ok since you said that i am not quiting, what else if not christanity, nice one.
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Quote from: rbest on 11-08-2009 09:50 AM if u are tired u quit, afterall is not by force. if not christanity what else? ok since you said that i am not quiting, what else if not christanity, nice one. HAPPY ENDING
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Quote from: dguy on 13-10-2008 11:56 PM Is it true the real Jehova witnesses do not approve getting blood from donors? -- if so why? #is true but i dont know why but i can ask if u wanna know why
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Quote from: rbest on 16-04-2009 03:57 PM am not a member and hav never asked why okay Life is one big road with lots of signs, so when you are riding through th
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Quote from: lonelyzeal on 15-10-2008 02:37 PM khadijah, it is a big lie that Jehovah's witnesses don't believe in hospital.they only don't believe in transfusing and donating blood which is against there belief and biblical injunction of respect for life and blood.come to think of it, all the implications and complications of blood transfusion,despite it being screened, people still get infected with Hiv and all other blood related illness.how safe is safe blood?use you head. i believe in what you said up there but one more thing, getting infected with the deadly disease has to do with the kind of hospital and how good they screened the blood, i think when such thing happen in abroad ( getting infected) alot of people ( doctors and people that were involved in the transfussion process) has to face the consequences and its really very rare here to get infected
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Quote from: Dejavu on 15-10-2008 09:57 AM haba khadijah. that's not correct. you don't have to call d dog a bad name only to hang it! JW's are doctors, police officers, scientists, business-admins... name it. except soldiers. in simple terms, JW's adhere strictly to every biblical injunction. same for blood. They believe the Bible's command @ (Acts 15:28, 29) that Christians must "abstain from blood" anyone can contest this believe in whatever form. perhaps only one who's well rooted in medicine/surgery will give candid unbiased view about the issues concerned. Misinterpretation.
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these people have reached here too.please admin take quick action because this was how they spoilt lagbaja forum till today Reply
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I'm staying on the topic here... ReplyJW's don't believe in blood transfusion is a fact. I've learnt in life to respect pple's beliefs, no matter how dumb dey may sound. Medically speaking, the decision to refuse blood transfusion is insane, there are simply conditions u need blood to correct (anaemic heart failure for instance). Some pple may argue and have indeed argued that its better to lose a life than disobey Jehovah...but I personally believe that if the same Jehovah being preached is as merciful as He is, he wouldn't stand and watch an innocent child die of a curable condition. Fact is science unlike religion is dynamic and also people who wrote the bible are first and foremost MEN...the inspiration is secondary. And I'm sure I'm not wrong when I say some people in the JW have indeed snuck to hospitals at nite to allow their children receive blood (the only way to save them barring a miracle)...and at worst, change denominations. thats my take, as disjointed as it may sound
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Brizio this is ne nice one.....i actually consider this as wicked!!! ReplyGet up and run!!!
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Hey man wrong thread!!! ReplyGet up and run!!!
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Quote from: Uzzy on 25-10-2009 11:06 PM Hey man wrong thread!!! no longthing
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Quote from: Temmysam on 12-10-2009 10:43 AM am not sure about that. poster go through reading At the turn of the 20th. century, a chance encounter brought a retired chartered accountant with a former laboratory technician now a spiritual healer. For myriad ailments and diseases, particularly as they relate to the blood, a single remedy, sourced from local herbs, was administered. ADETUTU FOLASADEKOYI reports how this herbal remedy, Jubi Blood Formula, has helped in anemic cases, resolving some blood-related diseases and is now relevant in the medicine of the millennium that is antagonistic to blood transfusion and surgery. The sun would appear to be smiling near high tide for Jubi Blood Formula, once the rejected builder’s corner stone which the makers, defiant of Doubting Thomas medics, have been struggling to position as an option to blood transfusion. The Nigerian market has been slow in accepting it. Doctors were at first unyielding even in the face of startling evidence that this wonderful herb stimulates the body to make blood faster than anything known so far by man. But, now, all that is changing. For not only do they prescribe Jubi, they themselves use it! What must gladden Chief Kolawole Awoyemi, Jubi’s discoverer, and Mr. Olajuwon Okubena, the chartered accountant who took it to the laboratory and to the market-place the most is the prospect of this product finally finding favor with a large body of group users. Already, many a sickle cell club across Nigeria are on board. And the prospects of an endorsement by the Jehovah’s witness sect is high. The prospect has just come from Ajaokuta, where a Jehovah’s Witness in dire need of blood transfusion opted for death. But Dr. Victor Umoh, of Township clinic, Ajaokuta, Kogi State, would not let his patient die unnecessarily. He dispatched an urgent SOS message to Lagos. And, pronto, he got packs of Jubi. Dr. Umoh reports his first encounter with Jubi: M. A., who lives in Ajaokuta, was rushed into the clinic on September 21, 1999, with internal bleeding due to a ruptured ectopic pregnancy. This was severe, and she was lapsing into unconsciousness. The usual management of the situation is to quickly operate and then to replace the blood loss by transfusion. Her PCV (packed cell volume) that day was 25 per cent, though it is known that this will drop by the time her system adjusted to the blood loss.. The operation to stop the bleeding was successfully done that same day but her relations objected to blood transfusion for her. She is a Jehovah’s witness. This was a dilemma because the following day, her PCV turned out to be 10 per cent. Now, she was fully conscious and was fortunate in that her bowel sounds returned early and she was put on Jubi, two capsules, three times daily. Two days after starting Jubi, her PCV was 13 per cent, and nine days later she was out of danger because her PCV had risen to 18 per cent. Even while her PCV was less than that, she felt strong. For fear that she might collapse if she got up from the bed, the medical team advised her to remain in bed and not get up without assistance. She started to ignore this advice without any adverse effect three days after surgery when her PCV was still around 11 per cent. At her final check up at our out patient clinic on October 8, 1999 her PCV was 25 per cent. She had remained on Jubi Formula one capsule daily till then. This case has emboldened us when it comes to giving treatment without the use of blood. There are several other patients who have also benefited from Jubi Formula capsule or powder, given in place of blood transfusion. Most sickle cell patients who received Jubi Formula always come back to ask for more of it. K. A.(names have been changed on request) is a 28 year old sickler who lives in Kaduna. She began to use Jubi Formula in October 1999. Before then, she suffered bone pain crisis at two weekly intervals during any harmattan season. Since she started taking Jubi Formula at the rate of one capsule a day, there has been only one crisis during the last harmattan season and this was not serious. Usually, she would have pain in the joints and waist. According to her, the other benefit she has derived from taking Jubi Formula is that she is stronger and can do more at work and around the house. She is a lot more active and has decided to keep on taking the Formula. For Bible based reasons, Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse blood transfusions. But they do accept and vigorously pursue medical alternatives to blood. Happiness Maduakor, a Jehovah’s witness, explains why blood transfusion is a no-no: “Blood is sacred in God’s eyes. God says that the soul, or life, is in the blood. It is wrong to accept blood transfusion. Jehovah requires that we abstain from blood. This means that we must not take into our bodies in any way, other people’s blood or even our own blood that has been stored. Jehovah’s Witnesses accept other kinds of mechanical treatment, such as transfusion of non-blood products like dextran, saline or hetarch and other non-blood management.” The attendant risks Happiness may be referring to could be segxwally transmitted diseases, HIV, the virus that can lead to AIDS. Hepatitis B or even suffering from immune reactions when another person’s blood is transfused. Sharon Googer’s case is another practical example. Spiritually, Sharon Googer was a vibrant woman, a Jehovah’s Witness who prayed every day. But physically, Googer, 43, was dying. A virus had attacked her heart’s lining, causing symptoms including nausea and shortness of breath. “It was as if (my heart) was encrusted in cement,” she said. But her doctors could offer no assurance that she would survive the needed operation without a blood transfusion. And Googer refused to veer from her religious belief barring the use of stored blood. That left her with two options: prayer and research.“Both worked,” she said. Googer discovered a new bloodless surgical program that began earlier this month at Atlanta Medical Center. The program uses a combination of drugs, surgical techniques and special equipment to reduce the amount of blood lost during surgery and hence the need for blood transfusions. Within six days, Googer was recuperating at home, health in body and soul. But Mr. Olajuwon Okubena is convinced all these ‘risks’ could be curtailed with Jubi Formula (now Jobelyn), a combination of some local herbs. “These risks are virtually non-existent”, he says. Pharmaceutical product analysis conducted at the Biochemistry department of the School of Pharmacy, College of Medicine, of the University of Lagos, CMUL, Idi-Araba, Lagos, confirmed that “JubiFormula (now Jobelyn) is very effective, not only in restoring haematocrit level quickly but it also has effect on the immune system.” Laboratory reports say JubiFormula (now Jobelyn) has the potential to be a substitute for blood transfusion because of rapidity of restoring blood levels. “Research studies show that within 24 hours of administering this compound, the packed cells volume (PCV) is increased by as much as 15 per cent, even under very serious challenging disease conditions.” JubiFormula (now Jobelyn) improves not only the red blood cells (RBC) count but also works
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Quote from: night_sky on 10-03-2009 11:18 PM Does anyone know about that case in the uk. This girl, think she was 15 and was sick (don't remember what she had) and said she didn't want either a blood transfusion or an organ that could possibly save her life (again, don't remember which, but think it was a blood transfusion) b/c she was a Jehova's witness and her parents stood by her and said it was her choice. A lotta pple said they were the ones who were behind the whole thing. Anyways, I'm wondering what happened to her...if she died....sure some of u uk pple wud know... You know she changed her mind later? Read up on the case.
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Quote from: lonelyzeal on 15-10-2008 02:48 PM khadijah, it is a big lie that Jehovah's witnesses don't believe in hospital.They make use of every medical facility so long as it does not conflict with the principles laid down in the bible.that will mean committing suicide if you don't go to hospital and that is one crime that is not associated with the witnesses. They believe the Bible's command @ (Acts 15:28, 29) that Christians must "abstain from blood".come to think of all the complications of blood transfusion.people still get infected with infections through blood transfusion. so the question here is, "how safe is safe blood?" You are right
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Quote from: saffronsharon on 15-10-2008 04:05 PM d answer is just explained in this bible portion(Acts 15:28, 29) that Christians must "abstain from blood". I believe you brother,i have seen dem as good people,humbe to the core 4 their xtian faith which is strictly based on d bible,no body is compelled 2 adhere,rather d reverencial fear of GOD is wat will keep u from tinking otherwise. Jehovahs witnesses are down to earth a nice religion to belong. your spiritual life will be biult.and dat is 4all those who value spiritual tins. tanks am out.......................SAFFRON
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