Question? Is Mohammed really a prophet or a jihad? (Page 2)

Date: 31-12-2011 1:31 pm (12 years ago) | Author: Justus izebhijie
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- dalaitan1 at 8-01-2012 04:53 PM (12 years ago)
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I dn't fink we need more xplanation ova d prophethood of muhammed, cos d bibld says "ye shal know d truth and the truth shal set you free" cos in d quran there are lot of mix up which d muslims are try 2 cover up with diffrent commentarys but thank God for learned schoolars like G.J.O MOSHAY. I fink any1 willing to know more abt muhammed and islam shuld try and read dis books by him
Anatomy of the Quran and Who is this Allah by G.J.O MOSHAY. Happy reading
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- jaykay123 at 10-01-2012 09:51 PM (12 years ago)
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They even revere the name of mohamed more than their god. Say samtin negative abt their god & they'll do notin but just spell mohamedi wrongly & they'll start kllling. I just dnt understand
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- mubaji at 11-01-2012 04:23 PM (12 years ago)
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@ all those who commented,
thanks for dropping a comment; be it provable ot ortherwise.


as for the non-muslims who dropped positive comments, it's your likes that ALLAH says in Quran 60 verse 8, i quote:

"Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just."
i.e HE (Allah) doesn't forbid you from been kind to non muslims who aren't against you. so big Kudos to you all and i pray we can continue like this for the sake of ourselves, our nation and the generation at whole. keep it up.

as for the biased  non-muslims, the law of nature states that "whatever thy sow is what you'll reap" so if you say fallacies or blaspheme others religion; expect someone to do so to your religion too, even if not the people of the religion you blasphemed.

above all, let's preach peace so we can live in and also have peace and not pieces.
Posted: at 11-01-2012 04:23 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 11-01-2012 04:58 PM (12 years ago)
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now responding to the question on ground. i advise mr poster to open his mind and leave his prejudice aside. hence, even if you don't accept the truth you'll leave MUSLIMS alone with their prophet and whatever they believe.

firstly, the poster's definition is a partial one unlike the Islamic definition which is more detailed than what the poster wrote. YES, a prophet prophecises but that is not his major nor only duty. meanwhile, let me refer you to a similar topic posted by a christian (as i guess), a non sentimental, lovely and just christian. the topic is: Is Muhammad a messenger or prophet? you can follow this link to easily get it //www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,43819.0.html.

in Islam, a prophet is the One who delivers Go's messages based on a fore-prophet/mesenger's principle or law i.e a prophet doesn't come with a new book nor message, he only confirms the message of the prophet or messenger before him. Hence in Islam, Harun (Aron) is a prophet not a messenger while Musa (Moses) is a messenger.

perhaps you'll like to know who a messenger is according to Islamic scholars; follow the link earlier given to do so.
Posted: at 11-01-2012 04:58 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mubaji at 11-01-2012 05:07 PM (12 years ago)
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now, here are few things Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) prophecised. He said it since more than 1,430 years ago; some have come to be while some shall come to be. all these were mentioned in different sayings of His (PBUH). Read and ponder:-


Camels will no longer be used as a means of transport;

People will ride on saddles that aren't saddles (cars?)

The distance on earth will become short;

Horses will not be used in wars;

Muslims will defeat the Byzantines which will end with the conquest of Constantinople( Istanbul )

The Jews will gather again to live in Bilad Canaan;

Very tall buildings will be built;

The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance, with much killing;

Adultery will become widespread, and the drinking of wine will become common;

The number of men will decrease and the number of women will increase until there are 50 women to be looked after by one man.

Islam will become worn out like clothes are, until no one will know what fasting, prayer, charity and rituals are;

Allah will send a disease to fornicators that will have no cure;

People will begin to believe in the stars and reject AL QADAR (THE DIVINE DECREE OF DESTINY);

Men will pass by people's graves and say: 'Would that I was in his place';

The Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold for which people will fight over (the river of Alfurat that lies near Syria ).


and among others.
Posted: at 11-01-2012 05:07 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- jaykay123 at 15-01-2012 05:44 AM (12 years ago)
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hmm, na wah o! The english word  'prophet now hv xtian & islamic definition abi?  Do u call som of those tins divine prophecy? Y ar u embarassing mohamed?  Its like any1 comin out now to say in d future, cars wil no longer use petrol. Even science fictions make predictions dat hv bcom reality, it dosnt take divine revelation to knw those tins. As 4 d women becom mor than men & som odas, the bible has alredy contained those prophesy. I told u wen he went to dat cave, he took a bible wt him. Its d iaolation dat got into him & satan used his idle mind to stat writin down confusion & named it quran.
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- jaykay123 at 15-01-2012 05:44 AM (12 years ago)
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hmm, na wah o! The english word  'prophet now hv xtian & islamic definition abi?  Do u call som of those tins divine prophecy? Y ar u embarassing mohamed?  Its like any1 comin out now to say in d future, cars wil no longer use petrol. Even science fictions make predictions dat hv bcom reality, it dosnt take divine revelation to knw those tins. As 4 d women becom mor than men & som odas, the bible has alredy contained those prophesy. I told u wen he went to dat cave, he took a bible wt him. Its d iaolation dat got into him & satan used his idle mind to stat writin down confusion & named it quran.
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- mubaji at 16-01-2012 01:13 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: jaykay123 on 15-01-2012 05:44 AM
hmm, na wah o! The english word  'prophet now hv xtian & islamic definition abi?  Do u call som of those tins divine prophecy? Y ar u embarassing mohamed?  Its like any1 comin out now to say in d future, cars wil no longer use petrol. Even science fictions make predictions dat hv bcom reality, it dosnt take divine revelation to knw those tins. As 4 d women becom mor than men & som odas, the bible has alredy contained those prophesy. I told u wen he went to dat cave, he took a bible wt him. Its d iaolation dat got into him & satan used his idle mind to stat writin down confusion & named it quran.
no be only wa sef na waya. I know you are not here to accept anything from anyone and no one can force you to do so. yet, i'll still the truth in which i believe like other Muslims too. now listen:
1- if your religion doesn't have it's terminologies then let those who have define theirs according to their doctrine and stick to your own religion which relies on frequent dictionary updates to explain divine wishes. religion is for God and for God is divine. i don't know who is more knowledgeable; the americans/british or uncle paul, matthew, sam and among others who wrote the bible. save yourself giving an answer because i already know that since long ago. since the christians (africans in particular) see europeans as the ones who spread biblical teachings then they regard them to know better than anyone hence whichever language the bible is written must correspond with what the americans/british wants so terms like prophet must be defined according to longman, oxford or other dictionary publishers. please feel free, it's your religion and let us (Muslims) be free too.
2- believe it or not, the aforementioned are prophecies. you won't believe in Islamic proofs so there is no point quoting. but i think if you read from sound history books, you'll get facts like that there was no sayer of most of those prophecies as at the time my Beloved Prophet of Islam lived. infact, no scientific discoveries then. so, saying such facts as at that time is 100% nothing but a confirmation that his sayings were and will remain a divine revelation. check your so called scientific books and see when what we call science discoveries started to save yourself from this ignorance. don't forget to know the exact time Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) lived.
3- concerning some facts contained in the bible, they are all proofs that Prophet Muhammad didn't bring something new. rather, He is threading the path of his predecessors which Prophet Isa (may the peace of Allah be upon Him) i.e Jesus, happens to be one of them. hear what Allah says in this verse, meaning:
To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee.... Q 5 vs 48
in another verse:
And before this, was the Book of Moses as a guide and a mercy: And this Book confirms (it) in the Arabic tongue; to admonish the unjust, and as Glad Tidings to those who do right. Q46 vs 12
so what all these imply is that: Quran is not the first book to be revealed and since the revelations come from the same God, there is probability to find repitition or similarity.

peace unto those who deserve peace.
Posted: at 16-01-2012 01:13 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- BONZ at 17-01-2012 03:13 PM (12 years ago)
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Mashaa Allah brother mubaji. May Allah bless you for this post. This gentleman u addressed is just here to make a mockery of our faith. His heart is enclosed and possibly might never come to know the truth until it's too late.

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- CammyWhite at 17-01-2012 09:24 PM (12 years ago)
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I'll say this for Yeshua; at least he didn't marry a nine-year old!
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- jaykay123 at 17-01-2012 11:34 PM (12 years ago)
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Imagine the world without islam...
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- jaykay123 at 17-01-2012 11:48 PM (12 years ago)
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I cant really undastand, why would God send Jesus, who ur religion recognise as a messenger to com and start a religion & then later send anoda person whom u pple call mohamed to com & establish a different & conflicting teaching, If both are sent by God aa messengers, y do they teach different doctrines. Let me tell u... Other prophets in d old testament prophesied abt the comin of Jesus Christ & for wat purpose he wil com. None eva prophesied abt mohamed, he just came out of the blue. I'll say satan saw a chance in him & used it, bcos even an insane man knows that if ther was no muslem religion, the world wil be a more peaceful place. A religion dat endorse violence as a means of spreading it course 'JIHAD' is notin but satanic.
Wen i was younger, there was this malam dat can prepare a charm 4 u by readin a passage of the quran & writing from it on your palm, once u touch a gal wt dat hand, she follows u home & wont know wat she's doin until afta uve slept wt her. Such is the evil written in dat demonic book. Ive seen it work. Mohamed is neva & wil neva be a prophet. He cld b a messenger of ur god but neva of the true God who is father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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- jaykay123 at 19-01-2012 03:00 AM (12 years ago)
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@data... Ure rite ny friend, the principles of religious intolerance advicated by mohamed stil applies to ur religion 2day, dats y we hv so mch troubles. Do u knw dat the most troubled part of the world id midddle east/arab region?  Ur god must be very xtremely violent. Ours is loving & kind.
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- mubaji at 20-01-2012 08:28 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: jaykay123 on 17-01-2012 11:48 PM
I cant really undastand, why would God send Jesus, who ur religion recognise as a messenger to com and start a religion & then later send anoda person whom u pple call mohamed to com & establish a different & conflicting teaching, If both are sent by God aa messengers, y do they teach different doctrines. Let me tell u... Other prophets in d old testament prophesied abt the comin of Jesus Christ & for wat purpose he wil com. None eva prophesied abt mohamed, he just came out of the blue. I'll say satan saw a chance in him & used it, bcos even an insane man knows that if ther was no muslem religion, the world wil be a more peaceful place. A religion dat endorse violence as a means of spreading it course 'JIHAD' is notin but satanic.
Wen i was younger, there was this malam dat can prepare a charm 4 u by readin a passage of the quran & writing from it on your palm, once u touch a gal wt dat hand, she follows u home & wont know wat she's doin until afta uve slept wt her. Such is the evil written in dat demonic book. Ive seen it work. Mohamed is neva & wil neva be a prophet. He cld b a messenger of ur god but neva of the true God who is father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

you have said it all with your narrow thinking; Muhammad is never a messenger of the father of Jesus Christ because Christ has NO FATHER. Muhammad is from God, The Most High, Omnipotence, The God of all Universe.
i wonder why all these panick over Prohet Muhammad's prophethood and prophecies. i'm sure it's all for blasphemy which will do you no good because Islam is fast growing and will still continue to grow faster. It is Noah's Ark for this generation. see this link: http://www.usislam.org/converts/converts.htm a question for you: why did God send Jesus after sending prophets that came before him? is it the same God who sent Jesus that sent other prophets? give proofs from your Holy Book.
concerning "Jihad", it's part of our religion and it's for people like you who would not let ambassadors of Islam deliver THE MESSAGE. my friend, use your brain to answer this; is there any truth which is not protected by POWER? if any, then it is what you call Christianity which is not really true. christians claims that they are peaceful is just on their tongues; History have records of religious wars fought by christians so another question is who asked them to fight? a sound reasoning knows that there are people who will not let the truth prevail for different reasons hence, one needs to protect himself. your scanty knowledge about Islam is still not enough so read more to know when "Jihad" was legalised and why so you can stop displaying your ignorance.
on the issue of Qur'an used as a charm, it's your personal palava. when you get to God tell him that's why you didn't embrace Islam and he'll ask you whether you didn't see Muslims who don't use charm. mind you, what is the psalm in your Bible used for? i don't know and i don't really care because i'm already in the light, which i'll forever subscribe to, so i need not make meaningless findings; but a christian once told me 12 years back that psalms are Biblical Incantations! what is your say about that?
peace unto those who deserve peace.
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- jaykay123 at 20-01-2012 11:17 PM (12 years ago)
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o tot u said u muslem acknowledge Jesus as a prophet/messenger? Anyway, im nt suprised islam is growing cos Christ said satan wil hv mch more followers. Pple like u are destined for destruction so i want labour any point wt u anymore, but the point is clear, u muslem credit ur mohamed wt a title he neva deserved.
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- BONZ at 26-01-2012 12:48 AM (12 years ago)
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Once an idiot.. Always an idiot.

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- mubaji at 28-01-2012 09:28 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: jaykay123 on 20-01-2012 11:17 PM
o tot u said u muslem acknowledge Jesus as a prophet/messenger? Anyway, im nt suprised islam is growing cos Christ said satan wil hv mch more followers. Pple like u are destined for destruction so i want labour any point wt u anymore, but the point is clear, u muslem credit ur mohamed wt a title he neva deserved.


agent of destruction, i don't need your labor because you are doing it for your religion not mine. just disprove me if you are really sure of what you are doing not ....
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- CammyWhite at 28-01-2012 11:45 PM (12 years ago)
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you have said it all with your narrow thinking; Muhammad is never a messenger of the father of Jesus Christ because Christ has NO FATHER.

But Yeshuah is said to have been the Son of Yahweh, and since Yahweh is regarded as most definitely male... well, I'm sure you can jon the dots.
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- mubaji at 29-01-2012 05:00 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on 28-01-2012 11:45 PM
But Yeshuah is said to have been the Son of Yahweh, and since Yahweh is regarded as most definitely male... well, I'm sure you can jon the dots.
that's between you and your christian friends. i don't worship Yahweh and My own God is not known to be male. No one ever saw him and no one will see him until the Day of Resurrection. He will be seen by BELIEVERS alone. i'm sure you are one, are you?
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- democrazy at 29-01-2012 05:25 PM (12 years ago)
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lmho.....@Cammy hahahahahahahahaha. hahahahahahahaha........allah wakbarr!!

i'm sure you are one, are you? hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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