![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 20-10-2011 10:53 AM (12 years ago)  (f) Christians can't kill?
Who was doing the bulk of the killing in Bosnia? It wasn't the Moslems, I can tell you - it was done by Christian Serbs..
Christian priests took part in the killings in Rwanda.
I could go on, but I've made my point. @Cammywhite when we stop twisting arguments just to serve our purpose(s),then our grasp of the subject of discuss would not be biased and our imputs would as well be objective.You did imply in one of your posts that there are fakes in every religion and if you know so,it follows that those who killed were not christians but claim to be.Christians actually are dead to the flesh;this means they are not moved by the mundane things of the world system just like Christ.They live Christlike and Jesus never killed when he was here or fought any war.Most people claim christianity while they are not.I have said that the church buildings,wearing of cassocks,or colar or robes is not a qualification to being a christian or pastor.Let us get this things straight.
It's quite possible to be a Christian and to be a killer. You're shifting the goalposts constantly to whitewash Christians.
I have met Christians, and by your "definition", NOT ONE OF THEM WAS A REAL CHRISTIAN. If Christians are not moved by the mundane things of the world then they shouldn't be in politics or government, for example. | Posted: at 20-10-2011 10:53 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "hosbert") hosbert at 20-10-2011 11:25 AM (12 years ago) (m) Christians can't kill?
Who was doing the bulk of the killing in Bosnia? It wasn't the Moslems, I can tell you - it was done by Christian Serbs..
Christian priests took part in the killings in Rwanda.
I could go on, but I've made my point. @Cammywhite when we stop twisting arguments just to serve our purpose(s),then our grasp of the subject of discuss would not be biased and our imputs would as well be objective.You did imply in one of your posts that there are fakes in every religion and if you know so,it follows that those who killed were not christians but claim to be.Christians actually are dead to the flesh;this means they are not moved by the mundane things of the world system just like Christ.They live Christlike and Jesus never killed when he was here or fought any war.Most people claim christianity while they are not.I have said that the church buildings,wearing of cassocks,or colar or robes is not a qualification to being a christian or pastor.Let us get this things straight. It's quite possible to be a Christian and to be a killer. You're shifting the goalposts constantly to whitewash Christians. I have met Christians, and by your "definition", NOT ONE OF THEM WAS A REAL CHRISTIAN. If Christians are not moved by the mundane things of the world then they shouldn't be in politics or government, for example. Many are called but few are chosen. | Posted: at 20-10-2011 11:25 AM (12 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 20-10-2011 01:07 PM (12 years ago) (f) I've often wondered why it doesn't read "few choose". Saying "are chosen" seems to rule out free will. | Posted: at 20-10-2011 01:07 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "hosbert") hosbert at 20-10-2011 02:42 PM (12 years ago) (m) I've often wondered why it doesn't read "few choose". Saying "are chosen" seems to rule out free will.
Good you said 'seems to rule out free will' that means you already know that free will is not ruled out.John 3:16 has the answer to that thus: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. So you do have a choice and by extension,free will.Yes salvation is open to all,however only the few who accept this offer and live by the newness of life that Christ brought will be saved at the end of time.You may wish to consider these scriptures in Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Salvation is a choice,a free will. | Posted: at 20-10-2011 02:42 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 20-10-2011 09:20 PM (12 years ago) (f) What your scripture seems to say is that those who appear before Yahweh's throne will all be his worshippers, and that he'll cast out those who didn't please him. There's nothing about those from other faiths. | Posted: at 20-10-2011 09:20 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "democrazy") democrazy at 21-10-2011 12:40 AM (12 years ago) (m) @hosbert Your mentality is "slave mentality". You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning. When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else. A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose. HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means. Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!! Reason this...........please!!! | Posted: at 21-10-2011 12:40 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "hosbert") hosbert at 21-10-2011 09:05 AM (12 years ago) (m) @hosbert
Your mentality is "slave mentality".
You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning.
When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else.
A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose.
HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means.
Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!!
Reason this...........please!!!
I think I have tolerated your impudence much enough.In every argument,there are always two oppossing sides trying to persuade eachother to accept their different positions and not insulting another for whatever reason.Now reason this out.In the world today,even as free moral agents there are code of behaviour whereby if you live by it in your given setting,you don't get into trouble with the authority and if you fail to respector abide by this code because you are free,you get punished right? I give you another scenario.Let us assume that everybody wants university education but only those who posses the requisite admission requirements make it into the university.Now even when one is offered admission,if you do not obey school rules and regulations or fail to meet up with the academic standard what happens? As christians,the scripture talks about a place of rest that God is preparing for those who believe in Jesus and worships Him (God) as their Father in John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. The scripture further said in Hebrews 3:18-19 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. The only qualification for entering into the rest of God is believe.What do you believe in? Romans 10:9-10 is very clear on that thus: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Allow the spirit of God minister to your spirit as you read and medidtate on these words and watch the transformation that would take place in your life.Believe these words because the spirit of God is ministering to you.God bless you in Jesus name,amen. | Posted: at 21-10-2011 09:05 AM (12 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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![-]( "democrazy") democrazy at 31-10-2011 12:21 AM (12 years ago) (m) @hosbert
Your mentality is "slave mentality".
You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning.
When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else.
A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose.
HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means.
Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!!
Reason this...........please!!!
I think I have tolerated your impudence much enough.In every argument,there are always two oppossing sides trying to persuade eachother to accept their different positions and not insulting another for whatever reason.Now reason this out.In the world today,even as free moral agents there are code of behaviour whereby if you live by it in your given setting,you don't get into trouble with the authority and if you fail to respector abide by this code because you are free,you get punished right? I give you another scenario.Let us assume that everybody wants university education but only those who posses the requisite admission requirements make it into the university.Now even when one is offered admission,if you do not obey school rules and regulations or fail to meet up with the academic standard what happens? As christians,the scripture talks about a place of rest that God is preparing for those who believe in Jesus and worships Him (God) as their Father in John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. The scripture further said in Hebrews 3:18-19 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. The only qualification for entering into the rest of God is believe.What do you believe in? Romans 10:9-10 is very clear on that thus: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Allow the spirit of God minister to your spirit as you read and medidtate on these words and watch the transformation that would take place in your life.Believe these words because the spirit of God is ministering to you.God bless you in Jesus name,amen. When you look again at the highlighted text, you know the muslims will never agree to this neither will any human being that has free will. How you you hinge a person's believe and salvation on some Nicean illusion? Yet to you this is you being utterly truthfully godly!!! | Posted: at 31-10-2011 12:21 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 4-11-2011 02:33 PM (12 years ago) (m) @hosbert
Your mentality is "slave mentality".
You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning.
When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else.
A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose.
HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means.
Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!!
Reason this...........please!!!
I think I have tolerated your impudence much enough.In every argument,there are always two oppossing sides trying to persuade eachother to accept their different positions and not insulting another for whatever reason.Now reason this out.In the world today,even as free moral agents there are code of behaviour whereby if you live by it in your given setting,you don't get into trouble with the authority and if you fail to respector abide by this code because you are free,you get punished right? I give you another scenario.Let us assume that everybody wants university education but only those who posses the requisite admission requirements make it into the university.Now even when one is offered admission,if you do not obey school rules and regulations or fail to meet up with the academic standard what happens? As christians,the scripture talks about a place of rest that God is preparing for those who believe in Jesus and worships Him (God) as their Father in John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. The scripture further said in Hebrews 3:18-19 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. The only qualification for entering into the rest of God is believe.What do you believe in? Romans 10:9-10 is very clear on that thus: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Allow the spirit of God minister to your spirit as you read and medidtate on these words and watch the transformation that would take place in your life.Believe these words because the spirit of God is ministering to you.God bless you in Jesus name,amen. ...Ive told you before...my brother to stop pouring water on rocks... | Posted: at 4-11-2011 02:33 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 4-11-2011 04:00 PM (12 years ago) (m) @hosbert
Your mentality is "slave mentality".
You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning.
When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else.
A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose.
HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means.
Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!!
Reason this...........please!!!
...demo...most times you entangle yourself with contraditions without knowing it... ...you...yourself also have a slave mentality... ...since you believe in a notion...a sort of reasoning...an idea...a way that made you think and believe in no other (God)... ...you argue and live it passionately...believes in its dos and donts... ...you are held in bondage of your believe...which has become your master... ...you also have a slave mentality... ...just like CamiWhite beleives in Odinism...she also posseses a slave mentality...! ...now...show me who is free... | Posted: at 4-11-2011 04:00 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 5-11-2011 03:00 PM (12 years ago) (f) I give worship to the Aesir when I choose and for my own reasons, and my faith does not tell me to judge others, do them harm, or rule their lives. | Posted: at 5-11-2011 03:00 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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@hosbert
Your mentality is "slave mentality".
You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning.
When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else.
A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose.
HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means.
Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!!
Reason this...........please!!!
...demo...most times you entangle yourself with contraditions without knowing it... ...you...yourself also have a slave mentality... ...since you believe in a notion...a sort of reasoning...an idea...a way that made you think and believe in no other (God)... ...you argue and live it passionately...believes in its dos and donts... ...you are held in bondage of your believe...which has become your master... ...you also have a slave mentality... ...just like CamiWhite beleives in Odinism...she also posseses a slave mentality...! ...now...show me who is free... @hosbert and chik001, Show me your God and i will tell you 2 whom you masters are. Evidently both of you are victim of your own fear. This is 2011, bro and bros shed off both, the chain of slavery beautify by an imaginary ghost savior.. Stop post slavery mentality. True freedom is to live in absolute love and power without fear of limitation. | Posted: at 5-11-2011 03:41 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 5-11-2011 08:12 PM (12 years ago) (m) I give worship to the Aesir when I choose and for my own reasons, and my faith does not tell me to judge others, do them harm, or rule their lives.
...what a contradiction of self and belief... ...if your faith tells you not to judge others...then do it! | Posted: at 5-11-2011 08:12 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 5-11-2011 08:31 PM (12 years ago) (m) @hosbert
Your mentality is "slave mentality".
You will never comprehend this as your mind is also closed to reasoning.
When one has freedom, they are not normally punished for their choice that infringes on no one else.
A slave has no right nor freedom to act. It does not mean the slave cannot think, eat, or perform certain actions. The bondage of the slave is that he obeys his master and does what his master says. If his master is a ruthless killer, a slave has no right to serve someone else who is good. The master will kill him as per the bondage. In human sense, this bondage can be Money paid to the seller of the slave. In biblical terms, this bondage is the fake believe that you were created for that purpose.
HOSBERT you need to shed your slave mentality and learn what freedom means.
Many are called, but few are chosen, means it is impossible for all human to go to heaven, since GOD who predicts and sees the future can not be wrong!!
Reason this...........please!!!
...demo...most times you entangle yourself with contraditions without knowing it... ...you...yourself also have a slave mentality... ...since you believe in a notion...a sort of reasoning...an idea...a way that made you think and believe in no other (God)... ...you argue and live it passionately...believes in its dos and donts... ...you are held in bondage of your believe...which has become your master... ...you also have a slave mentality... ...just like CamiWhite beleives in Odinism...she also posseses a slave mentality...! ...now...show me who is free... @hosbert and chik001, Show me your God and i will tell you 2 whom you masters are. Evidently both of you are victim of your own fear. This is 2011, bro and bros shed off both, the chain of slavery beautify by an imaginary ghost savior.. Stop post slavery mentality. True freedom is to live in absolute love and power without fear of limitation. ... on the contrary...demo aka ajepako... ...you are the one who live in fear because you operate and live on sight and time. ...we operate in faith not sight and time...and faith is a spiritual law that supersede sight and time... ...just as you cannot see your reasoning but its manisfestation so is God..the only difference is...your reasoning is limited and our God is not! ...tru Christainity has endowed us with no limitation...power and sound mind... | Posted: at 5-11-2011 08:31 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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chik001 Why been defensive?. Anyway even a little child can tell a man from a woman. I think you adult can not tell the difference between fear and love, so dream on and enjoy your fear. | Posted: at 5-11-2011 10:37 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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chik001, lets take a simple test, to see who is limited to their own fear. 1, Repeat after me, to hell with God, Jesus and every other saint. 2, phyuk devil, his angels and saints. Try that, i bet you, every little child can say that confidently what of you, if you can type them on. | Posted: at 5-11-2011 11:03 PM (12 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 6-11-2011 12:46 AM (12 years ago) (m) chik001,
lets take a simple test, to see who is limited to their own fear.
1, Repeat after me, to hell with God, Jesus and every other saint.
2, fcuk devil, his angels and saints.
Try that, i bet you, every little child can say that confidently what of you, if you can type them on.
...is this your interpretation of fear...that sounds pathetic... | Posted: at 6-11-2011 12:46 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 6-11-2011 12:56 AM (12 years ago) (m) chik001
Why been defensive?. Anyway even a little child can tell a man from a woman.
I think you adult can not tell the difference between fear and love, so dream on and enjoy your fear.
...na your way!...defensive... ...I defend what I know... ...its obvious that you dont know the difference between Love and Fear...if disrespect and intolerance of other people believe and reasoning makes you fearless...then you are less than yourself... ...ride on and enjoy your delution... | Posted: at 6-11-2011 12:56 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 6-11-2011 09:07 AM (12 years ago) (f) I give worship to the Aesir when I choose and for my own reasons, and my faith does not tell me to judge others, do them harm, or rule their lives.
...what a contradiction of self and belief... ...if your faith tells you not to judge others...then do it! I don't judge others because of my faith. I judge people by how they treat others. I find the kind of intolerance expressed in (say) the threads about the "Religion of Lesbians" as something to denounce. | Posted: at 6-11-2011 09:07 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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[quote ] [/quote] ...na your way!...defensive... ...I defend what I know... ...its obvious that you dont know the difference between Love and Fear...if disrespect and intolerance of other people believe and reasoning makes you fearless...then you are less than yourself... ...ride on and enjoy your delution... [/quote] ...is this your interpretation of fear...that sounds pathetic... When children are not free to express their feeling and mind, we say they are ill-treated. So what of adult men, whom bcus of an imaginary ghost savior, are condition to remain in absolute denial and never to question reality. To me that is a master and slave relationship. @chik001 listen!, love is an energy frequency or a feminine force that bind the universe together. The most commonest example to equate with love is your soul. I wonder if you have any, cause if you do you, you will fight against anything be God or devil that deliberately tell you that Women are cursed or he lay a cursed upon the women. Listen adult baby, women are the commonest replica of your soul. Thus your God hate your soul and your freedom. About fear, well you are a victim of your own God insecurity. If you have some adulthood in you, say the above, ''TO HELL WITH GOD, DEVIL, JESUS, MOHAMED, YAWEH, BUDAH, AND EXT. Have you seen the movie by JET LEE, Name, DANNY THE DOG?. go and see it. | Posted: at 6-11-2011 10:40 AM (12 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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