague that does me 'waka' sometimes. She is 28. Have been correcting her. And her told her that it is like she wasn't flogged as a kid. She said yes. She said her mother didn't let anybody flog her. She is lucky. Very lucky. For if she does the wrong Nigerian 'waka' they could hex her hand. And who would want to put a ring on a hexed hand? Even now, the 'Waka' is the reason I aint considering her hand for a ring. Cause, you never know when she will do your Mama or Papa or Brother or Friend 'Waka'. In case u do not no what I mean by 'Waka' it is that expression that is done by spreading your five fingers out till your palms are taut and pointing your palms at the insulted. Ha ah ahahhaha.

Wunzie, you do have a point about better ways to correct children. However, man's heart is evil and stripes purge the heart of evil. So says King Solomon and he is wiser than you, your parents and the lawmakers. Moreover, I would say your Father never flogged you cause, you did commit something really deserving of flogging. You for try go steal from another person house. If u tried that and your father didn't then he is very lucky he hasn't buried you.

Sorry, my hands are like electrified. I guess it is this George Benson playing in the background. Hmn! I walked down memory lane today. I know what you are thinking. I wasn't one of the boys that were flogged.

I just saw a frog. In my office? Ironically, I have picked up some computer power cable. I am killing that thing. Make I kill am before e run. Is this some joke?


The second strike got it. Can  you imagine. It is dead now. I not on the first floor. How did that thing get upstairs? How? To close this discussion, If had a child and he was the one that brought it up, I will definitely flog him. What if it gives him or me or somebody else some disease? Whose money will be spent? And what if the disease is not curable?

Wunzie, flog your children if they go to extremes. It could save them from death.

No proof-reading. Have to get rid of some frog. That involves going downstairs. That also involves the not pleasant action of putting it in some poly-ethane. Hmn. Wonders will never end. Wonders will never end. How did that thing get upstairs? In a room with printers and computer boxes everywhere? This room is suppose to be sealed. This room is sealed.

I must get to the bottom of this. Na JAZZ? ehn?


You guys have made me evening. I love typing. What if that frog rot right now? That would be the freakest encounter in a long time.





Agabs, too often the biblical phrase "spare the rod and spoil the child" is used to justify the brutalisation of children that is sometimes equated to "proper training".  No doubt, firmness and reprimand are important components of training a child appropriately.  However, am unable to understand how this is translated to mean that flogging a child helplessly and inflicting scars is the only way to enforce discipline. This is even more important in view of the fact that there is no evidence that children who have been constantly flogged have turned out to be better adults than their peers that have not been subjected to such brutality.

In my opinion, the practice of using kobokobo is a sad mirror of how the Fulani herdsman seeks to control the cows in his care.  Parents should strife to rise above this somewhat barbaric and outdated method of ensuring good behaviour. There's reason to believe that handling children in this manner can even instigate rebellious tendencies in them.  I think am in a position to say this  because when i was in the boarding school, i had friends who became more rebellious on account of this kind of treatment.  The phrase often used to be " ko je pa lo" meaning "e nor pass cane"

Agabs, i pray i would not have any reason to resort to flogging any of my children when that time comes.  As regards to your WAKA girlfriend, i can't believe you have refused to put a ring on her finger simply because she does WAKA......lol.  How on earth can that be related to flogging or the absence of it?

Using koboko is a sad mirror of how the Fulani herdsman seeks to control the cows in his care. True? Maybe.
Never the less some misdemeanor deserves flogging. Not everything deserves flogging.

I do know some humans out there are barbaric. Flogging children often make them naturally become rebellious. It is true. It also instills tendencies for violence outbursts in them. It may show up in em relationships with em spouses in the future too.

Nothing is promised.

As for my so called 'Waka' girlfriend. She is just a colleague. And cause of the 'Waka' she will always stay colleague or friend but never beyond that. Me sees 'Waka' as a symptom of rebelliousness, disobedience, lack of restrain and some other unknowns. I also see the 'Waka' as a symptom of innocence too. And that is a good thing. But, you know that it is more than just the 'waka' though the 'waka' is a very big minus. Nowadays, when she wants to raise her hands instinctively, I look at her and tell her to go on? And she drops her hands. Ha ah ahahah. Humanity, beautiful and ugly at the-same time. Ha hah ahahaha.

@Wunzie, your question, 'How on earth can that be related to flogging or the absence of it?'
You must be kidding me. Seriously, you are kidding me. Ha hah ahaah.
In my days, if you insult your senior 'Waka', the senior will flog you. If you do that in your mothers presence, she will flog you. You know why, cause you are putting yourself in danger and you are disgracing her. You know what scares me the most about the 'Waka' girl? It is that, I think she will pass on some of her attitude to her offspring. Cause I doubt she will ever let well wishers or her husband correct her daughters or sons. That is scary, isn't it? Is that not scary? Kids doing their father 'Waka' cause their mother wouldn't let him flog them. Tu fia! Chineke! God forbid. God forbid!

 





Me i nor know say "waka" dey that bad until now.....lol.

ME TOO
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- BACiiO at 18-07-2010 05:28 PM (13 years ago)
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