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Forum / Politics / Sovereign National Conference;Not The Answer |
on: 11-02-2012 11:09 AM
| | I feel very strongly and agitated when people I hold in very high esteem and who are well educated and informed too,descend to a level of reasoning that in my humble opinion,amounts to not only playing to the gallery but would also take very serious toll on our already emasculated and battered economy,as well as tends to circumvent and upset the existing structures upon which the government funct...ions.
Am talking about the call for the convocation of a Sovereign National Conference or National Discuss or whatever name so advanced by these very respectable and distinguished Nigerians in the recent past.Laudable and well thought out as the call may be,I beg to disagree with the proponents and advocates of the cause for the simply reason that it is not the way out of whatever problems,challenges and travails that have bedevilled the country of late.
Going down memory lane,such conferences in the past never yielded any tangible result and this may not be an exception,I stand to be corrected though.Economic analysis and consideration of this call,would weigh against it in the light of the economic realities of the time.I see such conference as nothing but another jamboree; an avenue to waste and further milk our national treasury as were the cases in the past.In my humble opinion,if the proponents and advocates of this cause love Nigeria this much,then let them go ahead and fashion out the way forward on their own and not waiting for/or to be members of a constitutional conference to contribute to nation building.
Constitutionally,since our constitution did not make a provision for the convocation of such conference,it would not only amount to a breach of the constitution but would also,waste the Assembly's precious time trying to make the necessary constitutional requirement to accomodate it.More so,such conference was not captured in this year's Appropriation Bill,so how do we fund it.At least,we want government to cut down her personnel and overhead cost (recurrent expenditure).This has also imposed on us the moral burden to act in that direction if we want to be taken seriously.
What I think should be done is for the proponents and advocates of the call for the convocation of the national conference to discuss on their own,consult widely from all the stakeholders in the country and finally,table their findings,imputs and reccomendations before the National assembly for consideration.This I am very sure would save cost and also,recieve support and commendation from all,rather than stampede government into wasteful spending.Just thinking aloud. | | | | |
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Forum / Naijapals Base (Metro life) / Re: JOKE: Fake Goodluck Jonathan Stoned With Eggs In New York During Protest |
on: 11-01-2012 11:43 PM
| | All those calling Mr. President names in my own opinion are not doing the right thing.If we review the positions of almost majority of speakers in the course of discussing the subsidy removal,you would noticed that all seem to agree that subsidy should go but that the timing is wrong.This being the case,I had expected the NLC,TUC,Civil Societies and their Affiliates to think fast and come up with an alternative instead of strike and protest.This is because the strike and protest may not confer or add value to the country or the masses at the end of the day.I expected Labour to go back on their initial request of N52,000 minimum wage for workers rather than add to the sufferings and hardship of the masses.One thing is clear that both parties at the end of the day must return to the negotiation table after innocent and hapless Nigerians would have been 'brainwashed' to their early graves,non existing utilities destroyed or vandalized,security concerns exacerbated beyond limits,government programmes and policies forced to a halt and almost running aground,the poor deprived and denied rights further nosedive to its lowest ebb and so on.This is not the time for name calling but to reason our way out of this precarious situation and the only way out is dialogue because I believe we still want to continue as a nation.Let us behave like civilized people by stating our points and not attacking the man as this might rob off negatively on our cause no matter how genuine our intentions and issues are.Just thinking aloud fellow compatriots.[/i] | | | | |
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Forum / Family / Man:the Head of the Family...live up to your responsibility. |
on: 27-11-2011 12:30 PM
| | Marriage was instituted by God Himself,therefore it is not man's idea.The marriage institution is bedevilled with lots of problems and crises due to the fact that couples percieve marriage from human stand point rather than from God's idea of the concept.Most men have lost grip of their families and by extension not able to function as heads of their families owing to avoidable mistakes.The scripture in 1Corinthians 11:3 clearly sets the stage for this topic thus:
But I would have you know,that the head of every man is Christ;and the head of the woman is the man;
and the head of Christ is God.
The headship of man in marriage is not a usurpation of some sort but a divine mandate which must not be compromised by the man for whatever reason.It is very unfortunate that some men have lost this authority to their spouses.This is a wake up call to men to rise up to the ocassion.Here are some tips on how to regain authority and function as heads in their homes.
Have A Vision For Your Home
Without vision,there would be no direction.A man must have a vision on how his family should go,what the family should do,when to do it and how to do it.The family should always look up to you as the head for ideas and direction at all times.Your ideas should be able to add value to your family and not the other way round.
Live Up To Your Responsibilities
The man of the house should not just be the man by mere words;or by stressing same to all that cares to listen.He that cannot provide for his family is worst than an infidel.The man must provide for his family materially and spiritually too.As you provide their basic needs,teach them to love and fear God.Displaying your love for your family by discharging your responsibilities to them also imposes the duty of obedience and respect on them.
Be Careful With Your Words
Always be mindful of the words you use when communicating to your family;avoid cursing or abusing them because you are a god to them and being the head,your words have potent force that can alter the course of their lives either for good or bad.Most importantly,be very careful when you discuss your friends,colleagues and even those who hurt you with your spouse so that you do not drag them into issues that are not healthy.
Watch Your Spouses' Friends/Company
The scripture aptly stated that evil association corrupts good manners.Adam was there when the devil came to chat with Eve and did nothing about it and the result we all know.Never allow your spouse in the company of those you do not like.Same goes to your children.Be incharge of your family.
Don't Jealous Or Feel Threatened By Your Spouse's Progress
Some men are threatened by their spouses' progress especially if the latter become breadwinners in the family.This is wrong and should be avoided as much as possible.Love youe spouse and admonish her with the scriptures and reassure her that you are happy with her progress and do not try running her down.The fact that your spouse is richer than you are does not mean you have lost your position as the head.What would make you lose your position is your attitude towards her as a result of her progress.
Do not be a failure,be the head you are in your home. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD NEEDS NO FURTHER PROOF. |
on: 21-10-2011 01:48 PM
| I see you still can't prove what you claim. Bare assertion is not proof. You are not here to watch my proof since you had earlier on indicated that you won't accept video evidence as proof.I would have put the word to work and you watch it come to pass.Perhaps that would be a sufficient of proof reminiscence of the conquest between Prophet Elijah and the prophet of Baal in the days of old.What I mean is that the word of God as contained in the bible is ALIVE in the mouth of A BELIEVER and therefore not mere assertion but A STATEMENT OF FACT.The Bible was written by men. Just reciting its words means nothing. The story of Elijah is mythology from the Dreamtime and proves sweet fox alpha. If you have to resort to myths, then you really have nothing. Where are the qualified doctors who can confirm these miracles? Where are the verifiable x-rays from before and after? Where are the news articles from reputable media outlets reporting on these miracles? There's my challenge. If you see all that,would you believe? | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: THE BIG QUESTION |
on: 21-10-2011 12:46 PM
| | In the same vein, there are Atheists/non-religious folks who accept life as it is and are not bothered about any explanation on the origin of life (either evolutionary or religious). I fall into that category.
So how exactly is life? | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD NEEDS NO FURTHER PROOF. |
on: 21-10-2011 11:15 AM
| I see you still can't prove what you claim. Bare assertion is not proof.
You are not here to watch my proof since you had earlier on indicated that you won't accept video evidence as proof.I would have put the word to work and you watch it come to pass.Perhaps that would be a sufficient of proof reminiscence of the conquest between Prophet Elijah and the prophet of Baal in the days of old.What I mean is that the word of God as contained in the bible is ALIVE in the mouth of A BELIEVER and therefore not mere assertion but A STATEMENT OF FACT. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: I can prove christianity is fake (Page 41) |
on: 21-10-2011 09:05 AM
| @hosbert
Your mentality is "slave mentality".
You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning.
When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else.
A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose.
HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means.
Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!!
Reason this...........please!!!
I think I have tolerated your impudence much enough.In every argument,there are always two oppossing sides trying to persuade eachother to accept their different positions and not insulting another for whatever reason.Now reason this out.In the world today,even as free moral agents there are code of behaviour whereby if you live by it in your given setting,you don't get into trouble with the authority and if you fail to respector abide by this code because you are free,you get punished right? I give you another scenario.Let us assume that everybody wants university education but only those who posses the requisite admission requirements make it into the university.Now even when one is offered admission,if you do not obey school rules and regulations or fail to meet up with the academic standard what happens? As christians,the scripture talks about a place of rest that God is preparing for those who believe in Jesus and worships Him (God) as their Father in John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. The scripture further said in Hebrews 3:18-19 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. The only qualification for entering into the rest of God is believe.What do you believe in? Romans 10:9-10 is very clear on that thus: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Allow the spirit of God minister to your spirit as you read and medidtate on these words and watch the transformation that would take place in your life.Believe these words because the spirit of God is ministering to you.God bless you in Jesus name,amen. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD NEEDS NO FURTHER PROOF. |
on: 21-10-2011 08:23 AM
| We're not arguing about the existence of Yahweh or the Aesir; I've said that I don't have any problem with Yahweh's existence. We're arguing about your lack of evidence for your really bizarre claims. Don't try to move the goalposts again.
About your own religion what evidence do you have? I have never shifted or extended my argument.I only respond to issues you and others raised in the course of our discussion.I cannot claim to understand your Aesir morethan you and if I call your claim about your religion as 'really bizarre',am I objective? I bet you,some religion if they are as open as christians in their mode of worship,access to information about their activities and so on, something really bizarre would have been discovered.What your statement as quoted above simply means you already know what christianity is all about and you don't need any more enlightenment.I challenge you to educate non-worshippers of Aesir on who who/she is and let us see what happens at the end of the day. You claimed to have hard evidence of documented miracles. That's what is really bizarre; not the worship. Just stick to the point. Let's face it.The bible made it clear in Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. If a christian now use the name of Jesus and people get healed of their ailments as the scripture already said,you call it bizarre.I want you to understand this,the evidence I talked about is not necessarily the healing but the use of the name Jesus as the medium for the healing.Simple logic:Jesus said "In my name,they shall lay hands on the sick,and they shall recover In the name of Jesus,hands were laid on the sick and they recovered Therefore,the word of Jesus is the TRUTH. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: I can prove christianity is fake |
on: 20-10-2011 02:42 PM
| I've often wondered why it doesn't read "few choose". Saying "are chosen" seems to rule out free will.
Good you said 'seems to rule out free will' that means you already know that free will is not ruled out.John 3:16 has the answer to that thus: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. So you do have a choice and by extension,free will.Yes salvation is open to all,however only the few who accept this offer and live by the newness of life that Christ brought will be saved at the end of time.You may wish to consider these scriptures in Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Salvation is a choice,a free will. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD NEEDS NO FURTHER PROOF. |
on: 20-10-2011 02:23 PM
| We're not arguing about the existence of Yahweh or the Aesir; I've said that I don't have any problem with Yahweh's existence. We're arguing about your lack of evidence for your really bizarre claims. Don't try to move the goalposts again.
About your own religion what evidence do you have? I have never shifted or extended my argument.I only respond to issues you and others raised in the course of our discussion.I cannot claim to understand your Aesir morethan you and if I call your claim about your religion as 'really bizarre',am I objective? I bet you,some religion if they are as open as christians in their mode of worship,access to information about their activities and so on, something really bizarre would have been discovered.What your statement as quoted above simply means you already know what christianity is all about and you don't need any more enlightenment.I challenge you to educate non-worshippers of Aesir on who who/she is and let us see what happens at the end of the day. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: THE EXISTENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN GOD NEEDS NO FURTHER PROOF. (Page 13) |
on: 20-10-2011 12:10 PM
| | Hold the smug there, Bubba-Louie - you're the one who was tossing around the bafflegab about evidence (miraculously regrown wombs, for example); it's up to you to give evidence for your claims.
Cammywhite
from whatever angle you are considering this,this i know: christianity is worth my smugness and I have to stand up to what I know is the truth irrespective of what anyone thinks,feels or says about it.If I come up tommorrow that your religion is fake or that you should proof to me that the god of your religion do exists and counter every point adduced without proffering a better position than what you already know about your religion;wont you consider the contrary views as mere jive?
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Forum / Religion / Re: If you say christianity is fake, you are mad |
on: 20-10-2011 11:33 AM
| I don't think that Christianity is fake; it just isn't the only game in town, and its adherents need to remember that. There is a misunderstanding here.Some christians may not have exhibited traits of true christianity but this does not imply that christianity is fake.Even in religious circles,their followership still do not adhere to the tenents of their religion and one cannot for this singular reason tag them fake. I SAID that I don't think Christianity is fake. This statement is no doubt different from the one I commented on. If what I said didn't relate to your post, why quote me? [bI don't think that Christianity is fake; it just isn't the only game in town, and its adherents need to remember that. ][/b] and I SAID that I don't think Christianity is fake.
These are two different statements. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: I can prove christianity is fake |
on: 20-10-2011 11:25 AM
| Christians can't kill?
Who was doing the bulk of the killing in Bosnia? It wasn't the Moslems, I can tell you - it was done by Christian Serbs..
Christian priests took part in the killings in Rwanda.
I could go on, but I've made my point. @Cammywhite when we stop twisting arguments just to serve our purpose(s),then our grasp of the subject of discuss would not be biased and our imputs would as well be objective.You did imply in one of your posts that there are fakes in every religion and if you know so,it follows that those who killed were not christians but claim to be.Christians actually are dead to the flesh;this means they are not moved by the mundane things of the world system just like Christ.They live Christlike and Jesus never killed when he was here or fought any war.Most people claim christianity while they are not.I have said that the church buildings,wearing of cassocks,or colar or robes is not a qualification to being a christian or pastor.Let us get this things straight. It's quite possible to be a Christian and to be a killer. You're shifting the goalposts constantly to whitewash Christians. I have met Christians, and by your "definition", NOT ONE OF THEM WAS A REAL CHRISTIAN. If Christians are not moved by the mundane things of the world then they shouldn't be in politics or government, for example. Many are called but few are chosen. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: I can prove christianity is fake |
on: 20-10-2011 09:37 AM
| Christians can't kill?
Who was doing the bulk of the killing in Bosnia? It wasn't the Moslems, I can tell you - it was done by Christian Serbs..
Christian priests took part in the killings in Rwanda.
I could go on, but I've made my point.
@Cammywhite when we stop twisting arguments just to serve our purpose(s),then our grasp of the subject of discuss would not be biased and our imputs would as well be objective.You did imply in one of your posts that there are fakes in every religion and if you know so,it follows that those who killed were not christians but claim to be.Christians actually are dead to the flesh;this means they are not moved by the mundane things of the world system just like Christ.They live Christlike and Jesus never killed when he was here or fought any war.Most people claim christianity while they are not.I have said that the church buildings,wearing of cassocks,or colar or robes is not a qualification to being a christian or pastor.Let us get this things straight. @Hosbert, I think Cammy's statement is clear, though I see you have a problem of closed mindedness. I don't think that Christianity is fake; it just isn't the only game in town, and its adherents need to remember that.
Your inability to open your mind makes it hard to reason or discuss with you as you cannot reason. Like I said earlier, to reason is the process of using your mind to consider something carefully. If your mind is already entrapped in christianity, and you are so confused as to wether christianity is a religion or a way of life of the Jews known as Isrealites. Then am sure I will be wasting precious time dscussing with you. Thanks for your input anyway, but i am not amused as you fail to answer my questions but digress into preaching from the bible and claiming statements are too muddled up for you to see clearly. If you can alter statements from your mind that Christians dont kill. Then I am sure you will continue to the point of claiming Africans should thank their colonial masters. I have no time really for such people as I stated and quote again "Please I employ you to not take me that way of having to argue on this topic only from the context of one book we all know is not written by GOD and could not have survived in a book form for 500 years without crumbling into dust."If GOD really wrote the bible, then he is a stupid fool or a liar as he created shit!! nadda!! nothing!! You wont answer that of who came first, Adam's creation or the sending of Lucifer out of Heaven. This will tell you something is wrong with the biblical account. Secondly, why I say confidently GOD is a FOOL is cos he did not even know who was created first 1) the plants and vegetation, or 2) Adam the human. Genesis 111 Then God said, “ Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning— the third day. 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. Genesis 2Adam and Eve 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. 5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. 8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The very obvious question here will be WHICH CAME FIRST, MAN OR THE PLANTS?A VERY REASONABLE PERSON WILL WONDER HOW GOD'S WORDS IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO COULD CONTRADICT EACH OTHER I can see how open your mind is as well as your reasonability.You are so engrossed with 'sense knowledge' such that what is beyond your sensory perception,you criticise and condemn.If you are open to learning and reasoning,you would have not said that am confused because all the materials you have referred to in the course of discussing your thread are books written by others.So what justification do have disputing my reference to the bible whether it is written by God or man.You have chosen to be blind to the inconsistencies in such books that are actually products of trial and error.You can continue to wonder how God created the world but do not drag me into wondering with you.The bible already provided an answer. I still do remember that the topic and it is not about inconsistencies in the bible or whether God wrote it or not.When you bring up this issue in may be a new thread,then we will see to that.I still remember that logic is divided into deductive and inductive reasoning and whereas deductive reasoning concerns what follows necessarily from given premises (if a, then b); inductive reasoning involves the process of deriving a reliable generalization from observations.However,an inference is deductively valid if and only if there is no possible situation in which all the premises are true but the conclusion false. An inductive argument can be neither valid nor invalid; its premises give only some degree of probability, but not certainty, to its conclusion.You arguments so far,negates this simple facts of logic because logic and reasoning is nothing other than if...then.If God said Christ would die and resurrect after three days and it happened just like He said,then He (God) exists.Simple logic. | | | | |
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Forum / Religion / Re: If you say christianity is fake, you are mad |
on: 19-10-2011 03:10 PM
| I don't think that Christianity is fake; it just isn't the only game in town, and its adherents need to remember that. There is a misunderstanding here.Some christians may not have exhibited traits of true christianity but this does not imply that christianity is fake.Even in religious circles,their followership still do not adhere to the tenents of their religion and one cannot for this singular reason tag them fake. I SAID that I don't think Christianity is fake. This statement is no doubt different from the one I commented on. | | | | |
