Proof or no proof,God exists. (Page 2)

Date: 25-07-2011 5:40 pm (12 years ago) | Author: osmond eze
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- hosbert at 1-08-2011 10:48 AM (12 years ago)
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Yahweh is not the Creator Of All Things.

There you go again.If Yahweh did not create the world,who did?

The Creator Of All Things, who is not Yahweh (or Allah).

But there is a God who created the world
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- CammyWhite at 1-08-2011 11:51 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: hosbert on  1-08-2011 10:48 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  1-08-2011 09:28 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  1-08-2011 07:57 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  1-08-2011 07:50 AM
Yahweh is not the Creator Of All Things.

There you go again.If Yahweh did not create the world,who did?

The Creator Of All Things, who is not Yahweh (or Allah).

But there is a God who created the world

The entire universe of space and time, and that God isn't Yahweh (or Allah).
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- chik001 at 1-08-2011 06:17 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  1-08-2011 11:51 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  1-08-2011 10:48 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  1-08-2011 09:28 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  1-08-2011 07:57 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  1-08-2011 07:50 AM
Yahweh is not the Creator Of All Things.

There you go again.If Yahweh did not create the world,who did?

The Creator Of All Things, who is not Yahweh (or Allah).

But there is a God who created the world

The entire universe of space and time, and that God isn't Yahweh (or Allah).
...so who and what is He/She...?
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- CammyWhite at 2-08-2011 12:44 AM (12 years ago)
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An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
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- hosbert at 2-08-2011 08:05 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.

Time and space on it own then an entity existing outside of it?
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- CammyWhite at 3-08-2011 05:36 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: hosbert on  2-08-2011 08:05 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.

Time and space on it own then an entity existing outside of it?

By Freyja's tears, you're getting there!
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- hosbert at 3-08-2011 08:41 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  3-08-2011 05:36 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  2-08-2011 08:05 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.

Time and space on it own then an entity existing outside of it?

By Freyja's tears, you're getting there!

Which Freyja's tears? how do you reconcile the fact that your sect never existed until 1960s?
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- chik001 at 3-08-2011 02:34 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

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- CammyWhite at 4-08-2011 03:56 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: hosbert on  3-08-2011 08:41 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  3-08-2011 05:36 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  2-08-2011 08:05 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.

Time and space on it own then an entity existing outside of it?

By Freyja's tears, you're getting there!

Which Freyja's tears? how do you reconcile the fact that your sect never existed until 1960s?

Worship of the Aesir, includin Freyja, goes back thousands of years. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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- CammyWhite at 4-08-2011 03:57 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.
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- chik001 at 4-08-2011 04:52 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:57 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.


God does not exist only in his creation…God had been in existence before the creation…and that makes him The First Cause/ Universal Prime Energy…which is that energy that can be found in all particles that possess atoms…
…the fundamental energy of God's being is eternal…self-existent and absolute… It is the origin of all energies and forces that allow created beings to exist.
…if you are idle as…always…we can discuss on Cause and Effect….
…if you understand what I mean…
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- Angelita2 at 4-08-2011 05:12 PM (12 years ago)
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too bad.
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- hosbert at 4-08-2011 06:54 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:56 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  3-08-2011 08:41 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  3-08-2011 05:36 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  2-08-2011 08:05 AM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.

Time and space on it own then an entity existing outside of it?

By Freyja's tears, you're getting there!

Does it hurt?

Which Freyja's tears? how do you reconcile the fact that your sect never existed until 1960s?

Worship of the Aesir, includin Freyja, goes back thousands of years. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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- hosbert at 4-08-2011 06:56 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:57 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.

Nothing else existed but God Himself.Time and space are both God's creation and God cannot exist in it.Period.
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- CammyWhite at 5-08-2011 02:05 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  4-08-2011 04:52 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:57 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.

God does not exist only in his creation…God had been in existence before the creation…and that makes him The First Cause/ Universal Prime Energy…which is that energy that can be found in all particles that possess atoms…
…the fundamental energy of God's being is eternal…self-existent and absolute… It is the origin of all energies and forces that allow created beings to exist.
…if you are idle as…always…we can discuss on Cause and Effect….
…if you understand what I mean…

Fine, we are talking about The Creator Of All Things. That is not the same as Yahweh/Allah, who exists very much inside this universe.

Oh, and "idle as always"? Speak for yourself!
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- CammyWhite at 5-08-2011 02:07 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: hosbert on  4-08-2011 06:56 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:57 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.

Nothing else existed but God Himself.Time and space are both God's creation and God cannot exist in it.Period.

As I said before, that's the case with The Creator Of All Things, but not the case with Yahweh/Allah, who is firmly rooted in this reality.
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- chik001 at 6-08-2011 09:57 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  5-08-2011 02:07 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  4-08-2011 06:56 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:57 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.

Nothing else existed but God Himself.Time and space are both God's creation and God cannot exist in it.Period.

As I said before, that's the case with The Creator Of All Things, but not the case with Yahweh/Allah, who is firmly rooted in this reality.

..and Ive said earlier...call God (English) any name you like...the function remains the same...
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- CammyWhite at 7-08-2011 03:59 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on  6-08-2011 09:57 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  5-08-2011 02:07 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  4-08-2011 06:56 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:57 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.

Nothing else existed but God Himself.Time and space are both God's creation and God cannot exist in it.Period.

As I said before, that's the case with The Creator Of All Things, but not the case with Yahweh/Allah, who is firmly rooted in this reality.

..and Ive said earlier...call God (English) any name you like...the function remains the same...

But when Christians, Jews and Moslems pray to God/Yahweh/Allah, they are not praying to the Creator Of All Things.
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- chik001 at 10-08-2011 04:45 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on  7-08-2011 03:59 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  6-08-2011 09:57 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  5-08-2011 02:07 AM
Quote from: hosbert on  4-08-2011 06:56 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  4-08-2011 03:57 AM
Quote from: chik001 on  3-08-2011 02:34 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on  2-08-2011 12:44 AM
An entity that exists outside Time and Space.
...an ENTITY that EXIST outside time and space... Grin

How can a Creator have existence only inside Its own creation? It would have created Itself in the act of creating Time and Space.

Nothing else existed but God Himself.Time and space are both God's creation and God cannot exist in it.Period.

As I said before, that's the case with The Creator Of All Things, but not the case with Yahweh/Allah, who is firmly rooted in this reality.

..and Ive said earlier...call God (English) any name you like...the function remains the same...

But when Christians, Jews and Moslems pray to God/Yahweh/Allah, they are not praying to the Creator Of All Things.
...how do you know...how can you tell...?
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- CammyWhite at 11-08-2011 03:16 PM (12 years ago)
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Since the Christians and Jews believe in Yahweh, a deity that feels anger and jealousy, it can't be the Creator Of All Things; and since Islam grew out of those faiths, then neither can Allah.
Posted: at 11-08-2011 03:16 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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