Biblical teaching that Christians fail to put into practise (Page 3)

Date: 26-08-2010 12:57 pm (11 years ago) | Author: Abdulrahman Abdulnasir
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- chik001 at 1-10-2010 04:14 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on 30-09-2010 05:34 PM
Abdul said there are bible teachings which you christians are not putting in practice and he is right. Oh! Do you deny it? You people are not following the steps of Jesus Christ the son of Mary. You are only following your selfish interests.

Most times I believe you are a joke and a great contradiction. The Muslim Religion came after Christianity and are claiming to be a better religion.
...Now tell me about the Ahmadiyah; and why they breakaway from the main stream Islam?

And what makes you think all Muslims are practising what Muhammed taught in the Koran? I have lived in seven Muslim countries and have see Muslims who are drunks and their women are prostitutes to western tourists and their men visit Nigerian prostitutes and homosexuals.
They only thing you guys like and appreciate so much on being a good Muslim is marrying four wives at a point.

Nna...Candanre, cool down, you, I and your sidekicks knows you are like a peck of dust compare to The Almighty Christianity. Attacks on Christianity did not start and will never end with you and your sideckicks, but one thing Jesus The Christ said is certain...

...upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it' (Matthew 16: 18)

So. let all the pastors become homosexuals and impregnate all their members including my wife and daughter; let them all join the Muslim faith or become atheist. The Almighty God whom is the base of our faith  - Christianity - will always balance the equation.
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- cadanre at 1-10-2010 03:58 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on 16-09-2010 07:47 PM
One thing you failed to understand, although I told you about it is that Jesus have never died on the cross. That is your assumption and that is what makes you worship the man on the cross. The Jesus you believe it is not the one we believed in. You believed on the dead Jesus and we believed in the living one. The bible you are using is full of fallacies, mistakes, contradictions and alterations, I told you this earlier, you ought to understand it better.

You believed in trinity which could never be found in the bible. I know that all Christians believed in it. How can you believe in something non existent in your holy book and that Jesus have never proved it to be existing?

Compare the oneness of Allah and the heavenly arithmetic which says that three is one and if one was removed the number remains one and if one is added to the two, it still remains one.

Allah (God) is one: Suratul Ikhlas (112:1). He begot not.....: Suratul Ikhlas (112:3). Give me a quote where Bible says Gods are three. I am waiting!



Yes!!! very Good.. Ask them To Give us the Proofs.
I am also waiting.......


For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.
 - Stuart Chase
The issue of those that believe or not Believe  is not necessary here since We all believe that God exist. Unless if you are among those that says God did not exist. I believe u are not among them. All what we are saying, we want you to give us the proof of what u said about trinity.Also you cannot say no proof is possible, unless if you know that your point has no biblical reason.

We are still waiting..

In case you did not understand what I said in my last post, I will repeat:
For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.
 - Stuart Chase
...So, I am not going to waste my time to proof anything to you. Any discussion between us, as I've always said; will sound like where an Ifa priest is arguing with a scientist.
I discuss to make a point, you can choose to agree or not. If you insist I will explain to you what the TRINITY mean to WE CHRISTIANS. your call... Cool
No wonder, that is how  Christians are. If they Don't have any point to back up their saying, they will just initiate fight to disrupt everything. 

Your very interesting...
Who is initiating a fight, My Christianity is based on conviction. Our problem here is the understanding of the language but let me explain your position as if you don't know;

...I am not a Muslim, and I don't want to and will never be a Muslim come rain come shine. But go ahead and proof to me that it was Allah who gave Mohammed the Koran and not Satan according to the Satanic Verses.



Iam a Muslim I pray to God for me  to Die as a Muslim and to never be in any religion beside Islam. No need For me to Go Ahead to tell you About Muhammad and the Qur'an,Since your mind was o ready deceived and is in darkness. I will not call the verses of Bible as a Satanic As you call ours .This is Because Islam did not allow me to insult someones Religion but to tell the truth. But Since You are the one that Mention the word "Satanic Verses" i will suggest that you go and compere the two books and see which one is Satanic.  Go to Google and type Muhammad(Pbuh) and see who is he and where he comes from? We Muslim are not Worshiping Muhammad as you do For Jesus cries. We regard him as a Messenger of ALLAH(GOD) as all other Messengers including Jesus the Son of Mery. Remember am a Muslim and Will die in Islam Insha Allah. Hold your Religion, I will Hold mine and we will see in the Last Day WHO IS WHO..

You see what I mean ,  we seem to be having slight misunderstanding on the language.
I am not calling The Koran satanic verses (although there is a book on it as satanic verses),  but am trying to tell you that;
as a Muslim, you will not understand or believe anything I say about trinity.

I asked you for a proof that Muhammed is handed the Koran by Allah to make a point.
 Telling me that Allah gave Muhammed the Koran ,for me it sound like a man who dreamt and saw an angel; what proof is that?

You wanted me to proof the trinity, and I said " no matter what I say, you will never believe", only if you have faith.
You and everyone who truly knows what they are worshipping will have to know that; It takes faith to believe before knowing any religion.


chik0000000001 I we are not what you think and as such, there is no way you can fool us. You can only make a fool out of yourself. Whether you directly tell me or not, you already bear in your mind what you said indirectly. QUR'AN IS SATANIC VERSE. There is no way you can deny saying it.

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- cadanre at 1-10-2010 04:10 PM (10 years ago)
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@ chik001

Well! I have never, neither any of my Muslims brothers here on NP declares that no Muslism commit crimes against God. What we have been saying is that by looking at the life of Muslims of today, we are clearly copying/practicing the type of life that the Prophet of Islam Muhammad (SAW) lived. In contrary, christians lives are in sharp contrast with jesus's own.

Besides, go through the NP and count for me the posts on PASTORS molesting, GAY PASTORS. If you have any link where Imams, Sheikhs are involved in sex scandals, homosexuality, fraud, etc and the Muslims of that community still recognises that Imam, Sheikh or whoever, please let us know about it. In Islam, when you diviate from the righ way, we take away ourselves from you direction. We try as much as possible to face God with good deeds.

Tell me in Nigeria, how many imams were cauth molesting, having homosexuality, defrauding their followers? Tell me chik!!!!!!


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- cadanre at 1-10-2010 04:14 PM (10 years ago)
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THE REVELATION OF THE HOLY QUR'AN

Well before God's revelation marked him as a Prophet, Mohammad had rejected the religion of Arabia. This religion called on the worship of several gods, and Mohammad felt that these idols were not responsible for life or creation. Questioning the religion that he was born into, Mohammad found peace in reflection, meditation, and contemplation; however, these acts of private worship did not give Mohammad the answers that he was searching for. In his late thirties Mohammad began a practice of retirement, where he would seclude himself from his family and relations and spend several days in a cave on top of a mountain two miles outside of Makkah. He continued this for many years: during the month of Ramadan, Mohammad would often spend the entire month in seclusion, for some instinct must have told him that in this holiest month he would find the answers to his questions. So, it was in his fortieth year that Mohammad received the revelation from God.

While engaged in worship in a corner of the cave of Hira in the heart of the night, the orphan son of Abdullah who had never studied or attended a school, was suddenly shaken by the summons, "O Muhammad!" followed by the command to recite, this being the beginning of revelation. A wave arose from the limitless ocean of Divinity, rent the Bosom  of the Prophet, bewildered and anxious, and filled to the brim the cup of his spirit.

Mohammad was shocked and afraid. How could there be another voice in the cave when he was all alone? Nevertheless, he replied: "I am not one of those who can read". After his answer, he was taken up, and violently hugged and then set free: the voice repeated, "Read". Mohammad could only give the same answer: "I am not one of those who can read". The being repeated the same action, hugging him again. Once again it commanded him to "Read". This time Mohammad gave a different answer: he said, "What shall I read?", and the voice said:

Read! In the Name of your Lord, who has created you! He created man from a clot of blood. Read, and your Lord is the Most Gracious, He who has taught by the pen, Taught man what he did not know. [Quran: 96:1-4]
The shining of a light from the realm of the unseen covered and enveloped his being and shone forth on his fair features, giving rise to new and bright life in the darkness of the night. Then, with a painful tumult in his heart and bearing on his shoulders the heaviest responsibility conceivable, he set out for home from the cave of Hira, destined to become the teacher of all human beings and to assume the leadership of humanity on its long march forward.

What force was it that had disquieted him despite his infinite patience, made him anxious despite all his tranquil courage, and plunged his whole being into painful turmoil? Thereafter the envoy of revelation came repeatedly, reciting verses to him, profound and astounding verses that bore no resemblance from the point of view of style and content either to the words of the Prophet himself, eloquent as they were, or to the conventional prose and poetry of the age.

Although the Arabs of the Age of Ignorance knew neither how to read nor how to write and had no historians, philosophers or scholars, they were famed for the excellence of their poetry and the eloquence of their speech. The Prophet, however, had never participated before the beginning of his mission in the cultivation of the arts of poetry and eloquence.

His conduct, on the one hand, and the verses of the Quran, on the other, both testify that he made no compromises in conveying his message. He conveyed the message that he had been ordered to deliver clearly, unambiguously and in utter contradiction both with the beliefs and inclinations of the people and with his own immediate interests. He loudly proclaimed the revelation he had received to the evil and the ignorant, to a people made degenerate and corrupt by the worship of the idols they had fashioned themselves, and he informed them that their sole salvation lay in the worship of the One God.

The new factor that appeared at a particular time in the life of the Prophet and caused him to engage in unprecedented forms of activity was the wondrous phenomenon of revelation, the heavenly message which he as the most lofty and qualified of men had been chosen to receive. Before then, no preliminary effort or particular inclination had been seen on his part that might have led to the bringing about of the sudden and remarkable transformation of the world he was now about to accomplish.

The factor that had this profound effect on Muhammad, that changed that quiet and reflective man into an explosive source of revolutionary energy and enabled him to bring about such a profound transformation of humanity, from within the intense darkness of the Arabs' Age of Ignorance, was nothing other than revelation. It was a call that penetrated the very depths of the souls of human beings that melted the marrow of their bones, and directed all their strivings to the attainment of perfection.

The command of revelation negated all the false and lying criteria which human beings had regarded as the measure of goodness and considered the sole means of evaluating human characteristics and habits, while, in fact, clothing falsehood in the garment of truth. It brought into operation new and clear criteria which showed human beings the goals to which they should strive to advance and brought about creativity in their lives. The veil of ignorance and silence was torn apart, the human beings' energies were set to work, the power of thought within them was aroused, and their spirits were borne aloft toward the infinite summit of being.
A people who in their ignorance and lowliness would tear each apart on account of the most insignificant things and had lost all virtue, thanks to their various forms of enslavement, now became, through Islam and its great concept of monotheism - the true pillar of humanity and the breaker of idols - so elevated of spirit and so self-sacrificing that they happily abandoned both their lives and their property. The remarkable stories of self-sacrifice on the part of those early Muslims will stand eternally as examples of true nobility.

The Prophet of Islam had the vision and belief of a world leader, but he began to proclaim his Divine summons to monotheism in a relatively restricted sphere, a closed environment where tribal institutions exercised great influence and idols were counted as the most sacred and beloved of objects. It was an environment that was not in any way prepared to accept the message of Divine unity.
The heavenly teachings of Islam and the culture to which they gave rise were superior not only to the intellectual atmosphere prevailing in the idolatrous society of the Arabs but also to all the religious doctrines and cultures of that age.

The program for reforming systems of thought and culture that had become corrupt was laid down by a man who had never studied, who was unlettered, and who knew nothing of the religious books or the civilization of his age.
At first he invited his relatives to worship the Creator, and then the people of Mecca and the Arabian Peninsula. Finally he proclaimed to the entire world his mission as the last of the Prophets.

The Prophet had been born into an environment where human beings engaged in empty boasting out of their shortsightedness and tribal mentality, where privileges were based on unjust social conditions and prejudices. Now he arose and swept aside all those false privileges. He established new values and concepts with respect to labor, life and social relations, in the framework of a series of rules and ordinances, and strove to concentrate all the goals and thoughts of the human being on a program for liberating peoples from slavery, and delivering the oppressed from the tyranny of emperors and kings. Even for those who do not regard these exalted aims as having a heavenly origin will admit that they are among the most exalted and previous values observable in human history.
What is significant about the Revelation, the Message of God, is that it was an act for which the Prophet (pbuh) was ready. Meaning, that he had already forsaken the beliefs of his people and his culture. Mohammad (pbuh) had proved himself ready for prophethood through his pious actions and behavior. Among his people he had already earned the name Al-Amin, The Trustworthy. Moreover, Mohammad (pbuh) was a mature man, one who had lived the majority of his life, and could devote the next twenty-three years of that life to the service of God.

Since different verses of the Qur'an were being revealed as and when appropriate, it was not possible from the very beginning to write and preserve it in a book form. So, during the initial stage of Islam, major emphasis was laid on memory as a means of preserving the Qur'an.

When a revelation used to come in the very beginning, the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) would tend to repeat its words instantly so that they would be memorized well enough. Thereupon, Allah Almighty directed him through the verses of Soorah Qiyaamah that he need not repeat words in a hurry immediately as revelation came. Allah Almighty would himself endow him with a memory that he will be unable to forget the words of the revelation once its descent has been completed. So it was that the moment the Qur'anic verses would come to him, they would be committed to his memory the next moment. Thus, the blessed chest of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam), was the most protected vault of the Qur'an, in which there was no chance of even some common mistake, editing or alteration. Moreover, as a matter of additional precaution, he used to recite the Qur'an before angel Jibra'eel every year during the month of Ramadhaan; and the year he left this mortal world he completed a cumulative review of Qur'anic recitation twice with Jibra'eel. (Saheeh Bukhaari with Fat'hul Baari)

Again, as it was, he would not restrict his teachings of the Sahaabah (Companions) to just the meaning of the Qur'an, but had them memorize its words as well. Then, the revered Companions were themselves so enamored with a desire to learn and remember the Qur'an that every one of them was anxious to get ahead of the other. There were women who claimed no dowry from their husbands except that they would teach the Qur'an.

Hundreds of Companions, freeing themselves from all other concerns, had devoted their whole lives for this purpose. Not only did they memorize the Qur'an but also went on repeating it within the nightly prayers. "When someone migrated from Makkah and came to Madeenah", says Ubaadah Ibne Saamit, "the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) would entrust him to one of us Ansaar so that he could teach Qur'an to the new comer." The mosque of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) was so filled with voices generated by learners and teachers of the Qur'an that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had to ask them to lower their voices so that mistakes are not made. (Manaahilul 'Irfaan)

Thus memorisation of the Qur'an was given more emphasis in early Islam as this was the only protected and trustworthy method given the conditions of that time. The reason is that the number of people who could read or write was very limited in those days. The means of publishing books, such as printing press, etc., were not there. Therefore, in that situation, if writing was taken to be sufficient, it would have neither been possible to spread the Qur'an on an extensive scale nor to protect it reliably. In its place, Allah Almighty had blessed the people of Arabia with a memory of such dimensions that thousands of poetic lines would normally rest in the memory of one person after another. Common ordinary villagers would remember by heart their genealogies and those of their families and unbelievably enough - even those of their horses! Therefore, this power of memory was well utilized for the conservation and protection of the Qur'an and it was through it that the verses and chapters of the Qur'an reached all over in to the far corners of Arabia.

Besides having the Qur'an committed to memory, the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) made special arrangements to have the Qur'an committed to writing as well. Zayd Ibne Thaabit says: "I used to write down the words of wahee for him. When wahee came to him he felt burning with heat and the drops of perspiration would start rolling down on his body like pearls. When this state would go away from him, I would present myself before him with shoulder-bone or a piece (of something else). He would go on dictating and I would go on writing. When I would be finished with writing, the shear weight of copying the Qur'an would give me the feeling that my leg is going to break and that I will never be able to walk. In any case, when I would be finished with writing, he would say: 'Read.' I would read it back to him if there was a shortcoming, he would have it corrected and then let it be known to people. (Majma'uz Zawaa'id with reference to Tabraani)

Thus, there existed, during the time of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam), a copy of the Noble Qur'aan which he had arranged to be committed to writing under his supervision. Although, it was not there as a formally prepared book, but it certainly was there in the form of various units of available writing materials. Along with it, it was also the practice of some revered Companions that they would make copies of the Qur'anic verses and keep them for personal recollection. This practice was common since the very early period of Islam. Accordingly, much before Umar embraced Islaam, his sister and brother-in-law had in their possession verses of the Qur'aan which they had written and kept in a book form.

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- cadanre at 1-10-2010 04:15 PM (10 years ago)
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After reading you trash all. That is what I expect from you.

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- chik001 at 2-10-2010 02:03 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on  1-10-2010 04:15 PM
After reading you trash all. That is what I expect from you.

Where did you copy that from or where or who can testify to this proof?
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- cadanre at 2-10-2010 06:28 PM (10 years ago)
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Why do you ask?

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- chik001 at 2-10-2010 11:59 PM (10 years ago)
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Why do you ask?

It doesnt prove anything. I simple dont believe...All this is what you copied, were told or read was simply someone's idea. Tongue
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- cadanre at 3-10-2010 07:25 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  2-10-2010 11:59 PM
Quote from: cadanre on  2-10-2010 06:28 PM
Why do you ask?

It doesnt prove anything. I simple dont believe...All this is what you copied, were told or read was simply someone's idea. Tongue

It does not prove anything to you and it may never do, because this is not the language you understand and you may never understand it. The only language you understand is to say that this is 'CADANRE'S VERSION'. No! Never!!!!!!! There is nothing originally of your own in Islam. We do not invent or innovate as you people use to do with bible. You either read from the original or you leave it. If I read the whole thing and I changed it into my own language, it is still not mine, because being a Muslim, I have nothing of my own. I cannot innovate like you people do.

It also seems to me that you lack something important doing and I provided this for you to read and understand, but it appears that you don't have a gut to read and understand it. Take it or leave it chikkkkkkkk, it is not and will never be what I BLOODY CARE for.

FAMAN YUDHULILLAHU FA-LAN TAJIDA LAHU SABILA - FA LAN TAJIDA LAHU NASIRA.

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- cadanre at 3-10-2010 07:31 PM (10 years ago)
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In many situations, links are being provided as proofs.

In your previous comments you asserts that you visited many Muslim countries. Is that why you are telling lies about them?

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- chik001 at 3-10-2010 08:36 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on  3-10-2010 07:31 PM
In many situations, links are being provided as proofs.

In your previous comments you asserts that you visited many Muslim countries. Is that why you are telling lies about them?


You've now prove to me that you have a manupulative and insincere personality. You have once told me that the Koran has been traNslated to housa, dont worry, I will try to read the English version of the Koran. Read it and tell me if there is a mistake:

http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/

This link provides the different (German - Russian , ChineseSpanishGreekIndonesian, Turkish , Korean, Persian - Albanian , SomaliBosnianPortugueseYorubaVietnamese, VERSION or translations of the Koran.

http://www.islamway.com/SF/quran/

You and your sidekicks continue to decieve yourselves with semantics (VERSION and TRANSLATION)
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- abduuul at 4-10-2010 11:05 AM (10 years ago)
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@ chik0000000000000000000000000001

You are proving to us that you are a sadist. What and what reasons do you have to say that Qur'an is Satanic? Give us your reasons then we will provide you with proofs that it is not. Just like I said that Bible is not the word of God and I brought to you my reasons which you could/have never attempted to deny (by providing counter proof). Don't be foolish and be doing things up head like this.

Just as abdul said, go and make a comparison and see which one is Gods' and which one is not. Just try that and see.

The most interesting thing about you guys is that; you like to read your own words and probably listen to your own voices. You seem to think you made a valid point by scoring yourselves.
For the record; you and your sidekicks only succeeded in proving to yourselves that The Bible is not the word of God...and I did not call The Koran as Satanic Verses, if you read my post carefully, am trying to use it to bring out a point.
Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?

 Responding to your question "Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?"
Quran is in So many Languages not only in Arabic. Telling us that you cannot read Arabic is never a Reason or excuse of not knowing what is in the Quran. Qur'an was Translated in English for the people that did not read Arabic, you can find English version for your comparison. Just Google the word "English version of the Qur'an" you will see it.
 
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- chik001 at 4-10-2010 11:27 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on 30-09-2010 05:32 PM
@ chik0000000000000000000000000001

You are proving to us that you are a sadist. What and what reasons do you have to say that Qur'an is Satanic? Give us your reasons then we will provide you with proofs that it is not. Just like I said that Bible is not the word of God and I brought to you my reasons which you could/have never attempted to deny (by providing counter proof). Don't be foolish and be doing things up head like this.

Just as abdul said, go and make a comparison and see which one is Gods' and which one is not. Just try that and see.

The most interesting thing about you guys is that; you like to read your own words and probably listen to your own voices. You seem to think you made a valid point by scoring yourselves.
For the record; you and your sidekicks only succeeded in proving to yourselves that The Bible is not the word of God...and I did not call The Koran as Satanic Verses, if you read my post carefully, am trying to use it to bring out a point.
Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?

 Responding to your question "Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?"
Quran is in So many Languages not only in Arabic. Telling us that you cannot read Arabic is never a Reason or excuse of not knowing what is in the Quran. Qur'an was Translated in English for the people that did not read Arabic, you can find English version for your comparison. Just Google the word "English version of the Qur'an" you will see it.
 
I like your sincerity. I merely asked the question because, some of our Muslim brothers especially CANDANRE, is trying to proof that The Holy Bible is incomplete because of the different VERSION .
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- richy_ex at 4-10-2010 01:33 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 30-08-2010 12:50 PM
Quote from: Inemx on 26-08-2010 01:48 PM
GO HOME, TAKE THE BIBLE AND READ MEDITATIVELY ON THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST- THE FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY. AM SURE YOU ARE WRONG IN YOUR JUDGEMENT...

Thanx for your advise,but for your own information, I read the bible that is why i quote from it. it is now left for you to confirm.



my dear brother jesus christ is the new law ,teacher and everything
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- abduuul at 4-10-2010 03:04 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  4-10-2010 11:27 AM
Quote from: abduuul on  4-10-2010 11:05 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  1-10-2010 03:20 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 30-09-2010 05:32 PM
@ chik0000000000000000000000000001

You are proving to us that you are a sadist. What and what reasons do you have to say that Qur'an is Satanic? Give us your reasons then we will provide you with proofs that it is not. Just like I said that Bible is not the word of God and I brought to you my reasons which you could/have never attempted to deny (by providing counter proof). Don't be foolish and be doing things up head like this.

Just as abdul said, go and make a comparison and see which one is Gods' and which one is not. Just try that and see.

The most interesting thing about you guys is that; you like to read your own words and probably listen to your own voices. You seem to think you made a valid point by scoring yourselves.
For the record; you and your sidekicks only succeeded in proving to yourselves that The Bible is not the word of God...and I did not call The Koran as Satanic Verses, if you read my post carefully, am trying to use it to bring out a point.
Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?

 Responding to your question "Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?"
Quran is in So many Languages not only in Arabic. Telling us that you cannot read Arabic is never a Reason or excuse of not knowing what is in the Quran. Qur'an was Translated in English for the people that did not read Arabic, you can find English version for your comparison. Just Google the word "English version of the Qur'an" you will see it.
 
I like your sincerity. I merely asked the question because, some of our Muslim brothers especially CANDANRE, is trying to proof that The Holy Bible is incomplete because of the different VERSION .


I am not Saying that The Qur'an is also in other versions NONO!! all What am Saying is that, there is a translation of the Arabic text for you to see. All of them has the same meaning . No any alteration or change of any verse.
 Thanks for Appreciating my sincerity.
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- chik001 at 5-10-2010 12:41 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on 30-09-2010 05:32 PM
@ chik0000000000000000000000000001

You are proving to us that you are a sadist. What and what reasons do you have to say that Qur'an is Satanic? Give us your reasons then we will provide you with proofs that it is not. Just like I said that Bible is not the word of God and I brought to you my reasons which you could/have never attempted to deny (by providing counter proof). Don't be foolish and be doing things up head like this.

Just as abdul said, go and make a comparison and see which one is Gods' and which one is not. Just try that and see.

The most interesting thing about you guys is that; you like to read your own words and probably listen to your own voices. You seem to think you made a valid point by scoring yourselves.
For the record; you and your sidekicks only succeeded in proving to yourselves that The Bible is not the word of God...and I did not call The Koran as Satanic Verses, if you read my post carefully, am trying to use it to bring out a point.
Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?

 Responding to your question "Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?"
Quran is in So many Languages not only in Arabic. Telling us that you cannot read Arabic is never a Reason or excuse of not knowing what is in the Quran. Qur'an was Translated in English for the people that did not read Arabic, you can find English version for your comparison. Just Google the word "English version of the Qur'an" you will see it.
 
I like your sincerity. I merely asked the question because, some of our Muslim brothers especially CANDANRE, is trying to proof that The Holy Bible is incomplete because of the different VERSION .


I am not Saying that The Qur'an is also in other versions NONO!! all What am Saying is that, there is a translation of the Arabic text for you to see. All of them has the same meaning . No any alteration or change of any verse.
 Thanks for Appreciating my sincerity.
Here we go again...So you were asleep when you posted your last comment.
Anyway, tell us the difference between Translation and Version. Please make sure you are awake this time o!
Posted: at 5-10-2010 12:41 AM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- cadanre at 5-10-2010 02:49 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  4-10-2010 11:27 AM
Quote from: abduuul on  4-10-2010 11:05 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  1-10-2010 03:20 AM
Quote from: cadanre on 30-09-2010 05:32 PM
@ chik0000000000000000000000000001

You are proving to us that you are a sadist. What and what reasons do you have to say that Qur'an is Satanic? Give us your reasons then we will provide you with proofs that it is not. Just like I said that Bible is not the word of God and I brought to you my reasons which you could/have never attempted to deny (by providing counter proof). Don't be foolish and be doing things up head like this.

Just as abdul said, go and make a comparison and see which one is Gods' and which one is not. Just try that and see.

The most interesting thing about you guys is that; you like to read your own words and probably listen to your own voices. You seem to think you made a valid point by scoring yourselves.
For the record; you and your sidekicks only succeeded in proving to yourselves that The Bible is not the word of God...and I did not call The Koran as Satanic Verses, if you read my post carefully, am trying to use it to bring out a point.
Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?

 Responding to your question "Talking of comparison; I can not read Arabic, how do I know what is in The Koran?"
Quran is in So many Languages not only in Arabic. Telling us that you cannot read Arabic is never a Reason or excuse of not knowing what is in the Quran. Qur'an was Translated in English for the people that did not read Arabic, you can find English version for your comparison. Just Google the word "English version of the Qur'an" you will see it.
 
I like your sincerity. I merely asked the question because, some of our Muslim brothers especially CANDANRE, is trying to proof that The Holy Bible is incomplete because of the different VERSION .


As if you sincerely means it. I doubt if you know what sincerity is. I am just watching you because I am sure you cant fool me.

Posted: at 5-10-2010 02:49 AM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- vantheo at 6-10-2010 10:32 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 26-08-2010 12:57 PM
1. Ablution(i.e. Partial washing of certain parts of the body like the hand,face,arm and the feet) before worship.

  a. See Exodus 40 verse 30-32

    " Moses put the wash-basin between the tent of meeting and the altar  and filled it with water. Moses,Aaron and his sons used it to wash their hands and feet whenever they entered  the tent of meeting or approached the altar as the Lord commended Moses."

 b. In John 13 verse 5-9, Jesus himself was washing the hands and the feet of his disciples but Simor Peter refused to be so washed. After Jesus had told him the importance of the washing, Simon agreed and asked Jesus to wash his hands including the feet and his head.
                        OBSERVATION 
  The parts of the body mentioned above constitute some of the compulsory aspects of ablution as stated in the holy Qurran chapter 5 verse 6.
2.   Ritual bath after Sexual Intercourse
          This is a compulsory bath to be observed after sexual intercourse by every man and his woman.
          Leviticus 15 verse 18 reads: "When a man lies with a woman and there is an emission of Semen both must bathe with water"
3.           Ritual bath after Menstrual Period
       This bath is compulsory for every lady at the end of every monthly period(i.e menstruation) See
    Leviticus 15 verse 19  to 23 on the above.
4.    Call to Prayer
   This is done before each of the five daily prayers to invite muslims to the mosque. In Nehemiah chapter 9 verse 5-6, it is stated that eight men who were  Levites made a call to worship saying: "... Stand up and Praise the Lord your God, praise him forever and ever"
Why do the Christians now use bell to call people to Church, instead of the above which is similar to how Muslims are invited to the mosque for worship?       
U SERIOUSLY LACK UNDERSTANDING.

Posted: at 6-10-2010 10:32 AM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- abduuul at 18-10-2010 02:35 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: vantheo on  6-10-2010 10:32 AM
Quote from: abduuul on 26-08-2010 12:57 PM
1. Ablution(i.e. Partial washing of certain parts of the body like the hand,face,arm and the feet) before worship.

  a. See Exodus 40 verse 30-32

    " Moses put the wash-basin between the tent of meeting and the altar  and filled it with water. Moses,Aaron and his sons used it to wash their hands and feet whenever they entered  the tent of meeting or approached the altar as the Lord commended Moses."

 b. In John 13 verse 5-9, Jesus himself was washing the hands and the feet of his disciples but Simor Peter refused to be so washed. After Jesus had told him the importance of the washing, Simon agreed and asked Jesus to wash his hands including the feet and his head.
                        OBSERVATION 
  The parts of the body mentioned above constitute some of the compulsory aspects of ablution as stated in the holy Qurran chapter 5 verse 6.
2.   Ritual bath after Sexual Intercourse
          This is a compulsory bath to be observed after sexual intercourse by every man and his woman.
          Leviticus 15 verse 18 reads: "When a man lies with a woman and there is an emission of Semen both must bathe with water"
3.           Ritual bath after Menstrual Period
       This bath is compulsory for every lady at the end of every monthly period(i.e menstruation) See
    Leviticus 15 verse 19  to 23 on the above.
4.    Call to Prayer
   This is done before each of the five daily prayers to invite muslims to the mosque. In Nehemiah chapter 9 verse 5-6, it is stated that eight men who were  Levites made a call to worship saying: "... Stand up and Praise the Lord your God, praise him forever and ever"
Why do the Christians now use bell to call people to Church, instead of the above which is similar to how Muslims are invited to the mosque for worship?       
U SERIOUSLY LACK UNDERSTANDING.

No time for someone that did not no anything about his own religion..
go back to school and learn my friend..
Posted: at 18-10-2010 02:35 PM (10 years ago) | Upcoming
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- rcbako at 16-11-2010 11:44 AM (10 years ago)
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I think there is a big difference during the time of Old Testament to the New Testament. During the Time of Christ (New Testament) the Mosaic Law was abolished and it was replaced with higher commandments which Jesus himself gave. Nowadays, we are living under the higher law and it is not really advised to follow the older commandments.

Posted: at 16-11-2010 11:44 AM (10 years ago) | Newbie
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