The Second Coming of Jesus Christ (Page 2)

Date: 14-08-2011 7:49 pm (12 years ago) | Author: GIFT IGBINOBA
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- harold634 at 19-08-2011 04:21 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: williams100 on 18-08-2011 10:28 PM
foul languages of profanity is uncalled for peeps.last time i checked,every individuals on the planet are obligated to their own point of views,belief just to mention but a few.let this sarcastic utterances fall back into "black hole" and remain there please.the world as we know is bound to come to an end someday but the prediction of its eventuality/reality by anyone is far-fetchedly ridiculous which of cause,the poster didnt sagaciously pressumed or assumed.there are over 2billion christians in the world.i believe he was only trying to pass a message across to hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who subscribed to the christian faith on this social media...
We are hearing warnings from all sectors of our society. There are health warnings, terrorist warnings, economic warnings, weather warnings, and end-of-the-world warnings.  Some warnings are valid, others are simply the fears of certain people, and have no basis of accuracy. Governments issue warnings when they feel they are being threatened by invasion or aggression from other powers.   Health agencies warn of contagious diseases that could be spread unless precautions are taken.  We hear of economic warnings when certain indicators in the markets warrant caution.  And of course, our weather agencies monitor the threat of storms, fires, earthquakes, hurricanes and other weather related dangers. 

I want to address a particular kind of warning in this article, what is popularly known as an "end time" warning. These voices range from "end-of-the-world" scenarios to end time prophecies depicting all kinds of foreboding happenings that could threaten our world.  Some of these warnings are valid and credible, while others are just people who want to be seen and heard. Most of these warnings are coming from the church.  However, secular movies and videos have also been depicting "end time" themes with warnings that the end of the world could be near.

Should we heed these warnings?   How do we know they are credible?  The Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:21: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."21: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."  We are not supposed to believe every warning we hear, but rather we are to "prove all things."  How do we do this?  First, we must check out spiritual warnings to see if they are Bible-based. The next thing we need to do is ask the Lord if the motives of the ones who are sounding the warnings are pure, and directed out of concern for the people. Some people prey on people's fears to sell them something, while others like the attention they receive because of their inflated egos
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- harold634 at 19-08-2011 04:34 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: PreciousA on 19-08-2011 08:41 AM
Very true, williams.
My complaint with the OP is from this:
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There are many signs we see that tell us we are living close to the second coming of Christ Jesus. Looking at the Bible prophecy in Daniel 12, it says that at the time of the end "many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." We live in a world that is no doubt, "running to and fro" like no other time before us. Take a look at knowledge, how much has that increased over the last 20 years? It has increased at an incredible rate, and not only in a worldly way, but also knowledge has increased with the Word of God, especially Bible prophecy. In Matthew 24, Jesus says that "nation will rise against nation", "there will be famines and earthquakes" and "many false prophets shall arise". We can see these signs being fulfilled every day in our news. You may say that this has been happening for a long time, but over the last 10 years the frequency and intensity has increased no end. There is also one other big sign that tells me we are at the very end and that Jesus will return soon at the second coming; Jesus said in Matthew 24:14...."this gospel must be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations, and then the end will come." ..... Every person must hear the TRUE gospel of Christ Jesus and decide whether to accept Jesus or not. Then the end will come, once everyone has made their choice. At this present time, the gospel message has almost reached the four corners of this earth with tv, radio, churches, missionaries, books, internet, leaflets, etc...


The OP claims the endo fthe world is near, applying the Signs of the Times to the present.
We've all seen how this has been done repeatedly in the last 2,000+ years.
Repeatedly.
And every time reality has entered in.
None of those who have preached 'the End is Near' up til now have been anything but deluded or dishonest.
Not one.

I find this sort of preaching unChristian and highly objectionable because it's clearly a tactic to sway the vulnerable.
The only word u speciliaze on is ''shame on u'' instead of u to come out openly with your written words of Bible proof about the end time. Have u take your time to pray and communicate with God? Go and accept Christ to open your spiritual eyes of understanding and stop being a mediocre in all your sayings.
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- kerryniyi at 19-08-2011 05:04 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on 16-08-2011 12:53 PM
Relax, everyone, it won't happen.
You will ovbiously dissapoint your life.
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- kerryniyi at 19-08-2011 05:05 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: PreciousA on 17-08-2011 08:48 AM
Quote from: harold634 on 14-08-2011 07:49 PM
... In Matthew 24, Jesus says that "nation will rise against nation", "there will be famines and earthquakes" and "many false prophets shall arise". We can see these signs being fulfilled every day in our news. You may say that this has been happening for a long time, but over the last 10 years the frequency and intensity has increased no end. ...

This is utter nonsense. Those 'signs of the times' have been quoted endlessly for over  the last 1011 years by preachers.
Have you forgotten the 21 May 2011 predictions, just to mention the most recent occurence of this?

Take it esay. It will come to pass.
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- kerryniyi at 19-08-2011 05:08 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: PreciousA on 17-08-2011 09:23 AM
Here's a thread about that 21 May 'prediction'
http://www.naijapals.com/modules/naijapals/naijapals-base-%28metro-life%29/is-jesus-christ-coming-back-on-may-21-2011/15/

So you can see how these false prophets drag along the innocent.
Shame!

Why shame? There is no specific date here or did u read another post? Try to learn manner of approach
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- williams100 at 19-08-2011 05:13 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: PreciousA on 19-08-2011 08:41 AM
Very true, williams.
My complaint with the OP is from this:
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There are many signs we see that tell us we are living close to the second coming of Christ Jesus. Looking at the Bible prophecy in Daniel 12, it says that at the time of the end "many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." We live in a world that is no doubt, "running to and fro" like no other time before us. Take a look at knowledge, how much has that increased over the last 20 years? It has increased at an incredible rate, and not only in a worldly way, but also knowledge has increased with the Word of God, especially Bible prophecy. In Matthew 24, Jesus says that "nation will rise against nation", "there will be famines and earthquakes" and "many false prophets shall arise". We can see these signs being fulfilled every day in our news. You may say that this has been happening for a long time, but over the last 10 years the frequency and intensity has increased no end. There is also one other big sign that tells me we are at the very end and that Jesus will return soon at the second coming; Jesus said in Matthew 24:14...."this gospel must be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations, and then the end will come." ..... Every person must hear the TRUE gospel of Christ Jesus and decide whether to accept Jesus or not. Then the end will come, once everyone has made their choice. At this present time, the gospel message has almost reached the four corners of this earth with tv, radio, churches, missionaries, books, internet, leaflets, etc...


The OP claims the endo fthe world is near, applying the Signs of the Times to the present.
We've all seen how this has been done repeatedly in the last 2,000+ years.
Repeatedly.
And every time reality has entered in.
None of those who have preached 'the End is Near' up til now have been anything but deluded or dishonest.
Not one.

I find this sort of preaching unChristian and highly objectionable because it's clearly a tactic to sway the vulnerable.

the highlighted words in red is seemingly but not necessarily and its highly for those who do not subscribe to the christian faith like as i arrowed out initially.you may disagree with him and decide to rebuff all his comment all the way down.but then again,let him have his way and say.he is entitled to it.i can understand where you are coming from and travelling to with your comment.but we need to be prepared irrespective of our religious background or subcription for whether you and i like it or not,mankind's existence is at the brink of apocalyptic extinction if not annihilation.it may be many decades ahead or probably aeons as there is no certainty or specifics.i just hope and pray that all humans on planet earth should be on the right side of religious faith/belonging.all the same,nice chatting with you..............
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- kerryniyi at 19-08-2011 05:18 PM (12 years ago)
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@Harold634, i am just too impress with this post. Your past comments on this forum has been too positive, please keep it up. This post can only be understood by those christians that are not canal but spiritual in all their ways. One more thing, please try to enlighten people more instead of using abusive words. A true christian will fall in love with this post because the truth is what people are kicking against. A harden heart will continue to argue and kick against what God has said because there is no light of truth in them.
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- williams100 at 19-08-2011 05:29 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: harold634 on 19-08-2011 04:21 PM
Quote from: williams100 on 18-08-2011 10:28 PM
foul languages of profanity is uncalled for peeps.last time i checked,every individuals on the planet are obligated to their own point of views,belief just to mention but a few.let this sarcastic utterances fall back into "black hole" and remain there please.the world as we know is bound to come to an end someday but the prediction of its eventuality/reality by anyone is far-fetchedly ridiculous which of cause,the poster didnt sagaciously pressumed or assumed.there are over 2billion christians in the world.i believe he was only trying to pass a message across to hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who subscribed to the christian faith on this social media...
We are hearing warnings from all sectors of our society. There are health warnings, terrorist warnings, economic warnings, weather warnings, and end-of-the-world warnings.  Some warnings are valid, others are simply the fears of certain people, and have no basis of accuracy. Governments issue warnings when they feel they are being threatened by invasion or aggression from other powers.   Health agencies warn of contagious diseases that could be spread unless precautions are taken.  We hear of economic warnings when certain indicators in the markets warrant caution.  And of course, our weather agencies monitor the threat of storms, fires, earthquakes, hurricanes and other weather related dangers. 

I want to address a particular kind of warning in this article, what is popularly known as an "end time" warning. These voices range from "end-of-the-world" scenarios to end time prophecies depicting all kinds of foreboding happenings that could threaten our world.  Some of these warnings are valid and credible, while others are just people who want to be seen and heard. Most of these warnings are coming from the church.  However, secular movies and videos have also been depicting "end time" themes with warnings that the end of the world could be near.

Should we heed these warnings?   How do we know they are credible?  The Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:21: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."21: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."  We are not supposed to believe every warning we hear, but rather we are to "prove all things."  How do we do this?  First, we must check out spiritual warnings to see if they are Bible-based. The next thing we need to do is ask the Lord if the motives of the ones who are sounding the warnings are pure, and directed out of concern for the people. Some people prey on people's fears to sell them something, while others like the attention they receive because of their inflated egos


affirmitive bro,we are on the same page and i grab the crystal essence from what you are saying.dating back to the time of old,there are not much chaos and problematic sydrome as compared to modern times e.g 16th century was a little peaceful and better than this 21st century.no much of earthquakes,famine,drought,disasters,global warming etc.with the existence of just atomic weapons at this new age alone,i wonder the dessimating outcome/effect that will sprung up in the cause of a global nuclear warfare...hiroshima and nagazaki of 1945 should serve as an important lesson.a nuclear holocaust is not to be toiled and foiled with.perhaps,human beings may use their own hands to torpedo the world to its latter end......
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- harold634 at 19-08-2011 09:33 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kerryniyi on 19-08-2011 05:18 PM
@Harold634, i am just too impress with this post. Your past comments on this forum has been too positive, please keep it up. This post can only be understood by those christians that are not canal but spiritual in all their ways. One more thing, please try to enlighten people more instead of using abusive words. A true christian will fall in love with this post because the truth is what people are kicking against. A harden heart will continue to argue and kick against what God has said because there is no light of truth in them.
Bro, thank you for your comment. I trust God that there is someone out there like you who acknowledge the word of truth.
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- harold634 at 19-08-2011 09:39 PM (12 years ago)
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@williams100, thank you so much for this great contribution. There are few people that give great contributions of comments on this forum and you are one of them. for quite sometime, you have not been regular. I trust God you are doing great.
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- CammyWhite at 20-08-2011 03:10 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: kerryniyi on 19-08-2011 05:04 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on 16-08-2011 12:53 PM
Relax, everyone, it won't happen.
You will ovbiously dissapoint your life.

You want to explain that?
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- williams100 at 20-08-2011 09:28 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: harold634 on 19-08-2011 09:39 PM
@williams100, thank you so much for this great contribution. There are few people that give great contributions of comments on this forum and you are one of them. for quite sometime, you have not been regular. I trust God you are doing great.

and,many thanks to you too mr harold...am doing just great we bless God for that...i have been a little busy with work thats why i have not been regular here.nice topic bro.this your topic is for christian believers/would-be-christian individuals and furthermore,to those who it may concern willing to learn and share.......once again,many thanks to you for this topic and the one's to come ahead.....
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- PreciousA at 20-08-2011 02:00 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: harold634 on 19-08-2011 04:03 PM
@PreciousA,,... reblious spirit.  .... the darkness of your heart which has rejected the knowledge of the truth....  This post is a reminder for the diligent seekers of God to hold on to their fast so that such a satanic deceiver like you will not take away their crown. REV 3:11

Well, well, well.
Insults galore in your reply.
I'm not surprised someone like you counters facts with insults.
I think you're showing everyone who can read just what your preaching is based on:
Bad faith.

Why are you trying to scare the readers with this kind of stuff?
Don't you know Jesus preached the End times were going to happen NOT 2,000 years later, but in the lifetimes of those listening to him?
Didn't you read that long, long list of false prophets who have claimed the end times are upon us?
They convinced a lot of people.
People who watched the days go by and nothing like was preached happened.
Ever.

You want to preach?
Preach charity, preach forbearance, preach a generous spirit.
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- PreciousA at 20-08-2011 02:05 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: harold634 on 19-08-2011 04:21 PM

...Should we heed these warnings?   How do we know they are credible?  The Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:21: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."21: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."  We are not supposed to believe every warning we hear, but rather we are to "prove all things."  How do we do this?  First, we must check out spiritual warnings to see if they are Bible-based. The next thing we need to do is ask the Lord if the motives of the ones who are sounding the warnings are pure, and directed out of concern for the people. Some people prey on people's fears to sell them something, while others like the attention they receive because of their inflated egos...

I think you should take your own words to heart.
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- PreciousA at 20-08-2011 02:10 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: harold634 on 19-08-2011 04:34 PM
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The only word u speciliaze on is ''shame on u'' instead of u to come out openly with your written words of Bible proof about the end time. Have u take your time to pray and communicate with God? Go and accept Christ to open your spiritual eyes of understanding and stop being a mediocre in all your sayings. ...

Wrong again, harald.
I've shown just how often in the past pastors have tried to influence people with this sort of 'warnings' over the last 2,000 years.
2,000 years.

These prophesies have all ben taken from the same texts, harald.
Don't you understand that?
None of them has ever ever come true.
Not one.
2,000 years of waiting to the end times.
Don't you think it's time to stop?
And start living like Christians?

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- PreciousA at 20-08-2011 02:20 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: williams100 on 19-08-2011 05:29 PM


affirmitive bro,we are on the same page and i grab the crystal essence from what you are saying.dating back to the time of old,there are not much chaos and problematic sydrome as compared to modern times e.g 16th century was a little peaceful and better than this 21st century.no much of earthquakes,famine,drought,disasters,global warming etc.with the existence of just atomic weapons at this new age alone,i wonder the dessimating outcome/effect that will sprung up in the cause of a global nuclear warfare...hiroshima and nagazaki of 1945 should serve as an important lesson.a nuclear holocaust is not to be toiled and foiled with.perhaps,human beings may use their own hands to torpedo the world to its latter end......

Williams, I hope you're joking here. The world has never been a safer place than it is right now.
Read up about the 16th century and you'll see what I mean.
Does the phrase Black Plague mean anything to you?
That's just to name one of the many plagues which no longer exist.
And not thanks to end times preaching.

Nuclear holocaust?
You've been watching too many movies.
And Hollywood is a poor educater.

There's a lot of real information out there and I encourage you to take advantage of the blessing which is the Internet to learn.
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- CammyWhite at 20-08-2011 03:41 PM (12 years ago)
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Precious! Calm down! You'll have Harold's and William's knickers in a knot before you know it!
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- PreciousA at 20-08-2011 08:13 PM (12 years ago)
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You're right, Cammy.
I'll admit I was shocked to be called a 'Satanic deceiver' in an open forum.
And by some claiming to be a Christian, to boot.
Facts are facts.
Our history is punctuated with end time prophecies and not one has ever been fulfilled.
Ever.

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- williams100 at 20-08-2011 10:12 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: PreciousA on 20-08-2011 02:20 PM
Quote from: williams100 on 19-08-2011 05:29 PM


affirmitive bro,we are on the same page and i grab the crystal essence from what you are saying.dating back to the time of old,there are not much chaos and problematic sydrome as compared to modern times e.g 16th century was a little peaceful and better than this 21st century.no much of earthquakes,famine,drought,disasters,global warming etc.with the existence of just atomic weapons at this new age alone,i wonder the dessimating outcome/effect that will sprung up in the cause of a global nuclear warfare...hiroshima and nagazaki of 1945 should serve as an important lesson.a nuclear holocaust is not to be toiled and foiled with.perhaps,human beings may use their own hands to torpedo the world to its latter end......


Williams, I hope you're joking here. The world has never been a safer place than it is right now.
Read up about the 16th century and you'll see what I mean.
Does the phrase Black Plague mean anything to you?
That's just to name one of the many plagues which no longer exist.
And not thanks to end times preaching.

Nuclear holocaust?
You've been watching too many movies.
And Hollywood is a poor educater.

There's a lot of real information out there and I encourage you to take advantage of the blessing which is the Internet to learn.



it thus means that you have a two cent of knowledge about the world you live in then.no offence given and none taken...believe you me,you dont want to tell/remind me of the black plague(black death),bubonic plague,fleas and lots more.we all know about the stories,escapades and all.you are very funny you know that??lol!!,am too busy watching too many movies on hollywood??.wow!!that is an outrageous accussation and assumption on your part.military analysis is one of my specialty and i discern infos with thorough sensitivity and cogitation..try to focus on the military world and see things for yourself..NOTE:i did not insinuate but rather,speculate and stimulate a simulation on the probable scenarios in the advent of a nuclear war which is very likely if mankind do not use meticulous approach on global issues.was hiroshima and nagasaki bombing with atomic weapons by the americans in 1945 a hollywood movie???cogitate swiftly where possible please.if you are a recipient to UN(united nation)via on the web,then i urge and implore you to take a look at what they call NNPT(nuclear non-proliferation treaty)and START(strategic arms reduction treaty as well as "united nation nuclear watchdog"activities.the nuclear weapons possessed by the russians alone can wipe the entire world two times over and make it uninhabitable,not to mention that possessed by usa and other nuclear weapon states..according to "bulletin of atomic scientists"china have an icbm called dong feng 5a(df-5a) capable of killing 7.5million people in less than ten seconds.is this a hollywood movie??(chuckle),russia have two icbms called topol m and r-36m otherwise called ss-18 satan respectively.these missiles can travel to any part of the world carrying 8-10 nuclear warhead with a firepower of killing more than 25million people in less than 30seconds is this a hollywood movie as you claim am watching??(chuckle again).the russians have hundreds of them in their nuclear arsenal.if you are interested,subscribe to this site and elevate/broaden your horizon more.....http://www.thebulletin.org/...
finally my friend,a western attack on iran or north korea or vividly still,harbouring the intent of trying to secede the nation of 1.3billion people called china,coupled with causing of more chaos inside the middle-east,will cook for us a recipe for world war III.pray to your GOD and glue to your belief that it never happens otherwise humans might never be able to pick and fix the litters of the then would-be world remnant if not residue......

you said the world has never been a safer place than it is right now really??did world war I and II that killed scores of millions of people around the globe made the world safe???did the british-argentina war over the falkland islands made the world safe??did the golf war,iran-raq war,iraq invasion 2003 made the world safe,did the rise of global warming and scourging heat fastly penetrating the ozone layers down to earth made the world safe??did frequent earthquakes,flooding,landslides,mudslides etc made the 21st century safe or should i say safer???should i pinpoint out the turmoils in africa for us to digest and decipher the variables??am anxious and curious at the same time please;how really safe is iraq,afghanistan and somalia???the world is really safer my friend but,indeed! if you ask me.........
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- williams100 at 20-08-2011 10:28 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on 20-08-2011 03:41 PM
Precious! Calm down! You'll have Harold's and William's knickers in a knot before you know it!

whew!!!!.i must have to sigh in ecstacy with a deep breath(hmmmm).perhaps you should tell her not to put her "panties in a bunch" or so i thought.you should try not to have an anal-retentive manner to make a big fuss out of a relatively minor issue...
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