SHOCKING : HIV AIDS IS A SECRET WEAPON TO KILL AFRICANS (Page 5)

democrazy, you haven't countered the contents of this link yet.

Posted: at 17-02-2012 07:43 AM (12 years ago) | Upcoming

@PreciousA.........am really trying to control my laughter!! really? Ouch!!

So you know and both be reminded. I do read all links you give!!

It goes like this.

People are contracting a deadly disease called AIDS. How?

So we have a bunch of investigators to find out. Each has to come with substancial evidence!!

Am saying,

1) Your so reliable nature link and the other that stated debunking Edward Hooper where both answered by my link which replied to all their articles through the years and stated dates of their articles in 2000, 2001, and 2004 up till 2008 when the article was written. Please check dates of your references.
"September 2001. At the conference on "Origin of HIV", organised (again at Bill Hamilton's prompting) at the oldest scientific institute in the world, the Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, in Rome, I have a somewhat heated discussion with that leading proponent of the bushmeat theory and of the molecular clock dating of HIV, Professor Paul Sharp, then of the University of Nottingham. He tells me that Michael Worobey has been to visit Bette Korber at the Los Alamos laboratory in New Mexico, and claims that Worobey now "agrees with us" about the dating of HIV. When I return to the UK, I phone Worobey and ask him where he actually stands. Worobey is angry with Sharp for speaking on his behalf, but he does concede that he has been to see Bette Korber and, rather ambivalently, that he is still making up his mind about the import of their conversations. I find the difference between his account and that of Sharp (who claims that Worobey has already made up his mind) rather interesting. Either someone is mistaken, or else someone is not telling the complete truth."
Just so you know!!

2) In my claim, and their explanations(all links) something is common, (a) That Caucasian labs where present in the Conco conducting experiments. (b) The time frame of the transfer of SIV from animals to human as HIV and the location corresponds with "a" the location of the specific experimental laboratory that subsequently vaccinated the locals.

Posted: at 17-02-2012 01:32 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Good heavens, democrazy, you really don't like having people pull apart your conspiracies, do you?



That's a rehash of
http://www.aidsorigins.com/content/view/214/63/

Could you explain what you meant by that bolded bit?
Except for the Bill Gates Rockefeller kinship claim.

Here's a link for you from2012
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/debunked-polio-vaccine-and-hiv-link



False rumours, yet again. Conspiracies always end up being based on false rumours. Like that Hitler's grandfather rumour.

I've heard this conspiracy theory about the origin of HIV many times over the years, usually by people who are in negation about the role of bush meat in the jump of the virus from primates to humans.
It's an ugly story, of course, but why turn your back on it?

It reminds me a lot of the people who think the 9/11 atack was a CIA hoax.

Posted: at 17-02-2012 06:15 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming

If they have no real evidence beyond baseless speculation and outright fabrication, then it's safe to call the conspiracists malicious liars or gullible dupes. If the hard evidence points towards the simpler conclusion and not the clumsy, implausible, and often contradictory lash-ups favoured by conspiracists, then the simpler conclusion wins every time.

Posted: at 17-02-2012 11:34 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac

(1) Cold Spring Harbor is the site of frequent gatherings of the scientific elite. In September of 1983, one hundred and fifteen virologists from around the world met there in secret sessions. Not one single word from that conference has ever been published, but according according to intelligence sources, the role of viruses was fully discussed in relation to biological warfare against the civilian population. It was stressed that an organism as simple as a virus could threaten the very existence of all human life on earth.
Here is the sketchy outline of what those virologists secretly shared with each other at Cold Spring Harbor in 1983:
HIV genetic information is filed in the form of ribonucleic acid (RNA), the opposite of most other organisms which have genetic material comprising deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA.) DNA carries the information, strung together like molecular beads, that is critical to the organism. Scientists were now finding out that molecules are made of matter, whose origin the proponents of the "big-bang" theory cannot explain; these molecules being the building blocks of the universe.
The sequence of molecular "beads" are then mirrored in plants and animals. The "mirrored" image is in fact RNA, and in it are the information codes needed to make proteins-the life-giving component of living organisms. The strings are then "beaded" with smaller molecules called amino acids. In this manner most organisms produce their own proteins, but this does not happen in the case of viruses, which are parasites and must have a host to live off.
At the Cold Spring Harbor conference, it was stated that viruses do not have a life-like bacteria; a virus is an incomplete cell, because its genetic material is incomplete and is covered by a hard shell of protein. Before a virus can "live," it has to latch onto and invade living cells. When it penetrates the host cell, it then comes alive and begins to replicate. In the case of the HIV virus, the replication process is extremely rapid.
AIDS-HIV viruses have RNA as their genetic material. By inserting its RNA into the host cell, the cell is deceived into stepping up its manufacture of viral proteins. Part of these proteins are the enzymes needed to synthethize more viral DNA. It is from this process that the term "Retro" (backward) was coined because the host cell is deceived, like the mother bird who feeds the baby cuckoo in her nest. The host cell is blinded into believing it must convert viral RNA from the invader virus back to DNA. Ordinarily the cell would make RNA from DNA, but here the process is reversed. This goes on until the cell "blooms" or "flowers" with its packed HIV parasites, and the component parts burst out into the bloodstream, infecting it with millions more HW viruses.
When the HIV virus and the healthy cell come together, the HIV receptor fuses with the membranes of the cell it is taking over. The enzyme released is known as a reverse transcriptase. This is unique to retroviruses and is totally absent in human cells. The viral RNA then enters and integrates itself in the DNA of the cell it has taken over. Once inside, the viral DNA becomes dormant, which is the period we know as the latency period. This latency period in AIDS is known to last up to ten years, but in the case of blacks and Hispanics, the HIV virus seems to have a far shorter latency period and acts in a more virulent manner toward the host cell. (Notice that they were discussing more than a decade ago that the HIV virus attacked blacks and Hispanics with greater frequency and more virulence than it attacked whites. Have you ever seen that information in the media?)
At some time during the latency period, the virus will be triggered. Russian scientists had apparently perfected a technique using electromagnetic signals on the same wavelength as the virus, which, when "radiated" by the signals, would spring to life. A viral "Manchurian Candidate," so to speak. More common causes are believed to be repeated occurrences of infections, such as of Hepatitus B or herpes, for example.
The manufacture of viral proteins and viral DNA -- the two main components of HIV -- is stimulated. Next comes the "flowering" or "budding." At this point, the victim will be at great risk and a danger to all who come into contact with him or her. With "budding," the HIV virus takes part of the outer fatty cell membrane and its glycoprotein (molecules of sugar) and swallows them up.
What's most diabolical about HIV is that it prefers to attack cells in human bodies assigned the task of protecting the body from any and all foreign invaders, the so-called T-4 cells.

(2) In addition to what we know, there is a great deal of informed speculation -- too much to ignore -- that Cold Spring Harbor labs are currently engaged in molecular research to develop a virus with even greater ability to infect people who have the most melanin in their skins. Black and "colored" skin has substantially more melanin than white skin. British microbiologists at the CAB research unit at Porton Downs are believed to have successfully developed a virus with a ninety percent selective capability. The means of "steering" the HIV viruses, or indeed any virus, to selected groups, is known to be one of the research programs being conducted at Cold Spring Harbor.
This suits the policies of the International Monetary Fund in forcing greatly lowered standards of living in certain poor countries, whose nationals have been classed as "defectives" by the Olympians. Remember this: most of these countries have valuable natural resources. With the IMF destroying the living standards of these "useless eaters," and a virus capable of attacking people based on the melanin in their skins, is it any wonder that Africa is today almost totally ravaged by AIDS?
The evidence is strong enough that AIDS was designed and engineered to specifically infect blacks that in February, 1989, Samuel Evans, Chairman of the National Council of Public Auditors, called upon the U.S. Senate to investigate ethnic-race specific biological warfare weapons. That means weapons aimed at the elimination of specific groups, including blacks and other nonwhite populations in the U.S..
Evans charged that Colonel David Huxoll, who at the time was commander of the U.S. Army Research Institute for Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland, was allocated $60 million for research into biological ethnic weapons. Evans was apparently aware that Fort Detrick is an important MDS research facility, because he raised the roof among black Congressmen and political activists. He further charged that Zaire was targeted by the U.S. for MDS epidemics and that twenty to thirty percent of Zaire's population became infected with the MDS virus as a result of that experiment.

(3) Sir Julian Huxley was Britain's foremost eugenicist of the post-WWII era, who in 1947 was the founder of the "population control" program of the United Nations. In 1951 Huxley consulted with John D. Rockefeller III, General Maxwell Taylor, William Draper and others, and by 1952, a "Population Control Council" was established. In 1966 the name was changed to "Population Crisis Committee." Since 1966, U.S. foreign policy has stressed the importance of "population control," as has the National Security Agency, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

The stage is all yours!!

Posted: at 19-02-2012 02:26 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac

That's clearly a cut and paste for the most part. Who are you quoting?

Posted: at 19-02-2012 05:31 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac

In that case, forget it. If you're going to be an A*#S, I'll consider you not worth the while, just like Kush_360. The degree of decorum on this forum is abysmal, and I'm fed up with it.

Posted: at 19-02-2012 07:33 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac

There is no point debating with boneheads and knuckledraggers. I'm not defeated; just sick of pointless exchanges with trolls.

Posted: at 19-02-2012 11:46 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac

now dont talk shit about slavery... what are you trying to say stupid ass cracker huh.

Posted: at 19-02-2012 02:29 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming

Evade questions, Kush? I've been answering them from day one, but when people keep shifting ground, shrugging off answers, and indulging in pointless barbs, then I think it's proof that they aren't interested in the truth.

Oh, and Precious is correct about slavery. It's not just 'whites' who kept slaves.

Posted: at 19-02-2012 08:55 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac