Ramadan Kareem (Page 2)

Date: 16-08-2010 3:42 pm (14 years ago) | Author: Musa Yusuf
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- mubaji at 22-08-2010 08:42 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 22-08-2010 07:42 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 21-08-2010 08:39 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 20-08-2010 09:55 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 20-08-2010 08:57 PM
@ chik001
cut abusive-words out of this discussion and be objective, concentrate on the issue you started concerning symbols and not calling people names.
besides, answer the question i asked you before your last post "what do christians use cross for?"
Am sorry if I used any abusive words. Cross is a symbol peculiar to Christianity.

The significant of The Cross  has a more personal and individual meaning to we Christians’. We use it as a symbol or an image for the path of transformation, for what it means to follow Jesus The Christ.  It means to die and rise with The Christ.

Paul said:
"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me."  Galatians 2:20.
The cross to Christians’ is an image for that path of Spiritual and Psychological transformation that leads to a new identity and way of being.

perhaps you might have not seen this, but it's reality, the cherubim & seraphim church behind our home bows before the cross in the name of veneration same as the celestial churuch of christ close to my street; exactly like the idol-worshippers do. so i know no difference between the christian's cross and the pagan's idols.
or does it's use differ from one sect to another?
The point here is that you just want to find a reason to criticise.
 I know that when you want to pray you face the east; which is the location of The Kabba or Mecca.
Now, does it mean that you are bowing or praying to the eastern wind, Mecca or the Kabba?


if no critics, one might see the truth but decide to persist on his own way or chose to be dogmatic.
the reason Muslims face the Kaaba direction is clearly stated in the Holy Qur'an while the cross itself remains a controversial issue among the christians because some like the "Jehovah witness" don't use cross and even say Jesus wasn't crucified; unlike among the muslims -they all face the east-direction.
Posted: at 22-08-2010 08:42 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 23-08-2010 06:22 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: mubaji on 22-08-2010 08:42 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 22-08-2010 07:42 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 21-08-2010 08:39 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 20-08-2010 09:55 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 20-08-2010 08:57 PM
@ chik001
cut abusive-words out of this discussion and be objective, concentrate on the issue you started concerning symbols and not calling people names.
besides, answer the question i asked you before your last post "what do christians use cross for?"
Am sorry if I used any abusive words. Cross is a symbol peculiar to Christianity.

The significant of The Cross  has a more personal and individual meaning to we Christians’. We use it as a symbol or an image for the path of transformation, for what it means to follow Jesus The Christ.  It means to die and rise with The Christ.

Paul said:
"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me."  Galatians 2:20.
The cross to Christians’ is an image for that path of Spiritual and Psychological transformation that leads to a new identity and way of being.

perhaps you might have not seen this, but it's reality, the cherubim & seraphim church behind our home bows before the cross in the name of veneration same as the celestial churuch of christ close to my street; exactly like the idol-worshippers do. so i know no difference between the christian's cross and the pagan's idols.
or does it's use differ from one sect to another?
The point here is that you just want to find a reason to criticise.
 I know that when you want to pray you face the east; which is the location of The Kabba or Mecca.
Now, does it mean that you are bowing or praying to the eastern wind, Mecca or the Kabba?


if no critics, one might see the truth but decide to persist on his own way or chose to be dogmatic.
the reason Muslims face the Kaaba direction is clearly stated in the Holy Qur'an while the cross itself remains a controversial issue among the christians because some like the "Jehovah witness" don't use cross and even say Jesus wasn't crucified; unlike among the muslims -they all face the east-direction.
Here we go again...
In every faith there are dissidents or rivals who think they know better or have evolved from the former.
 The Jehova witness is to Christianity what Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is to Islam.
 They Ahmadiyya believe that the long-awaited Messiah has come in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad who was born in 1835 and was deleted in 1908. So, because Ahmadiyya believe that Prophet Mohammed is obsolete, does that  Islam less credible?

For your information; The Jehovah witness are not the only dissident to and from Christianity, let me number them for you and their alternative HOLY BOOKS for the benefit of doubt:

1. The Gail message - In the Light of Truth
2. Christ church of latter day saints - The book of Mommon
3. ECKANCKER - The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, ( The Shariyat )
4. Bahai faith -  (Kitáb-i-Aqdas)The book of Laws
5. The Unification Church - The Divine principle.

Many are still warming up...
 TRUE Christianity is not defined by People's action whether they believe in the Cross or not;  neither will atheist's opinion.

...and The Church
Jesus said:
... and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18 Cool

Posted: at 23-08-2010 06:22 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- attamem at 25-08-2010 08:57 PM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 23-08-2010 06:22 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 22-08-2010 08:42 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 22-08-2010 07:42 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 21-08-2010 08:39 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 20-08-2010 09:55 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 20-08-2010 08:57 PM
@ chik001
cut abusive-words out of this discussion and be objective, concentrate on the issue you started concerning symbols and not calling people names.
besides, answer the question i asked you before your last post "what do christians use cross for?"
Am sorry if I used any abusive words. Cross is a symbol peculiar to Christianity.

The significant of The Cross  has a more personal and individual meaning to we Christians’. We use it as a symbol or an image for the path of transformation, for what it means to follow Jesus The Christ.  It means to die and rise with The Christ.

Paul said:
"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me."  Galatians 2:20.
The cross to Christians’ is an image for that path of Spiritual and Psychological transformation that leads to a new identity and way of being.

perhaps you might have not seen this, but it's reality, the cherubim & seraphim church behind our home bows before the cross in the name of veneration same as the celestial churuch of christ close to my street; exactly like the idol-worshippers do. so i know no difference between the christian's cross and the pagan's idols.
or does it's use differ from one sect to another?
The point here is that you just want to find a reason to criticise.
 I know that when you want to pray you face the east; which is the location of The Kabba or Mecca.
Now, does it mean that you are bowing or praying to the eastern wind, Mecca or the Kabba?


if no critics, one might see the truth but decide to persist on his own way or chose to be dogmatic.
the reason Muslims face the Kaaba direction is clearly stated in the Holy Qur'an while the cross itself remains a controversial issue among the christians because some like the "Jehovah witness" don't use cross and even say Jesus wasn't crucified; unlike among the muslims -they all face the east-direction.
Here we go again...
In every faith there are dissidents or rivals who think they know better or have evolved from the former.
 The Jehova witness is to Christianity what Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is to Islam.
 They Ahmadiyya believe that the long-awaited Messiah has come in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad who was born in 1835 and was deleted in 1908. So, because Ahmadiyya believe that Prophet Mohammed is obsolete, does that  Islam less credible?

For your information; The Jehovah witness are not the only dissident to and from Christianity, let me number them for you and their alternative HOLY BOOKS for the benefit of doubt:

1. The Gail message - In the Light of Truth
2. Christ church of latter day saints - The book of Mommon
3. ECKANCKER - The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, ( The Shariyat )
4. Bahai faith -  (Kitáb-i-Aqdas)The book of Laws
5. The Unification Church - The Divine principle.

Many are still warming up...
 TRUE Christianity is not defined by People's action whether they believe in the Cross or not;  neither will atheist's opinion.

...and The Church
Jesus said:
... and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18 Cool


Are you saying christians have good five books of worship? And are called holy Book Bible?
Posted: at 25-08-2010 08:57 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming
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- cadanre at 27-08-2010 12:18 PM (14 years ago)
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The truth is bitter.
Posted: at 27-08-2010 12:18 PM (14 years ago) | Hero
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- chik001 at 31-08-2010 04:08 AM (14 years ago)
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Quote from: attamem on 25-08-2010 08:57 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 23-08-2010 06:22 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 22-08-2010 08:42 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 22-08-2010 07:42 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 21-08-2010 08:39 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 20-08-2010 09:55 PM
Quote from: mubaji on 20-08-2010 08:57 PM
@ chik001
cut abusive-words out of this discussion and be objective, concentrate on the issue you started concerning symbols and not calling people names.
besides, answer the question i asked you before your last post "what do christians use cross for?"
Am sorry if I used any abusive words. Cross is a symbol peculiar to Christianity.

The significant of The Cross  has a more personal and individual meaning to we Christians’. We use it as a symbol or an image for the path of transformation, for what it means to follow Jesus The Christ.  It means to die and rise with The Christ.

Paul said:
"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me."  Galatians 2:20.
The cross to Christians’ is an image for that path of Spiritual and Psychological transformation that leads to a new identity and way of being.

perhaps you might have not seen this, but it's reality, the cherubim & seraphim church behind our home bows before the cross in the name of veneration same as the celestial churuch of christ close to my street; exactly like the idol-worshippers do. so i know no difference between the christian's cross and the pagan's idols.
or does it's use differ from one sect to another?
The point here is that you just want to find a reason to criticise.
 I know that when you want to pray you face the east; which is the location of The Kabba or Mecca.
Now, does it mean that you are bowing or praying to the eastern wind, Mecca or the Kabba?


if no critics, one might see the truth but decide to persist on his own way or chose to be dogmatic.
the reason Muslims face the Kaaba direction is clearly stated in the Holy Qur'an while the cross itself remains a controversial issue among the christians because some like the "Jehovah witness" don't use cross and even say Jesus wasn't crucified; unlike among the muslims -they all face the east-direction.
Here we go again...
In every faith there are dissidents or rivals who think they know better or have evolved from the former.
 The Jehova witness is to Christianity what Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is to Islam.
 They Ahmadiyya believe that the long-awaited Messiah has come in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad who was born in 1835 and was deleted in 1908. So, because Ahmadiyya believe that Prophet Mohammed is obsolete, does that  Islam less credible?

For your information; The Jehovah witness are not the only dissident to and from Christianity, let me number them for you and their alternative HOLY BOOKS for the benefit of doubt:

1. The Gail message - In the Light of Truth
2. Christ church of latter day saints - The book of Mommon
3. ECKANCKER - The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, ( The Shariyat )
4. Bahai faith -  (Kitáb-i-Aqdas)The book of Laws
5. The Unification Church - The Divine principle.

Many are still warming up...
 TRUE Christianity is not defined by People's action whether they believe in the Cross or not;  neither will atheist's opinion.

...and The Church
Jesus said:
... and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18 Cool


Are you saying christians have good five books of worship? And are called holy Book Bible?
Grin, you guys are vey interesting, you kept beating around the bush, I dont think you understand my point. The above mentioned religious bodies and their holy books are dissidents from Almighty Christainity just like The Ahmadiyya branched out from the mainstream Islam. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ?
Posted: at 31-08-2010 04:08 AM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- morgrawl231 at 7-04-2016 06:33 PM (9 years ago)
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Greet rahmadan,,,,,leave Kareem alone
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