Women Have 7 - 8 Children, Africa's Problem Is Not Poverty But Civilization - Emmanuel Macron

Published 2 years ago by: CLARA JANCITA
at 02:21 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)

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French President Emmanuel Macron has angered some social media users after he said that the problems Africa face are “civilisational,” adding that its women have “7 or 8 children.”
He said this at the G20 summit, after a reporter from Cote d’Ivoire asked him a question about how much the G20 countries are willing to commit to Africa. He said the problems with Africa are failed states; multiple trafficking issues for drugs, humans and weapons; infrastructure, education and health. Here’s a translation by a Reddit user:

Reporter from Ivory Coast:
The G20 have discussed the issue of poverty in Africa. We know that the Mashall plan in Europe cost 150 billion of today’s dollars. Concretely, how much are the G20 countries willing to commit to Africa today and what is France’s position on the matter?

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I don’t believe in this reasoning, forgive me for my directness. We among the West have been discussing such Marshall plans for Africa for many years and have in fact given many such plans already. So if it was so simple it would be fixed already. The Marshall plan was a reconstruction plan, a material plan in a region that already had its equilibriums, its borders and its stability. The problems Africa face are completely different and are much different and are “civilizational.” What are the problems? Failed states, complex democratic transitions and extremely difficult demographic transitions. Multiple trafficking routes that pose severe issues – drugs, human trafficking, weapons. Violent fundamentalism and islamic terrorism. All of these create major issues in a region that at the same time has some examples of excellent growth that prove the continent is a land of opportunity. So if we want a serious answer to African issues and African problems, we must develop a series of politics that are much more sophisticated that a simple Marshall plan or money transfer, which we agree with the world bank on. The matters of vital infrastructure, education, health – there are roles for financing and it is our responsibility to help on these issues. In terms of security, we must help by linking with regional African stability instruments which France is currently engaging in with the sahel nations. Development, security – and there is also a shared responsibility. Such a Mashall plan as you desire is also a plan that will be administered by African governments and regional blocs. It’s by a more rigorous governance, a fight against corruption, a fight for good governance, a successful demographic transition when countries today have 7 or 8 children per woman. As of today, spending billions of dollars outright would stabilize nothing. So the transformation plan that we have to conduct together must be developed according to African interests by and with African leaders. It must be a plan that must take into account the issues I’ve described, using public private partnerships, and must be conducted on a regional and sometimes even national basis.




Social media users have termed his views racist, particularly the part where he says the problems are “civilizational” and the women having multiple births.
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Macron says Africa's problems are "civilizational" and blames women with "7 or 8" kids. A repugnant speech.
Neoliberal centrist "resistance" Macron uses racist colonialist rhetoric for Africa, just like Hillary Clinton did
Basically Macron said to blame the black woman for Africa's problems and I'm sick. Gonna go take a nap. Y'all keep swooning if you want to.
Macron at #G20: "Africa's problems are civilizational," blames women with "7-8 kids"…this is more racist than Sarkozy's speech on Africa


Macron fans are apoplectic about this but what exactly is wrong about what he said? Access to contraception is a crucial issue for Africa
Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1)
Never thought I'd say I agree with Macron but he's on point here. Africa NEEDS birth control. Planned parenthood should be working there.
Ben Lechter (@therealflexter)
For all the idiots triggered by Macron pointing out Africa's overpopulation problem.
By the way, 40% of sub Saharan Africa lives in poverty.

eazy (@eazyonme)

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joeomoke at 02:29 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Y'All have seen what all the past & present Governments of Africa have Caused to the Africa Continents....Shame ON U'ALL ...AFrica is like a begger to the World whoever comes will spit on US who are they tlking to to the black AFricans Cause abviously we react to all this hate Speech...
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tegonwa at 03:46 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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This Is True, The Bitter Truth.An European Woman Is Hopeful With One Child While An African Woman Is Hopeless With Eight.Gestetionally Hopeless.
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osarobo62 at 03:51 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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this is the next best truth about Africa since ''fantastically corrupt''
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Deltaboy1 at 03:55 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Tell the islam parts of africa, they like children so much.. mostly Hausa/Fulani.. poor people but give birth like dogs
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pricklong at 03:59 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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please tell European country not to give us money again please stop insulting African country we have money more than European country is because our leaders dont know how to manage our economic
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gogoman at 04:31 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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tell that to the Catholic people!! no abortion
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chizzyG at 05:24 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Quote from: osarobo62 on 03:51 PM, 11/07/2017
this is the next best truth about Africa since ''fantastically corrupt''
Absolutely....the next bitter truth is on the way and would be that on qout"The problem of Africa will never have an end ,as long as their leaders keep on stealing away the public fund,of course the westerners will no longer be so foolish to be donating while the leaders of Africa will be stealing away everything
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osayan1 at 08:47 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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when l
africa leaders.are bad wat do u expect
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crocatum at 09:10 PM, 11/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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 we have become beggars and under the mercy of the developed countries, simply because our leaders are baboons, who only think of themselves and their stomach,  go to other countries you will notice the difference, nigeria is in the dark ages.
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Asterimou at 12:29 AM, 12/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Sadly, Africa hate to hear the truth. That also is our problem. we dance and rejoice with falsehood and distaste truth. What is wrong in what he said? are we actually not what he said we are? Did i hear some people say "racist"?  We Africans are the number one racist society in the world. Hausa hating Igbo man, his fellow countryman. Igbo detest Hausa man. Hausa giving his fellow Igbo man quit notice for doing nothing and when the European ask us to leave their country because we commit a crime, we begin to shout racist. What neocolonial words did he use? Did Biafra agitators not called their own country and her people a 'zoo', 'banana republic'? which is more derogatory and neocolonialism? Because we hate the truth, we will continue to circle in one place while other country are far head. Nonsense!
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Upbendel at 03:47 AM, 12/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Quote from: Asterimou on 12:29 AM, 12/07/2017
Sadly, Africa hate to hear the truth. That also is our problem. we dance and rejoice with falsehood and distaste truth. What is wrong in what he said? are we actually not what he said we are? Did i hear some people say "racist"?  We Africans are the number one racist society in the world. Hausa hating Igbo man, his fellow countryman. Igbo detest Hausa man. Hausa giving his fellow Igbo man quit notice for doing nothing and when the European ask us to leave their country because we commit a crime, we begin to shout racist. What neocolonial words did he use? Did Biafra agitators not called their own country and her people a 'zoo', 'banana republic'? which is more derogatory and neocolonialism? Because we hate the truth, we will continue to circle in one place while other country are far head. Nonsense!
My dare brother/sister, Population is not the major problem, underdevelopment, caused by our leaders and the policy of the developed world towards African continent, Some of the developed world, such as America more kid are been given birth to, 5-8 kids per family, {Yes, I'm very sure} but the development and policy of the government employment creation cover this gaps, The population of homeless in America is more than that of  state in Northern Nigeria, we have got problems to fix our beautiful continent, especially Nigeria in some part of Asia and western world a local council is more organised and effective more then the Federal government of Nigeria. You might not be writing from Nigeria but the reality is that the youth have failed Nigeria they all ran away to foreign countries...youths force things to change/happen         
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Asterimou at 11:45 PM, 12/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Quote from: Upbendel on 03:47 AM, 12/07/2017
My dare brother/sister, Population is not the major problem, underdevelopment, caused by our leaders and the policy of the developed world towards African continent, Some of the developed world, such as America more kid are been given birth to, 5-8 kids per family, {Yes, I'm very sure} but the development and policy of the government employment creation cover this gaps, The population of homeless in America is more than that of  state in Northern Nigeria, we have got problems to fix our beautiful continent, especially Nigeria in some part of Asia and western world a local council is more organised and effective more then the Federal government of Nigeria. You might not be writing from Nigeria but the reality is that the youth have failed Nigeria they all ran away to foreign countries...youths force things to change/happen     

You may be right, but are you passing the blame on 1% Nigerian youth who left home? Would they have made the change? The population of youths who left Nigeria abroad are not up to a state in Southern Nigeria, and we have 36 states. Where are the youths of the remaining 35 states? what changes or even a mirage of it have they achieved? Now, what are the youths doing in Nigeria? Kidnapping, insurgency, militants and cultism and crime and many other vices. were those who traveled abroad still living in Nigeria, hmm, i think much more worse things will happen. Those who left are frustrated and weren't really happy to leave if things were going good in Nigeria and many are still on their way out. You will observe that while many are leaving home right now, a lot more are returning back to Nigeria having find out that there is nothing anymore abroad. having watch affairs from abroad, these ones have come to realize that the best place to make it in Nigeria is politics and they are coming back to tackle the government, like Kanu and many i know from Edo State. The present Governor on Edo state was based in the USA, returned home, join a political party and now a governor. So every thing boil down to politics. The world is blaming corruption and bad leadership in Nigeria and not the depressed youth looking for better life abroad.
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Upbendel at 03:17 AM, 13/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Quote from: Asterimou on 11:45 PM, 12/07/2017

WELCOME BACK, WELL, IF YOU HAVE A GRIP OF  MY BLAMES...
1,UNDERDEVELOPMENT CAUSED BY LEADERS
2, WESTERN POLICY TOWARDS AFRICAN CONTINENT
3, INEFFECTIVENESS AND LACKS OF ORGANISATION
4, YOUTHS ESCAPE. ...THE YOUTH HAVE A PART TO PLAY IN A SOCIETY BUILDING EVEN IF IT'S BELOW THAT 1% YOU MENTIONED, THE POSITIVE EFFECT OF 1% DURING ELECTION WILL  CHANGE THE WINNING/LOOSER'S SHEET, THEREFORE THEY HAVE A PART OF THE BLAME.   
GOOD HELP US.............AS WE ARE COMING TO REALIZE OUR PROBLEMS.
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ruthie at 08:37 AM, 13/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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TRUTH IS BITTER!!!
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tegonwa at 08:58 AM, 13/07/2017 (2 years ago)
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Quote from: Deltaboy1 on 03:55 PM, 11/07/2017
Tell the islam parts of africa, they like children so much.. mostly Hausa/Fulani.. poor people but give birth like dogs
.Humorous But True.Hausa Fulani Cannot Do Without Breeding Children Like Fish.
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