Women's Submission Vs Men's Love (Page 16)

Date: 15-03-2011 12:39 pm (11 years ago) | Author: Obiajunwa
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- sobeit at 16-03-2011 12:13 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: divineproject on 16-03-2011 11:57 AM
Quote from: simele on 16-03-2011 11:40 AM
what if u have babies for him and he has not married you properly yet

Abeg anyone with an answer to this my guy question?..............
if you live in the same roof,YES!!! you should submit to Him,cuz you guys already have a bound which is that child.the different between you and married couple is to make it official..as Mr and Mrs A.
Posted: at 16-03-2011 12:13 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- divineproject at 16-03-2011 12:25 PM (11 years ago)
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Question answered................heaving a sigh of relief.............hmmmmmmmm

Posted: at 16-03-2011 12:25 PM (11 years ago) | Hero
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- Abby at 16-03-2011 12:49 PM (11 years ago)
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@  truenaija2  I think we are a little confused about what submission is. My idea of submission, in this context, is that when you submit to someone you give them power/total control over you, you accept that you are inferior to them, the person you submit to has the last say, is in control... and the rest of it. I sure we are on the same page about that, its pretty much what the bible implies by the husband is the head, he is above you as god is above him and the rest.
"like him keeping a wild dog in the house or a snake then u say sorry my kids r nott saved we have to remove the dog if he says no then u say i will get someone to remove it if he doesnt wnatit then u say i move out with my kids till the dogs r removed he will personally take it away or anything thta will endanger ur childrens future or u urself" This is not submission, you are in control. You are giving him conditions to make him do what you want and if he agrees we can say that he submitted to you. If you are in total submission to your husband according to the word of the bible if he says " the only place available for my python is in our one month old daughters room" all you need to say is "yes my lord" the same way that your husband is to say yes to god in every situation.  You know that, obey your husband it in the bible, but we like to twist words in real life situations and still act holy. Where is common sense? We like use with without understanding the the meaning and when we do its " oh that was in those  days things have changes" or "thats not what the bible means"...  we that bits and twist it to suit us, if you want to submit, submit 100%
Its the same way that we play with the idea of  freewill and submission to god. Anyone that can think and allows them self to think knows that you can not have freewill and be submitted to something.

@ Zilly  I am not disagreeing with you about what the scripture says, I just don't agree with it. No, I did not grow up abroad and I grew up a christian, went to church regularly not only on sunday; weekdays, went to vigils, concerts, church event... been in various church department, I was very active in church as a teenager even up to about two years ago, don't conclude on what you don't know.  If I get married and my husband changes and become abusive in any way, emotionally, physically... and we can not work it out or settle things after I have exhausted my option  I will not hesitate to get a divorce. I'm not going to go into you last paragraph although I disagree, how you want to live your life is your business
Posted: at 16-03-2011 12:49 PM (11 years ago) | Upcoming
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- mary123 at 16-03-2011 12:51 PM (11 years ago)
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 A woman should submit Absolutely, But that will not come ontill the owner of the house or the woman obey the the word of GOd that say's L O V E YUR WIFE.... as jesus love the the church and gave himeself for it ( HE GIVE UP HIS LIFE) that is total love she is yu in a woman form... then if yu agree with God who say's fristly love yur wife then later say's to the woman submit
evrything to him, yu the man will help the woman with the foiiowing...

Love yur wife. HOW?
love cover_show understand and maturity in times of crises and in the face of her obvious mistakes and shortcomings. Don't expert perferction _ except yu're perfect yurself.
 
Love give_ emotional needs proverbs 21:19 describes a woman who amotional need are not met as a "countions an angry woman" the bible said it's better to dwell in the willderness than with such a woman. Her financial  obligations must be meet(I Timothy 5 :Cool but if any provide not for his own, he hath denied the fath, and is worse tha an infidel.

Love care_ yur wife health and physical welfare are yur responsibilty.(Ephensians 5:28_ 29? dont be miserly and tight fistef! Always make good food other things available for her noourishment and good health Dont wait till yur wife falls sick or breaks down befor yu start spending money on her. Woman are nuturally romantic_ very1 It relaxes them, it speak volumes to them A! A hug, kiss, a peck, a wink of eye; holding her hand in public; constant eye contant with a " knowing smile" all the gualifly romance and communication of the heart. _ SEX is legal free only in marrriage  WEe are told in ( Genesis 4:1_2 that adam had segxwal relationship with his wife yur wife body belongs to yu, so make the most of it for yur own pleasure. The thing she doesnt know, teach her (I Corinthian 7; 25) NO PERVERSION, THOUGH1 Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley SATIFY YUR WIFE segxwalLY MAKE HER SEX _WORTHY TO YU.

Love protects_protects yur wife spritually, pray for her Jesus does it aways for his church,

Love defend_A man greatest treasure is his wife, ( proverb 18:22say's will cant be smarter God . she should be defend fom the in_law trouble, which must come one way or the other. or fom any from evern from her own father house .

Love does not seek it's own_ Dont allow yur wife to be seif made woman. make her become a product of the stuff yu're made of a reflection of yur strength and endoments(spiritual. mental, financial .  be in terested in things in the things that means so much to yur wife _even if donesnt really appeal to yu , yu want a happy, willing  and ready submit wife in bed later! NO bitterness(colossians 3:19 Than tell me with aii this yur wife will not be submissive NO WAY SHE BE ROOLINNG ON THE GRAND FOR YU FOR EVERMOVE. After all submission to her husand is for own goodness Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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- sobeit at 16-03-2011 12:54 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: divineproject on 16-03-2011 12:25 PM
Question answered................heaving a sigh of relief.............hmmmmmmmm
lol why the hmmmm at the end?  Cheesy
Posted: at 16-03-2011 12:54 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- divineproject at 16-03-2011 12:57 PM (11 years ago)
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Thats the sigh of relief na.......

Posted: at 16-03-2011 12:57 PM (11 years ago) | Hero
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- truenaija2 at 16-03-2011 01:13 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: Abby on 16-03-2011 12:49 PM
@  truenaija2  I think we are a little confused about what submission is. My idea of submission, in this context, is that when you submit to someone you give them power/total control over you, you accept that you are inferior to them, the person you submit to has the last say, is in control... and the rest of it. I sure we are on the same page about that, its pretty much what the bible implies by the husband is the head, he is above you as god is above him and the rest.
"like him keeping a wild dog in the house or a snake then u say sorry my kids r nott saved we have to remove the dog if he says no then u say i will get someone to remove it if he doesnt wnatit then u say i move out with my kids till the dogs r removed he will personally take it away or anything thta will endanger ur childrens future or u urself" This is not submission, you are in control. You are giving him conditions to make him do what you want and if he agrees we can say that he submitted to you. If you are in total submission to your husband according to the word of the bible if he says " the only place available for my python is in our one month old daughters room" all you need to say is "yes my lord" the same way that your husband is to say yes to god in every situation.  You know that, obey your husband it in the bible, but we like to twist words in real life situations and still act holy. Where is common sense? We like use with without understanding the the meaning and when we do its " oh that was in those  days things have changes" or "thats not what the bible means"...  we that bits and twist it to suit us, if you want to submit, submit 100%
Its the same way that we play with the idea of  freewill and submission to god. Anyone that can think and allows them self to think knows that you can not have freewill and be submitted to something.

@ Zilly  I am not disagreeing with you about what the scripture says, I just don't agree with it. No, I did not grow up abroad and I grew up a christian, went to church regularly not only on sunday; weekdays, went to vigils, concerts, church event... been in various church department, I was very active in church as a teenager even up to about two years ago, don't conclude on what you don't know.  If I get married and my husband changes and become abusive in any way, emotionally, physically... and we can not work it out or settle things after I have exhausted my option  I will not hesitate to get a divorce. I'm not going to go into you last paragraph although I disagree, how you want to live your life is your business


nonono no  abby dats not wat d bible means the bible means the man i sthe head like a leader, helping us in the way we should go u r  u r no inferior u r d neck his assistance, his helper who is there to  help him when he cant do something like the assistance represents the head when the head cant go somewhere and u r partners cos the bible says two shall become one , u bring opinions he brings opinions two heads r better than one that way u come up with a successful idea , GOD IS THE ONLY OVERALL BOSS WHO U SHOULD SUBMIT EVERYTHING TO that means if the boss in charge is doing somethning wrong that is not in accordance to any of the laws or will of GOD u as the assistance should b his touchlight to help him see it and talk to him in like a partner in a respectful manner about wht is wrong abt it u r not obliged to do anything against the overall boss den ur submission becomes foolishness which you must pay account for on the judgement day it becomes sin thats y u r der to help in in discussing in prayers in fasting, and the bible says those that must serve GOD MUST not may not shall not if they like but MUST serve him in spirit and inb truth in prayer and  in accordance to the bible cos the bible is truth and in sincererity, and he said YE SHALL WORSHIP ONLY THE LORD YOUR GOD AND ONLY HIM SHALL YE SERVE so nybody you worship is an idol so u commit idolatery u r to worship only GOD tht means if anything is going wrong and not in accordance with the word of GOD it is your duty to point it out and to take it to GOD in prayer if your talking with him didnt help , i wish u understand Wink
Posted: at 16-03-2011 01:13 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- truenaija2 at 16-03-2011 01:15 PM (11 years ago)
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@ABBY i have answered ur question i hope u understand but the things of the bible r spiritual so u need GODS help always to do things right
Posted: at 16-03-2011 01:15 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- stanbutto at 16-03-2011 01:18 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: FlyMamacita on 15-03-2011 04:05 PM
Quote from: truenaija2 on 15-03-2011 03:50 PM
Quote from: FlyMamacita on 15-03-2011 03:48 PM
Quote from: sweetmother on 15-03-2011 03:42 PM
Maybe its time , men start being submissive to their women, since its a modern world,we live in 2011, not stone age.

crase dey worry u.... u wan make a new edition of d Bible too ? abeg ooo


@flymamcita dat woman has grown up children ooh its not right to talk to a woman of her age like tht ooh
am sorry but i am not takin it back.... it is bcos of thoughts like dat d world is standin upside down



now u are talking in a way that i should love u.
the so called civilization are turning the world upside down. making thing worst.
that's why there's increase in divorce in the western world. that dont concern me though, my concern  is that our lovely and obedient wives are taking their ways. and our society is turning into shit. why will any person be talking abt 50/50 or 20/20 or whatever? how can a relationship measure in percent work?
a man needs to love the wife completing and the wife completely submissive .
submissiveness dont mean weakness on the side of the woman. they said the timidness of a tiger does portray coward.
sometimes is just to make a r/ship or marriage work.
amarachal ahara bu uto enyi na enyi ya
Posted: at 16-03-2011 01:18 PM (11 years ago) | Upcoming
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- Abby at 16-03-2011 02:12 PM (11 years ago)
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@ truenaija2
lol so you went for the classic "thats not what the bible means"... ok I don't know what you think it means to be a lesser vessel to me it means inferior. Also if its god, husband then wife and you know you are inferior to god, then you are inferior to you husband. stop playing with words.

"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16)

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

"Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go." (Judges 19:24-25)

"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

"If she go not as thou wouldest have her, cut her off from thy flesh, and give her a bill of divorce, and let her go." (Eccles. 25: 26)
"Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman." (Eccles. 25:13)
"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (Eccles. 25:22)
... and thats not everything


The bible has put it in so many ways that women are inferior to men, I don't read that stuff anymore you do, what don't you understand? You can not be that same as someone who rules over you.
On the issue of 50/50 if , as we have seen, the woman is inferior to the man... it can't be 50/50 then  maybe 75/25 or 90/10 even, whatever the man says after-all he rules over you.
I'm not a christian, if you dont get that already.
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- truenaija2 at 16-03-2011 02:34 PM (11 years ago)
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@ABBY did JESUS die for only men ?he said we r joint heirs of the kingdom of GOD , GOD is a just GOD in the beginning the bible says eve gave the fruit to ADAM GOD didnt say bcos eve gave the fruit TO ADAM ; he is free of punishment and is allowed to remain in the garden of eden and GOD didnt say cos u r a man i wont give u any punishment ,, he gave adam, eve and the serpent all thier punishment GOD is no respecter of person, he wont say cos u r woman when u  pray i wont answer , he is a just GOD the bible of the old testament alot have been refined to understand the bible u need to pray to GOD for enlightenment the bible is no novel it is spiritual, GOD is GOD GOD is not man only humans descriminate GOD DOESNT d laws r meant for our own good NOT for GOD; THE NEW testament preaches love and peace , dats y we r christians and not jews or muslims, only GOD is to b served and worship not a human even ur husband u should submit to him in everything in accordance to the will and law of GOD anything u do dat is not in accordance to the law of GOD in the name of submission is sin , ur husband is ur husband and not your GOD u have to know the difference and thats only if u read ur bible and pray to GOD to teach u his ways and direct your path, u should respect and submit to ur husband for peace sake but not worsiping your husband in the place of GOD he said i hate  idolatery , thou shalt not serve anyother GOD besides me, and if u really want to understand the bible then u have to pray to GOD for his grace to understand his words and his ways i give GOD the glory dat i am one of the few dat really understand the word of GOD its not by might  but by his spirit says the LORD
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- trolling at 16-03-2011 02:58 PM (11 years ago)
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Y'ALL CAN SAY WHATEVER Y'ALL WANNA SAY, IT IS A MAN'S WORLD, LOVE IT OR HATE, AND YES THE WOMAN HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE EQUAL TO A MAN, EVE MET ME IN THIS WORLD, ADAM HAD BEEN IN THE GARDEN FOR MANY YEARS BEFORE EVE WAS TAKEN OUT OF HIM.YOU WOMEN THAT KEEP DISRESPECTING US MEN,YOUR HAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU.
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- divineproject at 16-03-2011 03:02 PM (11 years ago)
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Respect is earned and should be reciprocated............you dont expect to be respected when u dont even respect yourself or simply becos you got a 3rd leg...........

Posted: at 16-03-2011 03:02 PM (11 years ago) | Hero
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- sophiebaby at 16-03-2011 03:05 PM (11 years ago)
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if only the man is responsible.. and needs my submission

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- truenaija2 at 16-03-2011 03:34 PM (11 years ago)
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well i am here again to abbys comment so if your husband says kill these person for cos the bible says u should submit to me should u do that, or if your dad says daughter come and have sex with me cos the bible says u should obey your parents should u do that, or because the bible says ye shall tread upon snakes and scorpions and over the power of the enemies and they shall by no means hurt u , will u go and match a snake it will bite u and u will go to hell for being foolish , y was Jesus always running from the pharisees , u think it was stupidity or why didnt he turn stone to bread, or why did the three hebrew children didnt respect the king when he asked them to bow to idol and were thrown into fire and came out not harmed , people need to stop reading the bible like a novel ask for GODS guidance enlightenment and help before reading the bible its a lovely book only if u understand it
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- truenaija2 at 16-03-2011 03:52 PM (11 years ago)
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in genesis 2 vs 18 this was GODS idea and reason of creating the woman,´´ for the LORD GOD said it is not good for man to be alone ; iwill make him a helper suitable for him, what is suitable someone thta will compliment him not an inferior , what is helper an assistance , help is a good word when i am incapable or helpless the person is there , AND these were made for each other and without a woman will the world multiply and increase and without a man will there be multiplication of humans will there be me and u  , no these two cant do without each other non is superior or inferior we r all equal in the eyes of GOD, we all have our importance and duties, GOD is the only one that is perfect and superior
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- trolling at 16-03-2011 04:08 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: truenaija2 on 16-03-2011 03:52 PM
in genesis 2 vs 18 this was GODS idea and reason of creating the woman,´´ for the LORD GOD said it is not good for man to be alone ; iwill make him a helper suitable for him, what is suitable someone thta will compliment him not an inferior , what is helper an assistance , help is a good word when i am incapable or helpless the person is there , AND these were made for each other and without a woman will the world multiply and increase and without a man will there be multiplication of humans will there be me and u  , no these two cant do without each other non is superior or inferior we r all equal in the eyes of GOD, we all have our importance and duties, GOD is the only one that is perfect and superior
if we are both equal why do we have a men's court in the temple and a women's court, (that is if you know about the temple structure) why dont they sit side by side, why didn't He tell the women to sacrifice unto him at the altar,why arent women in the priesthood, why was she taken out of a man,why wasn't she created from the dust as Adam was,why was Adam and Eve not created on the same day,why did He command the woman's desire to the man, why is it that the women are prohibited from the temple during their period,why didnt Rebecca intreat Yah for a child when she was barren,why didnt she do it, why did Paul say "the woman for the man and not the man for the women? Make you answer my question.. mrs equal.I know you like to strive with my words but I know that I don't wrestle with flesh and blood.
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- truenaija2 at 16-03-2011 04:10 PM (11 years ago)
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@trolling why didnt all the men go into the holies of the holies? as u dey ask me question
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- truenaija2 at 16-03-2011 04:12 PM (11 years ago)
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AS U r superioir why must u be born of a woman why were u not extra created or drop from heaven
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- trolling at 16-03-2011 04:15 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: truenaija2 on 16-03-2011 04:10 PM
@trolling why didnt all the men go into the holies of the holies? as u dey ask me question
what are you talking about? so who went into the holies of the holies? na woman?, even in the millenial kingdom women will not be allowed in the inner court, how do you me like now?
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