democrazy at 24-12-2011 12:46 AM (13 years ago) (m) Mr Democrazy,am still waiting for your methodical input
@Williams100
I believe the input you are waiting on is that in reference to Anton Lavey. and your questions goes are forth 1)why,all of a sudden before his death,he acknowledged god? 2)why was he pleading for god's mercy and forgiveness and further seeking for a second chance to change?.. 3)why did he further went on to say,before his death that he doesn't want to go there and that devil has deceived him?go where exactly??could it be hell?? 4)finally,was anton lavey deluded and gullible at the premise of his death too??
In all honesty, I rate this guy as a hoax and he is no better than all present day Bishops or pastors. I can not disprove those that say he actually mentioned these words or hell and God on his death bed same way I can not disprove those who say Emperor constantine asked God for forgiveness and became a born again christian on his death bed.
For discussion sake, I have not come accross any other Satanist with same experience. The supposed church of Satan attributed to Anton is a spin off from the Thelema religion created by Aleister Crowley. If you study some of Crowley's work(not that i will advise you to) it will open your eye to the close relationship between satanism and christianity or the unbreakable love between GOD and SATAN. It should be very clear to you by now that GOD's goodness is based on SATAN's evil. Else how do you measure the goodness of GOD especially with all this killing evil doers and hell fire threat? Posted: at 24-12-2011 12:46 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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@Williams100
I believe the input you are waiting on is that in reference to Anton Lavey. and your questions goes are forth 1)why,all of a sudden before his death,he acknowledged god? 2)why was he pleading for god's mercy and forgiveness and further seeking for a second chance to change?.. 3)why did he further went on to say,before his death that he doesn't want to go there and that devil has deceived him?go where exactly??could it be hell?? 4)finally,was anton lavey deluded and gullible at the premise of his death too??
In all honesty, I rate this guy as a hoax and he is no better than all present day Bishops or pastors. I can not disprove those that say he actually mentioned these words or hell and God on his death bed same way I can not disprove those who say Emperor constantine asked God for forgiveness and became a born again christian on his death bed.
For discussion sake, I have not come accross any other Satanist with same experience. The supposed church of Satan attributed to Anton is a spin off from the Thelema religion created by Aleister Crowley. If you study some of Crowley's work(not that i will advise you to) it will open your eye to the close relationship between satanism and christianity or the unbreakable love between GOD and SATAN. It should be very clear to you by now that GOD's goodness is based on SATAN's evil. Else how do you measure the goodness of GOD especially with all this killing evil doers and hell fire threat?
Alright Mr Democrazy, i welcome your comment and its taken into account.however,my last remark is this,i don't think i will be cowed into forsakeen my belief.i guess in the end i will be labelled as a "sheeple".. Nice chatting with you but,i will be following up with your thread topic.. Posted: at 2-01-2012 11:16 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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democrazy at 5-01-2012 02:42 PM (13 years ago) (m) @williams100 You are not a sheeple and my aim here is not to make you change your belief. i like freedom and advocate for it. You as a human is free to belief what ever you want as long as it does not conflict and endanger me in anyway. If i believe the bottle of guiness is my guardian angel. Then it is my believe and I should be free to do so. The moment I start killing people cos my guiness says I should, then we have gone out of bounds of relative human freedom. a sheeple is a zombie that can't reason.............you are very far from that!! Posted: at 5-01-2012 02:42 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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@williams100 You are not a sheeple and my aim here is not to make you change your belief. i like freedom and advocate for it. You as a human is free to belief what ever you want as long as it does not conflict and endanger me in anyway. If i believe the bottle of guiness is my guardian angel. Then it is my believe and I should be free to do so. The moment I start killing people cos my guiness says I should, then we have gone out of bounds of relative human freedom. a sheeple is a zombie that can't reason.............you are very far from that!!
I couldn't agree more.... Your moniker "democrazy" says it all.... Posted: at 7-01-2012 09:45 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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democrazy at 10-01-2012 03:18 PM (13 years ago) (m) @williams100 What am trying to imply with the name DEMO-CRAZY is that we are naturally democratic, and democracy as a system of government does not exists. looking at this topic! It says i can prove!!! In all honesty i can only prove to myself not to others. For others I can only use my wisdom to make information available. my people will say "I will re-initiate myself, by myself" Our tradition reminds us of one of the most important truths of them all, understanding of truth, is a solitary act. While others can help guide us along the way, in the end we face truth on our own. The solitary act of insight into the true nature of life is why we must travel the final road to realization alone. So regardless what anyone says, you are responsible for you. Why should I want to change people's beliefs? All am trying to do is awaken them and hope!! Posted: at 10-01-2012 03:18 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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@williams100 What am trying to imply with the name DEMO-CRAZY is that we are naturally democratic, and democracy as a system of government does not exists.
looking at this topic! It says i can prove!!! In all honesty i can only prove to myself not to others. For others I can only use my wisdom to make information available. my people will say "I will re-initiate myself, by myself" Our tradition reminds us of one of the most important truths of them all, understanding of truth, is a solitary act. While others can help guide us along the way, in the end we face truth on our own. The solitary act of insight into the true nature of life is why we must travel the final road to realization alone.
So regardless what anyone says, you are responsible for you. Why should I want to change people's beliefs? All am trying to do is awaken them and hope!!
Wow mr demo, You really caught my attention with this your comment.am talking about the highlighted statement in red. I was thinking,am the only one or among the just few that is aware of that fact.. As for the other remarks, SURE,i concur with you undivided.. Posted: at 10-01-2012 05:08 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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CammyWhite at 10-01-2012 09:27 PM (13 years ago) (f) I believe the input you are waiting on is that in reference to Anton Lavey. and your questions goes are forth 1)why,all of a sudden before his death,he acknowledged god? 2)why was he pleading for god's mercy and forgiveness and further seeking for a second chance to change?.. 3)why did he further went on to say,before his death that he doesn't want to go there and that devil has deceived him?go where exactly??could it be hell?? 4)finally,was anton lavey deluded and gullible at the premise of his death too?? I have read that the claim of Anton LaVey's deathbed conversion is a hoax akin to those tales about Charles Darwin and (recently) Christopher Hitchens. Posted: at 10-01-2012 09:27 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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I have read that the claim of Anton LaVey's deathbed conversion is a hoax akin to those tales about Charles Darwin and (recently) Christopher Hitchens.
Of course,something always lead to another for you cammy.. Posted: at 11-01-2012 09:04 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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CammyWhite at 11-01-2012 09:08 AM (13 years ago) (f) Hey, I'm not the one who brought that bollocks into the thread. Take it out on Democrazy! Posted: at 11-01-2012 09:08 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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Bollocks ??.. Yet you read about it and even made a comment about it  .that's very interesting you know. Posted: at 11-01-2012 01:36 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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CammyWhite at 12-01-2012 08:00 AM (13 years ago) (f) Bollocks ??.. Yet you read about it and even made a comment about it  .that's very interesting you know. Hey, if someone says something that may very well be untrue, I am almost obliged to comment! Posted: at 12-01-2012 08:00 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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Hey, if someone says something that may very well be untrue, I am almost obliged to comment!
something that may very well be untrue?? ACCORDING TO WHOM ?? Posted: at 12-01-2012 09:25 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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CammyWhite at 13-01-2012 10:25 AM (13 years ago) (f) something that may very well be untrue?? ACCORDING TO WHOM ?? Hey, it has to be proven to be true. It's not up to me to disprove it; just to point out that truth can't be assumed. Posted: at 13-01-2012 10:25 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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Hey, it has to be proven to be true. It's not up to me to disprove it; just to point out that truth can't be assumed.
I didn't know that a locomotion on the course to prove or disprove something is always a "perfecto" and not to be taken with a grain of salt.. Don't worry i have my answers already.. Posted: at 13-01-2012 10:57 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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CammyWhite at 13-01-2012 12:17 PM (13 years ago) (f) I didn't know that a locomotion on the course to prove or disprove something is always a "perfecto" and not to be taken with a grain of salt..
Don't worry i have my answers already. I have no idea what you're on about there. Posted: at 13-01-2012 12:17 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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democrazy at 15-01-2012 12:35 AM (13 years ago) (m) @CammyWhite If you'd read through......it was Williams that brought the name of Anton. So you saying he was hoax was directed at him not myself!! lol  we all good anyways!! Posted: at 15-01-2012 12:35 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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I have no idea what you're on about there.
I know you don't and that is why i said don't worry i have my answers already............. Posted: at 15-01-2012 02:14 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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CammyWhite at 16-01-2012 06:45 AM (13 years ago) (f) I know you don't and that is why i said don't worry i have my answers already............. So what are your answers? Posted: at 16-01-2012 06:45 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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So what are your answers?
That's classified! Posted: at 27-01-2012 05:01 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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