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Quote from: betty55 on 14-03-2012 09:49 PM l choose to reply to ur coment cos l know u to be reponsible in ur coment always.u mession abraham and david.this are individual in the bible.we are talking about a aman of God who have more than millions of follower over the world who worship him like their God and he spoke publicly on this abomination not calling a sin.as u can see his members are already rejoicing in iniquity.some already swearing for those who dare speak against his preaching.when the bible warn against false preacher l think the story of this two men in the old testament was already there.so why the anger on my coment.did l say anything contrary to the word of God?the word of God is without compromise.he made first mistake and more mistake in the second one and u still compare him to abraham lies.can any of them both u and l go through what abraham went through before he deserved such mercy from God.the word of God is complete my brother u don,t pick one chapter and end it there.anyway salvation is personal.this where many have become follow follow to this so called men of God.even though they know the truth they are afraid of telling it cos of fear touch not my annoited.as long as l know every child of God is annoited. betty is real you made more point and explaining some certain thing about two men of God of the old,maybe harold should go back to that account and encounter of Abraham and king,Abraham lied but when the king release that the man of God lied,he ask him for second time he never denied,but look at so called man of GOD,rejoicing in sin,deceiving multitude of people
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Hypocrisy is the word on anyone married/unmarried persons ReplyWho had sex before married or having sex with a significant other and not married yet And still have the nerve to comment on this subject to be a sin or not When they are already committing it by having premarital sex .......hello... 
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Quote from: emekaralph on 14-03-2012 10:39 PM Please o! lets not deviate from the main topic. I hate when fellow Christians use irrelevant and indirect quotations and half baked biblical references to confuse people and answer questions. Question is "IS m*st*u*r*b*a*tion A SIN". I am totalling disappointed with the pastors opinion. Infact he didn't even answer that, but was going around in circles. He compared this with stealing bread and eating it, that it's the thought of stealing that is wrong and not the eating of the bread. Well i say it aloud now for all to hear. Eating or consuming "STOLEN GOODS" is wrong. Please pastors quoting the bible literally. How can one possibly m*st*u*r*b*a*te without having impure thoughts? without first having lustful desires of the flesh and then satisfying the flesh by masturbating? are we not suppose to dwell in the spirit? Did Jesus m*st*u*r*b*a*te? Any one who starts this acts, starts getting addicted to it and it could then grows to various acts of rape, paedophilia, incest etc etc. this is the same way he encourages young youths to dress half naked saying dressing doesn't matter it's the heart that matters. Then the question is how can someone who is so pure in heart dress half naked? and then lead others to sin??? How can a pure spirit entertain and get so excited at strangers admiring their body parts and clothings, when this so called body according to the bible is suppose to be the temple of the lord! At this rate there will be no virgins in "BELIEVERS THAT LOVE THE WORLD CHURCH" honestly. this is true talk, you are right on this, there i always know that they in there Church are up to something evil,. they started with devilish and evil mode of dressing, dressing half naked to seduce men, and there men frying there hair, even putting on ear rings, in a church where men dress like woman and woman dress half naked, they tell you that what matters is your heart and not your dressing , then what is in your heart that made you dress such naked?, what are you thinking?, now, today they are talking about ma.st..be..tion not a sin, who knows what they will say tomorrow, i think Nigerian government should look into most of this fake churches in Nigeria, because it is affecting our culture and our religion and our ways of life, it is affecting our pure spirit ti worship God
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Quote from: gimac on 14-03-2012 09:11 PM who ask you where you live,you have a brain problem i must if you can not see hasn't you heard,the gods have total blind you from seeing the fact and beautiful nature of GOD and existence of the creator,if i may ask you,how did you know that it was your parent who give birth to you,just as you are born i learn that they are you parent,you have grandfather and mother ,it is how we learn that we have ALMIGHTY GOD,THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH,SEEN AND UNSEEN What is happening today is not surprise to us and also your comment is not surprise ,we know that people like you will deny a existence of God,so the kingdom of God had been suffering violet right from the days of John The Baptism There was a time when no one could defend the Christian religion like me. That was then. As now, Like then, l have come to know that when this topic comes up, it is the ones who go against the commandments on daily basis as stated in the bible they claim to defend, shout out the most. From my comments, l did not insult any one or religion, so you do not have to lunch rockets at me. That’s my opinion. You don’t like it, say what you want to say without loading and releasing ur rockets. The things you said had already being answered by my comments. You said my parents got the message about God from my grandparents, fine. I posted there that Christianity came to us by the white men. Now my friend, when did Christianity reach Africa? By whom? Through what? Get the answers and you would have answered yourself. Also, you referred me to the bible. My dear, l posted before, who wrote the bible? We will still come back to the story of God inspiring people to do so. How do you know of this, Your grandparents told you, fine. Still comes back to the white man bringing it to you. I am what you call a realist, l do not believe or accept what people say without a reason or a proof. If l can’t see the man with a gun, feel him, touch him, then that man does not exist. If the man stands in front of me and says, hands up, then we are talking. See, how old are you today? How many times have the god you serve said hello to you since you were born? Have you ever touched or felt him? Some times l wonder if the idol worshiper is not better off, cause at least, he can feal, see and touch what he serves. Before the coming of the white men, people believed in certain deities. The Yorubas talked of Oduduwa, the Ibos talked of Amadioha, the binis talked of Oromila, so on and so forth. Ask ur parents they will confirm this. Christianity was a tool by the white men to deceive you to give them what they needed. Don’t get me wrong, l know man did not fall from the sky, we must have come here to earth by a means which we are still yet to know. There were men who ones said the earth was not round and also talked about gravity. People, especially the church, said they were mad. Today, things these people talked about are being applied in every day science and one of them is what you are reading this message with. A lady asked earlier which country in Europe l am. Am not here to tell you that. I said Europe to make you understand why l said whites don’t go to church. As she rightly said, some do, but 98.9 percent don’t and don’t want to hear of God. The reverse is the case in Nigeria. 90 percent go to church and claim to defend their faith, but look at the life of its citizens. Some want to own it all, while others are hungry. The fastest way to making money now is by fraud. Morals have being thrown to the wind and people like Chris, Joshua etc are taking advantage of the ignorance of the people. I bet you that in a day, you break at least one commandment of the God you serve, knowing full well your bible says its sin. If you are married you must be committing adultery, physically or with your eyes. If you are single, you must have a girl friend you are jingling, which is fornication. If you fire at people for saying their minds, how can you convince another to join the faith you are defending? I believe you can make ur point without the fireworks. Experience has taught me not to fight this war cause, people who claim righteous will want to have the last say, so l won’t respond to any other comment, i believe l have made my point. Good day.
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In Islam, some leaders may say anything they like, but if these are not conform with the teaching of Al-Qur'an and Hadith, it will be rejected of them likewise in Christianity if any pastor or cleric says anything but does not follow the teaching of Jesus Christ or Bible, reject it sharp sharp. I rest my case! ReplyThere is no diety worthy of worship except Allah, take it or leave it!
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@amakaralph: Da was a very sound judgement 4rm u man! U dem ryt... De most disturbing issues in our society is, we all knew wot de ryt path was but often can't act upon it. Those of u who says der's notin wrong wit wot de pastor says abt mastubation, shuld be spiritually incline cos u cant serve God wit ur natural mind dat is ful of lustful desire such as dis. Mastubation is SIN! SIN!!!SIN!!! Reply
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Quote from: gimac on 14-03-2012 09:11 PM who ask you where you live,you have a brain problem i must if you can not see hasn't you heard,the gods have total blind you from seeing the fact and beautiful nature of GOD and existence of the creator,if i may ask you,how did you know that it was your parent who give birth to you,just as you are born i learn that they are you parent,you have grandfather and mother ,it is how we learn that we have ALMIGHTY GOD,THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH,SEEN AND UNSEEN What is happening today is not surprise to us and also your comment is not surprise ,we know that people like you will deny a existence of God,so the kingdom of God had been suffering violet right from the days of John The Baptism I just chose to respond to your comment despite the fact that its full of error, but just had to enlighten you more about what the bible says.......This goes to everyone in general even I REMAIN A PRACTICING MUSLIM, But still i understood every single comment made by (Xaiyu) You are claiming to be a true believer, but see below what your bible says about the so called BELIEVERS and the NON-BELIEVERS...Even people calling "Jesus" and "God God God" Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 60 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME, you workers of LAWLESNESS.’ 2 Peter 2:21 "It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them Corinthians 7:13-14 ESV / 100 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made HOLY because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made HOLY because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are HOLY. The question i have for you and everyone one is ARE YOU HOLY? DO WE OBEY THE "DO & DON"T" of Almighty God as thats what makes us HOLY. So man, drop it and stop accusing or judging this man, No one can judge who is going to HEAVEN or HELL.....But this guy (Xaiyu) stand a good chance of going to HEAVEN as to (2 Peter 2:21) says.......He stand a good chance than you people calling your selves BELIEVERS/CHRISTIANS. Are you a true BELIEVER?
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Quote from: Xaiyu on 15-03-2012 09:20 AM There was a time when no one could defend the Christian religion like me. That was then. As now, Like then, l have come to know that when this topic comes up, it is the ones who go against the commandments on daily basis as stated in the bible they claim to defend, shout out the most. From my comments, l did not insult any one or religion, so you do not have to lunch rockets at me. That’s my opinion. You don’t like it, say what you want to say without loading and releasing ur rockets. The things you said had already being answered by my comments. You said my parents got the message about God from my grandparents, fine. I posted there that Christianity came to us by the white men. Now my friend, when did Christianity reach Africa? By whom? Through what? Get the answers and you would have answered yourself. Also, you referred me to the bible. My dear, l posted before, who wrote the bible? We will still come back to the story of God inspiring people to do so. How do you know of this, Your grandparents told you, fine. Still comes back to the white man bringing it to you. I am what you call a realist, l do not believe or accept what people say without a reason or a proof. If l can’t see the man with a gun, feel him, touch him, then that man does not exist. If the man stands in front of me and says, hands up, then we are talking. See, how old are you today? How many times have the god you serve said hello to you since you were born? Have you ever touched or felt him? Some times l wonder if the idol worshiper is not better off, cause at least, he can feal, see and touch what he serves. Before the coming of the white men, people believed in certain deities. The Yorubas talked of Oduduwa, the Ibos talked of Amadioha, the binis talked of Oromila, so on and so forth. Ask ur parents they will confirm this. Christianity was a tool by the white men to deceive you to give them what they needed. Don’t get me wrong, l know man did not fall from the sky, we must have come here to earth by a means which we are still yet to know. There were men who ones said the earth was not round and also talked about gravity. People, especially the church, said they were mad. Today, things these people talked about are being applied in every day science and one of them is what you are reading this message with. A lady asked earlier which country in Europe l am. Am not here to tell you that. I said Europe to make you understand why l said whites don’t go to church. As she rightly said, some do, but 98.9 percent don’t and don’t want to hear of God. The reverse is the case in Nigeria. 90 percent go to church and claim to defend their faith, but look at the life of its citizens. Some want to own it all, while others are hungry. The fastest way to making money now is by fraud. Morals have being thrown to the wind and people like Chris, Joshua etc are taking advantage of the ignorance of the people. I bet you that in a day, you break at least one commandment of the God you serve, knowing full well your bible says its sin. If you are married you must be committing adultery, physically or with your eyes. If you are single, you must have a girl friend you are jingling, which is fornication. If you fire at people for saying their minds, how can you convince another to join the faith you are defending? I believe you can make ur point without the fireworks. Experience has taught me not to fight this war cause, people who claim righteous will want to have the last say, so l won’t respond to any other comment, i believe l have made my point. Good day. More power to your elbow......But still, always believe in the existence of GOD Almighty as GOD truly EXIST!!!! But you really make sense!
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For me as a chosen mastubation is a sin, so I dnt bliv in pst chris said abt mastubation, but sha pple must have there own believe. Reply
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Quote from: Dejola24856 on 15-03-2012 06:13 PM I just chose to respond to your comment despite the fact that its full of error, but just had to enlighten you more about what the bible says.......This goes to everyone in general even I REMAIN A PRACTICING MUSLIM, But still i understood every single comment made by (Xaiyu) You are claiming to be a true believer, but see below what your bible says about the so called BELIEVERS and the NON-BELIEVERS...Even people calling "Jesus" and "God God God" Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 60 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME, you workers of LAWLESNESS.’ 2 Peter 2:21 "It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them Corinthians 7:13-14 ESV / 100 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made HOLY because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made HOLY because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are HOLY. The question i have for you and everyone one is ARE YOU HOLY? DO WE OBEY THE "DO & DON"T" of Almighty God as thats what makes us HOLY. So man, drop it and stop accusing or judging this man, No one can judge who is going to HEAVEN or HELL.....But this guy (Xaiyu) stand a good chance of going to HEAVEN as to (2 Peter 2:21) says.......He stand a good chance than you people calling your selves BELIEVERS/CHRISTIANS. Are you a true BELIEVER? you lack understanding,wisdom and knowledge ,in fact i don't even know what to call you,you are fooling yourself,you just open a verse of Bible to quote to me at ending telling me who stand a chance to go to hell and heaven....you are idiot
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Quote from: Xaiyu on 15-03-2012 09:20 AM There was a time when no one could defend the Christian religion like me. That was then. As now, Like then, l have come to know that when this topic comes up, it is the ones who go against the commandments on daily basis as stated in the bible they claim to defend, shout out the most. From my comments, l did not insult any one or religion, so you do not have to lunch rockets at me. That’s my opinion. You don’t like it, say what you want to say without loading and releasing ur rockets. The things you said had already being answered by my comments. You said my parents got the message about God from my grandparents, fine. I posted there that Christianity came to us by the white men. Now my friend, when did Christianity reach Africa? By whom? Through what? Get the answers and you would have answered yourself. Also, you referred me to the bible. My dear, l posted before, who wrote the bible? We will still come back to the story of God inspiring people to do so. How do you know of this, Your grandparents told you, fine. Still comes back to the white man bringing it to you. I am what you call a realist, l do not believe or accept what people say without a reason or a proof. If l can’t see the man with a gun, feel him, touch him, then that man does not exist. If the man stands in front of me and says, hands up, then we are talking. See, how old are you today? How many times have the god you serve said hello to you since you were born? Have you ever touched or felt him? Some times l wonder if the idol worshiper is not better off, cause at least, he can feal, see and touch what he serves. Before the coming of the white men, people believed in certain deities. The Yorubas talked of Oduduwa, the Ibos talked of Amadioha, the binis talked of Oromila, so on and so forth. Ask ur parents they will confirm this. Christianity was a tool by the white men to deceive you to give them what they needed. Don’t get me wrong, l know man did not fall from the sky, we must have come here to earth by a means which we are still yet to know. There were men who ones said the earth was not round and also talked about gravity. People, especially the church, said they were mad. Today, things these people talked about are being applied in every day science and one of them is what you are reading this message with. A lady asked earlier which country in Europe l am. Am not here to tell you that. I said Europe to make you understand why l said whites don’t go to church. As she rightly said, some do, but 98.9 percent don’t and don’t want to hear of God. The reverse is the case in Nigeria. 90 percent go to church and claim to defend their faith, but look at the life of its citizens. Some want to own it all, while others are hungry. The fastest way to making money now is by fraud. Morals have being thrown to the wind and people like Chris, Joshua etc are taking advantage of the ignorance of the people. I bet you that in a day, you break at least one commandment of the God you serve, knowing full well your bible says its sin. If you are married you must be committing adultery, physically or with your eyes. If you are single, you must have a girl friend you are jingling, which is fornication. If you fire at people for saying their minds, how can you convince another to join the faith you are defending? I believe you can make ur point without the fireworks. Experience has taught me not to fight this war cause, people who claim righteous will want to have the last say, so l won’t respond to any other comment, i believe l have made my point. Good day. from your comment i understand you falling race,who have loose grip and hold because of what you hear and see people do,no christian had claim to be righteous or perfect but we all working for perfection,yes we all sin everyday directly or indirectly,but let us not rejoice in sins and deceive people to commit sin.
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i dnt see why m,,,t,,b..tion is not a sin,i ll not accept anything just bcos a pastor says it,there is bible the word of God to crosscheck the fact.period Reply
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sincerely speeking, most men and woman indulge in that act, but the fact of the issue is MASTUBATION IS NOTHING BUT A SIN, Thats the honest truth. i can;t understand whay pastor chris cae out openly and said masturbation is not a sin. hmmmmm, may God help us, trully we are in the last days. Reply
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