Tips for leaving a high conflict partner! (Page 4)

Date: 07-11-2010 4:27 pm (13 years ago) | Author: Bittersweet
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- agabs at 8-11-2010 12:42 PM (13 years ago)
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@bittersweet, I kind of view humans as mirrors. humans mirror you.

In the madman, the angry human, the crying man, the drunk, the laughing child, if we look deeper, we will see ourselves.

I think what we need the most in the world to get by is just a little patience.

Hence, the mad wise sage said, "there is a time for everything under the sun."
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- bittersweet at 8-11-2010 12:47 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 12:34 PM
Quote from: bittersweet on  7-11-2010 04:30 PM
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@bittersweet, I must advice you be wary of becoming overly practical.

It is alright to be practical. But the problem with practicality is it is dependent on wisdom. The efficacy of wisdom is dependent on understanding.

Humans are not clear cut.

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I think Mahatma Gandhi didn't treat his wife fairly from the start. He kind of grew into a better person. And lots of kids are not really fair to em parents. Some later learn to be gentle with them.

@bittersweet, imagine if parents were to like treat high conflict adolescent teenagers the way the post says? What do you think will happen? Wouldn't there be more broken people in our world?

I can't say how one should deal with a high conflict person. I don't know enough. I am not God.
I just know that cause a human is not the picture we have of an ideal person doesn't make the human bad. Humans are more than just good or bad. [I know I am sounding mad here. Yes. I know.]

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I believe high conflict people can be salvaged. The question is, "is one caring enough?"

High conflict people are like children. If you don't give up on them, you will make a better person out of them. The question is how? Cause if you don't know how, you will like aggravate them. The question is how? How does one cure a high conflict person without aggravating the person?

If you find the answer and you are willing to implement it, you can save any person that matters to you. Mind you that the tag of value is placed by you on a person.

DONT GET ME WRONG AM NOT JUDGING YOU.

I think there was a time I was a high conflict individual.  But my parents persevered. Now I don't really give a ***** about me. However, something in me wants to make them happy; for it seems the biblical commandment I am most guilty of is "honour your father and mother."

ALL AM SAYING IS WE SHOULDN'T BE QUICK TO SEND "HIGH CONFLICT PEOPLE TO THE GALLOWS."

We should reach for high conflict people. Of course we should protect ourselves. A dieing man will clutch at a straw.

JUST CAUSE A PATIENT HAS GOT HIV, DOESN'T MEAN A DOCTOR WILL NOT OPERATE. THE DOCTOR PROTECTS HIMSELF. CAUSE SELF IS IMPORTANT. BUT, THE PATIENT IS IMPORTANT TOO.



Agabs,those tips are for love relationships,not for other kind of relationship (parents-kids,as u said) .
And also this is not a post who encourages leaving those persons, but rather how to manage
 themselves AFTER they have decided that being in that relationship does not do anything else but harming!
So this post comes AFTER that point, not for before!
But thx for opinion!
You talk well, as usual!

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- blessedme at 8-11-2010 12:51 PM (13 years ago)
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great one dear
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- bittersweet at 8-11-2010 12:52 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 12:42 PM
@bittersweet, I kind of view humans as mirrors. humans mirror you.

In the madman, the angry human, the crying man, the drunk, the laughing child, if we look deeper, we will see ourselves.

I think what we need the most in the world to get by is just a little patience.

Hence, the mad wise sage said, "there is a time for everything under the sun."

Agabs,you want to kill me?
I know all those, but sometimes, no matter how much we would try,and especially when there are also other ppl
involved, it's just not working!
And in that case,what should one do?To die trying when there is obviously that nothing is going to change, and to
end in a mental institution, eventually?  Undecided

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- bittersweet at 8-11-2010 12:53 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: blessedme on  8-11-2010 12:51 PM
great one dear

Thx,sweetie!

Posted: at 8-11-2010 12:53 PM (13 years ago) | Hero
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- agabs at 8-11-2010 01:45 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: bittersweet on  8-11-2010 12:52 PM
Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 12:42 PM
@bittersweet, I kind of view humans as mirrors. humans mirror you.

In the madman, the angry human, the crying man, the drunk, the laughing child, if we look deeper, we will see ourselves.

I think what we need the most in the world to get by is just a little patience.

Hence, the mad wise sage said, "there is a time for everything under the sun."

Agabs,you want to kill me?
I know all those, but sometimes, no matter how much we would try,and especially when there are also other ppl
involved, it's just not working!
And in that case,what should one do?To die trying when there is obviously that nothing is going to change, and to
end in a mental institution, eventually?  Undecided


Ha ha haha hhah ah.
People who give up easily on people end up divorced. Cause most marriages go through points of conflict. Your conflict paradigm then kicks in.

Thoughts like, "If I stay in this house one more day, I will end up in a mental institution," start snooping upside your head. What happens? You go looney and truly end up in a mental institution wearing jerry curls with hair made from confusion. Ha ha ha hahhaha.

1. Why is a person high conflict? Is it low self esteem? Is it immaturity? Is it abuse in times past?

Low self esteem can be cured? Intimacy and encouragement cures it.
Immaturity can be cured? Encouragement, education, communication cures immaturity?
Abuse is hard to cure.


Like I said before, I aint judging you. I am just saying a little more patience and effort can turn things around. Life is in phases anyways.

HUMANS ARE NOT CLEAR CUT. AND I THINK MOST RELATIONSHIPS BREAKDOWN CAUSE ONE OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED HOLDS THE KEY BUT REFUSES TO MAKE ANOTHER PUSH.


I think humans have open doors. Even when you think that they can't be reached they can be reached. If only one would be patient and find a way.

my dear @bittersweet, wow, you remind me of some big better orange that ripens in my village during the harmattan. The orange is truely sweet bitter. The translation of the name to english is literally "Orange of Fever." I guess it is better cause of it's high quinine or citric acid content.

Yeah like I was saying, HUMANS ARE BITTER AND SWEET. Read you last post. Can't you see how weak and pathetic you sound? Dear, you sound beat.
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NYE NYE NYE.
Have tried everything. Have tried. I can't do this anymore. And you run out. And for the rest of your natural life you keep trying to justify why life is so much pain.

CHANGE YOUR THINKING. CHANGE YOUR THINKING.
SO CALLED HIGH CONFLICT PEOPLE CAN BE EDUCATED. YOU DO THAT BY REFLECTING THEIR WEAKNESSES, ABUSIVE TENDENCIES AND BY EMPHASIZING THEIR DAMAGE.

CHICKENS GIVE UP. ARE YOU A CHICKEN?





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- bittersweet at 8-11-2010 01:55 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 01:45 PM
Quote from: bittersweet on  8-11-2010 12:52 PM
Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 12:42 PM
@bittersweet, I kind of view humans as mirrors. humans mirror you.

In the madman, the angry human, the crying man, the drunk, the laughing child, if we look deeper, we will see ourselves.

I think what we need the most in the world to get by is just a little patience.

Hence, the mad wise sage said, "there is a time for everything under the sun."

Agabs,you want to kill me?
I know all those, but sometimes, no matter how much we would try,and especially when there are also other ppl
involved, it's just not working!
And in that case,what should one do?To die trying when there is obviously that nothing is going to change, and to
end in a mental institution, eventually?  Undecided


Ha ha haha hhah ah.
People who give up easily on people end up divorced. Cause most marriages go through points of conflict. Your conflict paradigm then kicks in.

Thoughts like, "If I stay in this house one more day, I will end up in a mental institution," start snooping upside your head. What happens? You go looney and truly end up in a mental institution wearing jerry curls with hair made from confusion. Ha ha ha hahhaha.

1. Why is a person high conflict? Is it low self esteem? Is it immaturity? Is it abuse in times past?

Low self esteem can be cured? Intimacy and encouragement cures it.
Immaturity can be cured? Encouragement, education, communication cures immaturity?
Abuse is hard to cure.


Like I said before, I aint judging you. I am just saying a little more patience and effort can turn things around. Life is in phases anyways.

HUMANS ARE NOT CLEAR CUT. AND I THINK MOST RELATIONSHIPS BREAKDOWN CAUSE ONE OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED HOLDS THE KEY BUT REFUSES TO MAKE ANOTHER PUSH.


I think humans have open doors. Even when you think that they can't be reached they can be reached. If only one would be patient and find a way.

my dear @bittersweet, wow, you remind me of some big better orange that ripens in my village during the harmattan. The orange is truely sweet bitter. The translation of the name to english is literally "Orange of Fever." I guess it is better cause of it's high quinine or citric acid content.

Yeah like I was saying, HUMANS ARE BITTER AND SWEET. Read you last post. Can't you see how weak and pathetic you sound? Dear, you sound beat.
============

NYE NYE NYE.
Have tried everything. Have tried. I can't do this anymore. And you run out. And for the rest of your natural life you keep trying to justify why life is so much pain.

CHANGE YOUR THINKING. CHANGE YOUR THINKING.
SO CALLED HIGH CONFLICT PEOPLE CAN BE EDUCATED. YOU DO THAT BY REFLECTING THEIR WEAKNESSES, ABUSIVE TENDENCIES AND BY EMPHASIZING THEIR DAMAGE.

CHICKENS GIVE UP. ARE YOU A CHICKEN?







Come on,Agabs!
First, it's not about me there!
If I would tell u what I'm going through for years already, your opinion about me would change completely!
I'm not a quitter,even far from that!
I'm sorry that u've taken it that way,but it's your right to believe what u want!
I know somebody who has taken that decision, after many years of trying and suffering, and that's why this post!
Do you think that it's easy for somebody, after many years of relationship, to give up?I'm telling u,it's not easy at all!
But sometimes is the best!

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- agabs at 8-11-2010 02:03 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: bittersweet on  8-11-2010 01:55 PM
Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 01:45 PM
Quote from: bittersweet on  8-11-2010 12:52 PM
Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 12:42 PM
@bittersweet, I kind of view humans as mirrors. humans mirror you.

In the madman, the angry human, the crying man, the drunk, the laughing child, if we look deeper, we will see ourselves.

I think what we need the most in the world to get by is just a little patience.

Hence, the mad wise sage said, "there is a time for everything under the sun."

Agabs,you want to kill me?
I know all those, but sometimes, no matter how much we would try,and especially when there are also other ppl
involved, it's just not working!
And in that case,what should one do?To die trying when there is obviously that nothing is going to change, and to
end in a mental institution, eventually?  Undecided


Ha ha haha hhah ah.
People who give up easily on people end up divorced. Cause most marriages go through points of conflict. Your conflict paradigm then kicks in.

Thoughts like, "If I stay in this house one more day, I will end up in a mental institution," start snooping upside your head. What happens? You go looney and truly end up in a mental institution wearing jerry curls with hair made from confusion. Ha ha ha hahhaha.

1. Why is a person high conflict? Is it low self esteem? Is it immaturity? Is it abuse in times past?

Low self esteem can be cured? Intimacy and encouragement cures it.
Immaturity can be cured? Encouragement, education, communication cures immaturity?
Abuse is hard to cure.


Like I said before, I aint judging you. I am just saying a little more patience and effort can turn things around. Life is in phases anyways.





Come on,Agabs!
First, it's not about me there!
If I would tell u what I'm going through for years already, your opinion about me would change completely!
I'm not a quitter,even far from that!
I'm sorry that u've taken it that way,but it's your right to believe what u want!
I know somebody who has taken that decision, after many years of trying and suffering, and that's why this post!
Do you think that it's easy for somebody, after many years of relationship, to give up?I'm telling u,it's not easy at all!
But sometimes is the best!


Like I said before, I am not judging you. I don't even know you. I aint no judge.

I wish the person good-luck.

@bittersweet, you don't owe me an explanation. This isn't about you. It aint even about your friend. This is about life. This a sword play of paradigms. So please, stop being sentimental and like, "agyabs yis atttackkeeeeen meeeeeeeeeeee!" Ha ha ha hhahah a.

I am not judging you. this is just a debate. or rather a discuss.
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- bittersweet at 8-11-2010 02:05 PM (13 years ago)
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Come on! Cheesy

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- agabs at 8-11-2010 02:12 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: bittersweet on  8-11-2010 02:05 PM
Come on! Cheesy
Ha ha haha ha. I have to go on. Ha ha hahhaha. Am hungry.

but you do come across like, "i aint scared of shoving your ring in your face and running out the door" sometimes.

Hmn!

do you see how my originating opinion of you reflects me? Hmn!

Bittersweet chick, I have to go get some food am hungry.

[[[[[[[Come to think of it, I should have let you think I was attacking your person. That way you will keep coming with explanations and I will keep typing. Wow!]]]]]]]]]]]]]

bye for now.
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- bittersweet at 8-11-2010 02:15 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on  8-11-2010 02:12 PM
Quote from: bittersweet on  8-11-2010 02:05 PM
Come on! Cheesy
Ha ha haha ha. I have to go on. Ha ha hahhaha. Am hungry.

but you do come across like, "i aint scared of shoving your ring in your face and running out the door" sometimes.

Hmn!

do you see how my originating opinion of you reflects me? Hmn!

Bittersweet chick, I have to go get some food am hungry.

[[[[[[[Come to think of it, I should have let you think I was attacking your person. That way you will keep coming with explanations and I will keep typing. Wow!]]]]]]]]]]]]]

bye for now.


Hmmmmm!
I better keep quiet for now!  Lips Sealed

Anyway, enjoy your meal!

Posted: at 8-11-2010 02:15 PM (13 years ago) | Hero
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