Bishops condemn moves by Saudi Arabia King to Distroy churches (Page 11)

Date: 14-04-2012 3:17 pm (12 years ago) | Author: Faith Dafe
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- Desmond23 at 15-04-2012 01:22 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: phyukinjoe2 on 14-04-2012 11:33 PM
you're a skinny ass idiot.....did you hear me insult muhammad..?  i said i was going to kill the animal if he ever comes across me in life.... muhammad was the greatest psycho of all time.  
       am also not interested in you monkey.........but whenever you comment shit here, i will surely post something for you back.     moron.


YOU ARE AS phyukED AS YOUR NAME. Son of bitch, SISTER phyukER. Listen very well, If YOU people to failed to tell you the truth, you haven't heard the truth yet. You LOW LIFE SESAME COCK SUCKER. Pig like you, in fact calling you a pig is an INSULT to the pigs colony because of your LOW ILLITERATE MOTHERphyukINGJOE LIFE.

I don't hate Christian, because I got Christian too in the FAMILY but you come up with all those statements about my DEAR prophet and I will give QUOTES on Christian RAPE and  atrocities in around the world unless you have been living in another planet.

IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT, BRING IT AND I WILL SURE BRING YOU MORE DRAMA.
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- Desmond23 at 15-04-2012 01:26 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: divyne on 15-04-2012 11:38 AM
Stupid Religion!!!!!!!!!! And for that foolish woman that calls herself fataweeeeeeeee or whateve! ???r she will live to regrate all her useless comments here, when the time comes for her to realise that islam is not a Religion to be proud of............ just wait and see when she will start apologizing to all Christians in the house for her stupid and useless comments


WHAT ABOUT THE POSTER? The poster of this message should apologize to the folks in the house for posting this message. SHE IS AS DUMP AS YOU. Christianity is a fascist and not a religion. WAKE UP.
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- Desmond23 at 15-04-2012 01:34 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: prince775 on 15-04-2012 01:18 PM
VERY STUPID AND SENSELESS ISLAMIC FOOLS.

IS YOUR LIFE ANY BETTER? What a SENSELESS DUNCE you are for saying that. ALAKORI
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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 01:34 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 09:21 PM
Just like your hopeless mother and entire generation would be destroyed. Is America, france, uk, germany, canada among others, muslim land? hell no! Yet they tolerated muslims and allowed them the freedom of worship. But been the wicked and devilish people u muslims are, you want to deny christians there the right to worship. After you all would start preaching rubbish peace just to fool yourselves. I've always said it and i'll keep saying it. A muslim will tell what you what you to hear when they want comfort and access to your life or environment. A muslim man/woman preaches peace but practice violence. They are the most crafty set of people you can ever find on earth. Reply ASAP you hopeless islamic slave.
Well said

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- Desmond23 at 15-04-2012 01:45 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: arsenal123 on 15-04-2012 02:02 AM

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

I DO NOT BELEIVE THAT THESE ARE THE WORDS OF OUR LOVING GOD. MUHAMMAD WAS TRICKED, HE WAS NOT HEARING FROM GOD BUT FROM EVIL. MUHAMMAD KILLED MANY PEOPLE.

WHAT KIND OF A PROPHET OF GOD IS HE, ONE THAT KILLS FOR GOD. NO, HE WAS NO PROPHET.

GOD LOVES US, HE TUAGHT US TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER, NOT TO KILL, BUT TO TREAT EACH OTHER WITH LOVE.

AMEN



I HOPE YOU READ YOUR BIBLE WELL. Oh sorry, It a STORY OR HISTORY BOOK. Let me as you one question my HATRED SISTERphyukER, What happened to the early PAGANS in EUROPE and MIDDLE EAST, What did the earlier CHRISTIAN Protestant or churches did to them? THEY WIPE THEM OUT, To spread LIES, To Infect us with LIES. They same early CHRISTIAN PROTESTANT TOOK BLACK FOLKS AS SLAVE AND MADE THEM WORK ON THE SUGAR FARMS IN AMERICA AND EUROPE. So bro, better wake up and Follow the true path and STOP LISTENING to yourself.

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 01:47 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 10:01 PM

unbelieeeeeeeeevable

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 01:52 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: Bachelorette on 14-04-2012 10:01 PM
Mohammed, the founder of Islam, was a warrior and ruler who conquered Mecca and the Hijaz from his base in Medina. Following The Prophet's death in 632, Islam was spread by Arab and Muslim conquest. There are Muslims who are not Arabs, but the first phase of expansion was Arab expansion. The ruler of the Muslim world, the successor to Mohammed, was the Caliph - "the shadow of God on earth."

The Caliph was both the religious and political head of the Muslim world which, unlike the Christian world, draws no distinction between the two.

In North Africa and the Middle East, the lands that the Arab Muslim world expanded into were controlled by the Byzantine Empire, the successor to the Roman Empire, with its capital at Constantinople. These were Christian lands.

To the East, between the Middle East and India, was the Persian Empire with a different religious tradition.

At the death of Mohammed in 632, the realm of Islam consisted of northwest Arabia.

To the north and west is Christian Byzantium, to the east is Persia. Neither of these are Arab; neither of them are Muslim.

But within 100 years, the territory from Persia to Spain is controlled by Muslim Arabs. How did this happen? Egypt, for instance, was not in 632 an Arab country. It was of a different ethnic stock and had been in existence for 3600 years!
What happened was conquest, one of the most impressive in history. Here is a very brief timeline:

    630 - Mohammed conquers Mecca from his base in Medina.

    632 - Mohammed dies in Medina. Islam controls the Hijaz.

    636 - conquest of Syria. Victory in battle over the Byzantines gives Syria and the surrounding lands, all Christian - including Palestine and Iraq - to the Caliph.

    636 - 642 Persia conquered by the Muslims.

    642 - conquest of Egypt. The Arab/Muslim conquest moves west along North Africa into hitherto non-Arab/non-Muslim lands.

1st Muslim invasion: from the West

    711 - Tariq (after whom Gibraltar is named: the Rock of Tariq - Gib al-Tariq) invades Spain. The Muslim conquest moves into Europe.

    718 - conquest of Spain complete.

    732 - Muslim invasion of France is stopped at the Battle of Poitiers (also called the Battle of Tours). This is regarded as one of the turning points in world history. The Franks, under their leader Charles Martel (the grandfather of Charlemagne), defeat the Muslims and turn them back out of France.

Thus, in exactly 100 years, from the death of The Prophet in 632, to 732, the Arab/Muslim realm has extended from the Hijaz, a province in Arabia, to encompass Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Persia, Egypt, the North African littoral, Spain and, temporarily, part of France.

The first European interaction with Islam is with Islam in the role of a conquering army, and, in the case of Spain, one that comes to stay.

Spain becomes a Muslim colony. Over several hundred years, Spain is reconquered - the reconquista - for Christendom. The last Moors are expelled in 1492 by Ferdinand and Isabella.

In the 1300's, the Turks take over leadership of the Muslim world from the Arabs. They establish the Ottoman Empire with its capital at Christian Constantinople after conquering it in 1453. The Muslim world under Ottoman leadership begins incursions into Europe from the East.
2nd Muslim invasion of Europe: frome the East

    1453 - Muslim Turks conquer Christian Constantinople and make it the seat of the Caliphate

    1456 - Muslims conquer Athens

    1478 - Serbia, Bosnia, Crimea come under Ottoman control

    1480 - Otranto in Italy taken by the Ottomans

    1529 - Vienna besieged by the Ottomans

    1683 - Battle of Vienna. The Turks are defeated by the Polish king Jan Sobieski leading a combined Polish-Lithuanian army. This is the high-water-mark of Turkish/Muslim conquest of Europe from the East.


Thanks for tis piece

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- ajanni at 15-04-2012 01:54 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: nice9ija on 14-04-2012 05:21 PM
they are just same anywhere they are
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- ajanni at 15-04-2012 01:58 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: Bachelorette on 14-04-2012 10:19 PM

It will be my pleasure to watch you die in my hands. You disgusting Ashawo! I'll personal kill you. I look forward for another Civil war where the Country can be splited. Ashawo kobo kobo.


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- Bachelorette at 15-04-2012 02:00 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: Dejola24856 on 15-04-2012 10:35 AM


People sha.....WHERE IS THE fcukING SOURCE?


U of all ppo looking 4 phyuking source? Ok...here is the phyuking source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2DBOqlvx5k#

Are you satisfied?

Posted: at 15-04-2012 02:00 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Desmond23 at 15-04-2012 02:00 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: arsenal123 on 15-04-2012 03:38 AM
mohammed was looting, stealing, killing and enslaving people- he is the worst person to ever live.....

we can see that mohammed was born poor and had nothing......an orphan for that matter....

he raised an army for the purpose of stealing peoples things in the name of the almighty-

THE DEVIL ONLY COMES TO STEAL, KILL AND DESTROY.....



YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN PROPAGAND TOOK YOUR FOUR FATHERS AS SLAVE TOO, TO AMERICA TO WORK ON SUGAR CANE PLANTATIONS. Now they are stealing your resources in your country (NAIJA) to make a better world for themselves. Oh I FORGOT JESUS (PROPHET ISA (A.S.W)) was accused of lying too about the message to his people by HIS FELLOW JEW who took you as slave and they spreads lies about him. At one point in your LOW SISTERphyukING LIFE you will be an ORPHAN TOO, IT IS A FACT, SO YOU BETTER GET USED TO IT. It is either you were raised by your parents or you were born as an orphan. DUNCE LIKE YOU.

AM NOT GOING TO INSULT CHRISTIANITY AS A RELIGION, AM GOING TO INSULT YOU INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU DO NOT KNOW YOUR FACT WELL BEFORE YOU INSULT US GENERALLY AS A MUSLIM.
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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 02:03 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 10:06 PM

If they destroy churches in Saudi Arabia and drive out Christians then, also in Christian land, places
like America, UK, most countries of Europe all mosques should also be destroy and Muslim driven out

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 02:03 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 10:06 PM

If they destroy churches in Saudi Arabia and drive out Christians then, also in Christian land, places
like America, UK, most countries of Europe all mosques should also be destroy and Muslim driven out

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- Desmond23 at 15-04-2012 02:04 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: Solidstonez on 15-04-2012 01:52 PM
Thanks for tis piece

YOU ARE JUST AS FACELESS AS THE REST OF THEM. He posted and edited book and you jumped to conclusion. You have no CLUE. Get a life.
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- Bachelorette at 15-04-2012 02:05 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 15-04-2012 01:58 PM
empty vesel makes most noises

It's a waste of tym talking 2 sum1 wo can't evn xpress himself in simple and correct english. Die hard, undiluted Illiterate.

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 02:05 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 10:10 PM

Can you imagine

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 02:07 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 10:21 PM

just for been a Christian? na by force to practice Islam

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 02:08 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: Bachelorette on 14-04-2012 10:23 PM
The beduin Arabs who toppled the Sassanid Empire were propelled not only by a desire for conquest but also by a new religion, Islam. The Prophet Mohammad, a member of the Hashimite clan of the powerful tribe of Quraysh, proclaimed his prophetic mission in Arabia in 612 and eventually won over the city of his birth, Mecca, to the new faith. Within one year of Muhammad's death in 632, Arabia itself was secure enough to allow his secular successor, Abu Bakr, the first caliph, to begin the campaign against the Byzantine and Sassanid Empires.

Abu Bakr defeated the Byzantine army at Damascus in 635 and then began his conquest of Iran. In 637 the Arab forces occupied the Sassanid capital of Ctesiphon (which they renamed Madain), and in 641-42 they defeated the Sassanid army at Nahavand. After that, Iran lay open to the invaders. The Islamic conquest was aided by the material and social bankruptcy of the Sassanids; the native populations had little to lose by cooperating with the conquering power. Moreover, the Muslims offered relative religious tolerance and fair treatment to populations that accepted Islamic rule without resistance. It was not until around 650, however, that resistance in Iran was quelled. Conversion to Islam, which offered certain advantages, was fairly rapid among the urban population but slower among the peasantry and the dihqans [farmers]. The majority of Iranians did not become Muslim until the ninth century.

Although the conquerors, especially the Umayyads (the Muslim rulers who succeeded Mohammad from 661-750), tended to stress the primacy of Arabs among Muslims, the Iranians were gradually integrated into the new community. The Muslim conquerors adopted the Sassanid coinage system and many Sassanid administrative practices, including the office of vizier, or minister, and the divan, a bureau or register for controlling state revenue and expenditure that became a characteristic of administration throughout Muslim lands. Later caliphs adopted Iranian court ceremonial practices and the trappings of Sassanid monarchy. Men of Iranian origin served as administrators after the conquest, and Iranians contributed significantly to all branches of Islamic learning, including philology, literature, history, geography, jurisprudence, philosophy, medicine, and the sciences.

The Arabs were in control, however. The new state religion, Islam, imposed its own system of beliefs, laws, and social mores. In regions that submitted peacefully to Muslim rule, landowners kept their land. But crown land, land abandoned by fleeing owners, and land taken by conquest passed into the hands of the new state. This included the rich lands of the Sawad, a rich, alluvial plain in central and southern Iraq. Arabic became the official language of the court in 696, although Persian continued to be widely used as the spoken language. The shuubiyya literary controversy of the ninth through the eleventh centuries, in which Arabs and Iranians each lauded their own and denigrated the other's cultural traits, suggests the survival of a certain sense of distinct Iranian identity. In the ninth century, the emergence of more purely Iranian ruling dynasties witnessed the revival of the Persian language, enriched by Arabic loanwords and using the Arabic script, and of Persian literature.

Another legacy of the Arab conquest was Shia Islam, which, although it has come to be identified closely with Iran, was not initially an Iranian religious movement. It originated with the Arab Muslims. In the great schism of Islam, one group among the community of believers maintained that leadership of the community following the death of prophet Mohammad rightfully belonged to Mohammad's son-in-law, Ali, and to his descendants. This group came to be known as the Shiat Ali, the partisans of Ali, or the Shias. Another group, supporters of Muawiya (a rival contender for the caliphate following the murder of Uthman), challenged Ali's election to the caliphate in 656. After Ali was assassinated while praying in a mosque at Kufa in 661, Muawiya was declared caliph by the majority of the Islamic community. He became the first caliph of the Umayyad dynasty, which had its capital at Damascus.

Ali's youngest son, Hossain, refused to pay the homage commanded by Muawiya's son and successor Yazid I and fled to Mecca, where he was asked to lead the Shias--mostly those living in present-day Iraq--in a revolt. At Karbala, in Iraq, Hossain's band of 200 men and women followers, unwilling to surrender, were finally cut down by about 4,000 Umayyad troops. The Umayyad leader received Hossain's head, and Hossain's death in 680 on the tenth of Moharram continues to be observed as a day of mourning for all Shias.

The largest concentration of Shias in the first century of Islam was in southern Iraq. It was not until the sixteenth century, under the Safavids, that a majority of Iranians became Shias. Shia Islam became then, as it is now, the state religion.

The Abbasids, who overthrew the Umayyads in 750, while sympathetic to the Iranian Shias, were clearly an Arab dynasty. They revolted in the name of descendants of Mohammad's uncle, Abbas, and the House of Hashim. Hashim was an ancestor of both the Shia and the Abbas, or Sunni, line, and the Abbasid movement enjoyed the support of both Sunni and Shia Muslims. The Abbasid army consisted primarily of Khorasanians [Khorasan, a region in the north east of Iran] and was led by an Iranian general, Abu Moslim Khorasani. It contained both Iranian and Arab elements, and the Abbasids enjoyed both Iranian and Arab support.

Nevertheless, the Abbasids, although sympathetic to the Shias, whose support they wished to retain, did not encourage the more extremist Shia aspirations. The Abbasids established their capital at Baghdad. Al Mamon, who seized power from his brother, Amin, and proclaimed himself caliph in 811, had an Iranian mother and thus had a base of support in Khorasan. The Abbasids continued the centralizing policies of their predecessors. Under their rule, the Islamic world experienced a cultural efflorescence and the expansion of trade and economic prosperity. These were developments in which Iran shared.

Iran's next ruling dynasties descended from nomadic, Turkic-speaking warriors who had been moving out of Central Asia into Transoxiana for more than a millennium. The Abbasid caliphs began enlisting these people as slave warriors as early as the ninth century. Shortly thereafter the real power of the Abbasid caliphs began to wane; eventually they became religious figureheads while the warrior slaves ruled. As the power of the Abbasid caliphs diminished, a series of independent and indigenous dynasties rose in various parts of Iran, some with considerable influence and power. Among the most important of these overlapping dynasties were the Tahirids in Khorasan (820-72); the Saffarids in Sistan (867-903); and the Samanids (875-1005), originally at Bokhara . The Samanids eventually ruled an area from central Iran to India. In 962 a Turkish slave governor of the Samanids, Alptigin, conquered Ghazna (in present-day Afghanistan) and established the Ghaznavid Dynasty that lasted to 1186.

Several Samanid cities had been lost to another Turkish group, the Seljoks, a clan of the Oghoz (or Ghozz) Turks, who lived north of the Oxus River (present-day Amu Darya). Their leader, Toghril Beg, turned his warriors against the Ghaznavids in Khorasan. He moved south and then west, conquering but not wasting the cities in his path. In 1055 the caliph in Baghdad gave Toghril Beg robes, gifts, and the title King of the East. Under Toghril Beg's successor, Malik Shah (1072-92), Iran enjoyed a cultural and scientific renaissance, largely attributed to his brilliant Iranian vizier, Nezam al Molk. These leaders established the observatory where Omar Khayyam did much of his experimentation for a new calendar, and they built religious schools in all the major towns. They brought Abu Hamid Ghazali, one of the greatest Islamic theologians, and other eminent scholars to the Seljok capital at Baghdad and encouraged and supported their work.

A serious internal threat to the Seljoks, however, came from the Ismailis, a secret sect with headquarters at Alamot between Rasht and Tehran. They controlled the immediate area for more than 150 years and sporadically sent out adherents to strengthen their rule by murdering important officials. They were called assassins and hashishiyya as people believed that they smoked hashish before their missions.



http://www.iranchamber.com/history/islamic_conquest/islamic_conquest.php

nice one

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 02:09 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 10:28 PM

It will never be well with this ppl

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- Solidstonez at 15-04-2012 02:10 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: open_reality on 14-04-2012 10:42 PM

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