Exposing the Bible's books' and gospels' corruptions. 

     -  Exposing the New Testament.

     -  Exposing Paul.
     -  Exposing the Old Testament.
 So who wrote the Bible then?  Were they really the original Prophets and Disciples?
 The New Testament was written in the 4th century by Constantine and his council by their own words.
 The Roman Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the Bible had been "altered".
 Contradictions in historical claims and accounts. AND MANY MORE!

Below, you'll see that the Bible's books and gospels were:
1.   Written by mysterious men.
2.   Written by an unknown number of men.
3.   Written in unknown places.
4.   Written in unknown dates.
 
5.   Paul never even met Jesus Christ in person while the latter was on earth.  It is falsely claimed that Jesus appeared to Paul while Paul was on his way to Damascus after the "crucifixion" (Acts 9:2-4.  Note: Paul's name used to be Saul.  Yet, Paul admittedly wasn't even sure whether the Holy Spirit was inspirning him or not).
 
6.   None of the disciples, even in the false writings attributed to them, ever claimed that their writings were inspired or Divine.  Not only that, but we even ironically see that:
 
Luke for instance, wrote his "gospel" for the sake of another person and not GOD Almighty.  See below for details.

The disciples even fought with each others We read about direct invitations to dinner and other occasions between the disciples in the "books"

According to the commentaries below, all of the books of the bible were altered and corrupted.
 
 The Bible's own theologians even admit that the bible contains "fictions", its original manuscripts "had been lost", and contains "fairy tails and fables".

Exposing the Bible's books' and gospels' corruptions:

The Gospel of Matthew:
"The unknown author, whom we shall continue to call Matthew for the sake of convenience, drew no only up the Gospel according to Mark but upon a large body of material (principally, sayings of Jesus) not found in Mk that corresponds, sometimes exactly, to material found also in the Gospel according to Luke.  (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1008)"

"As for the place where the gospel was composed, a plausible suggestion is that it was Antioch, the capital of the Roman province of Syria.  (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1009)"

So we clearly see, both the author or authors and the place of composition of the "Gospel of Matthew" are unknown.
The Gospel of Mark:
Note:   This gospel is the oldest and supposedly the most original one in the New Testament!

"Although the book is anonymous, apart from the ancient heading "According to Mark" in manuscripts, it has traditionally been assigned to John Mark, in whose  mother's house (at Jerusalem) Christians assembled.  (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1064)"

"Although there is no direct internal evidence of authorship, it was the unanimous testimony of the early church that this Gospel was written by John Mark.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1488)"

We certainly do not know whether Mark was the author or not!  The quote clearly states "no direct internal evidence of authorship".  Also, the so-called unanimous testimony of the early church:

   
Does not prove that the author was Mark.
   

Nor does it prove that other people did not alter and modify the book, especially when the book was written at least 40-50 years after Christ.  We don't even know if Mark even wrote the book.

"Traditionally, the gospel is said to have been written shortly before A.D. 70 in Rome, at a time of impending persecution and when destruction loomed over Jerusalem.  (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1064)"

"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark.  They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark.  His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost.  (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes [1], page 1528)"

"This verse, which reads, "But if you do not forgive, neither will your heavenly Father forgive your transgressions," is omitted in the best manuscripts.  (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1081)"

"This passage, termed the Longer Ending to the Marcan gospel by comparison with a much briefer conclusion found in some less important manuscripts, has traditionally been accepted as a canonical part of the gospel and was defined as such by the Council of Trent.  Early citations of it by the Fathers indicate that it was composed by the second century, although vocabulary and style indicate that it was written by someone other than Mark.  (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1088)"

So, in reality, we don't really know whether Mark was the sole author of this Gospel or not, nor do we know when and where the "gospel" was even written.  And since The New Testament wasn't even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to) after Jesus, then how are we to know for sure that the current "Gospel of Mark" wasn't written by some pro of Mark?

Now my concern to this corruption and 'answer-the-problem-away' statement is that what are those so-called "reliable early manuscript(s)" and who are the "ancient witnesses"?

According to the early Christians' manuscripts, Jesus never got crucified, and trinity is a lie.  The so-called "gospel of Mark", along with all of the "gospels" of the NT, were written by third-party narration, as clearly demonstrated and shown in the sections below.   People wrote on the tongue of Jesus' Disciples those books.  They are neither original nor are the Pure Word of GOD Almighty.
If the "gospel of Mark" was indeed Divine and from GOD Almighty, then we wouldn't have this corruption, that they're admitting above, in it.

I hope you see the real danger in making these assumptions when you are willing to DIE for the fact that such Gospel is the actual True Word of GOD Almighty!
Further regarding this Gospel, we read the following commentary about Mark 16:9-20:
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark.  They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark.  His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost.  (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes [1], page 1528)"
This quote raises a very serious issue here.  First of all, as we've seen above in the first quote, we have no evidence that proves that John Mark was the sole author of this so called "Gospel".  Second of all, we see that this Gospel has some serious problems/suspicions in it.  The issue of Mark 16:9-20 is a scary one, because many Christian cults today use poisonous snakes in their worship and end up dying.   

Removing Mark 16:9-20 is quite appreciated by me personally (to be quite honest with you), because it prevents people from dying from snake bites.  But however, the serious issue of man's corruption of the Bible remains. 

We can be absolutely certain now that the above quotes prove without a doubt that the Bible is doubtful.  The quote "or its original ending has been lost" proves that what we call today "Gospels" were not written by their original authors such as Mark, John, Matthew, etc...  It proves that the Gospel had been tampered with by man.  Let alone considering it as the True Living Words of GOD Almighty. 

If John Mark wasn't the one who wrote Mark 16:9-20, then who did? And how can you prove the ownership of the other person? Let alone proving that it was GOD Almighty's Revelation.  And as we saw in the first quote above, we don't even know that John Mark was indeed the one who wrote the so called "Gospel of Mark".

To say the least in our case here, we now have enough evidence to discard the entire Gospel of Mark from the Bible, because you can't take bits and pieces of it and say some of it belongs to him and some of it doesn't!  Let alone considering the entire corrupted Gospel as the True Living Word of GOD Almighty, which is a complete blasphemy.
Please visit A dangerous forgery was inserted at the end of the so-called "Gospel of Mark".

STAY ALERT CHRISTIANS, THERE IS MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: at 19-02-2011 12:20 PM (13 years ago) | Hero

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@Candanre

This is Mark 16: 9 - 20

Show us the omission...

9. Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
10. And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept.

11. And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.

12. After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

13. And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them.

14. Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

20. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

I told you last time...read and understand before you copy and paste...
The Bible is written in ENGLISH LANGUAGE for all to see...!!!
...now...where is your next confusion...

Posted: at 19-02-2011 06:59 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

@ chik000000000000000000001

Stop beating around the bush and prove to us that mark Matthew & co were the original authors of the bible not other unknown individuals. Prove to us also when the whole thing was written. That is the point. You are wasting too much effort in telling me that I only read without understand while you are the one who read without understanding. It seems you do not understand what I am driving at. Open you eyes and read it again. I am not accusing you of OMISSION but making the Bible an absurd and very corrupt book. Many times, the publishers doubt the authenticity of what they have published, yet they published it. Thank God, they finally tell us and point to us their doubts in the comments they normally make at the end of the HARDWORK (ALTERING, EDITING, RE-EDITING AND PUBLISHING).

Posted: at 20-02-2011 11:53 AM (13 years ago) | Hero

[shadows]

@ chik000000000000000000001

Stop beating around the bush and prove to us that mark Matthew & co were the original authors of the bible not other unknown individuals. Prove to us also when the whole thing was written. That is the point. You are wasting too much effort in telling me that I only read without understand while you are the one who read without understanding. It seems you do not understand what I am driving at. Open you eyes and read it again. I am not accusing you of OMISSION but making the Bible an absurd and very corrupt book. Many times, the publishers doubt the authenticity of what they have published, yet they published it. Thank God, they finally tell us and point to us their doubts in the comments they normally make at the end of the HARDWORK (ALTERING, EDITING, RE-EDITING AND PUBLISHING).

... now I got your attention...
Firstly...your posts are rather based on speculations...innuendos...
I have always told you and your boyfriends that you chase shadows and leave the real substance...
I will not waste time to type on that subject...Google it and you will find all the answers you require on Mathew and Mark and their origin...that will sooth your self righteous  personality...
 I only care about the content of their writings...Ghosts don't write books...
Jesus the Christ and many other great prophets never wrote books...only biographers or followers / disciples do...
Mohammed did not write or instruct any Koranic material to be written down only to be recited (I can prove that from the Hadiths).
so which is important...the writer or his writings...
...The theologians, publishers and other Bible critics doubts the contents of the Bible because of its uncompromising nature... They want something that will be compatible with their unscrupulous ways of life...They all like you and your lackeys that lack the spiritual sense which is the basic requirement to understand the Holy Bible and to be a True Christian...

Posted: at 20-02-2011 12:59 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

@ chik000000000001

First of all,  it sounds very-very funny to me when you said you have gotten my attention  May be you have forgotten that It was me who create this thread.

Secondly, I did not blame you much for failing to grab the central idea of the whole thing because I am aware that the writing may appear cumbersome such that you may not read it all or you may not be able to understand it fully. I also wonder how you failed to understand that my writings were not a mere speculations but extracted from the sources you have a knowledge of. Then if you think it is all a speculative thing, then I wonder why you would believe in Bible, because my source was the Bible itself (BIBLE COMMENTS MADE BY THE WRITERS). A group of people decided to edit and re-write the existing Bible in order to arrive at an AUTHORISED (by whom, I do not know) INTERNATIONAL/STANDARD VERSION of the Bible, after arriving at the authorised copy, they then told you that the source is not well known or that its authenticity is not guaranteed, but you are blaming me for not understanding things. How ridiculous!

One of the funny things you said it is the CONTENTS that concerns you not who write/edit and re-edit and also introduce the contents to you. This means that you do not bloody care whether the content is original or fake............. This is a big mistake. Do not try to deviate from this topic during your next response (for I know you are an expert in maneuvering).

I wonder who (between me and you) chase shadows. You blindly follow the book which has no authenticity and that its writers told you clearly that they are not sure of what they have written and I said, come here chik000000000001, this thing you are following, in it, there is some red lights and warning alarms. Who then is chasing the shadow? It is you chik000000000000001 You chase the unknown shadow (a book written by unknown people, at unknown place, at unknown time). I advice you to open your eyes and minds for after this one, WHO WERE THE REAL AUTHORS OF THE BIBLE PART II IS COMING SOOOOOOOOOOON!

Keep on chasing the shadow chik00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

Posted: at 21-02-2011 05:27 PM (13 years ago) | Hero

[Abu bakr]

@ chik000000000001

First of all,  it sounds very-very funny to me when you said you have gotten my attention  May be you have forgotten that It was me who create this thread.

Secondly, I did not blame you much for failing to grab the central idea of the whole thing because I am aware that the writing may appear cumbersome such that you may not read it all or you may not be able to understand it fully. I also wonder how you failed to understand that my writings were not a mere speculations but extracted from the sources you have a knowledge of. Then if you think it is all a speculative thing, then I wonder why you would believe in Bible, because my source was the Bible itself (BIBLE COMMENTS MADE BY THE WRITERS). A group of people decided to edit and re-write the existing Bible in order to arrive at an AUTHORISED (by whom, I do not know) INTERNATIONAL/STANDARD VERSION of the Bible, after arriving at the authorised copy, they then told you that the source is not well known or that its authenticity is not guaranteed, but you are blaming me for not understanding things. How ridiculous!

One of the funny things you said it is the CONTENTS that concerns you not who write/edit and re-edit and also introduce the contents to you. This means that you do not bloody care whether the content is original or fake............. This is a big mistake. Do not try to deviate from this topic during your next response (for I know you are an expert in maneuvering).

I wonder who (between me and you) chase shadows. You blindly follow the book which has no authenticity and that its writers told you clearly that they are not sure of what they have written and I said, come here chik000000000001, this thing you are following, in it, there is some red lights and warning alarms. Who then is chasing the shadow? It is you chik000000000000001 You chase the unknown shadow (a book written by unknown people, at unknown place, at unknown time). I advice you to open your eyes and minds for after this one, WHO WERE THE REAL AUTHORS OF THE BIBLE PART II IS COMING SOOOOOOOOOOON!

Keep on chasing the shadow chik00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

...You have not been able to prove anything fake on the contents of The Holy Bible...
You arguments are merely based on speculations and innuendos...popular opinion...
As far as am concern...if a Muslim or other wrote the Bible...he/she will include and OK... Jihad...polygamy...fornication...pedophile...homosegxwalism...stealing...beheading...amputation...revenge killing...
I know you will go quoting the old testament...thats what Mohammed tried to introduce to yous...

Whatever you know about Islam is what you were told or read...you don't know or have not met wit Abu bakr (editor-in-chief of The Koran)
...neither have you met with Uthman called Zaid bin Thabit...Abdullah bin Az-Zubair...Said bin Al-As and Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Harith bin Hisham...
...do you personally know the writers of the Hadiths and Suras...?
...neither of them are your family members...or are they ...
...but you believe in what they wrote down...
If any writer had to be doubted...it has to be Mohammed and writers of the Koran...there has been no known or proven description of these people...this was cleverly hidden by Abu bakr so as to immortalize Mohammed...even if their is...it's what you were told and you accepted...

...for your part two...I cant wait to read and reply...it makes me more committed...

Posted: at 21-02-2011 07:51 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

@ chik0000000000000000000001

That is what you are. You always end up responding with counter questions and explanations instead of you to address the issue on the desk. If you want to challenge us on that, why can't you open a new thread for that? Now I am pointing how uncertain and un-authentic the Bible is, instead of you to address that you end up BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. Is it that you cannot prove to yourself talk less of proving it to other people, the authenticity of the Bible that is why you end up discussing a different thing? Chei!

Chik00000000000000001 this is an undeniable fact, even the writers of the Bible did not have full faith about its origin...... They said it themselves and I want you to remember that I am not the one who said it BUT THE WRITERS AND THOSE WHOM SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EDITING AND ALTERING IT all to arrive as one authentic and authorised INTERNATIONAL STANDARD VERSION all to no avail.

I ADVISE YOU TO STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH

Posted: at 21-02-2011 09:12 PM (13 years ago) | Hero

@ chik0000000000000000000001

That is what you are. You always end up responding with counter questions and explanations instead of you to address the issue on the desk. If you want to challenge us on that, why can't you open a new thread for that? Now I am pointing how uncertain and un-authentic the Bible is, instead of you to address that you end up BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. Is it that you cannot prove to yourself talk less of proving it to other people, the authenticity of the Bible that is why you end up discussing a different thing? Chei!

Chik00000000000000001 this is an undeniable fact, even the writers of the Bible did not have full faith about its origin...... They said it themselves and I want you to remember that I am not the one who said it BUT THE WRITERS AND THOSE WHOM SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EDITING AND ALTERING IT all to arrive as one authentic and authorised INTERNATIONAL STANDARD VERSION all to no avail.

I ADVISE YOU TO STOP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH

..The only undeniable fact I see here is that you chase shadows and leave substance...
The Holy Bible is written in English for you to read...the work of a writer explains their mindset...
The writers of the Holy Bible have God's mindset...
...If they have written for me to kill or terrorize my neighbor, amputate, exulted homos, wage war, be a pedophile...then...I would have started chasing shadows like yous...
...as I said before...the content is enough for me to know their mindset...

Posted: at 21-02-2011 11:24 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

Posted: at 22-02-2011 02:53 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

I really reason with you my brother. It is better for me to stop arguing with a man without brain, the one who worship blindfolded. Allah Ya saka maka da alkhairi.

Posted: at 22-02-2011 03:43 PM (13 years ago) | Hero

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

...your best option is to ignore me for your own good...or...you will end up having heart failure...
...you have become aggressive and defensive...this is because...like I said earlier...lack of substance...discipline and objectivity...
...I will continue to expose Islam for what it is...whenever I choose...you should choose to reply...if you have anything reasonable...if not...well...like Babagida...step aside...
...meanwhile...thank God for the Internet...!!!

Posted: at 22-02-2011 07:54 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

I really reason with you my brother. It is better for me to stop arguing with a man without brain, the one who worship blindfolded. Allah Ya saka maka da alkhairi.

...you have become aggressive and defensive...this is because...like I said earlier...lack of substance...discipline and objectivity...
...am consider myself too disciplined and principled to follow suit...
...I will continue to expose Islam for what it is...whenever I choose...you should choose to reply...if you have anything reasonable...if not...well...like Babagida...step aside...
...as usual...thank God for the Internet...

Posted: at 22-02-2011 07:57 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

...your best option is to ignore me for your own good...or...you will end up having heart failure...
...you have become aggressive and defensive...this is because...like I said earlier...lack of substance...discipline and objectivity...
...I will continue to expose Islam for what it is...whenever I choose...you should choose to reply...if you have anything reasonable...if not...well...like Babagida...step aside...
...meanwhile...thank God for the Internet...!!!

I day laugh

Posted: at 23-02-2011 11:21 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

...your best option is to ignore me for your own good...or...you will end up having heart failure...
...you have become aggressive and defensive...this is because...like I said earlier...lack of substance...discipline and objectivity...
...I will continue to expose Islam for what it is...whenever I choose...you should choose to reply...if you have anything reasonable...if not...well...like Babagida...step aside...
...meanwhile...thank God for the Internet...!!!

I want you to know that i am not afraid of arguing with you. I saw one of your useless post telling me that i do not read Qur'an there fore you will fire me question in it. up till now you refuse to ask your question. Be side, Arguing with you is just a west of time. This is because you don't even know the kind of argument you are doing. If you are tackled with questions, you will just run away and never refuse to answer, why should i continue to do so if you are not answering my questions.For your own information, Qur'an is in my head already and even some of your own bibles. So i don't mine your useless quotations.

Posted: at 23-02-2011 02:41 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

...your best option is to ignore me for your own good...or...you will end up having heart failure...
...you have become aggressive and defensive...this is because...like I said earlier...lack of substance...discipline and objectivity...
...I will continue to expose Islam for what it is...whenever I choose...you should choose to reply...if you have anything reasonable...if not...well...like Babagida...step aside...
...meanwhile...thank God for the Internet...!!!

I want you to know that i am not afraid of arguing with you. I saw one of your useless post telling me that i do not read Qur'an there fore you will fire me question in it. up till now you refuse to ask your question. Be side, Arguing with you is just a west of time. This is because you don't even know the kind of argument you are doing. If you are tackled with questions, you will just run away and refuse to answer, why should i continue to do so if you are not answering my questions.For your own information, Qur'an is in my head already and even some of your own bibles. So i don't mine your useless quotations.

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Posted: at 23-02-2011 02:44 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming

Pls candre do not waste your time on some one that is doing blind argument. Remember you warn me the other day about this person.
Pls talk to reasonable Christians( like Pholake) not this one.
Please i beg you to forget about him.

...your best option is to ignore me for your own good...or...you will end up having heart failure...
...you have become aggressive and defensive...this is because...like I said earlier...lack of substance...discipline and objectivity...
...I will continue to expose Islam for what it is...whenever I choose...you should choose to reply...if you have anything reasonable...if not...well...like Babagida...step aside...
...meanwhile...thank God for the Internet...!!!

I want you to know that i am not afraid of arguing with you. I saw one of your useless post telling me that i do not read Qur'an there fore you will fire me question in it. up till now you refuse to ask your question. Be side, Arguing with you is just a west of time. This is because you don't even know the kind of argument you are doing. If you are tackled with questions, you will just run away and never refuse to answer, why should i continue to do so if you are not answering my questions.For your own information, Qur'an is in my head already and even some of your own bibles. So i don't mine your useless quotations.

...your options are still open...

Posted: at 23-02-2011 07:23 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac

Ask google,,,

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