I can prove christianity is fake (Page 2)

Date: 16-09-2010 9:36 am (13 years ago) | Author: benti Adex
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- ajepakoromance at 17-09-2010 09:11 PM (13 years ago)
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According to oxford word etymology and origin of words,Holy is a degenerative of Helios..Helios is a Greek word, meaning Sun...Bible is from papyrus, and papyrus means paper or book..So the HOLY BIBLE is another word for SUN BOOK OR SUN PAPER..

I can confidently say that,the bible is our book,bcus we African's are the masters of cosmology..The proof is our culture's and Egypt..Why not,if we African's are the mother and father of the world,meaning all human race came from us,then every human culture most be from us too..

The argument here is..We gave knowledge to an unprepared mind,which in turn,the unprepared mind corrupted the knowledge and use it to enslave us,bcus of their fear and lack of self esteem..The bible as we know it today is a corrupted version of the ancient books or records of the cosmic..This is why Jesus is the number 13, which in astronomy means the Sun..BRB.
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- kadzy at 18-09-2010 02:47 AM (13 years ago)
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all of you are fools, if you think there is no GOD who wants us to serve him as christians. looks likes you guys have been reading foolish books, Questions : what is on the NORTH of the UNIVERSE, what is the depth of the BLACK SEA, PACIFIC, man is seen as what?Huh?Huh? biologically, why haven't humans changed in the process of evolution etc. you think those scientist has the answers to every question, go and ask them and you will be shocked. excuse me don't be a fool, can you see your brain, or the way thoughts are flying through your mind, be very careful guys, today is another opprtunity to give ur lives to JESUS son of GOD
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- chik001 at 18-09-2010 01:54 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 17-09-2010 07:38 PM
I will oblige and continue........

Now we are going to query history systematically.
Since I was not born nor a witness in that era.
I will have to use all the information available to me to decipher stories that are true of events that occurred in that era.

The first point of call for this topic is the source of God knowledge to me, THE BIBLE.

The first bible I owned personally was the Gideon’s Bible. It was easy to have a Gideon’s bible as the Gideons distribute more that 56 million Bibles and New Testaments every year since 1908. Later I was furnished with “THE KING JAMES BIBLE”. Through the learning passed unto me, by my parents, pastors, and friends, I learnt to know a God existed and I can know more about him from reading the bible.
   
THE BIBLE, like novels, or story books, is a book containing writings that are supposedly true of the beginning of life on earth.

Like a questioning soul, I wondered if the bible was written at that time by God himself.

The answer i received was that the bible is a compilation of books written by different people.
The people where each inspired by God at the time they wrote.
The oldest of these writers was Moses who is credited with writing the first five books of the bible including the laws from God.

Moses was born in Egypt on the 7th of Adar of the year 2368 from creation (1393 BCE) and passed away on his 120th birthday -- Adar 7, 2488 (1273 BCE).

I will start with MOSES.

It will be childish of me to state that the bible in my hand was that written by Moses or to instigate that the words of the bible present today are not the true words of Moses.  We all know paper was not in use in 1345 BC. As the wood-derived paper still used today was developed in A.D. 105 by Chinese inventor Tsai Lun. He was the first to create a thin, flat sheet or tissue from mostly bark, hemp, and other fibrous materials such as rags. Not that there was no writing material in Egypt in 1393 BC. Note that the word PAPER derives from the Greek term for the ancient Egyptian writing material called papyrus, which was formed from beaten strips of papyrus plants. So Moses could have written on papyrus.

Am I free to assume that the paper Bible is a similar, if not exact copy of Moses’ history of the first five books?


Ok, dont let me interupt you... just ponder on this question then continue:
So you believed that the first paper was used in 1345 BC and was developed in AD 105 by a Chinese inventor?
How did you know that? You may choose to answer now or later please...

Continue my brother...
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- mubaji at 18-09-2010 03:39 PM (13 years ago)
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lost-souls are looking for more of their likes.
i'm off
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- Romanos at 18-09-2010 09:02 PM (13 years ago)
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Brother (I don't know your name but your moniker is "democrazy", this comment is for you),

You have done a lot of study, you have displayed your knowledge for us, you have even shown us that you can include Greek and Arabic text and names in your demonstrations, though I am not sure that you can read and understand those languages. Myself, I can read Arabic with some understanding, so the Qur'an is open to me in the original. But more importantly, I can read and understand Greek fluently, and so the New Testament as well as the Greek version of the Old Testament are open to me in the original. (I also can read Hebrew and understand it relatively well, so the Tanakh and Talmud is somewhat open to me.) These are not my boasts, but I want to be fair with you, to know with whom you are dealing, though I am not here to debate. This is what you apparently want to do, so my comment will be short and without requiring a response.

To help you along with your reasoning, I have this to say. Do not make assumptions or build your arguments on the English text of the Bible or the Qur'an, especially the Bible, because no translation perfectly expresses the meaning of the original. What are we to do then? Can't we argue from the translated texts? To this I would answer, No, we cannot, but the reason may be not what you might expect. It's not because the translations are not exact or various between the many versions, but because meaning is dependent on living reality, on actual existence, and does not really reside in the words of the Bible (I limit muself to the Bible, as the Qur'an to me is not scripture at all), in no matter which language.

You have learning, intellectual ability, access to documentation. You have a reasoning mind, a perceptive mind, and you have found a field in which you have done a lot of digging with your mind, but you will never find what is living under all that weight of topsoil, clay and rocks. You may find a buried treasure there, if you are lucky, but only the dead are buried in that field, not the Living. I think you want to find the Living, because you want to justify your own life, you want to be convinced that you are alive, and for a reason, and you want others to be as fortunate as you are, in knowing the Truth.

But you haven't found the Truth yet, brother, because you are still digging where only the dead are buried. Thoughts have no life in them, ideas have no life. They take on reality only when Life is breathed into them. Until that time, they are merely thoughts, merely words to be blabbed into the air, creating sounds that could have meaning if someone heard them, but even then, only the Living can hear. All our study, all our enquiry, all our investigation, all our reasoning with the results, all of it, all of it is still-life, like a painting of fruits in a bowl, or flowers in vase, or a plate with bread, knife and a jug of milk. But you cannot taste those fruits, nor smell those blossoms, you cannot break and eat that bread or drink that milk—it's only a painting, not the reality. This is where all our research, thinking and reasoning will get us: no further than creating a still-life, a mere image, not the Reality, not the Living, not the Truth.

What else can I say? Brother, don't turn your life into death. Don't train your mind's eye on itself, but look outward, upward, receive your sight, and learn what or who the Truth is by living, by studying not words and ideas, but people, the world, life and death, faith and doubt, love and hate, man and woman, age and youth, wealth and poverty, health and sickness, and the list goes on in no particular order. But enter into this path as if there were no other, leave behind all opinions, even yours, abandon all defenses and the desire to win, let yourself be as fresh from the taint of death as a newborn baby, and then breathe in as for the first time the breath of Life, and in due time your eyes will really open, and not in books and words and ideas will you find the Truth, but in the face of the Living, the True and Faithful.

What was all this banter about religions true and false? Did I dream about it long ago? Was I ever awake before, or only now?
This is where you want to go, brother. Stop yourself in your tracks, raise your eyes up, and fly, don't walk.
You were made with wings.
Use them.

http://cost-of-discipleship.blogspot.com/

Posted: at 18-09-2010 09:02 PM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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- derbi at 19-09-2010 02:14 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 17-09-2010 02:39 PM
@abduuul, If Religion is a set of belief and culture. Then you are wrong about me. I do have things I belief in. If religion is about believing in a supernatural being i.e God, Bhudda, Allah, etc.......then you are right about me. I have no time for such nonsence, which is why you and I are here. Am here to clean out your brainwashing. Also no need saying christianity is false and Islam is true without voicing the fact or wisdom you have. I assure you that Islam only differs from Christianity because of the Story of Jesus(Anubi Isa), Mohammed and Gospel or Hadith. Everything else ranging from History of creation is same.

@Demiroee

thanks for taking a seat. Am sure you wont be disappointed.

@chik001
 
I do understand what you mean by God, Jesus Christ, Christianity or Christians are all attached together.  We need to understand the difference in dependent and non-dependent occurrence, activities, or events. To fully explain this we will have to go back directly to the beginning.
 
WHY?

The Christian is dependent on the existence of Christianity as a religion. The existence of Christianity is dependent on the death and resurrection of the Messiah called Jesus Christ. The existence of Jesus Christ depends on God existing.

I want to be sure you agree with my statement of dependency. If no objections I will continue shortly........................

hay mr poster so u believe that there is God, i have nothing to say to u becouse ur picture there has already show ur condition ur brain is affected and occording to ur pic, one side of ur brain is dead, and that is the part that ur religion that is teaching terrorism is occupieing and u are here hideing ur religion trying to make jokes with orther people religion dont u know that christianity is the only true religion that every orther fake religion are trying to make tread with eg like urs.....claimeing to know Jesus christ very well than we the true followers of christ so if u are so foolish to call christianity fake so what stand are u in ur himmitating religion..... Grin Grin fool
Posted: at 19-09-2010 02:14 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 20-09-2010 02:38 AM (13 years ago)
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@DEMO
Are you MIA (Missing in action)?. I guess not...
I like to listen to guys like you... You sound like me in 1992, My 1st year in The University of Lagos, philosophy 10-something  (Albino lecturer, check him out).
I became an atheist after listening to him, read all the books you can ever imagine ( from Darwin's Evolution to Richard Robinson's Atheist's Values); argued with folks,  trying to proof the non existence of The Almighty God and things that relate to him through definitions and The intellect.
After all the argument and brain cudgelling, little did I know that I was drawing a ring around myself shutting God and HIS entire glorious creation out and letting little in.
...BUT HE,  in his infinite mercy, HE FORGAVE and BLESSED me. Grin

The I realised why he called himself...THE IAM THAT IAM...

I am not in anyway trying to diss you ; please continue from where you stopped...
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- ajepakoromance at 20-09-2010 12:50 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: Romanos on 18-09-2010 09:02 PM
Brother (I don't know your name but your moniker is "democrazy", this comment is for you),

You have done a lot of study, you have displayed your knowledge for us, you have even shown us that you can include Greek and Arabic text and names in your demonstrations, though I am not sure that you can read and understand those languages. Myself, I can read Arabic with some understanding, so the Qur'an is open to me in the original. But more importantly, I can read and understand Greek fluently, and so the New Testament as well as the Greek version of the Old Testament are open to me in the original. (I also can read Hebrew and understand it relatively well, so the Tanakh and Talmud is somewhat open to me.) These are not my boasts, but I want to be fair with you, to know with whom you are dealing, though I am not here to debate. This is what you apparently want to do, so my comment will be short and without requiring a response.

To help you along with your reasoning, I have this to say. Do not make assumptions or build your arguments on the English text of the Bible or the Qur'an, especially the Bible, because no translation perfectly expresses the meaning of the original. What are we to do then? Can't we argue from the translated texts? To this I would answer, No, we cannot, but the reason may be not what you might expect. It's not because the translations are not exact or various between the many versions, but because meaning is dependent on living reality, on actual existence, and does not really reside in the words of the Bible (I limit muself to the Bible, as the Qur'an to me is not scripture at all), in no matter which language.

You have learning, intellectual ability, access to documentation. You have a reasoning mind, a perceptive mind, and you have found a field in which you have done a lot of digging with your mind, but you will never find what is living under all that weight of topsoil, clay and rocks. You may find a buried treasure there, if you are lucky, but only the dead are buried in that field, not the Living. I think you want to find the Living, because you want to justify your own life, you want to be convinced that you are alive, and for a reason, and you want others to be as fortunate as you are, in knowing the Truth.

But you haven't found the Truth yet, brother, because you are still digging where only the dead are buried. Thoughts have no life in them, ideas have no life. They take on reality only when Life is breathed into them. Until that time, they are merely thoughts, merely words to be blabbed into the air, creating sounds that could have meaning if someone heard them, but even then, only the Living can hear. All our study, all our enquiry, all our investigation, all our reasoning with the results, all of it, all of it is still-life, like a painting of fruits in a bowl, or flowers in vase, or a plate with bread, knife and a jug of milk. But you cannot taste those fruits, nor smell those blossoms, you cannot break and eat that bread or drink that milk—it's only a painting, not the reality. This is where all our research, thinking and reasoning will get us: no further than creating a still-life, a mere image, not the Reality, not the Living, not the Truth.

What else can I say? Brother, don't turn your life into death. Don't train your mind's eye on itself, but look outward, upward, receive your sight, and learn what or who the Truth is by living, by studying not words and ideas, but people, the world, life and death, faith and doubt, love and hate, man and woman, age and youth, wealth and poverty, health and sickness, and the list goes on in no particular order. But enter into this path as if there were no other, leave behind all opinions, even yours, abandon all defenses and the desire to win, let yourself be as fresh from the taint of death as a newborn baby, and then breathe in as for the first time the breath of Life, and in due time your eyes will really open, and not in books and words and ideas will you find the Truth, but in the face of the Living, the True and Faithful.

What was all this banter about religions true and false? Did I dream about it long ago? Was I ever awake before, or only now?
This is where you want to go, brother. Stop yourself in your tracks, raise your eyes up, and fly, don't walk.
You were made with wings.
Use them.

http://cost-of-discipleship.blogspot.com/


 Shocked  Shocked  Huh?, What is this truth,we need to find?..Your definition of death is scaring,  Shocked  Shocked Huh?.Could that be sin..Hmm!!!, wonder plus wondering equal waka waka..No bi small..
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- atamajim at 20-09-2010 02:33 PM (13 years ago)
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 The sign of end time, devil in the name democracy trying to proof God Almighty is a liar?. Brothers and sisters, its time to be stead fast in our prayers for the lord of the dark world is really here,.i'm out of here
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- democrazy at 21-09-2010 12:23 AM (13 years ago)
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@chik001

I am not MIA. Like many of my brothers that have ventured into this realm, we do experience difficulty. Some of this includes loss of internet connectivity......But i wont bore you with that.......just that this may be a slow process, but wont be MIA...............

See what really keeps us going (I mean including pako, harakiri, price, etc) is not that we are Athiest or believe in science against creation, but...............
how do the members of a group of race of peoples escape the suicidal mystifications of colonial miseducation if they are not even aware of them? Clearly, it is suicidal for lambs to see, think and act out of assumptions about the world that reflect and further the interests of the lions and jackals preying upon them.

@Pako, I am taking your advice and ignoring the sheeples.

@chik001, why i mention the paper history is so we can have a clear picture of history and it's development. I said the type of paper we currently use for writing was first known about in 100 AD. If there is any reference to paper being available before this date.....please let me know so we can iron out any doubts. ............We may at one stage have to touch on the history of writing materials and language if need be. In the meantime i shall continue from where i stopped.........MOSES!!!

In the first five books Moses wrote, he talked about how everything was created.  He narrated the story from creation till his own birth and death. It is from these stories Moses wrote, and its translation in the bible, that made me aware of his existence. To acceptance of the books written by Moses as truth, depends on the existence of Moses outside of his own statement. I know some may not understand this statement. In short what I’m saying is since the story he is telling predates him and there were other people who could write at his time in Egypt. There should be at least a copy of the Egyptian stories that will include events that took place in this time period. Also are there any supporting books to show this person Moses existed?
The Bible, which is a compilation of different books, cannot be the main backbone of this story as it is one of its stories that are being verified. Though being the initial source of this information it has to be included as a guide. I will not be using the Quran either, as we are talking about a time frame between 1393BC to 1273 BC. We know the Quran was not written nor existed at this time.
So what source of alternate information do we check to verify if Moses was alive in Egypt in the time frame specified? A good start point will be to see if there was any records of Egyptian life in that period.


Posted: at 21-09-2010 12:23 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 21-09-2010 11:07 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: derbi on 19-09-2010 02:14 AM
Quote from: democrazy on 17-09-2010 02:39 PM
@abduuul, If Religion is a set of belief and culture. Then you are wrong about me. I do have things I belief in. If religion is about believing in a supernatural being i.e God, Bhudda, Allah, etc.......then you are right about me. I have no time for such nonsence, which is why you and I are here. Am here to clean out your brainwashing. Also no need saying christianity is false and Islam is true without voicing the fact or wisdom you have. I assure you that Islam only differs from Christianity because of the Story of Jesus(Anubi Isa), Mohammed and Gospel or Hadith. Everything else ranging from History of creation is same.

@Demiroee

thanks for taking a seat. Am sure you wont be disappointed.

@chik001
 
I do understand what you mean by God, Jesus Christ, Christianity or Christians are all attached together.  We need to understand the difference in dependent and non-dependent occurrence, activities, or events. To fully explain this we will have to go back directly to the beginning.
 
WHY?

The Christian is dependent on the existence of Christianity as a religion. The existence of Christianity is dependent on the death and resurrection of the Messiah called Jesus Christ. The existence of Jesus Christ depends on God existing.

I want to be sure you agree with my statement of dependency. If no objections I will continue shortly........................

mr poster so u believe that there is God, i have nothing to say to u because ur picture there has already show ur condition, ur brain is affected and occording to ur pic, one side of ur brain is dead Grin Grin
Posted: at 21-09-2010 11:07 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 22-09-2010 02:15 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 21-09-2010 12:23 AM
@chik001

I am not MIA. Like many of my brothers that have ventured into this realm, we do experience difficulty. Some of this includes loss of internet connectivity......But i wont bore you with that.......just that this may be a slow process, but wont be MIA...............

See what really keeps us going (I mean including pako, harakiri, price, etc) is not that we are Athiest or believe in science against creation, but...............
how do the members of a group of race of peoples escape the suicidal mystifications of colonial miseducation if they are not even aware of them? Clearly, it is suicidal for lambs to see, think and act out of assumptions about the world that reflect and further the interests of the lions and jackals preying upon them.

@Pako, I am taking your advice and ignoring the sheeples.

@chik001, why i mention the paper history is so we can have a clear picture of history and it's development. I said the type of paper we currently use for writing was first known about in 100 AD. If there is any reference to paper being available before this date.....please let me know so we can iron out any doubts. ............We may at one stage have to touch on the history of writing materials and language if need be. In the meantime i shall continue from where i stopped.........MOSES!!!

In the first five books Moses wrote, he talked about how everything was created.  He narrated the story from creation till his own birth and death. It is from these stories Moses wrote, and its translation in the bible, that made me aware of his existence. To acceptance of the books written by Moses as truth, depends on the existence of Moses outside of his own statement. I know some may not understand this statement. In short what I’m saying is since the story he is telling predates him and there were other people who could write at his time in Egypt. There should be at least a copy of the Egyptian stories that will include events that took place in this time period. Also are there any supporting books to show this person Moses existed?
The Bible, which is a compilation of different books, cannot be the main backbone of this story as it is one of its stories that are being verified. Though being the initial source of this information it has to be included as a guide. I will not be using the Quran either, as we are talking about a time frame between 1393BC to 1273 BC. We know the Quran was not written nor existed at this time.
So what source of alternate information do we check to verify if Moses was alive in Egypt in the time frame specified? A good start point will be to see if there was any records of Egyptian life in that period.




@DEMO,
If I ask you to put in writing what you did since your last post, Can you tell me every detail to the last second? No you cant, no matter how clever you are!!,  you will only tell me the important bit and as time goes on you might try to remember other events bits by bits.

I read a lovely poem by K. Zwide - Wooden Spoon - (google it), He is South African, I loved the poem so much that I went in search of his other poems or life history, after the publisher of the anthology commented nothing was known of this Man or woman. No history whatsoever and no other works survived; probably got lost during the apartheid era or something.
But, DEMO; this is a piece of very lovely poem with an author, now just because there are no other work or personal history of him or her does that mean he or she never existed?
You must have heard of The Royal Library of Alexandria, or Ancient Library of Alexandria in Egypt burnt down by Julius Caesar in 48 BCE or thereabout, do you know what books were contained in that library?
The Nazis burnt 25,000 volumes of books in April 6, 1933. The called it the Jewish intellectualism which they said was against the or un-German spirit. Do we know what books were burnt then?

Lets come home... My maternal granny (my mother's mother) died in 1981, I remembered her telling me her own side of the stories of how they managed during civil war, after she died; it was discovered that there was no photograph of her anywhere in the family! Does that mean she and her own side of the war stories weren't true or never existed?
Then, if we follow this school of thought, no one will believe anything, even the books and quotes we use in discussions.




Posted: at 22-09-2010 02:15 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- democrazy at 22-09-2010 05:46 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: harakiri on 21-09-2010 10:44 PM
@democrazy. . . Nice thread. Seems ur getting ur share of negativity seen on my thread. Most of the posters are outright-brainwashed-religious-dummies straight out of the zombie factory. They can't think for themselves and can only spew what they have been spoon fed with from childhood. Imagine the so called christians calling the poster a fool and their same bible tells that such utterances are sinful. Bloody-demented-feather brained-hypocrites whose only business with religion is 'divine favour and miracles'. Braindead dummies. Dysfunctional robots!
@Harakiri
I had the feeling your thread was becoming too difficult for the average christian to fathom. We both know all christians are average since the devil is there to blame for their in ability to be righteous. They will always find ways to curse and fight. Yet they know in their hearts that christian religion is foreign so is the Christian God of the Isrealites foreign. They will come here too as you've seen and open their mouths like true children of the Christian God. I expect nothing good from them. You can see the history of the Isrealites. To them, they own this earth and all that is in the universe. If you dont comply.........check out the fate of all those non-Isrealite kings in the bible.
What this thread will eventually show them is how the bible was copied from the walls of egypt. How most of the bible stories are repeated astornomical events. How Jesus as the lamb, carrying a lamb around his neck was present in egyptian mythology before the birth of Abraham or Moses. I will show them how the Levites(whom they claim moses to be) took knowledge from egypt and later created religions such as paganism, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. How all Black history was destroyed and all statues in Egypt seems to have broken noses. Smiley Lots to talk about and this is a forum.....Ouch....am in no hurry.
Posted: at 22-09-2010 05:46 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- democrazy at 22-09-2010 06:07 AM (13 years ago)
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@chik001, will you compare the history and impact of a poet to that of Moses? I am sure if I took the whole of the black people out of England last week it will be recorded in English as well as African History books. Or am I not getting your point here?

I can assure you we will at one time get to the bottom of the story behind the burning of the Ancient Library of Alexandria in Egypt. There will be time. This is included as most of the temples where littered with information of history and rulers of the era. This is a part of the continous destruction of black history and altering of Black images to show then as curcasians. If you still think Moses history could have been destroyed, I can accept that as you and I know there is no eveidence of either Moses existing in Egypt at that time not the exodus of the Isrealites. The Isrealites did not exists as a race at this time. I will try my best to show you that also. No problem omitting Moses and moving straight to Jesus if you want, but I think a comprehensive history is required here. What do you think?
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- ajepakoromance at 22-09-2010 09:40 AM (13 years ago)
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Imperial Rome became PAPAL Rome on October 28, 312 A.D., when Constantine exchanged the eagle for the cross.Emperor Constantine became the first POPE.

1,The belief in a son of GOD was introduced by the FIRST COUNCIL OF NICEA IN 325 A.D.

2,The IMAGE of SERAPHICUS OR ALEXANDRA THE GREEK became Jesus or Christ at the COUNCIL OF EFESIOS 431A.D. turkey.

3,Christianity became a renown religion at the COUNCIL OF CHALCEDON 451A.D.

4,The first christian church was called HAGIA DE SOPHIA built by a man with the name JUSTINIAN and his wife Dieudora in Constantinople Turkey in the yr.532 A.d. and was finished 5 yrs latter in 537A.D.

5,The MOORS OR THE SUFI PEOPLE came into Europe in 700AD.and introduce Sufism which latter became ISLAM AND JUDIASM.

6,MOSES MARMONIDES born in 1040 AD in France A MOOR wrote the first five book of MOSES in 1080AD and finished in 1100AD.This books were name after him as the protocols for transacting business between the BARONS OR MOORS AND THE LAMBARD.The TEMPLAR CRUSADE OF 1096 robbed the MOORS from their financial power in EUROPE.

7,In 1437 the European first movable printing press.by JOHANNES GUTENBERG was created.

8,The first BIBILE ON EARTH WAS PRINTED IN 1475.THE OLD TESTAMENT which contains the first 5 book of MOSES created for the christian (Germanic people).

9,1516 the first new testament bible was formulated by DESIDERIUS ERASMUS commission by POPE ALEXANDRA IN 1500.It took Erasmus an homosegxwal and European play writer EX Vatican priest 16yrs.to complete this book and he name it 'NOUVEAU INSTRUMENTUM'.In 1519 the name was change to NOUVEAU TESTAMENTUM.Is book contains the 3 chapter of MATHEW,MARK AND LOOK and he latter added in 1519 another 6 books mainly 1 and 2 peter.1 and 2 Conrithians.Galatians and Efficians.In total as of 1519 the nouvea testamentum only contains 9 books writing by ERASMUS.

10,IN 1527 the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT WAS MADE 1 BOOK BY JACOB VAN LIESVELDT.A Swedish theologian

1I,The COUNCIL OF TRENT in the 15 centuries coronate THE POPE AS GOD THE FATHER no more the son as it first began with Constantine.

12,MARTIN LUTHER in 1535 wrote his own version of the bible aided by a French man called SAINT NICOLAAS LYCEUM..

13.1611 THE KING JAMES VERSION was put together by a group of theologians led by WILLIAM SHAKE SPEAR AND HIS HOMOsegxwal LOVER LANSCHOT ANDREW,Financed by KING JAMES AND THE LAMBARD OR JEWS....The fought GOSPEL OF JOHN AND OTHER BOOKS AS THE REVELATIONS WHERE ADDED INTO THE NEW TESTAMENT.AND JESUS WAS CALLED A JEW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY through a cunning idea to please the Lambards or Templars and till date this family still control the world financial monetary system...

To be continue..
Posted: at 22-09-2010 09:40 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- ajepakoromance at 22-09-2010 09:43 AM (13 years ago)
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For further information on the names,dates and time this event took place..Check for yourself the whole history online..Don't just read,make your own research..
Posted: at 22-09-2010 09:43 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- olame4 at 22-09-2010 02:56 PM (13 years ago)
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muslim religion of trust
Posted: at 22-09-2010 02:56 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- chik001 at 22-09-2010 08:02 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 22-09-2010 06:07 AM
@chik001, will you compare the history and impact of a poet to that of Moses? I am sure if I took the whole of the black people out of England last week it will be recorded in English as well as African History books. Or am I not getting your point here?

I can assure you we will at one time get to the bottom of the story behind the burning of the Ancient Library of Alexandria in Egypt. There will be time. This is included as most of the temples where littered with information of history and rulers of the era. This is a part of the continous destruction of black history and altering of Black images to show then as curcasians. If you still think Moses history could have been destroyed, I can accept that as you and I know there is no eveidence of either Moses existing in Egypt at that time not the exodus of the Isrealites. The Isrealites did not exists as a race at this time. I will try my best to show you that also. No problem omitting Moses and moving straight to Jesus if you want, but I think a comprehensive history is required here. What do you think?

I hear you bro...but do you think there were no other great men in that era apart from Moses. So you think my maternal granny is not as important as Moses, to me she is; they all have their role to play in history,  if you attach importance to it, then choice comes in.
I know about black history and it's alterations  by the introduction and indoctrination through religion, and I also know that the ultimate source and things that relates to"it" (lets not call it God now) pre-dates human history.
 Lets look at an example with The internet. To me is one of the greatest invention in human history. I buy and sell online, (Ebay sometimes) but do you know that no one will send goods to Naija, even in books here on how to buy and sell online, Naija's name is among the blacklisted places to send goods to. Most people in Naija use the internet for scam and fraud; does that make internet a wrong invention? People use good things for bad purposes.
Most immigrant here have taken the advantages of the internet to work from home!
If the slave traders used religion to have their way back in them days, That is and was not the use of true Christianity.
I was watching History channel the other day; There was this old lady who was the last of her kind in America, She has spent all her life trying to document every part of the language which of-course is going extinct. Her two grandchildren are interested in other things apart from that "forgotten language" as one of them called it.
If the Arabs was to have their way from the beginning, do you think they will not erase anything about Israel or Christianity?
But continue sha... and trade carefully about Jesus The Christ because; He is my main man;D him and I  go team up o!
Posted: at 22-09-2010 08:02 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- democrazy at 23-09-2010 03:23 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ajepakoromance on 22-09-2010 09:40 AM
Imperial Rome became PAPAL Rome on October 28, 312 A.D., when Constantine exchanged the eagle for the cross.Emperor Constantine became the first POPE.

1,The belief in a son of GOD was introduced by the FIRST COUNCIL OF NICEA IN 325 A.D.

2,The IMAGE of SERAPHICUS OR ALEXANDRA THE GREEK became Jesus or Christ at the COUNCIL OF EFESIOS 431A.D. turkey.

3,Christianity became a renown religion at the COUNCIL OF CHALCEDON 451A.D.

4,The first christian church was called HAGIA DE SOPHIA built by a man with the name JUSTINIAN and his wife Dieudora in Constantinople Turkey in the yr.532 A.d. and was finished 5 yrs latter in 537A.D.

5,The MOORS OR THE SUFI PEOPLE came into Europe in 700AD.and introduce Sufism which latter became ISLAM AND JUDIASM.

6,MOSES MARMONIDES born in 1040 AD in France A MOOR wrote the first five book of MOSES in 1080AD and finished in 1100AD.This books were name after him as the protocols for transacting business between the BARONS OR MOORS AND THE LAMBARD.The TEMPLAR CRUSADE OF 1096 robbed the MOORS from their financial power in EUROPE.

7,In 1437 the European first movable printing press.by JOHANNES GUTENBERG was created.

8,The first BIBILE ON EARTH WAS PRINTED IN 1475.THE OLD TESTAMENT which contains the first 5 book of MOSES created for the christian (Germanic people).

9,1516 the first new testament bible was formulated by DESIDERIUS ERASMUS commission by POPE ALEXANDRA IN 1500.It took Erasmus an homosegxwal and European play writer EX Vatican priest 16yrs.to complete this book and he name it 'NOUVEAU INSTRUMENTUM'.In 1519 the name was change to NOUVEAU TESTAMENTUM.Is book contains the 3 chapter of MATHEW,MARK AND LOOK and he latter added in 1519 another 6 books mainly 1 and 2 peter.1 and 2 Conrithians.Galatians and Efficians.In total as of 1519 the nouvea testamentum only contains 9 books writing by ERASMUS.

10,IN 1527 the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT WAS MADE 1 BOOK BY JACOB VAN LIESVELDT.A Swedish theologian

1I,The COUNCIL OF TRENT in the 15 centuries coronate THE POPE AS GOD THE FATHER no more the son as it first began with Constantine.

12,MARTIN LUTHER in 1535 wrote his own version of the bible aided by a French man called SAINT NICOLAAS LYCEUM..

13.1611 THE KING JAMES VERSION was put together by a group of theologians led by WILLIAM SHAKE SPEAR AND HIS HOMOsegxwal LOVER LANSCHOT ANDREW,Financed by KING JAMES AND THE LAMBARD OR JEWS....The fought GOSPEL OF JOHN AND OTHER BOOKS AS THE REVELATIONS WHERE ADDED INTO THE NEW TESTAMENT.AND JESUS WAS CALLED A JEW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HUMAN HISTORY through a cunning idea to please the Lambards or Templars and till date this family still control the world financial monetary system...

To be continue..

@Pako, why is it such a big job to ask these sheeples to compare notes of history. The bible and western culture on one hand, the Walls of Egypt and African culture on the other hand. is it too much to ask?

The acceptance of going to learn european trade, building big brick houses, driving luxury cars, making profit, securing future with BIG bank balances, seems to be the preference of my peoples. Little do they know that the system they practise will always depend on a high proportion of the peoples living in absolute poverty to create the financial stability for the few. Are they blind? Is an adult at 50 now going to start learning what he should have been part of his/her childhood wisdom? I am really baffled here..... will take a likle nap and continue in earnest. I need not worry about your input, you are a mind reader. At least the evidence exists. I can imagine, telling them all these and they seeing all the evidence, a typical xtian will come with that classic statement "Satan put them there to test their faith in God"........hahahahahaha!!!
Posted: at 23-09-2010 03:23 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Ozie267 at 23-09-2010 08:54 AM (13 years ago)
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An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new Muslim students to stand and.....

Professor : You are a Muslim, aren't you?

Student : Yes, sir.

Prof : So you believe in God?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Prof : Is God good?

Student : Sure.

Prof : Is God all-powerful?

Student : Yes.

Prof : My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?

(Student is silent.)

Prof : You can't answer, can you? Let's start a gain, young fella. Is God good?

Student :Yes.

Prof : Is Satan good?

Student : No.

Prof : Where does Satan come from?

Student : From...God...

Prof : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Prof : Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Prof : So who created evil?

(Student does not answer.)

Prof : Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

Student :Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

(Student has no answer.)

Prof : Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the
world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student : No, sir.

Prof : Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student : No , sir.

Prof : Have you ever felt y our God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof : Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Prof : According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof : Yes. Fait h. And that is the problem science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof : Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof : Yes.

Student : No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof : Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof : So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof : Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite,
something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and
magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof : If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, st able, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Prof : I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir.. The link between man & God is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive
Posted: at 23-09-2010 08:54 AM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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