I can prove christianity is fake (Page 11)

Date: 16-09-2010 9:36 am (13 years ago) | Author: benti Adex
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- sagiru at 22-10-2010 12:35 PM (13 years ago)
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May b u do proofed dt Christianity is fake, so wt of Islam??? is it fake too?????? proofs nd references are needed.   
Posted: at 22-10-2010 12:35 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- democrazy at 22-10-2010 12:48 PM (13 years ago)
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@Sagiru,

Is the story given to mohammed regarding creation and prophet Isa different from that written in the bible? Is the difference not just the death and ressurection?

I am sure you also know that Prophet Isa played a dominant role in the Quran and also had 12 deciples same story exactly as Jesus Christ.

What If I can show you this Allegory in ancient egypt and how both islam and Christianity have made a story into a real life historival event.

Can Mohammed also be lying about receiving the quran from Allah?

Please feel free to challenge me and we will step intro astrology and worship of the sun and its 12 planets or zodiacs.
Posted: at 22-10-2010 12:48 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- omatu at 22-10-2010 03:18 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 22-10-2010 10:22 AM
How do we know what has happened before our time?

We depend on other humans' version of the story of what happened when they where alive and we weren't.

The most common and popular story, named "His Story" or in short "History" is normally that said from a winner's perspective.

Most times no one knows the history of a runner up or the losing human. Always the mainstream story is that of the winner, not the loser.

So I know the christians have killed almost all the African non believers and their story will be the mainstream.

An average 1 year old child in Africa has been to church more than 20 times. By the time he/she is 5 years old, they will

have been to church more than a hundred times. So it is no shock to me that most of the people here will be hardened christians or
Church goers.

Why not ask me why I think christianity is fake?

Will my reply not explain to you in such a way you can continously question me till your heart contents?

I will like anyone of you that is a believer of Jesus and a true son of God to challenge my statements.

I say to you again.

HOW CAN EATING AN APPLE MAKE SOMEONE KNOW GOOD FROM EVIL WHEN THEY HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANY?

I will give you my own answer.

Firstly, I want you to agree with me that there is no man here that was not born of a woman.

If you were born of God and not of a woman please voice your objection so i can correct your mis-conception.

Now, In the Ancient Africa, stemming from Egypt to the Sudan, we had a culture where we know women are the mothers and goddess of this world.

We adored our women and they blessed us with leaders to lead our civilization into a prosperous future.

All the pharoahs of Egypt where born of a woman referred to as a goddess, same way the male leader can attain a God status.

Like the elders talk folktales, so the ancient africans thought and transferred wisdom through Allegories. One of them was that of  The Goddess Ausar,  who

blessed her Pharoah and gave him a fruit to eat from the tree of knowledge so he could have wisdom to rule his people.

Christianity has changed this story to create a hatred for women, and to demonize them. Why? or do you not know what they changed the story to?

They could not accept the role of women in the African society and sought to distort the story to say,

1) Eve hate the apple and gave it to Adam(the man)
2) It is because of eating this apple they gained knowledge and where kicked out of eden(away from God)
3) Also that this is why a woman has her monthly period. To remind her that she created the first sin in the world.
4) The first sin is what dooms us all.

Now please my judges, how will you feel when you know there is no basis to the christian story. Also they have used this to kill thousands of people
they dimmed original sinners of the sins of Adam and Eve.

I know this is killing us, it is a very racist agenda and one that has torn man from woman. One that has destroyed that African Spirit.

If you want proof of what am saying, then go to Kemet in Egypt and see the ancient writings on the wall. It is a much realistic proof than the fake printed
and revised book you hold in your hands called the bible...............................

The man Adam received punishment as well.  Adam actually received more punishment than Eve.  You are free to believe whatever you want.
Posted: at 22-10-2010 03:18 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- omatu at 22-10-2010 03:22 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 22-10-2010 10:49 AM
For those who still cant make sense of what am saying i will like you to ask your reasonable self these two questions
1) WHY IS GOD SO MAD ADAM AND EVE KNOW GOOD FROM EVIL?

2) WHY DID GOD CREATE ADAM FIRST KNOWING ONLY A FEMALE CAN REPRODUCE?

God is God and wants what is best for His creation

God the creator decides whom to create first regardless of your human logic.  He certainly did not create and Adam and Steve.  He is God.

Posted: at 22-10-2010 03:22 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mrsknowall at 22-10-2010 10:22 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: omatu on 21-10-2010 08:01 PM
Quote from: mrsknowall on 21-10-2010 07:40 PM
i think no need to seek for god, no need to ask him. Instead we should ask ourselves. What is in my heart? What am i giving to the world, to other people? We only should understand that god and church is not the same, faith and religion are different thing. He who is seeking for god will find him in his heart and love. Isn't that the idea Jesus was teaching? God is in all of us, we are parts of him. Our visible image covers the invisible, super, heaven part of us.
I respect the way you think and the relationship you state and the views you have of God.  You believe that you can do all things without God. 

I am of a different believe.  I need God.  I need to have a relationship with Him.  I need to talk to Him on a regular basis.  I need to remain in His presence daily.  I can do all things through God who strengthens me.  The God I worship knows all things.  He is the one that created me.  He knows what happen to me tomorrow.  Since I do not know tomorrow, I usually ask him to reveal my day to me before it happens.  He reveals them to me and guides me on the paths that I should take.  I really like this relationship that I have with Him.  God could direct me through dreams, visions, etc.  What is in my heart is God.  What I can do for you is show you how to develop a relationship with God.

If you are hungry, I will feed you.  If  you are cold, I will let you in to my home to come a get warm.  I will give  you warm clothes.  If you need money, I will share mine with you.  None of these actions will profit you more than the profit that you will have if work really hard to own God in your life and in everything that you do.

When I call God, He answers me.  It is an individual relationship.  I cannot do this for you.  No pastor can do this for you.  Nobody can do this for you.  It is an individual search.  It is up to you to decide what you want.

Your decision is respected by me.  I am happy being a disciple of God.   I am His student and He is my Teacher.

God is in those that invite Him into their hearts.


Oh darling but we are after the same things. I also live with god, i feel him like my best friend, my mother and father, and husband and son and everything for me. This is the relationship we should have with god. It means he is in your heart, and this is the best place for him. This is what he wants from us. When it is so, we are honest, kind and moral. We can never do evil things to other people. God is our consciousness. I am only separate my kind of god who is also yours and his christian creation. I am sure they faked people for their benefits, they just used people's minds for pumping money out of them. Christianity is the worst of all world religions. I only separate these things. My god is my god, he is not the one church men teach us. Though i admit that among them there were also good people but they believed their doctrine. Those who have god in their heart do not need church and rulers and leaders as only god their teacher is. The Christian leaders beginning with jesus's apostles wrenched his words, they added things he had never told. How to know them? By god's word, about the fruit and the tree. I respect your point of veiw, too darling.

Posted: at 22-10-2010 10:22 PM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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- wandepope at 23-10-2010 12:30 PM (13 years ago)
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no matter what you say it doesnt change the faith of whoever has read the post,CHRISTIANS ON NAIJAPALS WONT STOP TO BE CHRISTIANS.
Posted: at 23-10-2010 12:30 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- democrazy at 23-10-2010 04:10 PM (13 years ago)
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@wandepope............we all need to progress in life so that our young ones are not left behind and possibly eliminated as unproductive.

I do not belief in racism as it is a very low energy negative force that hinders progress and life on this planet. BUT I assure you to think and rethink....

1) The Imperialist expansion time of the caucasian race.

It is not all the white caucasians that participated in this assault on the indian, aborigines and black africa. I can not identify them to you without speaking a lot of history but they used the white caucasians to rip havoc on these peoples. The portugese, the dutch, the germans, the english, the french, the russians, all have blood on their hands. Same with the jews or isrealites that have successfully whipped out 90% of the palestinians. All the peoples i mentioned performed their attrocities using christianity. The history of christianity is not different from that which i just said regarding present day, up to Afganistan and Iraq in Oct 2010.

Is this right? Should a stop be put to it? How?
the people that orchestrated these assaults, do you think they loved the black people?
Why then will they give you a true christian GOD?
Posted: at 23-10-2010 04:10 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- kingahmjoks at 23-10-2010 05:46 PM (13 years ago)
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This guy you must be a self thinker,if you can not contribute positively to the live of people why stop confusing those that begin believe in existence of One(God),The One and Lonely,The master of the whole universe.Be warned if u cannot beat,join them..in order to perish as an unbeliever.
Posted: at 23-10-2010 05:46 PM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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- democrazy at 23-10-2010 06:32 PM (13 years ago)
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@kingahmjoks, how do you measure a positive contribution?

You dont need to show me how difficult my task seems. i know this already.

the African is becoming a collector item as soon to be erradicated. You go anywherein the world. You will see the chinese settle with their own culture, religion and medicine. Same for the hindus, and Arabs. have you ever seen an Islamic man from Saudi Arabia go to the USA and go worship in a church?
Have you ever seen an Hindu go to England and go worship in a church or Mosque? They always build their own identity and culture. The chinese builds his local herbal clinics and buddist temples. Howe about the African? Why dont you think about the answer while i get something to eat.
Posted: at 23-10-2010 06:32 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- omatu at 24-10-2010 05:46 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 23-10-2010 04:10 PM
@wandepope............we all need to progress in life so that our young ones are not left behind and possibly eliminated as unproductive.

I do not belief in racism as it is a very low energy negative force that hinders progress and life on this planet. BUT I assure you to think and rethink....

1) The Imperialist expansion time of the caucasian race.

It is not all the white caucasians that participated in this assault on the indian, aborigines and black africa. I can not identify them to you without speaking a lot of history but they used the white caucasians to rip havoc on these peoples. The portugese, the dutch, the germans, the english, the french, the russians, all have blood on their hands. Same with the jews or isrealites that have successfully whipped out 90% of the palestinians. All the peoples i mentioned performed their attrocities using christianity. The history of christianity is not different from that which i just said regarding present day, up to Afganistan and Iraq in Oct 2010.

Is this right? Should a stop be put to it? How?
the people that orchestrated these assaults, do you think they loved the black people?
Why then will they give you a true christian GOD?

You cannot because of murderers, etc., condemn christianity.  If you sincerely believe that all civilization began in Africa and that the story of Jesus Christ actually originated from Africa, but was later changed and corrupted by Europeans, etc., why are you not happy that black Africans continue to embrace that religion that started from Ancient Egypt?  They may not be worshiping that same God as you desire, but they continue to worship the same God that you are advocating that started in Egypt.  Am I correct in understanding the philosophy to which you have been promoting?
Posted: at 24-10-2010 05:46 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- democrazy at 24-10-2010 11:00 AM (13 years ago)
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@Omatu, i am not selling you an alternative religion. Neither am i making senseless accusations against christianity. if any statement I have made is incorrect, please point it out to me.

What you are misunderstanding is that there was no jesus Christ or Christianity in ancient Africa. Even the story of creating a man and woman where all Allegories. Allegories are intentionally chosen as a means for communicating knowledge. Allegories dramatize cosmic laws, principles, processes, relationships and functions, and express them in a way easy to understand. Once the inner meanings of the allegories have been revealed, they become marvels of simultaneous scientific and philosophical completeness and conciseness. The more they are studied, the richer they become. The ‘inner dimension’ of the teachings embedded into each story make them capable of revealing several layers of knowledge, according to the stage of development of the listener. The “secrets” are revealed as one evolves higher. The higher we get, the more we see. It is always there.

BUT

The real experience and education of life was lost when the christians made this story into a past historical occurence. Like now, as an acient African i know there is no humanoid God as described in the bible. If you want let us argue the creation of MAN.

Look at the internal Organs of human beings.
Look at the moulding of a humanoid shape in clay.
Is it possible to create a shape from moulding clay of an image of God that somehow manifest as us. Does that not make God human looking or where did they create the human shape from.
Now tell me that breathing the breath of life into this clay structure created your liver, intestines, heart, spinal cord, etc.............

It is okay to tell an uneducated mind 400 years ago that the moving light in the sky is a moving star. You may get away with it. Today, people will question you and ask if it was a plane or a type of aircraft.
Posted: at 24-10-2010 11:00 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- omatu at 25-10-2010 01:12 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 24-10-2010 11:00 AM
@Omatu, i am not selling you an alternative religion. Neither am i making senseless accusations against christianity. if any statement I have made is incorrect, please point it out to me.

What you are misunderstanding is that there was no jesus Christ or Christianity in ancient Africa. Even the story of creating a man and woman where all Allegories. Allegories are intentionally chosen as a means for communicating knowledge. Allegories dramatize cosmic laws, principles, processes, relationships and functions, and express them in a way easy to understand. Once the inner meanings of the allegories have been revealed, they become marvels of simultaneous scientific and philosophical completeness and conciseness. The more they are studied, the richer they become. The ‘inner dimension’ of the teachings embedded into each story make them capable of revealing several layers of knowledge, according to the stage of development of the listener. The “secrets” are revealed as one evolves higher. The higher we get, the more we see. It is always there.

BUT

The real experience and education of life was lost when the christians made this story into a past historical occurence. Like now, as an acient African i know there is no humanoid God as described in the bible. If you want let us argue the creation of MAN.

Look at the internal Organs of human beings.
Look at the moulding of a humanoid shape in clay.
Is it possible to create a shape from moulding clay of an image of God that somehow manifest as us. Does that not make God human looking or where did they create the human shape from.
Now tell me that breathing the breath of life into this clay structure created your liver, intestines, heart, spinal cord, etc.............

It is okay to tell an uneducated mind 400 years ago that the moving light in the sky is a moving star. You may get away with it. Today, people will question you and ask if it was a plane or a type of aircraft.


I believe that God formed man with clay and breathed into man.  You are free to believe what you want, question what you want.  I am happy spending more time to learn about God.
Posted: at 25-10-2010 01:12 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ogpatric at 25-10-2010 09:57 AM (13 years ago)
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@ Democrazy

what prompted you to come here and blab all this insolence....? if God doesn't exist and prayer is imaginary, please keep it to yourself .you must come here to invade this forum with your belief system of life concerning 'what is' and what isn't...if the non-existence if God has helped thrive in life and boasted the society where you reside, enjoy it while it lasts, i personally do not need it. your name democrasy shows or rather means the liberty the choose any belief system one may want to pursue, please let's practice that same meaning attached to your name....i have been reading your line here and i was forced to alert you to leave this forum or i'll call the attention of the admin to ban you from using this site........be warned....i need not to prove this existence of God to you perverted soul....for you know that the cosmos doesn't just emanate....some put it up and has sustained it till dat....kisses and hugs
Posted: at 25-10-2010 09:57 AM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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- abadu at 25-10-2010 01:50 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: mrsknowall on 21-10-2010 07:40 PM
i think no need to seek for god, no need to ask him. Instead we should ask ourselves. What is in my heart? What am i giving to the world, to other people? We only should understand that god and church is not the same, faith and religion are different thing. He who is seeking for god will find him in his heart and love. Isn't that the idea Jesus was teaching? God is in all of us, we are parts of him. Our visible image covers the invisible, super, heaven part of us.





 yae madam , because you are now god abi, For me and my Household, we believe in God Almighty and Jesus christ his son as our messiah, But for you and your household, you are wiser and stronger than God, well preach louder about your bizare belief may god help you
Posted: at 25-10-2010 01:50 PM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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- agabs at 25-10-2010 03:20 PM (13 years ago)
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Ha hah ahahahhhhhhhhh
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- democrazy at 25-10-2010 03:47 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ogpatric on 25-10-2010 09:57 AM
@ Democrazy

what prompted you to come here and blab all this insolence....? if God doesn't exist and prayer is imaginary, please keep it to yourself .you must come here to invade this forum with your belief system of life concerning 'what is' and what isn't...if the non-existence if God has helped thrive in life and boasted the society where you reside, enjoy it while it lasts, i personally do not need it. your name democrasy shows or rather means the liberty the choose any belief system one may want to pursue, please let's practice that same meaning attached to your name....i have been reading your line here and i was forced to alert you to leave this forum or i'll call the attention of the admin to ban you from using this site........be warned....i need not to prove this existence of God to you perverted soul....for you know that the cosmos doesn't just emanate....some put it up and has sustained it till dat....kisses and hugs

Your threat means zilche nadder nothing piakai!!! If you are at this age uneducated, I have sought to offer you some of my knowledge. It is up to you to learn or ignore it. This is a forum, same way I have the freedom to make statements, you have the right of listeningship(Thanks Agabs for this new word) and can wonder off to where such statements are not spoken. Instead of you pronouncing your ignorance in this topic as you so blatantly show. If democracy is all that, why the wars to force people to accept it? Is USA or England democratic in their dealings with other not so rich nations? You make me laugh!!! Better check yourself before you wreck yourself. If you are a good christian and God loving human you claim. Why dont you have faith, and call on your church members to pray for HIV to be erradicated in africa by the end of the week. Or is their none of yous with that much faith for God to answer such good unselfish prayer?
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- agabs at 25-10-2010 04:21 PM (13 years ago)
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Hmn! Wow! Ha ha hahah ahhaha.
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- omatu at 25-10-2010 08:43 PM (13 years ago)
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@democrazy - in a brief sentence, what do you believe?

Do you believe there is God?
Posted: at 25-10-2010 08:43 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- democrazy at 25-10-2010 09:12 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: omatu on 25-10-2010 08:43 PM
@democrazy - in a brief sentence, what do you believe?

Do you believe there is God?

I believe Christianity is fake, a false religion to brainwash the people like keeping them high on delisional drug.

I believe there is no God as deemed by the bible or christians.

Now Omatu, are you willing to proof your God to me by praying for the erradication of HIV from Africa?
Posted: at 25-10-2010 09:12 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- kenyawest at 25-10-2010 09:42 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: democrazy on 25-10-2010 09:12 PM
Quote from: omatu on 25-10-2010 08:43 PM
@democrazy - in a brief sentence, what do you believe?

Do you believe there is God?

I believe Christianity is fake, a false religion to brainwash the people like keeping them high on delisional drug.

I believe there is no God as deemed by the bible or christians.

Now Omatu, are you willing to proof your God to me by praying for the erradication of HIV from Africa?

What type of God do you believe in?
Posted: at 25-10-2010 09:42 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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