The issue of violence and religion

Date: 22-06-2011 12:53 am (12 years ago) | Author: sweetberry lomo
- at 22-06-2011 12:53 AM (12 years ago)
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 Islam and violence- The issue of violence and religion has once again come into intense discussions and debate. it seem that Muslims commit more crime than Christian. if we look at the event of September 11, Omar Farooq al et al. To me it seem that islam allow violent violence. what do you think?
Does islamic support violent?

The following are only some of the verses in the Qur'an that can and have been used in the history of Islam in support of violence in the name of God and the glories of martyrdom in a holy war.

2:190-193 "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you ... And slay them wherever ye catch them ... And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in God ..."

2:216 "Fighting is prescribed for you and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth and ye know not."

2:224 "Then fight in the cause of God and know that God heareth and knoweth all things."

3:157-158 "And if ye are slain or die in the way of God, forgiveness and mercy from God are far better than all they could amass. And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! It is unto God that ye are brought together."

3:169 "Think not of those who are slain in God's way as dead. Nay, they live finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord."

3:195 "... Those who have ... fought or been slain, verily I will blot out from them their iniquities and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing beneath; a reward from the presence of God ..."

4:101 "... For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."

4:74, 75 "Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of God whether he is slain or gets victory, soon shall we give him a reward of great (value). Those who believe fight in the cause of God and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil, so fight ye against the friends of Satan, feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan."

4:89 "They but wish that ye should reject faith as they do, and thus be on the same footing as they. But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of God. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them…"

4:95 "Not equal are those believers who sit at (at home) and receive no hurt and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home).

5:36 "The punishment of those who wage war against God and His apostle and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land. That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter."

5:54 "O ye who believe. Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust."

8:12-17 "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them. This because they contend against God and his apostle. If any contend against God and his apostle, God is strict in punishment ... O ye who believe. When ye meet the unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day, unless it be a stratagem of war ... he draws on himself the wrath of God and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge (indeed)."

8:59-60 "Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly). They will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of God and your enemies and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know ..."

8:65 "O apostle! Rouse the believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred. If a hundred they will vanquish a thousand of the unbelievers, for these are a people without understanding."

9:5 "... fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) ..."

9:14 "Fight them, and God will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame ..."

9:29 "Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and his apostle nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay the Jizya [religious tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

47:4 "Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks, at length when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them) ... but if it had been God's will, he could certainly have exacted retribution from them (himself), but (he lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the way of God, he will never let their deeds be lost."

61:4 "Truly God loves those who fight in His cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."

Posted: at 22-06-2011 12:53 AM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
- chik001 at 23-06-2011 07:24 PM (12 years ago)
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...Everyone knows that the Islamic religion was and still is the ONLY religion that believe in the use of violence as a means to an end...
Posted: at 23-06-2011 07:24 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- frayobkk at 24-06-2011 05:11 AM (12 years ago)
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Offcouse yes ....like a devoted muslim have tell me that the book of quram thought then that
If you kill non believer that means if u comit sucise bomber and die with non islams ALA will not jodge
You will go heaven straigh without jogement. and i ask him what about the man that thought u that did he did the same i mean Mohamade
did u die in sucise bomb . the answer is NO who is decieving who then ...

If u ask some islam the will tell u that there is not like that .. and i learn that this quram is only writen in Arabic bc i have try if
i can see it online to read then to know more but no way

Posted: at 24-06-2011 05:11 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- tttonero at 24-06-2011 06:18 AM (12 years ago)
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Religion is responsible for death, all over the world.
Posted: at 24-06-2011 06:18 AM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
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- frayobkk at 24-06-2011 08:27 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: tttonero on 24-06-2011 06:18 AM
Religion is responsible for death, all over the world.

so now u ar not longerpointing finger on christian
is not about all regions in tirely ,, men u are comfuse i read many of ur comment i cant even understand if u are
into any religion at all maybe probable u are the type that say there is no GOD ,,i

Posted: at 24-06-2011 08:27 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- DELAT at 24-06-2011 02:16 PM (12 years ago)
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What did you want say about Irland?Are they not the same christian?
There are lot of verse that support violence in bible too,but let me
tell you Islam is pro-life not violence.
Posted: at 24-06-2011 02:16 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming
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- chik001 at 24-06-2011 06:04 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: DELAT on 24-06-2011 02:16 PM
What did you want say about Irland?Are they not the same christian?
There are lot of verse that support violence in bible too,but let me
tell you Islam is pro-life not violence.
...if I ask which verses now...they will bombard me with The Old Testament...
Posted: at 24-06-2011 06:04 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 25-06-2011 04:59 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 24-06-2011 06:04 PM
Quote from: DELAT on 24-06-2011 02:16 PM
What did you want say about Irland?Are they not the same christian?
There are lot of verse that support violence in bible too,but let me
tell you Islam is pro-life not violence.
...if I ask which verses now...they will bombard me with The Old Testament...
isn't it part of your Bible?
Posted: at 25-06-2011 04:59 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 26-06-2011 09:17 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: mubaji on 25-06-2011 04:59 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 24-06-2011 06:04 PM
Quote from: DELAT on 24-06-2011 02:16 PM
What did you want say about Irland?Are they not the same christian?
There are lot of verse that support violence in bible too,but let me
tell you Islam is pro-life not violence.
...if I ask which verses now...they will bombard me with The Old Testament...
isn't it part of your Bible?

...Christianity is routed in the New testament...which is devoid of violence but "loving thy neighbour as thyself"...according to Jesus The Christ principles...
Posted: at 26-06-2011 09:17 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- morgrawl231 at 11-04-2016 06:51 PM (8 years ago)
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Dont let us beat about d bush,,,Islam itsef is evil and practiced by evil doers,,,
Posted: at 11-04-2016 06:51 PM (8 years ago) | Hero
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- kison at 30-06-2016 04:45 PM (7 years ago)
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JUST CONTINUE TO BE CAREFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL……………………………….
Posted: at 30-06-2016 04:45 PM (7 years ago) | Hero
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