Why RCCG pastors can't remarry (Page 5)

Date: 17-08-2009 8:17 pm (14 years ago) | Author: King Samuel O Dguy
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- kenyawest at 8-09-2009 02:25 AM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: Babluk on  6-09-2009 05:31 PM
I want to advice that the RCCG pastor should not be JUDGED by men. He stepped down as Pastor in order to obey the foundational beliefs and christian code of conduct (especially for Pastors) within The RCCG denomination. His action is thus to be seen as exemplary. Critics should be careful before commenting positively or negatively on his case. God does not have pleasure in people critisizing His called ones. The Pastor involved is still God's anointed vessel with God's call, gift and anointing which only GOD can remove if HE so desires.

Babatunde Luke (Seminary Lecturer)
Response can be sent to [email protected]

This is where I will agree with you that the pastor that re-married was judged based only by RCCG foundation beliefs and christian code of conduct and certainly not based on the BIBLE.

So long as his demotion was based on RCCG rules and regulations, then it is fine by me.  If anybody claims it was based on the Bible, I will have to disagree.






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Posted: at 8-09-2009 02:25 AM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- rbest at 11-09-2009 01:35 PM (14 years ago)
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I now believe dat dguy is a moslem, if not why is it that he is interested in christian? why are u not posting things about moslems too? or do u mean that there is no bad egg in islam? u need to balance the equation i take God beg u.

Posted: at 11-09-2009 01:35 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Babluk at 22-09-2009 04:20 AM (14 years ago)
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I must have missed something and may have to read that account again.  I do not recall Jacob with two concubines.

I always understand that the first wife bore 10 children and the youngest wife bore two children and died during the birth of the last born.

Please direct me to the place where Jacob took on two concubines and they bore him children?  What are the children's names?
Posted: at 22-09-2009 04:20 AM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- Babluk at 22-09-2009 04:27 AM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: kenyawest on  8-09-2009 02:22 AM
Quote from: Babluk on  6-09-2009 05:31 PM
However, Jacob had two legal wives and two concubines who all gave birth to his twelve sons. I used to ask why God did not INSTRUCT jacob to send off his second wife and two concubines. The twelve children of Four women were given portions in the land of Canaan. They also became the fathers of the blessed TWELVE tribes of Israel.  

In addition Our Biblical GOD is also called the "GOD of Abraham, Isaac and JACOB (husband of four women)". The way God judges people as modeled by our LORD Jesus Christ is a mystery. His ways are not our ways. I do not support polygamy or second marriages. But we must understand as Christians that GOD responds and JUDGES cases within their context in the New Testament dispensation of GRACE. Such examples as that of the RCCG pastor is evidence of a fallen world in which we are. I respect such men of God who do not deny that They are mortal men called by the special grace of God given to mortal people.

I want to advice that the RCCG pastor should not be JUDGED by men. He stepped down as Pastor in order to obey the foundational beliefs and christian code of conduct (especially for Pastors) within The RCCG denomination. His action is thus to be seen as exemplary. Critics should be careful before commenting positively or negatively on his case. God does not have pleasure in people critisizing His called ones. The Pastor involved is still God's anointed vessel with God's call, gift and anointing which only GOD can remove if HE so desires.

Babatunde Luke (Seminary Lecturer)
Response can be sent to [email protected]

I must have missed something and may have to read that account again.  I do not recall Jacob with two concubines.

I always understand that the first wife bore 10 children and the youngest wife bore two children and died during the birth of the last born.

Please direct me to the place where Jacob took on two concubines and they bore him children?  What are the children's names?



Posted: at 22-09-2009 04:27 AM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- Babluk at 22-09-2009 04:36 AM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: Babluk on 22-09-2009 04:27 AM
Quote from: kenyawest on  8-09-2009 02:22 AM
Quote from: Babluk on  6-09-2009 05:31 PM
However, Jacob had two legal wives and two concubines who all gave birth to his twelve sons. I used to ask why God did not INSTRUCT jacob to send off his second wife and two concubines. The twelve children of Four women were given portions in the land of Canaan. They also became the fathers of the blessed TWELVE tribes of Israel.  

In addition Our Biblical GOD is also called the "GOD of Abraham, Isaac and JACOB (husband of four women)". The way God judges people as modeled by our LORD Jesus Christ is a mystery. His ways are not our ways. I do not support polygamy or second marriages. But we must understand as Christians that GOD responds and JUDGES cases within their context in the New Testament dispensation of GRACE. Such examples as that of the RCCG pastor is evidence of a fallen world in which we are. I respect such men of God who do not deny that They are mortal men called by the special grace of God given to mortal people.

I want to advice that the RCCG pastor should not be JUDGED by men. He stepped down as Pastor in order to obey the foundational beliefs and christian code of conduct (especially for Pastors) within The RCCG denomination. His action is thus to be seen as exemplary. Critics should be careful before commenting positively or negatively on his case. God does not have pleasure in people critisizing His called ones. The Pastor involved is still God's anointed vessel with God's call, gift and anointing which only GOD can remove if HE so desires.

Babatunde Luke (Seminary Lecturer)
Response can be sent to [email protected]

I must have missed something and may have to read that account again.  I do not recall Jacob with two concubines.

I always understand that the first wife bore 10 children and the youngest wife bore two children and died during the birth of the last born.

Please direct me to the place where Jacob took on two concubines and they bore him children?  What are the children's names?



Dear Kenyawest,
Sorry that I did not reply on time and also had problems with my local server resulting in repeating your responses several times before I could post mine.

If you read Genesis 30:1-end, and 35:22-26, you will discover that Jacob had two wives and two concubines. Leah had six male children, the concubines both had two each, while rachel had two male children; all totalling twelve children born to Jacob. The names of all the children are listed in the passages I mentioned earlier.
Posted: at 22-09-2009 04:36 AM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- Temmysam at 12-10-2009 11:52 AM (14 years ago)
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hmm
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- choms at 13-10-2009 03:38 PM (14 years ago)
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Anyway whatever u want to do in life, is a choice, the choice is theres, but i wish him God's protection and preservation in life.
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- Slicksilvers at 23-11-2009 04:37 PM (14 years ago)
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touch not the anoited of the lord neither do my prophet no harm so be carefull with your mouths, pen, even your thought for you no not what.......
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- lizzy_tola at 29-09-2010 02:37 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: isrealalabi on 25-08-2009 09:10 PM
well let the will of god prevail.it is not easy for a youngman of his age not to av a wife now.
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- donuche at 29-09-2010 04:57 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: babylaja4real on 25-08-2009 07:56 PM
@ adetop & tera
So u guys are saying that the pastor should remain married-single waiting for a wife that left for over ten years (who is now remarried)....please u guys shud study ur bible very well
some people read bible like a novel or newspaper.you need the guidance of the holyspirit to assimilate and understand the bible very well. from the day the pastors wife accepted a marriage proposal from another man and had segxwal intercurse with the man she is said to be remarried  to now ,she allready have commited an adultry which gives her husband the right to marry another woman authomaticaly.there is nothing to think about in this case. that man of god is a real man of GOD and he allso loves that woman so much to waited for a whole 10 years. he is justified even by GOD because the word of GOD which is the bible have already justified him. so you are right babylaja4REAL. infact it is the church that did not consider the man s spritual wellfare by thinking that he will stay longer than that so that by time he commits fornication with the members or any other woman they will shoout crucify him crusify him. he did the right thing even before GOD.


Posted: at 29-09-2010 04:57 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- FaithBMinistry at 29-09-2010 08:27 PM (13 years ago)
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Divorcement is wrong and God doesn't sanction it. Any one who marry those persons will be committing adultery as long as they are alive, Romans 7 vs 2-3, Matt 19 vs 8-9, 1 Corith 7 vs 10. This man should stay with the church and preach/teach the correct way of the Bible. Moses was the one who go ahead and give the children of israel without the authority of God. This is what Men of God does, they will go ahead and talk/do things because they are given the authority to speak on behalf of God. Paul did it too when he told persons that whether their husbands or wives are a christian they should stay inside the marriage. God told us not to be uneven yoke, and he told the children of Israel not to go outside of their tribe and marry.

If God did believe in adultery then He would be the one marry to us. But NO He divorce the Children of Israel and let us married to Jesus Christ His Son. Let us start reading our bible and apply wisdom inside our lives. Everything in the bible is for us to have a good spiritual and physical life.

Anyway if he is living a obedient life and God want him to have a wife, then he can remarry. Maybe his first marriage was one of rebellion were he was warned not to be marry and he still go ahead. I said this because on my first baptism I disobey my parents and went a head. I was taught that it wasn't record because God is not one of rebellion (disobedience). If he is to be remarry God will show it to him and then send a confirmation. Churches should live by the principles of God through His Son Jesus Christ and not of man.
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- cadanre at 30-09-2010 05:19 PM (13 years ago)
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That is why we every now and then hear THIS-ONE RAPE TODAY, THAT-ONE RAPE TOMORROW, THOSE-ONES WERE INVOLVED IN A CHILD ABUSE SCANDAL. God save us.

Posted: at 30-09-2010 05:19 PM (13 years ago) | Hero
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- desiresluv20 at 5-10-2010 11:52 AM (13 years ago)
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They know better

Posted: at 5-10-2010 11:52 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Originalsly at 11-10-2010 09:44 PM (13 years ago)
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I'll mostly agree with Babylaja4real and Donuche. What does the Bible refer to as marriage? Does the Bible sanction "divorce"? If yes, under what circumstances? If no, what does the Bible mean when it says if a woman commits adultery the husband can take another wife? Before anyone begin to discuss marriage they need to separate marriage as outlined in the Bible and marriage as defined by man. If judged by the Bible the pastor should have been looking a new wife since Mrs pastor had another man or committed adultery. If judged by man's laws, then I guess he had to file for a divorce and wait for the official certificate of divorce before he can begin the hunt for another wife. All the stuff about for better for worse and until death do us part...who said they were vows to be made before a marriage? People...don't get carried away with emotions and tradition.
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- chik001 at 12-10-2010 06:58 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: cadanre on 30-09-2010 05:19 PM
That is why we every now and then hear THIS-ONE RAPE TODAY, THAT-ONE RAPE TOMORROW, THOSE-ONES WERE INVOLVED IN A CHILD ABUSE SCANDAL. God save us.
Thats why Islamic doctrine suggested us marrying atleast four wives so as not to get bored with only one an go astray...
This just an opinion Roll Eyes
Posted: at 12-10-2010 06:58 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- tmusowoya at 4-11-2010 03:30 PM (13 years ago)
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Why has the ex-wife remained adamant for 10 yrs? Has the church council checked that the ex-wife has remained faithful for the whole 10 yr duration for them to pronounce such judgement on the man of God? I fear that RCCG has acted dangerously!
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- mr_west at 24-12-2010 03:55 AM (13 years ago)
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church business simple
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- ebonyz at 17-03-2012 10:20 AM (12 years ago)
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is between him and God
Posted: at 17-03-2012 10:20 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ebonyz at 17-03-2012 10:21 AM (12 years ago)
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leave him to his faith
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