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Quote from: Laaw on 11-08-2010 09:53 AM Quote from: typicalman84 on 11-08-2010 12:49 AM Quote from: wunzie on 10-08-2010 11:35 PM Quote from: typicalman84 on 10-08-2010 03:58 AM The pride that women have when it comes to submitting to your husband is so over-rated. One thing i've noticed is that women misunderstand the word "submissive". It doesn't mean that when your husband ask you to burn yourself, you obey him. BUt please please please WOMEN...act like you are educated, because some of you women have PhDs in whatever area of study it is, but you can't keep your home together. I just do not understand the kind of PRIDE that hovers around these educated women that when the husbands respectfully ask for a favor, they will think he is being Bossy. You really do like to preach around here, don’t you? Anyhow, i think your preaching contains some element of truth most of the time. However, what keeps me wondering this time is how you came to the conclusion that any woman would consider being nicely asked a favour by her man as bossy. You know what my opinion is: it’s like trying to give a dog a bad name in order to hang it. Just so you know, a lot of women are not daft, whether educated or otherwise. Since you’ve brought it upon yourself to lecture us on female submissiveness/subservience, i’m really interested in what else you’ve got to say in this area. I'm not trying to preach or do anything or that sort. I was just stating the obvious. Women like to be pampered by their men, but they don't want to return the favor by pampering their men. I try to live and see my life in a Godly way. It is required that men LOVE their wives and Women should RESPECT their husbands. Also, maybe you do not know that God gave husbands the power to either Bless or Curse their wives. My point here is that most educated women think that doing things for the husbands are demeaning. For example making breakfast and serving him before he goes to work, OR cleaning up the house, Or even cooking dinner for the family after a day of work. Because you are educated shouldn't take away the responsibilities you have as a wife, (and please do not give me that excuse of why can't the man help in cooking or doing laundary or cleaning up the house) because I know that when your car breaks down or when the sink starts leaking or when it is time to cut the lawn, it is the man that is called upon to do these things. I feel sorry for the lady saying "she put her husband in his place." I hope that very soon he will put her in her place which is out in the streets. What do you mean you own everything... because the US law has made it so? Is that why you are being a disrespectful wife? because even if you separate with your husband the law will give you everything the man has worked for? May God help you as well. What goes around comes around for sure. This is the mentality of an insufficient brain/mind. I'M THA MAN IN MY CITY YO!!!
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Since when is it a law for divorce to giv d woman everytin ?? Reply
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Quote from: Laaw on 11-08-2010 09:53 AM Quote from: typicalman84 on 11-08-2010 12:49 AM Quote from: wunzie on 10-08-2010 11:35 PM Quote from: typicalman84 on 10-08-2010 03:58 AM The pride that women have when it comes to submitting to your husband is so over-rated. One thing i've noticed is that women misunderstand the word "submissive". It doesn't mean that when your husband ask you to burn yourself, you obey him. BUt please please please WOMEN...act like you are educated, because some of you women have PhDs in whatever area of study it is, but you can't keep your home together. I just do not understand the kind of PRIDE that hovers around these educated women that when the husbands respectfully ask for a favor, they will think he is being Bossy. You really do like to preach around here, don’t you? Anyhow, i think your preaching contains some element of truth most of the time. However, what keeps me wondering this time is how you came to the conclusion that any woman would consider being nicely asked a favour by her man as bossy. You know what my opinion is: it’s like trying to give a dog a bad name in order to hang it. Just so you know, a lot of women are not daft, whether educated or otherwise. Since you’ve brought it upon yourself to lecture us on female submissiveness/subservience, i’m really interested in what else you’ve got to say in this area. I'm not trying to preach or do anything or that sort. I was just stating the obvious. Women like to be pampered by their men, but they don't want to return the favor by pampering their men. I try to live and see my life in a Godly way. It is required that men LOVE their wives and Women should RESPECT their husbands. Also, maybe you do not know that God gave husbands the power to either Bless or Curse their wives. My point here is that most educated women think that doing things for the husbands are demeaning. For example making breakfast and serving him before he goes to work, OR cleaning up the house, Or even cooking dinner for the family after a day of work. Because you are educated shouldn't take away the responsibilities you have as a wife, (and please do not give me that excuse of why can't the man help in cooking or doing laundary or cleaning up the house) because I know that when your car breaks down or when the sink starts leaking or when it is time to cut the lawn, it is the man that is called upon to do these things. I feel sorry for the lady saying "she put her husband in his place." I hope that very soon he will put her in her place which is out in the streets. l was Expecting dis Underlined Reply, cos l can clearly tell dat the Nigerian Guy yu're married to is Dependent, from yur Response since WHEN YU DIE YU TAKE NOTHING WITH YU, SO PLS PUT A SMILE ON YUR NEIGHBOR'S FACE
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Quote from: FlyMamacita on 11-08-2010 03:46 PM Since when is it a law for divorce to giv d woman everytin ?? heheheheeeeeeeeeeeeee !!! maybe a law that is written on the reverse ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() "Those who will say nothing in the face of tyranny must endure the rule of idiots . All that you need for evil to triumph is for the good people to keep quiet and do nothing".
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Quote from: typicalman84 on 10-08-2010 01:19 AM Quote from: Bettychy on 9-08-2010 05:11 PM Can someone tell me at what age marriage could be termed "late"?. I wouldn`t know why everyone seems to agree with this argument. I see it quit differently. Well the truth is this... Marriage has nothing to do with AGE, But if you get into a marriage with the intentions of having Kids(DuuuH!!), that's when the Age thing comes in. An unofficial research report shows that over 35% Nigerian ladies graduate from tertiary institutions married, while about 41% graduate with engagement rings on their fingers. About 5% of the later breaks up after graduation. That means that over 70% of our ladies marry before or shortly after graduation and doesn`t necessarily mean that the rest (less than 30%) remains unmarried until old age. I do not see your point here as this research report could be accurate, it doesn't give the ages of these so called married/engaged women. There are alot of women in their 30's that are still university students whether engaged or not. And mind you, being engaged doesn't mean you are married. So, with that being said, the report and your argument is disparative to the post. I however agree that there`re ladies, who marry or would want to marry at late 30s & early 40s but they`r a very insignificant minority in Nigeria. On the other hand, education opens a new version of wisdom and knowledge and therefore introduces a new lifestyle as a result of a new life perspective, behavioral change that matches the new life, and completely different sets of ideologies (the speedy reduction of family sizes among the middle class is evidential;one,two or three children as against 11, 12,13...). The new lifestyle contradicts the traditional African cultural practices. Women now understand themselves as "whole", (full human) with rights & respect, independent entities and no more mere kitchen servants & child production machines that answers --yes Sir-- to every erection without love making. Again, as much I agree with you on this, I still think that your point is very weak. Education opening a new version of wisdom and knowledge has no correlation to marriage. I'm not exactly sure how not being married is wisdom and/or knowledge. If you are a Christian, you will know that the only reason a man or woman may choose to be unmarried is if they decide to serve God the rest of their lives(being a Rev. Father/Sister or something similar). The same new lifestyle you speak of teaches our young girls that staying and working out your marriage problems with your spouse is never a way to handle a shaky marriage. Now the only way is to get a divorce. Again, bearing in mind that there`re more educated women than men in the present day Nigeria, most women find it very difficult to adjust back to the world of uneducated men in marriage due to the shortage of educated men, after haven been introduced to a completely new world. The fear of misunderstanding of ideas, unnecessary arguments, wrong interpretation of lifestyle, wrong & irresponsible presentation of oneself in the public, unlit future full of ordinarily avoidable uncertainties that might not be avoided due to ignorant partner etc., force some women to chose satisfying themselves & utilizing their freedom before venturing into such marriages. Education and Marriage has nothing in common. Marriage entered into by two non-educated (university) couples last longer than that of the so-called one Educated, one non educated couple especially if the woman is the educated one. Permit me if I say that Education(School) doesn't necessarily mean Wisdom. One could be an Educated Dummie you know. And you'll be surprised that there are alot of UnEducated wizards. Ascribing it to the hope of abroad based Nigerian guys is a misunderstanding that emanates out of ignorance attached to the believe "I know" due to a few cases of such. And even if that could be true, then the guys must have known the lifestyle the ladies seek for and not just for the sake of being abroad or being financially buoyant. Permit me to ask: must a lady marry? must she marry early? must she even marry a Nigerian based...? A change of attitude on the side of our beloved, honored, most cherished & celebrated Nigerian men `ll go a long way to correcting this "minority lifestyle" if that must be. Yes a lady must marry unless she has dedicated her life completely to serving God.Sorry it was my law.This is Biblical. The question of marrying earlier depends on if she really wants to bear children, but again it's hard to find a man that doesn't want children even if the lady do not want any kids. So that would be called SELFISH. A Nigerian woman doesn't have to marry a Nigerian based, but when the intentions are just to travel abroad and then leave your husband wifeless that is totally unacceptable and I would fight with everything I have to get that bitch deported back to Nigeria. It`s pretty cool and interesting reading your sincere opinion & believe of what life is or should be in marriage and I really commend that because I see it as a rooted challenge. Haven gone through all your responses to different comments on this topic, I see a sincere submission of a set of rigid ideologies based on religious believe & traditional African practices; thank God I`m a core African girl & I believe in God as well. I know what you represent & I`v got people like you all around me, and so, I understand your view. And like they say: "in all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane" and where an opinion is general, it is usually "correct". Based on the rigidity of your view, I wouldn`t argue further but just point out a few facts. You see part of my submission as being weak, & some like you said lack point & as such do not cohere to the topic. This is because you refused to understand my words in the context of my view which you`v already rejected. You are of the opinion that academic qualification has got nothing to do with marriage. I wonder if anybody else would want me to react to that. That aside, we live in a world, where figures are easily manipulated and abused which was why I tried being careful and thus "unauthorized" But if we must work with figures, allow me give you a short clue. According to the Federal Ministry of Women Affairs, the average graduation age of Nigerian female students lies at 24 (between 1960 & 2008). The same source, in response to the fight against premature marriage, unwanted pregnancies, forced marriage, female child labour in form of marriage and the widely circulated rumour that female Nigerians graduate late & as a result remain perpetual spinsters says, that 91% of female Nigerian graduates marry in their twenties while only 5% & 2% marry in their early/mid and late thirties respectively. When we talk about graduates here, we refer to First Degree/HND/NCE holders and their like. When you do your research well, you `ll find out however that most female who marry late are those that pursue higher qualifications(PGD, masters, PHD...) and most marry before or shortly after graduation before their continued pursuit of higher knowledge. Responding to one of your responses: whether you like/accept it or not, carrier pursuit denies a woman part of her societal traditionally recognized responsibilities either regularly or at interval.
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Wow! l might need my Glasses for dis Lecture ReplyWHEN YU DIE YU TAKE NOTHING WITH YU, SO PLS PUT A SMILE ON YUR NEIGHBOR'S FACE
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Quote from: onyiis on 11-08-2010 04:00 PM Quote from: FlyMamacita on 11-08-2010 03:46 PM Since when is it a law for divorce to giv d woman everytin ?? heheheheeeeeeeeeeeeee !!! maybe a law that is written on the reverse ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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The issue is some ladies believe that education is the best they want, without knowing that any sucessfull woman there is a man Reply
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they want guys with money and not love Reply
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Quote from: typicalman84 on 11-08-2010 12:49 AM Quote from: wunzie on 10-08-2010 11:35 PM Quote from: typicalman84 on 10-08-2010 03:58 AM The pride that women have when it comes to submitting to your husband is so over-rated. One thing i've noticed is that women misunderstand the word "submissive". It doesn't mean that when your husband ask you to burn yourself, you obey him. BUt please please please WOMEN...act like you are educated, because some of you women have PhDs in whatever area of study it is, but you can't keep your home together. I just do not understand the kind of PRIDE that hovers around these educated women that when the husbands respectfully ask for a favor, they will think he is being Bossy. You really do like to preach around here, don’t you? Anyhow, i think your preaching contains some element of truth most of the time. However, what keeps me wondering this time is how you came to the conclusion that any woman would consider being nicely asked a favour by her man as bossy. You know what my opinion is: it’s like trying to give a dog a bad name in order to hang it. Just so you know, a lot of women are not daft, whether educated or otherwise. Since you’ve brought it upon yourself to lecture us on female submissiveness/subservience, i’m really interested in what else you’ve got to say in this area. I'm not trying to preach or do anything or that sort. I was just stating the obvious. Women like to be pampered by their men, but they don't want to return the favor by pampering their men. I try to live and see my life in a Godly way. It is required that men LOVE their wives and Women should RESPECT their husbands. Also, maybe you do not know that God gave husbands the power to either Bless or Curse their wives. My point here is that most educated women think that doing things for the husbands are demeaning. For example making breakfast and serving him before he goes to work, OR cleaning up the house, Or even cooking dinner for the family after a day of work. Because you are educated shouldn't take away the responsibilities you have as a wife, (and please do not give me that excuse of why can't the man help in cooking or doing laundary or cleaning up the house) because I know that when your car breaks down or when the sink starts leaking or when it is time to cut the lawn, it is the man that is called upon to do these things. I feel sorry for the lady saying "she put her husband in his place." I hope that very soon he will put her in her place which is out in the streets. I have no problems with men alluding to female traditional roles in order to clarify the position of a woman in the home. I think it sounds cool. However, the whole issue gets complicated when viewed against the backdrop of the challenges that modern women face. A modern career woman facing expectations from a highly demanding job just like her male colleague would no doubt be tired and stressed out most of the time. To expect that she would get into/out of the kitchen, clean, do household laundry, submit to him at night......... and still going strong all the time without some measure of support from her partner at different times would amount to treating her like a super human being. What is wrong with men helping out in the kitchen from time to time? In the first instance, a man who supports his wife in this manner is helping to reduce the stress she faces, and hopefully in that way demonstrating his affection for the woman. Secondly, the money an educated career woman earns is most likely to be directed towards the upkeep and well being of the family. So, since the man is going to be one of the beneficiaries of the income, it’s sensible to expect that he should do everything to support the woman just like he would expect to be supported. When we make reference to traditional feminine roles, we should in the course of relating them to contemporary times take account of current situations. It’s absolutely ridiculous to make comparison with the past without taking proper account of each context (traditional/contemporary times). FAKE PROFILES DOESN'T BOTHER ME ONE BIT, UNLESS PEOPLE HIDE BEHIND THEM TO SPIT VENOM. SHOW THE BOLDNESS OF A LION NEXT TIME......USE YOUR ORIGINAL PROFILE!!
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Quote from: FlyMamacita on 11-08-2010 03:46 PM Since when is it a law for divorce to giv d woman everytin ?? When you live in the US, you will know exactly what i'm talking about... it's even worse if the woman has children for the man because the LAW will give her custody of the children and because of that she will be giving more than 75% of what the man has worked for. And the man will be kicked out of his own home. I'M THA MAN IN MY CITY YO!!!
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What do you think happened to Tiger woods? His wife was give 750 million dollars and a mansion worth millions of dollars. Do you know how much Tiger still have in the bank after this? probably not anything close. ReplyI'M THA MAN IN MY CITY YO!!!
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Your the one who has the problem. The only way the husband gets half is if it was aquired during the marriage and that depends on what state you are in. If a prenupt is signed before the marriage, he can end up with nothing. I had everything before we married. I am old enough to be you mother. But oh, I forgot, you live in one of the most backward states in the U.S. They love lynching Black men. Check your history. If us Black Americans did not fight for freedom you would not have the pleasures of working here, your education, or just existing here. Read your Bible and learn respect on this website. Reply
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Kennee he just arrived here. This means he has not been able to aquire anything yet. When he does, it belongs to him, because he worked for it. It is sad when people on here assume they know things about others without asking questions first. The sadder part is when they are educated and do not think to ask the right questions before opening their mouths. Reply
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Quote from: Laaw on 12-08-2010 12:02 AM Your the one who has the problem. The only way the husband gets half is if it was aquired during the marriage and that depends on what state you are in. If a prenupt is signed before the marriage, he can end up with nothing. I had everything before we married. I am old enough to be you mother. But oh, I forgot, you live in one of the most backward states in the U.S. They love lynching Black men. Check your history. If us Black Americans did not fight for freedom you would not have the pleasures of working here, your education, or just existing here. Read your Bible and learn respect on this website. Here we go again with the slave, typical black, feel sorry for me because whites enslaved our forefathers talk. Now you made it clear why you abuse your husband and treat him anyway you want. Because he is lacking in places where a real man shouldn't lack. He lives in your house, run errands for you, wipes your behind, and probably washes your undies. I am not your problem, your husband is so take it out on him. Isn't it shameful that you are old enough to be my mother, like you pointed out, and still have the effrontery to come in here chit chatting with 'KIDS' who are young enough to be your 'Children'. You hold that man down so you can control everything...power monger... And you think you're good in the eyes of God. I might live in Birmingham, AL but I am sure I am more comfortable than you are wherever you are. I'M THA MAN IN MY CITY YO!!!
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When you use the sentence, 'I put him in his place', that ONLY says alot about you woman. So do not try to justify your act with some mumbo jumbos. Only women seeking power over their husbands say things like that. If you are Nigerian... a true Nigerian, then i feel sorry for you. ReplyI'M THA MAN IN MY CITY YO!!!
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Wow, this converted topic from the original thread is getting more interesting and educative, it's good at times to know what people think about their spouse or do to them; especially when the reverse becomes the case. ReplyLoving, humble and humorous to sane & reasonable people
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Quote from: edunze on 11-08-2010 08:08 PM The issue is some ladies believe that education is the best they want, without knowing that any sucessfull woman there is a man I think u are right I am as gentle as a dove and as wise as a serpent
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