UNFORGIVABLE OFFENCES ??? (Page 5)

Date: 07-10-2010 5:37 am (13 years ago) | Author: TYABO
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- masterlymade4u at 12-10-2010 10:45 AM (13 years ago)
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Forgiving depends on the magnitude of wrong done and the persons mood on the particular or its happened. But since God can forgive us for whatever sin we commit why shouldnt we forgive others.Though there are some things people done to you that u think you will never forgive them especially when they feel the have not wronged you or take you for granted.
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- agabs at 12-10-2010 10:47 AM (13 years ago)
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Well. I think in my book/mind there is really no such thing as an offense. I think there are inappropriate actions and appropriate actions towards me.

There is something called the emotional bank account. Everybody has got an emotional bank account with every other person on the planet.. Before you start communicating with individuals, your emotional bank account with them is at zero. You words and actions make deposits or withdrawals into the emotional bank account you have with the people around you.

Now when you use harsh words you are taking from the emotional bank account. When your actions are inconsiderate you are withdrawing from the emotional bank account.

Imagine throwing insults at a friend. Denying a friend attention when he seeks it. Lieing to a friend. Stealing from a friend. What it means is, you have depleted the emotional account to less than zero. It means that there is nothing in the emotional account. Do not expect them to give you something from the emotional bank account you have with them. You have withdrawn all the goodies in that account.

Did I say the emotional account is at zero initially? Well, for people who have had hard-times yes. For children and adults who are innocent- Solomon calls them simple - the emotional account you have with them is above zero. That means before they even know you, they already have some love for you. Children and innocent adults are like that. I guess that is why 419 is successful.

A lot of people make it a habit to withdraw all the goodies from the emotional bank accounts they have with people around them. They disrespect strangers, lie to their friends, and disrespect family. At the end of the day, all the emotional bank accounts they have with people goes  lower than zero.
That is when you guys start talking about forgiveness and all that.

There are no quick fixes. Quick fixes do not last. Quick fixes are not fixes but disguises of the problem.
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- bittersweet at 12-10-2010 10:54 AM (13 years ago)
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The seven habits of highly effective people,huh? Cool

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- agabs at 12-10-2010 11:02 AM (13 years ago)
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Seven Habits of highly effective people[Stephen Covey].
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Think all you need to live life is in the Bible and the Koran? Maybe. However, God has given some humans the purpose of teaching us how relationship and happiness works. One of such humans is Stephen Covey. He has this lovely book called the "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People". What I wrote above is my understanding of a part of that book.

Makes Sense, Right? You right.

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So like when you have a problem with your dad, you may have to like keep depositing into the emotional bank account you have with him till you are have enough goodies. Your love will not give you goodies if you havn't put goodies in your account with him.
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For cold people like me the emotional bank account sure makes sense. The emotional bank account explains Jesus's "do unto orders as you want orders to do unto you." It explains, "Love your neighbor as yourself". It basically says, if you want encouragement, you should encourage. It says if you want love you should love.

It is like this.
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Some of you guys where in college or university of secondary school or high school.[[[[[Whateva, the world can't even agree on the-same system of education or
 classification. eMcheeew]]]]]]

Like I was saying, you all know that guy in school who was friends with everybody right? You all remember how he asked after every other person and never walked passed another without saying hello right? You all remember that when he had a party?
Everyone was there. And that is cause, he cared for everyone. So every one cared for him. He was never lonely cause he was always friendly.

That guy had a good emotional bank account with each of everyone.

you get what you give. You necessarily don't give what you get. Though you give what you get but you shouldn't believe that cause that limits your thinking.[[okay a little craziness there. Ha ha ahhahaah]]
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- agabs at 12-10-2010 11:05 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: bittersweet on 12-10-2010 10:54 AM
The seven habits of highly effective people,huh? Cool
Yep! You have read it. That is cool. I am happier. I think that book should be in every language and beside every Koran and Bible. After all there is know philosophy in that book that goes against any of the holy books. I do guess it might make terrorists more committed and ..........I talk to much.
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- Pepesy at 12-10-2010 11:06 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: harakiri on 11-10-2010 10:23 PM
Being cheated on in a relationship is beyond forgiveness. I would rather forgive a fraudulent person who ripped off millions from me than forgive such a lady.

hmmn! Undecided Undecided
Posted: at 12-10-2010 11:06 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Ranoscky at 12-10-2010 11:08 AM (13 years ago)
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Even if a man piank's my wife, i can stil forgive him (it's not his fault. it's left for the woman to play her role as a married wife) ! But i'l never take d lady as a wife anymore.
But if u kill any of my family member, i'll never, i repeat, NEVER EVER forgive dat animal. And i'll make sure he or she also exits dis earth in one way or the other (unless d animal go runaway forever) !!!

Daz Rano for u !!!
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- bittersweet at 12-10-2010 11:10 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on 12-10-2010 11:05 AM
Quote from: bittersweet on 12-10-2010 10:54 AM
The seven habits of highly effective people,huh? Cool
Yep! You have read it. That is cool. I am happier. I think that book should be in every language and beside every Koran and Bible. After all there is know philosophy in that book that goes against any of the holy books. I do guess it might make terrorists more committed and ..........I talk to much.

 Smiley

Posted: at 12-10-2010 11:10 AM (13 years ago) | Hero
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- agabs at 12-10-2010 11:20 AM (13 years ago)
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Personally, I really do not hold things against people. Understanding makes one incapable of hating people. When you get to some certain points you truly do not display that emotion called hate. hate is a useless emotion. Hate is a useless emotion. Except it is hatred of evil. Hatred of people is like useless.

When you hate people, you hate yourself.

So, if you still my money. I won't hate you. I however get to understand that you are not trust worth. Funny thing is I will not trust you. And even when you try to make up, I may not give you the chance. Sometimes the harder you fight to right the wrong the harder people run away from you. And you should accept it. That is punishment. That may be what IBB has got to understand. May be.

However, a man of understanding still carries out firm actions without hate. Like, a nurse injects you to cure you. Like if you steal my money, I could decide to have you arrested in Nigeria. I may not allow the police forward the matter to the courts. However you may have to spend some time in the slammer to have you go into your skull.

I do have some friends I don't take seriously that much anymore. Cause, I was innocent in my friendship with them but they took me for a fool. I guess now some of them are older, but, I still do not commit. I don't hate them. I don't hold any thing against them. However, the way I deal with them has changed. That is life.

I am important. I deserve honest friends. I deserve to sleep with my eyes closed. I deserve friends who have my back. Only with honest people should I be honest. If I know you are not honest, how the hell should I treat you like you are honest? Please don't tell me anything about forgiveness. This aint sentiment. this is principle.
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- moniconyez at 12-10-2010 11:24 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: Ranoscky on 12-10-2010 11:08 AM
Even if a man piank's my wife, i can stil forgive him (it's not his fault. it's left for the woman to play her role as a married wife) ! But i'l never take d lady as a wife anymore.
But if u kill any of my family member, i'll never, i repeat, NEVER EVER forgive dat animal. And i'll make sure he or she also exits dis earth in one way or the other (unless d animal go runaway forever) !!!

Daz Rano for u !!!

If a man sleep with my wife knowing very well that my wife is married, Then leave the man for me he must surely DIE...........Unless i dont have the opportunity killig him. You can forgive him if he didnt know that your wife have a husbandOK? And if some one kill a member of my family or relatives then it left for me to ask and know what offence did my relative or family member commit agaist their killer b4 any action OK?
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- agabs at 12-10-2010 11:31 AM (13 years ago)
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The human mind is a wonder. It is easy for the subconscious to take over when your mind is altered. Like when you are on booze or indo or cocaine or shit like that. You may lash out at people who have depleted their emotional bank accounts below zero. The subconscious should not be given control by intoxication. Most crimes of hate are commited under the influence of some drug. Hmn!

I guess Prophet Mohammed was right to forbid his followers Alcohol.

I think we should love and never hate. And even when we are hurt, we should protect ourselves in love and with love by loving those that hurt us. I guess that is what Jesus meant when he said you should turn the other chick. After-all a slap can't kill one.
Hmn!

Wise people do not take offense. Wise people act appropriately and react appropriately. Wise people know that to hate another is to hate self. hence, wise people watch their steps. Wise people practice love and firmness.
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Sha, don't go thinking you will come to my house to rob me in the night, and I will not protect myself with a gun. I guess, I am the kind of guy who will shoot you and call an ambulance to come take you to the hospital.

All in all, still on still, yet then yet, life is an enigma.
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- onyin at 12-10-2010 02:13 PM (13 years ago)
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Unforgivable offences?.Hmmmmmm I dont know of any for now.
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- tyabo at 12-10-2010 02:33 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: onyin on 12-10-2010 02:13 PM
Unforgivable offences?.Hmmmmmm I dont know of any for now.
bt u haven't 4givin me since den na...
Posted: at 12-10-2010 02:33 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- tyabo at 12-10-2010 02:35 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: bittersweet on 12-10-2010 10:54 AM
The seven habits of highly effective people,huh? Cool

lost  Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?
Posted: at 12-10-2010 02:35 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- onyin at 12-10-2010 02:38 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: tyabo on 12-10-2010 02:33 PM
Quote from: onyin on 12-10-2010 02:13 PM
Unforgivable offences?.Hmmmmmm I dont know of any for now.
bt u haven't 4givin me since den na...
lol.wat was your offence?
Posted: at 12-10-2010 02:38 PM (13 years ago) | Hero
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- yomightgold at 12-10-2010 02:45 PM (13 years ago)
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Rape my wife, Sister or any female around me.
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- tyabo at 12-10-2010 02:46 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: onyin on 12-10-2010 02:38 PM
Quote from: tyabo on 12-10-2010 02:33 PM
Quote from: onyin on 12-10-2010 02:13 PM
Unforgivable offences?.Hmmmmmm I dont know of any for now.
bt u haven't 4givin me since den na...
lol.wat was your offence?
i shuld b d 1 askin u dat na...pls 4giv me  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Posted: at 12-10-2010 02:46 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- MissyDarliin at 12-10-2010 04:41 PM (13 years ago)
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hmmm nothing to be honest.. coz God manages to 4give our sins.. nd we all do soo many things that wud hurt God if he was human.. soo y shud it b soo hard to forive sum1 wen jesus died on the cross for us and wen it clearly states in the bible that we should love our enemies too.. well its either u forgive and free urself from havin a hard heart.. oor u hold grudge agaisnt sum1 nd b the one hurting Smiley..
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- mykelly at 12-10-2010 04:51 PM (13 years ago)
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i can forgive to any length but cant forget.
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- onyin at 12-10-2010 04:55 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: tyabo on 12-10-2010 02:46 PM
Quote from: onyin on 12-10-2010 02:38 PM
Quote from: tyabo on 12-10-2010 02:33 PM
Quote from: onyin on 12-10-2010 02:13 PM
Unforgivable offences?.Hmmmmmm I dont know of any for now.
bt u haven't 4givin me since den na...
lol.wat was your offence?
i shuld b d 1 askin u dat na...pls 4giv me  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Ok ,I forgive you. Grin Cheesy
Posted: at 12-10-2010 04:55 PM (13 years ago) | Hero
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