The Hajj is purely of pagan origin…according to The Hadith..

Date: 24-06-2011 7:06 pm (10 years ago) | Author: Onyike Onyekaraka
- at 24-06-2011 07:06 PM (10 years ago)
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...(The Hadith are the compilation or records of the actions of Muhammad and the companions of the Prophet. It’s the second most important source of authority for Islamic beliefs and practices. The Hadith interpret the Qur'an.)...

...what our so called Muslim Scholars...that believe Islam is the purest religion do not know that the inventor of Islam was Pharoah Akhenaten and not Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdullah…also that all their rituals of the Hajj…the pilgrimage to Mecca…where they circle the black stone 7 times…throw stones at the pillars of Mena...etc.) are of purely pagan origin....

It’s well documented in The Hadith on the history of the Hajj which is not only pagan oriented…but predates Muhammad. He…Muhammad adopted these pagan practices and assigned them new meanings.

1. The hadith verse:
"We used to consider (i.e. going around) them a [pagan] custom of the Pre-islamic period of Ignorance, so when Islam came, we gave up going around them. Then Allah revealed" "Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca) are among the Symbols of Allah. So it is not harmful of those who perform the Hajj of the House (of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate (Tawaf) between them." (2.158) (Hadith, al-Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 22-23)

2. Another Hadith verse:
Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf  between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " Narrated Ibn Abbas: Allah's Apostle performed Tawaf of the Ka'ba and the Sa'i of Safa and Marwa so as to show his strength to the pagans. (Hadith, al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710-711)

Posted: at 24-06-2011 07:06 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
- chik001 at 26-06-2011 09:27 PM (10 years ago)
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...Islamic scholars has gone into hiding...they don't read their Koran with The Hadith... Roll Eyes Tongue
Posted: at 26-06-2011 09:27 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- cadanre at 28-06-2011 08:32 PM (10 years ago)
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Let us start by digging down to the real origin of Hajj for those who do not know and are wanting to say something.

Hajj literally means 'to set out for a place'. Islamically however it refers to the annual pilgrimage that Muslims make to Makkah with the intention of performing certain religious rites in accordance with the method prescribed by the Prophet Muhammad.

Hajj and its rites were first ordained by Allah in the time of the Prophet lbrahim [Abraham] and he was the one who was entrusted by Allah to build the Kaba - the House of Allah - along with his son Ismail [Ishmael] at Makkah. Allah described the Kaba and its building as follows:

"And remember when We showed Ibrahim the site of the [Sacred] House [saying]: Associate not anything [in worship with Me and purify My House for those who circumambulate it [i.e. perform tawaaf] and those who stand up for prayer and those who bow down and make prostration [in prayer etc.]."
[Surah Al-Hajj 22:26]



During the Hajj period itself, the atmosphere around the sacred precincts of the Kaba was like a circus. Men and women would go round the Kaba naked, arguing that they should present themselves before Allah in the same condition they were born. Their prayer became devoid of all sincere remembrance of Allah and was instead reduced to a series of hand clapping, whistling and the blowing of horns. Even the talbiah was distorted by them with the following additions: 'No one is Your partner except one who is permitted by you. You are his Master and the Master of what he possesses'.

Sacrifices were also made in the name of God. However, the blood of the sacrificed animals was poured onto the walls of the Kaba and the flesh was hung from pillars around the Kaba, in the belief that Allah demanded the flesh and blood of these animals.

Singing, drinking, adultery and other acts of immorality was rife amongst the pilgrims and the poetry competitions, which were held, were a major part of the whole Hajj event. In these competitions, poets would praise the bravery and splendor of their own tribesmen and tell exaggerated tales of the cowardice and miserliness of other tribes. Competitions in generosity were also staged where the chief of each tribe would set up huge cauldrons and feed the pilgrims, only so that they could become well-known for their extreme generosity.

Thus the people had totally abandoned the teachings of their forefather and leader Prophet Ibrahim. The House that he had made pure for the worship of Allah alone, had been totally desecrated by the pagans and the rites which he had established were completely distorted by them. This sad state of affairs continued for nearly two and a half thousand years. But then after this long period, the time came for the supplication of Prophet Ibrahim to be answered:

    "Our Lord! Send amongst them a Messenger of their own, who shall recite unto them your aayaat (verses) and instruct them in the book and the Wisdom and sanctify them. Verily you are the 'Azeezul-Hakeem [the All-Mighty, the All-Wise]."
    [Surah Al-Baqarah 2:129]


Sure enough, a man by the name of Muhammad ibn 'Abdullaah was born in the very city that Prophet Ibrahim had made this supplication centuries earlier. For twenty-three years, Prophet Muhammad spread the message of Tawheed [true monotheism] - the same message that Prophet Ibrahim and all the other Prophets came with - and established the law of Allah upon the land. He expended every effort into making the word of Allah supreme and his victory over falsehood culminated in the smashing of the idols inside the Kaba which once again became the universal center for the worshippers of the one True God.

Not only did the Prophet rid the Kaba of all its impurities, but he also reinstated all the rites of Hajj which were established by Allah's Permission, in the time of Prophet Ibrahim. Specific injunctions in the Quran were revealed in order to eliminate all the false rites which had become rampant in the pre-Islamic period. All indecent and shameful acts were strictly banned in Allah's statement:

    "There is to be no lewdness nor wrangles during Hajj." [Surah al-Baqarah 2:197]


Competitions among poets in the exaltations of their forefathers and their tribesmen's achievements were all stopped. Instead, Allah told them:

    "And when you have completed your rites [of Hajj] then remember Allah as you remember your forefathers; nay with a more vigorous remembrance."
    [Surah al-Baqarah 2:200]


Competitions in generosity were also prohibited. Of course, the feeding of the poor pilgrims was still encouraged as this was done during the time of Prophet Ibrahim but Allah commanded that the slaughtering of the animals which was done for this purpose should be done seeking the pleasure of Allah rather than fame and the praise of the people. He said:

    "So mention the name of Allah over these animals when they are drawn up in lines. Then, when they are drawn on their sides [after the slaughter], eat thereof and feed the beggar who does not ask, and the beggar who asks."
    [Surah al-Hajj 22:36]


As for the deplorable practice of spattering blood of the sacrificed animals on the walls of the Kaba and hanging their flesh on alters, then Allah clearly informed them that:

    "It is neither their meat nor their blood that reaches Allah, but it is Taqwaa (piety) from you that reaches Him."
    [Surah al-Hajj 22:37]


The Prophet also put a stop to the practice of circling the Kaba in a state of nudity and the argument that the pagans put forward to justify this ritual was sharply rebutted in Allah's question:

    "Say: Who has forbidden the adornment [i.e. clothes] given by Allah which He has produced for His Slaves?"
    [Surah al-A'raaf 7:32]


Another custom which was prohibited through the Quran was that of setting off for Hajj without taking any provisions for the journey. In the pre-Islamic period, some people who claimed to be mutawakkiloon (those having complete trust in Allah) would travel to perform Hajj begging for food through the whole journey. They considered this form of behavior a sign of piety and an indication of how much faith they had in Allah. However Allah told mankind that to have sufficient provisions for the journey was one of the preconditions for making Hajj. He said:

    "And take a provision [with you] for the journey, but the best provision is at-Taqwaa (piety)."
    [Surah al-Baqarah 2:197]


In this way, all the pre-Islamic practices, which were based on ignorance, were abolished and Hajj was once more made a model of piety, fear of Allah, purity, simplicity and austerity. Now, when the pilgrims reach the Kaba, they no longer find the carnivals and the frolic and frivolity that had once occupied the minds of the pilgrims there before. Now, there is the remembrance of Allah at every step and every action and every sacrifice was devoted to Him alone. It was this kind of Hajj that was worthy of the reward of paradise, as the Prophet said:

 "The reward for an accepted Hajj is nothing less than paradise."

Read for yourself chik0000000000000000000000001. Read and find the ROOTS of Hajj and also many verses of Qur'an who talked about it. I hope one can bring such while trying to defend his...............

Posted: at 28-06-2011 08:32 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- haramain at 30-06-2011 06:45 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 24-06-2011 07:06 PM
...(The Hadith are the compilation or records of the actions of Muhammad and the companions of the Prophet. It’s the second most important source of authority for Islamic beliefs and practices. The Hadith interpret the Qur'an.)...

...what our so called Muslim Scholars...that believe Islam is the purest religion do not know that the inventor of Islam was Pharoah Akhenaten and not Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdullah…also that all their rituals of the Hajj…the pilgrimage to Mecca…where they circle the black stone 7 times…throw stones at the pillars of Mena...etc.) are of purely pagan origin....

It’s well documented in The Hadith on the history of the Hajj which is not only pagan oriented…but predates Muhammad. He…Muhammad adopted these pagan practices and assigned them new meanings.

1. The hadith verse:
"We used to consider (i.e. going around) them a [pagan] custom of the Pre-islamic period of Ignorance, so when Islam came, we gave up going around them. Then Allah revealed" "Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca) are among the Symbols of Allah. So it is not harmful of those who perform the Hajj of the House (of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate (Tawaf) between them." (2.158) (Hadith, al-Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 22-23)

2. Another Hadith verse:
Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf  between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " Narrated Ibn Abbas: Allah's Apostle performed Tawaf of the Ka'ba and the Sa'i of Safa and Marwa so as to show his strength to the pagans. (Hadith, al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710-711)


GOD WILL TARNISHED YOU AS MUCH AS YOU ARE TRYING TO TARNISH THE ISLAM AND THE MUSLIMS
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- chik001 at 1-07-2011 04:34 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: haramain on 30-06-2011 06:45 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 24-06-2011 07:06 PM
...(The Hadith are the compilation or records of the actions of Muhammad and the companions of the Prophet. It’s the second most important source of authority for Islamic beliefs and practices. The Hadith interpret the Qur'an.)...

...what our so called Muslim Scholars...that believe Islam is the purest religion do not know that the inventor of Islam was Pharoah Akhenaten and not Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdullah…also that all their rituals of the Hajj…the pilgrimage to Mecca…where they circle the black stone 7 times…throw stones at the pillars of Mena...etc.) are of purely pagan origin....

It’s well documented in The Hadith on the history of the Hajj which is not only pagan oriented…but predates Muhammad. He…Muhammad adopted these pagan practices and assigned them new meanings.

1. The hadith verse:
"We used to consider (i.e. going around) them a [pagan] custom of the Pre-islamic period of Ignorance, so when Islam came, we gave up going around them. Then Allah revealed" "Verily, Safa and Marwa (i.e. two mountains at Mecca) are among the Symbols of Allah. So it is not harmful of those who perform the Hajj of the House (of Allah) or perform the Umra to ambulate (Tawaf) between them." (2.158) (Hadith, al-Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 22-23)

2. Another Hadith verse:
Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf  between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " Narrated Ibn Abbas: Allah's Apostle performed Tawaf of the Ka'ba and the Sa'i of Safa and Marwa so as to show his strength to the pagans. (Hadith, al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710-711)


GOD WILL TARNISHED YOU AS MUCH AS YOU ARE TRYING TO TARNISH THE ISLAM AND THE MUSLIMS

...another dogmatic and uncivilized Islamic scholar
Posted: at 1-07-2011 04:34 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 1-07-2011 04:52 PM (10 years ago)
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...all the verses you posted did not proof anything contrary to The Hajj being a pagan ritual before Mohammad…
You Muslims claim that these rituals were practiced by Adam...Noah and Abraham before Mohammad came...this is nothing but pure myth (as The Koran is a book of myth)...this is totally unsupported by history...
In fact...the Hajj is documented in history as being solely of Arab pagan origin. The Ka’aba was dedicated to al-Ilah...the High God of the pagan Arabs...despite the presiding effigy of Hubal. By the beginning of the seventh century...al-Ilah had become more important than before in the religious life many of the Arabs...so is many rituals performed in the name of Allah were connected with the pagan worship that existed before Islam…
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- cadanre at 1-07-2011 05:29 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  1-07-2011 04:52 PM
...all the verses you posted did not proof anything contrary to The Hajj being a pagan ritual before Mohammad…
You Muslims claim that these rituals were practiced by Adam...Noah and Abraham before Mohammad came...this is nothing but pure myth (as The Koran is a book of myth)...this is totally unsupported by history...
In fact...the Hajj is documented in history as being solely of Arab pagan origin. The Ka’aba was dedicated to al-Ilah...the High God of the pagan Arabs...despite the presiding effigy of Hubal. By the beginning of the seventh century...al-Ilah had become more important than before in the religious life many of the Arabs...so is many rituals performed in the name of Allah were connected with the pagan worship that existed before Islam…


YOU HAVE THE HABIT OF SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE CONTRADICTING THEMSELVES, BUT YOU APPEARS TO BE THE FATHER OF ALL.

You always made empty or even less than empty comments demanding people to respond. When we fully respond backing our responses with verses from the Qur'an and Hadiths, you say it is a lie. But, you use the same Verses and Hadith to criticize. I wonder what type of scholar you are. Remember I am not trying to convince you, but trying to tell you that WE KNOW WHY WE ARE DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE KNOW ITS ORIGIN AND WE HAVE IT IN THE QUR'AN AND HADITH, NOT HIJACKING IT FROM PAGANS AND FORCEABLY CONVERTING IT TO YOUR (MOST IMPORTANT RELIGIOUS PRACTICE).

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- chik001 at 2-07-2011 05:16 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on  1-07-2011 05:29 PM
Quote from: chik001 on  1-07-2011 04:52 PM
...all the verses you posted did not proof anything contrary to The Hajj being a pagan ritual before Mohammad…
You Muslims claim that these rituals were practiced by Adam...Noah and Abraham before Mohammad came...this is nothing but pure myth (as The Koran is a book of myth)...this is totally unsupported by history...
In fact...the Hajj is documented in history as being solely of Arab pagan origin. The Ka’aba was dedicated to al-Ilah...the High God of the pagan Arabs...despite the presiding effigy of Hubal. By the beginning of the seventh century...al-Ilah had become more important than before in the religious life many of the Arabs...so is many rituals performed in the name of Allah were connected with the pagan worship that existed before Islam…


YOU HAVE THE HABIT OF SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE CONTRADICTING THEMSELVES, BUT YOU APPEARS TO BE THE FATHER OF ALL.

You always made empty or even less than empty comments demanding people to respond. When we fully respond backing our responses with verses from the Qur'an and Hadiths, you say it is a lie. But, you use the same Verses and Hadith to criticize. I wonder what type of scholar you are. Remember I am not trying to convince you, but trying to tell you that WE KNOW WHY WE ARE DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE KNOW ITS ORIGIN AND WE HAVE IT IN THE QUR'AN AND HADITH, NOT HIJACKING IT FROM PAGANS AND FORCEABLY CONVERTING IT TO YOUR (MOST IMPORTANT RELIGIOUS PRACTICE).

...cool down...no vex...
...dey no dey use vex dey follow God business...na business of the meek and humble...
...am only saying that...The pagans had been performing the ritual you now call The Hajj long before Mohammad copied or borrowed it (like he or Abu bakar did with the entire Koran)...Its there in the first Hadith I posted...!...shiknah
Posted: at 2-07-2011 05:16 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- haramain at 5-07-2011 04:08 PM (10 years ago)
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qul huwa ALLAH ahad. ALLAHU al- samad. lam yelid wa lam yuwlad , wa lam yakun lahu kufuha ahad.
sadaqa ALLAH al hazim
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- chik001 at 6-07-2011 05:52 PM (10 years ago)
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שהרי אלוהים לא נתן לנו רוח של פחד, אלא של כוח, של אהבה, של בדעה צלולה. 2 טימותי 01:07
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- cadanre at 9-07-2011 08:37 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  6-07-2011 05:52 PM

שהרי אלוהים לא נתן לנו רוח של פחד, אלא של כוח, של אהבה, של בדעה צלולה. 2 טימותי 01:07


Can you transliterate this?

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- haramain at 21-07-2011 04:39 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: haramain on  5-07-2011 04:08 PM
qul huwa ALLAH ahad. ALLAHU al- samad. lam yelid wa lam yuwlad , wa lam yakun lahu kufuha ahad.
sadaqa ALLAH al hazim
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