Why RCCG pastors can't remarry (Page 4)

Date: 17-08-2009 8:17 pm (14 years ago) | Author: King Samuel O Dguy
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- kenyawest at 28-08-2009 11:47 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: midasmanny on 28-08-2009 08:46 AM
@ Kenyawest "Is it not adultery in the marriage when the pastor's ex-wife has remarried and living with another man?"

Pastor Adeboye might know what we dont!!

Let them spell it out.  A decision made by the church should be open for everybody to discern.  This should not be a secret.

The body of Christ needs to be transparent.
Posted: at 28-08-2009 11:47 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- abimbolausi at 30-08-2009 10:32 AM (14 years ago)
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untill we all get to heaven and see each other there as christians dat made it on eartth and to heaven, marriage is more of a sensitve matter that can not be judge, no matter the presure couples will never tell the third party the whole truth about their differences. i belive in miracles and also know that God said he will grant us all our heart desires and give us rest on every side.

remb u will account for every word (idle) u speak.

pls lets be careful

we are not God
Posted: at 30-08-2009 10:32 AM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- shawki at 30-08-2009 01:31 PM (14 years ago)
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hi im ahmed  in egypt
Posted: at 30-08-2009 01:31 PM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- kenyawest at 30-08-2009 04:22 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: shawki on 30-08-2009 01:31 PM
hi im ahmed  in egypt
Hi Ahmed from Egypt.  What is your opinion in this matter?
Posted: at 30-08-2009 04:22 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- adenike277 at 31-08-2009 11:50 AM (14 years ago)
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The pastor could have ask God for direction since he's annoited man of God or inform the governing council about what his martrimonial home probably they can give him one or two advice on what he cn do before taking up another wife, though waiting for 10yrs is not easy.
So,now that he has been sacked from officiating as a pastor in RCCG which doesnt stop him from being a member,i will say he should continue to worship @RCCG in that same parish by so doing when they sees his commitment and steadfastness 4 som months they can pray and annoiting him again,then call him back to his pastorage work.I guess that's a way of purnishing the ministers /workers dt goes against the church rules nd laws in RCCG,if this pastor should go nd establish his own church witout finishing his purnishment nd being pray for by the G.O or governing council he might not succed in his ministry,bcos no pastor/worker goes out of the church under a punishment nd established thier own ministry that cn succed,so its better for him to ask for the grace of God to uphold him inorder to serve ds purnishment.
This kind of incident happend to one of the powerful,annoited man of God in my church somtimes ago,even an excom member in d head quaters church but he patiently stayed to finishd his purnishment, for almost 2yrs he did not officiated as pastor in the church nd later on he was called  out to d alter and whole church prayd him.
Posted: at 31-08-2009 11:50 AM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- umartafeeda at 31-08-2009 08:46 PM (14 years ago)
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hmm? no comment
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- Sopus at 1-09-2009 07:05 AM (14 years ago)
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I am not judging here, but my point of view on this issue is this, the said pastor shld nt have remarried. the only condition for remarrying is the DEATH OF A SPOUSE OR  ADULTERY OF A PARTNER. since there was none of these, then, he shld nt have remarried. Periodd!!
Posted: at 1-09-2009 07:05 AM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- kenyawest at 1-09-2009 06:57 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: Sopus on  1-09-2009 07:05 AM
I am not judging here, but my point of view on this issue is this, the said pastor shld nt have remarried. the only condition for remarrying is the DEATH OF A SPOUSE OR  ADULTERY OF A PARTNER. since there was none of these, then, he shld nt have remarried. Periodd!!
Is his wife remarrying another man enough adultery for you?
Posted: at 1-09-2009 06:57 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- kenyawest at 1-09-2009 07:01 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: adenike277 on 31-08-2009 11:50 AM
The pastor could have ask God for direction since he's annoited man of God or inform the governing council about what his martrimonial home probably they can give him one or two advice on what he cn do before taking up another wife, though waiting for 10yrs is not easy.
So,now that he has been sacked from officiating as a pastor in RCCG which doesnt stop him from being a member,i will say he should continue to worship @RCCG in that same parish by so doing when they sees his commitment and steadfastness 4 som months they can pray and annoiting him again,then call him back to his pastorage work.I guess that's a way of purnishing the ministers /workers dt goes against the church rules nd laws in RCCG,if this pastor should go nd establish his own church witout finishing his purnishment nd being pray for by the G.O or governing council he might not succed in his ministry,bcos no pastor/worker goes out of the church under a punishment nd established thier own ministry that cn succed,so its better for him to ask for the grace of God to uphold him inorder to serve ds purnishment.
This kind of incident happend to one of the powerful,annoited man of God in my church somtimes ago,even an excom member in d head quaters church but he patiently stayed to finishd his purnishment, for almost 2yrs he did not officiated as pastor in the church nd later on he was called  out to d alter and whole church prayd him.

Is this a cult that dishes out punishment for getting married when your wife has gone and remarried another man?
Posted: at 1-09-2009 07:01 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mwamba at 1-09-2009 09:30 PM (14 years ago)
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Hung on a second, can anyone tell me wot really happend betwen him and his wife?
who refused to come back to who?
who sacked the pastor?

A pastor and any other christian are all children of God and can be forgiven when humbled before the merciful God, is just the grace and colling they operate in.

Some church protocals and doctrines are outside the grace of the almighty God.

Now can anybody highlight the whole story please?
Posted: at 1-09-2009 09:30 PM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- derbi at 1-09-2009 09:32 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: GMan on 21-08-2009 05:17 PM
@bemyfriend.
I think you have only stated the obvious. You don't need to be a biblical scholar to know that if a marriage comes under the conditions stipulated in Leviticus 18 that it is null and void. In the King James Bible, the word used by Jesus is "segxwal immorality". Except the original word used means something different, I understand that to include infidelity. To the other posters, ask yourself a question...If a man marries a woman who turns out to be unfaithful, are his only options to stay with her or live a life of celibacy for the rest of his life? this is not true, as i understand a man have the to divoice is wife and re marrie that is only when the woman commited adultry, and i also believe every man have the right to talk to God about is situation and tell im what they want concerning their relationship after all we all know is not a one way God, so let not preach the word of God to the unbeliever and make them feel when they repent they are going into slavery let not scared them away marrage is not slavery just tell God about it  God understand.
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- derbi at 1-09-2009 09:47 PM (14 years ago)
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I dont like the way people are takeing this insue we all knows our God is not a one way GOD, so jogde not so that u may not be jodge 10 years is not a joke, so him that is without sine let im cast first stone
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- meczytimber at 1-09-2009 10:41 PM (14 years ago)
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men, cant say a thing here,
its all about ur believe and understanding of the spiritual life, see ya

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- zubbystopper at 2-09-2009 06:49 AM (14 years ago)
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...wetin they wan make the guy de do Embarrassed Undecided? full tank na the worst predicament that can befall a man QED :'(...LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION BT DELIVER US FROM EVIL....tomorrow now them go say u de look woman!!!!! Shocked Huh? Grin
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- teznl at 4-09-2009 06:39 PM (14 years ago)
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if truly he s a genuine pastor let him pray dat the ALL Knowing God should direct, and speak to him, most inportantly, he should not allow his wife issue to make him loose his heavenly reward.
Posted: at 4-09-2009 06:39 PM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- kenyawest at 6-09-2009 06:35 AM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: teznl on  4-09-2009 06:39 PM
if truly he s a genuine pastor let him pray dat the ALL Knowing God should direct, and speak to him, most inportantly, he should not allow his wife issue to make him loose his heavenly reward.
The pastor will not lose his heavenly reward because the newly wedded pastor is acting according to God's laws. 

It is still important to find out what happened between him and his ex-wife before they got the divorce in the first place.

Regardless of what happened between him and his ex-wife, his ex-wife has already remarried to another man and he has been waiting for her for 10 years to come back to him, but she is not willing.  The pastor needs to take on a new wife.
Posted: at 6-09-2009 06:35 AM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Babluk at 6-09-2009 05:31 PM (14 years ago)
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My response to the topic:

There is need for everyone to know that situations and experiences are different from beliefs.

God respond to situations as they are and not legalistic rules. Take the case of Abraham who married a concubine called HAGGAH. God instructed Abraham to send her away. He obeyed without delay. Definitely God does not support polygamy.

However, Jacob had two legal wives and two concubines who all gave birth to his twelve sons. I used to ask why God did not INSTRUCT jacob to send off his second wife and two concubines. The twelve children of Four women were given portions in the land of Canaan. They also became the fathers of the blessed TWELVE tribes of Israel.  

In addition Our Biblical GOD is also called the "GOD of Abraham, Isaac and JACOB (husband of four women)". The way God judges people as modeled by our LORD Jesus Christ is a mystery. His ways are not our ways. I do not support polygamy or second marriages. But we must understand as Christians that GOD responds and JUDGES cases within their context in the New Testament dispensation of GRACE. Such examples as that of the RCCG pastor is evidence of a fallen world in which we are. I respect such men of God who do not deny that They are mortal men called by the special grace of God given to mortal people.

I want to advice that the RCCG pastor should not be JUDGED by men. He stepped down as Pastor in order to obey the foundational beliefs and christian code of conduct (especially for Pastors) within The RCCG denomination. His action is thus to be seen as exemplary. Critics should be careful before commenting positively or negatively on his case. God does not have pleasure in people critisizing His called ones. The Pastor involved is still God's anointed vessel with God's call, gift and anointing which only GOD can remove if HE so desires.

Babatunde Luke (Seminary Lecturer)
Response can be sent to [email protected]



Posted: at 6-09-2009 05:31 PM (14 years ago) | Newbie
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- kenyawest at 8-09-2009 02:16 AM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: Babluk on  6-09-2009 05:31 PM
My response to the topic:

There is need for everyone to know that situations and experiences are different from beliefs.

God respond to situations as they are and not legalistic rules. Take the case of Abraham who married a concubine called HAGGAH. God instructed Abraham to send her away. He obeyed without delay. Definitely God does not support polygamy.
God did not address polygamy by sending Haggai away.  God addressed his promise to Abraham using his seed Isaac.

Sarah was the first wife and was the one that demanded that Abraham send Haggai away and Abraham refused.  Haggai was being disrespectful to Sarah and to Isaac.  Haggai was bringing division to the household.

God sent Haggai away because God had different plans for Haggai and her seeds and different plans for Sarah and her seed Isaac.

God never even mentioned polygamy in that story.  He instructed Abraham to listen to Sarah his wife.
Posted: at 8-09-2009 02:16 AM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- kenyawest at 8-09-2009 02:18 AM (14 years ago)
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Furthermore, as a seminary lecturer, you should remember that at no time was Abraham married to Haggai but Haggai was introduced to us as Sarah's maid servant or slave girl.
Posted: at 8-09-2009 02:18 AM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- kenyawest at 8-09-2009 02:22 AM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: Babluk on  6-09-2009 05:31 PM
However, Jacob had two legal wives and two concubines who all gave birth to his twelve sons. I used to ask why God did not INSTRUCT jacob to send off his second wife and two concubines. The twelve children of Four women were given portions in the land of Canaan. They also became the fathers of the blessed TWELVE tribes of Israel.  

In addition Our Biblical GOD is also called the "GOD of Abraham, Isaac and JACOB (husband of four women)". The way God judges people as modeled by our LORD Jesus Christ is a mystery. His ways are not our ways. I do not support polygamy or second marriages. But we must understand as Christians that GOD responds and JUDGES cases within their context in the New Testament dispensation of GRACE. Such examples as that of the RCCG pastor is evidence of a fallen world in which we are. I respect such men of God who do not deny that They are mortal men called by the special grace of God given to mortal people.

I want to advice that the RCCG pastor should not be JUDGED by men. He stepped down as Pastor in order to obey the foundational beliefs and christian code of conduct (especially for Pastors) within The RCCG denomination. His action is thus to be seen as exemplary. Critics should be careful before commenting positively or negatively on his case. God does not have pleasure in people critisizing His called ones. The Pastor involved is still God's anointed vessel with God's call, gift and anointing which only GOD can remove if HE so desires.

Babatunde Luke (Seminary Lecturer)
Response can be sent to [email protected]

I must have missed something and may have to read that account again.  I do not recall Jacob with two concubines.

I always understand that the first wife bore 10 children and the youngest wife bore two children and died during the birth of the last born.

Please direct me to the place where Jacob took on two concubines and they bore him children?  What are the children's names?


Posted: at 8-09-2009 02:22 AM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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