Things you should know about Religion and must have one

Date: 28-09-2010 12:49 pm (13 years ago) | Author: Abdulrahman Abdulnasir
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 I have seen So many Comments in this forum and to my surprise, i find out that still there are some people that did not believe in religion. These people are Brain washed by some selfish and non understandable people.  Am a Muslim and I have proof of God Existence as I should tell you letter. This is lunch not against Christians, but to those that think there is no religion at all. Christians can also give there Proof of the existence of God to help Eliminate this Negative thinking that was installed in there mind..


                        PROOFS OF GOD'S EXISTENCE FROM THE QUR'ÂN THE LIVING MIRACLE 

Say: "To whom belong all that is in the heavens and earth?" Say: "To Allah". He has prescribed for Himself mercy. He will gather you all for the day of judgment in which there is no doubt. The ones who have lost themselves are the ones who will not believe" [Qur'ân, 6:12; Al-An'am, "The Livestock"]

The proofs of God's existence are all around us. Yet some still believe that all the wonders that surround us, from the infinite intricacy of life to the infinite wisdom with which the stars and planets float in the endless space, are but a coincidence or a product of a blind nature. To believe in that is like believing that a great painter drew a beautiful portrait by splashing buckets of paint on a dry cloth, or that a great writer wrote a masterpiece by throwing printing press letters into the air and watching them arrange themselves into words and sentences.

Because Islam is the religion chosen by God (Allah) until the end of time, and since Mohammad (peace be upon him [pbuh]) is the last of the prophets, the greatest miracles of Islam have to be of a lasting nature. Unlike the splitting of the sea by Moses (pbuh), which was witnessed only by those who were present during the event, the miracles of the Qur'an can be witnessed over and over by all generations. In other words, the greatest miracles of Islam lie within the Qur'an and can be witnessed by anyone simply by reading the words of God. When the Qur'an was inspired to Mohammad (pbuh), it carried the message that in the eyes of God, there is no difference between an Arab and a non-Arab or a black person and a white person except by his or her fear of Allah and the righteous deeds he or she does. The pagans of Quraish (the tribe living in Makkah at the time of the prophet Mohammad (pbuh) ) chose not to believe that the Qur'ân was from Allah and said that Mohammad had forged it.

They were first challenged to write a book similar to the Qur'an; they could not. Say: "verily if the whole of mankind and the jinns should assemble together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they would not produce the like thereof, Even if they backed up each other with help and support." [Qur'an, 17:88;Al-Isra', "Al-Isra"]

Next the challenge was eased to the writing of ten suras (chapters) like the suras of the Qur'an, but they were not able to do it. Or they say: "He [Prophet Mohammad] has forged it [the Qur'an]". Say: "bring you then ten forged suras like it, and call unto whomsoever you can [to help you], other than Allah, if you are truthful". So if they answer you not, then know that it [the Qur'an] was only sent down with the knowledge of  Allah and that there is no god but Him. So will you be Muslims? [Qur'an, Sura II: 13-14 Hud, "Hud"]

Finally, they were challenged to write just one Surah (chapter) that would pass for a Surah of Allah's words and still they could not. And if you are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down on Our worshiper [Mohammad, peace be upon him], then produce a Surah [chapter] of the like thereof and call your witnesses [supporters and helpers] besides Allah if you are truthful. So if you do it not, and you can never do it,then fear the fire [hell] whose fuel is people and stones that was prepared for the pagans. [Qur'an, 2:23-24; Al-Baqarah, "The Cow"]

And this Qur'an is not such as could ever be invented by other than Allah, but it's agreement [and confirmation] with that which was before it [the Taurat and the Gospel] and the full explanation of the Book without doubt therein is from the Lord of all that exists. Or do they say "he [Muhammad] has forged it". Say: "bring then a surah [chapter] like it, and call upon whosoever you can [to help you], besides Allah, if you are truthful."[Qur'an, 10:37-38; Yunus, "Jonah"]

The extent of this challenge can be appreciated when one realizes that the shortest chapter in the Qur'an (108; Al-kawthar) is only three verses long! What are the rules of this challenge? The answer is simple; the pagans of Quraish who were experts in the art of the word were challenged to write something of the same literary merit as the Qur'an, but they were not able to do it. Yet the challenge was not to write something that would equal the Qur'an only in its literary merit, the challenge was to produce a book that would be an equal to the Qur'an in all aspects. To answer the question of the nature of these other aspects, we must first answer another question: 'what is the most important attribute that a book truly sent by Allah has to have?' We are given the answer to this question in the Qur'an: Do they not then ponder on the Qur'an? And had it been from other than Allah, then surely they would have found therein much discrepancies. [Qur'ân, Surah 4:82 Al-Nisa', "The Women"]

The word 'discrepancies' found at the end of this verse is a loose translation of the Arabic word 'ikhtilaf', which literally means 'difference'. If the difference is within the book itself, then it is called a discrepancy (something that contradicts something else within the same book). If the difference is between the book and the outside world as it truly is, not necessarily as our limited knowledge in a certain era tells us it is, then, this difference is called an error. Thus the challenge for us is to bring forth a book that contains truths of a scientific nature not known to us today, a book that one can read 1500 years from today and, discover that indeed it was telling the truth. A book in which not a single word would be proven to be wrong, ever. Despite all that, the pagans of Quraish still insisted that the illiterate Mohammad (pbuh) who was never a writer or a scholar had forged the Qur'an. They accused Mohammad (pbuh) of being a poet, a madman and a soothsayer. Yet could a madman or a poet produce what all of humanity was challenged to replicate and was not able to? Could a soothsayer utter truths of a scientific nature that would only be discovered hundreds of years after his death? Indeed not, and the Qur'an gives an answer to there allegations innumerous verses.

So I swear by whatsoever you see. And by whatsoever you see not. Verily this is the word of an honored messenger. And it is not the word of a poet, little is it that you believe. Nor is it the word of a soothsayer, little is it that you remember. A revelation from the Lord of the Alameen [mankind, Jinns and all that exists]. And if he [Mohammad] had invented some false saying concerning Us [Allah]. We surely would have seized him by his right hand [or with power and might]. And then certainly We would have cut off his life artery. And none of you could have withheld from him [Allah's wrath].

And verily it [the Qur'an] is a reminder for the Muttaqin [the pious and those whose fear Allah]. And verily We know that there are among those who fear Allah. And verily We know that there are among you some that belie [this Qur'an]. And verily it [the Qur'an] is an anguish for the disbelievers. And verily it is a truth of assured certainty. So glorify the name of your Lord the Most Great. [Qur'an, Sura 69:38-52; Al-Haqqah, "The Sure Reality"]

And you [Mohammad] did not recite before it [the Qur'an] any book, nor did you write it [any book] with your right hand. For then, indeed the followers of falsehood would have doubted. But it is clear revelations in the chests of those who were given knowledge. And none deny our Ayat [proofs, evidences, signs, revelations, etc.] except the unjust. And they said: "if only signs were sent down on him from his Lord." Say: "Indeed the signs are only with Allah and I am but a clear warner." Was it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book [the Qur'an] which is recited to them. Verily, herein is mercy and a reminder for people who believe. Say: "Sufficient is Allah for a witness between me and you. He knows what is in the heavens and earth. And those who have believed in the Batil [all false deities other than Allah] and disbelieved in Allah, those are the losers." [Qur'an, 29:48-52; Al-Ankaboot "The Spider"]

And never did We destroy a township, but it had its warners. By way of reminder, and We have never been unjust. And it is not the Shayatin [devils] who have brought it [this Qur'an] down. Neither would it suit them, nor they can [produce it]. Verily, they have been removed far from hearing it. So invoke not with Allah another god lest you be among those who will be punished. [Qur'an, 26:208-213; Al-Shua'ra', "The Poets"]

Maurice Bucaille wrote in a book titled The Bible, the Qur'an and Science (1978) "The above observation makes the hypothesis advanced by those who see Muhammad as the author of the Qur'an untenable. How could a man, from being illiterate, become the most important author, in terms of literary merits,in the whole of Arabic literature? How could he then pronounce truths of a scientific nature that no other human being could possibly have developed at that time, and all this without once making the slightest error in his pronouncement on the subject?" (p. 125). 

Some Proofs from Biology 
(1) 1400 years before the invention of the modern microscopes and the science of embryology, Allah gave us in the Qur'an the precise stages through which the human embryo goes in the course of its development: And indeed We created man [Adam] out of an extract of clay. Thereafter We made him as a Nutfah [mixed drops of the male and female segxwal discharge] [and lodged it] in a safe lodging [woman's womb]. Then We made the Nutfah into a leech [or leech-like structure] then We made the leech into a chewed lump, then We made out of the chewed lump bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators. [Qur'an, 23:12-14; Al-Mu'minun, "The Believers"]

Dr. Keith L. Moore (Ph.D., F.I.A.C). The Department of Anatomy, University of Toronto, Canada) commented on these verses in a paper titled "A Scientist's Interpretation of References to Embryology in the Qur'ân" (The Journal of the Islamic Medical Association, Vol. 18, Jan-Jun 1986, pp. 15-16): "The zygote forms by the union of a mixture of the sperm and the ovum ("The mixed drop!"). The word "alaqah" refers to a leech or bloodsucker. This is an appropriate description of the human embryo from days 7-24 when it clings to the endometrium of the uterus, in the same way that a leech clings to the skin. Just as the leech derives blood from the host, the human embryo derives blood from the decidua or pregnant endometrium. It is remarkable how much the embryo of 23-24 days resembles a leech. As there were no microscopes or lenses available in the 7th century, doctors would not have known that the human embryo had this leech-like appearance. In the early part of the fourth week, the embryo is just visible to the unaided eye because it is smaller than a kernel of wheat. The Arabic word "mudghah" means "chewed substance or chewed lump." Toward the end of the fourth week, the human embryo looks somewhat like a chewed lump of flesh. The chewed appearance results from the somites which resemble teeth marks. The somites represent the beginnings or primordia of the vertebrae... Out of the chewed lump stage, bones and muscles form. This is in accordance with embryological development. First the bones form as cartilage models and then the muscles (flesh) develop around them from the somatic mesoderm."

(2) Allah also states in the Qur'an the correct order in which the senses of hearing, seeing and understanding develop: And He gave you hearing and sight and feeling and understanding. [Qur'an, 32:9; Al-Sajdah, "The Prostration"]

Dr. Keith L. Moore comments on these verses in the same paper mentioned above saying: "The primordia of the internal ears appear before the beginning of the eyes, and the brain (the site of understanding) differentiates last."

(3) We know that life cannot exist without water. That is why when scientists search for life anywhere, even on other planets such as Mars, the first thing they look for is evidence of the existence of water. Allah stated the fact that all living things are made of water in the Qur'an. And Allah has created every moving [living] creature from water. From them is that which goes on its belly, and from them is that which walks on two feet, and from them is that which walks on four. Allah creates what He wills. Verily Allah is able to do all things. [Qur'an, 24:45; Al-Nour, "The Light"]

(4) It is now known that mammary glands secrete milk. The mammary glands are  nourished by the products of food digestion in the intestines brought to them by the bloodstream. The fact that it is the blood that transfers nutrients from the intestines to the rest of the body was discovered only recently. The mere fact that blood circulates within the body was discovered about many centuries after the revelation of the Qur'an. And verily in cattle there is a lesson for you. We give you to drink of what is within their bellies, from between excretions [the contents of the intestine] and blood, pure milk; palatable to the drinkers. [Qur'an, 16:66;Al-Nahl, "The Bees"]   

Some Proofs from History   
(1) There is a city that was mentioned in the Qur'an by the name of Iram. Up until 1975, this city was thought by many non-Muslims to be a mere myth since no mention of it was ever made in any known writings. In 1975 another city by the name of Ibla was unearthed in Syria. In some of the tablets found in the city of Ibla, the name of the city of Iram was mentioned for the first time as a place that used to trade with the city of Ibla. Subsequently, using space photography from the space shuttle, the city of Iram was found in the vicinity of Aden. Then behold! The appearance of this city was exactly as it was described in the Qur'an as a city built with towering pillars: Did you [O Mohammad] not see how your Lord dealt with [the tribe of] Aad ? [the city of] Iram with lofty pillars. The like of which was not created in the lands. Qur'an, 89:6-8; Al-Fajr "The Dawn"]

(2) Since the 18th Egyptian dynasty, all of the ancient rulers of Egypt called themselves Pharaohs. The name initially meant the "great house" which is what the ancient Egyptians called the house of their ruler. Beginning with the 18th dynasty, the name was used to designate the king himself. In the early 17th century BC, Egypt was invaded by the Hyksos, who occupied Egypt until prince Ahmos the first finally freed the country from their grasp in 1570 BC. After Egypt was free, the Egyptians systematically destroyed and altered all the monuments built by the Hyksos. That is why the only remnants of the Hyksos invaders is poorly preserved in scarce inscriptions, sculpture and pottery. A somewhat incomplete knowledge of the Hyksos has only become available recently after extensive research. One of the things we came to learn about the Hyksos from this research was that they did not call themselves Pharaohs, but they called themselves kings. In all of the stories in the Qur'an related to Egypt, when God speaks of the ruler of Egypt, He always calls him 'Pharaoh', except in a single story; the story of Prophet Joseph (pbuh), where He calls him 'the king'. Modern history scholars believe that this is because the ruler of Egypt at the time of Prophet Joseph (pbuh) was Apophis a Hyksos king. And the king said: "bring him to me that I may attach him to my person." Then, when he spoke to him he said: "Verily, you are today with us with rank fully established and trustworthy." [Qur'an, 12:54; Youssef, "Joseph"]

(3) Allah says in the Qur'an: And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in oppression and enmity, till when drowning overtook him [Pharaoh], he said: "I believe that there is no god but He in whom the Children of Israel have believed, and I am from the Muslims." Now [you believe] while you have rebelled before and been among the evil-doers. So today We save you in your [dead] body, that you may be a sign to those who come after you. And verily, many among mankind are indeed heedless of Our Ayah [proofs, evidence, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, ...etc.). [Qur'an, 10:90-92; Yunus, "Jonah"] Thus Allah says that the body of Pharaoh was not taken by the sea so that Pharaoh may become a sign to those who come after him. Dr. Bucaille conducted research to verify this Qur'ânic story: "in June 1975, the Egyptian high authorities very kindly allowed me to examine the parts of the Pharaoh's body that had been covered until then. They also allowed me to take photographs. What may already be derived from this examination is the discovery of multiple lesions of the bones with broad lacunae, some of which may have been mortal although it is not yet possible to ascertain whether some of them occurred before or after the Pharaoh's death. He most probably died either from drowning, according to the scriptural narrations, or from very violent shocks preceding the moment when he was drowned or both at once. Those who seek among modern data for proof of the veracity of the Holy Scriptures will find a magnificent illustration of the verses of the Qur'an dealing with Pharaoh's body by visiting the Royal Mummies room of the Egyptian Museum, Cairo!" [The Bible, The Qur'an and Science (1978)]

Some Proofs from Astronomy 
Let us first have a short introduction about the formation and nature of the stars and planets based upon our modern knowledge and understanding. It is a well known fact that all the stars within any given galaxy as well as their planets are formed from an initial cloud of gas. When that cloud condenses due to gravitational forces it starts to rotate causing hydrogen and helium atoms; its lighter constituents, to be present in higher proportions towards the center of the cloud, thus forming the star. The heavier constituents on the other hand form planets at larger radii due to the centrifugal effect. The star is luminescent because of the nuclear reactions therein while the planets can only be luminescent if they reflect the star's light that is incident on their surface. Each planet in a given solar system floats in space in a prescribed orbit. Furthermore, the star of the solar system itself floats in an orbit around the center of its galaxy. It is truly amazing that the Qur'an actually gives a clear mention to some of these facts.   

(1) Concerning the facts that the heavens (galaxies and stars) and earth were both initially made of the same mixture of materials, then part of that material was put into the earth, and the fact that the sun and moon each float in space in a prescribed orbit, Allah says in surat Al-Anbiya': Did those who disbelieve not see that the heavens and earth were joined together as one piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water everything that is alive. Will they not then believe? And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them and We have placed therein broad roads [for them to pass through], that they may be guided. And We have made the sky as a roof, well protected. Yet they turn away from its signs. And it is He who has created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit they float. [Qur'an, 21:30-33, Al-Anbiya', "The Prophets"]

(2) Concerning the initial formation of the universe and all its galaxies and solar systems, God refers in the Qur'an to the fact that the heavens and earth were brought forth from an initial cloud of gas referred to as smoke which is an accurate description of the appearance of this semi-transparent cloud made of molecules suspended in space. Allah says in the Qur'an: Then He Istawa [rose over in a way only known to Allah] towards the heaven while it was smoke, then He said to it and the earth: "come forth both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come, in willing obedience." [Qur'an, 41:1 1; Fussilat, "Explained in Detail"]

(3) While the sun is the source of light for its solar system, the moon and the planets do no more than reflect that light. When Allah speaks in the Quran about the light of the sun, He refers to the sun as a lantern, or a shining source of light. On the other hand, when He speaks of the moon, He speaks of it only as 'lighted' which means that it takes its light from an external source. It is He who made the sun shining and the moon lighted and measured out its stages, that you may know the number of years and the count [of time]. Allah did not create this except in truth. He explains the Ayah [proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, miracles, etc.] in detail for people who have knowledge. [Qur'an, 10:5; Yunus, "Jonath"]

In surat Al-Naml, Allah gives a clear description of the movement of the earth: And you see the mountains, you think them solid [and stationary], when they pass as the passing of the clouds, The making of Allah, Who has perfected everything. Verily, He is well-acquainted with what you do. [Qur'an, 27:88; Al-Naml, "The Ants"]

This verse is truly amazing! It gives a vivid description of the constant movement of the earth. Let us dwell a little on what this verse has to say. First it says that the mountains that we think of as being stationary are actually passing. Then it gives the analogy of the passing of the clouds. One might ask; in which way the passing of the mountains is similar to the passing of the clouds? The answer is: like the clouds pass because of the movement of the medium in which they are (the air), the mountains also pass because of the movement of the earth on which they are placed. Furthermore, notice the accuracy of using the word 'pass' which implies movement in a constant direction as opposed to the word 'move' which can imply changing or random movement to accurately describe the scene one would behold if he or she was to rise high above the earth and observe, while being stationary, the mountains below.

(5) Allah also gave reference to the circular motion associated with the night and day in the Qur'an: He has created the heavens and the earth with truth. He coils the night on the day and He coils the day on the night. And He has subjected the sun and the moon. Each follows a course for an appointed term. Verily, He is the All-Mighty, the Oft-Forgiving. [Qur'an, 39:5; Al- Zumar, "The Groups"]   

(6) Only recently, was it discovered that the universe is in a constant state of expansion. This was observed indirectly through the Doppler effect which states that the light spectrum emitted by an object moving away from an observer would shift towards a higher wavelength. This fact was clearly stated in the Qur'an: And the heaven, We have built it with power and verily We are expanding it, [Qur'an, 51:47; Al-Zariat, "The Winds"]

This is the Book [the Qur'an] whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who fear Allah. Who believe in the unseen, and establish the prayer, and from what We have provided for them they spend. And who believe in what has been sent down to you and what has been sent down before you and of the hereafter they are certain. These are on guidance from their Lord, and those are the successful. [Qur'an, 2:2-5; Al-Baqarah, "The Cow"]

Posted: at 28-09-2010 12:49 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
- FaithBMinistry at 28-09-2010 06:10 PM (13 years ago)
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A persons who are professing God should not have a title like this. Christians should not go beyond the biblical to prove that God exist. The book of Genesis let us know that indeed there is a God. The devil is the one uses persons to deceive the minds of God's creation, he did it in the Garden of Eden and still continue today. In the garden he did it has a serpent, today he uses the internet, radio, books etc via the same persons who used to called upon Jehovah to do his work.

Christians need to be valiant for the truth. Those valiant fighters in the bible were fighting for the TRUTH and not for lands. Just has how the Children of Israel became disobedient and stop mid way through;  it is the same way Christians are doing now a days. Hugs and blessings
Posted: at 28-09-2010 06:10 PM (13 years ago) | Newbie
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- chik001 at 29-09-2010 11:16 AM (13 years ago)
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I dont think they are senseless or in need of medical checkup, rather I think they have god complex.
They want to see themselves as God and all wise. They crave for attention, They are anti-authority.
But deep within themselves, they are crying out to be saved from themselves.

Posted: at 29-09-2010 11:16 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- Harunshehu at 5-10-2010 03:53 PM (13 years ago)
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MY PEOPLE MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL, THEY COME HERE AND POST NONSENSE. IF ONLY THEY KNEW THAT
WITHOUT RELIGION OR KNOWING GOD MAN IS NOTHING.


Posted: at 5-10-2010 03:53 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- abduuul at 6-10-2010 11:35 AM (13 years ago)
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First of all You are Welcome for taking me on in this Regard.
 At this time,  I learn that you are an atheist and once again you welcome in this Very Important Topic. 

My first question to the atheist will be: "What is the definition of God?" For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognize or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God. His concept of God would be derived from the surroundings in which he lives. The god that a large number of people worship has got human qualities - therefore he does not believe in such a god.
Well i will begin by asking you whether you are a scientist or Not? Thank God that I am Scientist that i can proof you the Existence of Allah(God) Scientifically. Asking me What i know about Islam is not Necessary Since you are an atheist. I will suggest that you leave that to the believers.
 Here is Some Mathematical Proofs of God Existence. You should not put that your selfish interest in it and judge it with open mind.

THEORY OF PROBABILITY


In mathematics there is a theory known as ‘Theory of Probability’. If you have two options, out of which one is right, and one is wrong, the chances that you will chose the right one is half, i.e. one out of the two will be correct. You have 50% chances of being correct. Similarly if you toss a coin the chances that your guess will be correct is 50% (1 out of 2) i.e. 1/2. If you toss a coin the second time, the chances that you will be correct in the second toss is again 50% i.e. half. But the chances that you will be correct in both the tosses is half multiplied by half (1/2 x 1/2) which is equal to 1/4 i.e. 50% of 50% which is equal to 25%. If you toss a coin the third time, chances that you will be correct all three times is (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) that is 1/8 or 50% of 50% of 50% that is 12½%.

A dice has got six sides. If you throw a dice and guess any number between 1 to 6, the chances that your guess will be correct is 1/6. If you throw the dice the second time, the chances that your guess will be correct in both the throws is (1/6 x 1/6) which is equal to 1/36. If you throw the dice the third time, the chances that all your three guesses are correct is (1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6) is equal to 1/216 that is less than 0.5 %.

Let us apply this theory of probability to the Qur’an, and assume that a person has guessed all the information that is mentioned in the Qur’an which was unknown at that time. Let us discuss the probability of all the guesses being simultaneously correct.

At the time when the Qur’an was revealed, people thought the world was flat, there are several other options for the shape of the earth. It could be triangular, it could be quadrangular, pentagonal, hexagonal, heptagonal, octagonal, spherical, etc. Lets assume there are about 30 different options for the shape of the earth. The Qur’an rightly says it is spherical, if it was a guess the chances of the guess being correct is 1/30.

The light of the moon can be its own light or a reflected light. The Qur’an rightly says it is a reflected light. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/2 and the probability that both the guesses i.e the earth is spherical and the light of the moon is reflected light is 1/30 x 1/2 = 1/60.

Further, the Qur’an also mentions every living thing is made of water. Every living thing can be made up of either wood, stone, copper, aluminum, steel, silver, gold, oxygen, nitrogen, hydrogen, oil, water, cement, concrete, etc. The options are say about 10,000. The Qur’an rightly says that everything is made up of water. If it is a guess, the chances that it will be correct is 1/10,000 and the probability of all the three guesses i.e. the earth is spherical, light of moon is reflected light and everything is created from water being correct is 1/30 x 1/2 x 1/10,000 = 1/60,000 which is equal to about .0017%.

 

The Qur’an speaks about hundreds of things that were not known to men at the time of its revelation. Only in three options the result is .0017%. I leave it upto you, to work out the probability if all the hundreds of the unknown facts were guesses, the chances of all of them being correct guesses simultaneously and there being not a single wrong guess. It is beyond human capacity to make all correct guesses without a single mistake, which itself is sufficient to prove to a logical person that the origin of the Qur’an is Divine.


Biological Proofs

1. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:

The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.

The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day.

And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.4

Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life:

It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees.

Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that thousands of chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5

Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body.

Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees.

Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter.

Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6

The human brain...simultaneously processes an amazing amount of information. Your brain takes in all the colors and objects you see, the temperature around you, the pressure of your feet against the floor, the sounds around you, the dryness of your mouth, even the texture of your keyboard. Your brain holds and processes all your emotions, thoughts and memories. At the same time your brain keeps track of the ongoing functions of your body like your breathing pattern, eyelid movement, hunger and movement of the muscles in your hands.

The human brain processes more than a million messages a second.7 Your brain weighs the importance of all this data, filtering out the relatively unimportant. This screening function is what allows you to focus and operate effectively in your world. The brain functions differently than other organs. There is an intelligence to it, the ability to reason, to produce feelings, to dream and plan, to take action, and relate to other people.

The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.8 Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.
2. Does God exist? The universe had a start - what caused it?

Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself.

Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."9

Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."10

The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter.
3. Does God exist? The universe operates by uniform laws of nature. Why does it?

Much of life may seem uncertain, but look at what we can count on day after day: gravity remains consistent, a hot cup of coffee left on a counter will get cold, the earth rotates in the same 24 hours, and the speed of light doesn't change -- on earth or in galaxies far from us.

How is it that we can identify laws of nature that never change? Why is the universe so orderly, so reliable?

"The greatest scientists have been struck by how strange this is. There is no logical necessity for a universe that obeys rules, let alone one that abides by the rules of mathematics. This astonishment springs from the recognition that the universe doesn't have to behave this way. It is easy to imagine a universe in which conditions change unpredictably from instant to instant, or even a universe in which things pop in and out of existence."11

Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery...The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle."12
4. Does God exist? The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behavior.

All instruction, all teaching, all training comes with intent. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. Did you know that in every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program? As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!

Well, just like you can program your phone to beep for specific reasons, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual.13

Why is this so amazing? One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop.

Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.

You are Required to answer all the questions in this post before you can say something.

Next time I will Give you the Story of Another atheist that come to Conclude that Yes GOD exist .

You are a Small in this Concept and need to be helped and uninstalled that Blast Black Blind(BBB) Argument that u have.!!! Hmmm!!!
This is Just the Beginning...........
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- atamajim at 9-11-2010 01:22 PM (13 years ago)
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They are dead  men seeking attension
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- wonderfullymade at 9-11-2010 05:22 PM (13 years ago)
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 is bad enough i have to read boring stuffs  in school but on a social website" abeg oo!"next tym please write a shorter one...maybe lazy ppl lyk me will read(.phew! u get time mahn )..btw i believe theres a GOD so i escape yur brain/head check up  .lol
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- abduuul at 11-11-2010 11:48 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: wonderfullymade on  9-11-2010 05:22 PM
is bad enough i have to read boring stuffs  in school but on a social website" abeg oo!"next tym please write a shorter one...maybe lazy ppl lyk me will read(.phew! u get time mahn )..btw i believe theres a GOD so i escape yur brain/head check up  .lol


@wonderfullymade : year i got you, next time i will summarize my writings for people like you. But I did that to give them enough reason so that  i can silence them all. But try to read it for u to get an idea, in case you meet with this kind of people(atheist).
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- chik001 at 11-11-2010 01:12 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: wonderfullymade on  9-11-2010 05:22 PM
is bad enough i have to read boring stuffs  in school but on a social website" abeg oo!"next tym please write a shorter one...maybe lazy ppl lyk me will read(.phew! u get time mahn )..btw i believe theres a GOD so i escape yur brain/head check up  .lol


@wonderfullymade : year i got you, next time i will summarize my writings for people like you. But I did that to give them enough reason so that  i can silence them all. But try to read it for u to get an idea, in case you meet with this kind of people(atheist).

Ehen...you sounded interesting in you proof of God existence. I will buy you burukutu anytime I see you Grin
Please could you give me that story of the atheist who later believed that God exist please..am writing a book on misfit atheists and their values.
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- abduuul at 11-11-2010 02:04 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 11-11-2010 01:12 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 11-11-2010 11:48 AM
Quote from: wonderfullymade on  9-11-2010 05:22 PM
is bad enough i have to read boring stuffs  in school but on a social website" abeg oo!"next tym please write a shorter one...maybe lazy ppl lyk me will read(.phew! u get time mahn )..btw i believe theres a GOD so i escape yur brain/head check up  .lol


@wonderfullymade : year i got you, next time i will summarize my writings for people like you. But I did that to give them enough reason so that  i can silence them all. But try to read it for u to get an idea, in case you meet with this kind of people(atheist).

Ehen...you sounded interesting in you proof of God existence. I will buy you burukutu anytime I see you Grin
Please could you give me that story of the atheist who later believed that God exist please..am writing a book on misfit atheists and their values.

@chik001: This is the Story As you requested. This is a True Life Story It happen in England.
                           
And I quote
 "I was an atheist at one time. And like many atheists, the issue of people believing in God bothered me greatly. What is it about atheists that we would spend so much time, attention, and energy refuting something that we don't believe even exists?! What causes us to do that? When I was an atheist, I attributed my intentions as caring for those poor, delusional people...to help them realize their hope was completely ill-founded. To be honest, I also had another motive. As I challenged those who believed in God, I was deeply curious to see if they could convince me otherwise. Part of my quest was to become free from the question of God. If I could conclusively prove to believers that they were wrong, then the issue is off the table, and I would be free to go about my life.

I didn't realize that the reason the topic of God weighed so heavily on my mind, was because God was pressing the issue. I have come to find out that God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us. It was as if I couldn't escape thinking about the possibility of God. In fact, the day I chose to acknowledge God's existence, my prayer began with, "Ok, you win..." It might be that the underlying reason atheists are bothered by people believing in God is because God is actively pursuing them.

I am not the only one who has experienced this. Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

Lewis went on to write a book titled, "Surprised by Joy" as a result of knowing God. I too had no expectations other than rightfully admitting God's existence. Yet over the following several months, I became amazed by his love for me."
 I hope this is enough for you. If you meet me, buy water for me not burukutu.
  Good day..
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- chik001 at 13-11-2010 11:28 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 11-11-2010 02:04 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 11-11-2010 01:12 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 11-11-2010 11:48 AM
Quote from: wonderfullymade on  9-11-2010 05:22 PM
is bad enough i have to read boring stuffs  in school but on a social website" abeg oo!"next tym please write a shorter one...maybe lazy ppl lyk me will read(.phew! u get time mahn )..btw i believe theres a GOD so i escape yur brain/head check up  .lol


@wonderfullymade : year i got you, next time i will summarize my writings for people like you. But I did that to give them enough reason so that  i can silence them all. But try to read it for u to get an idea, in case you meet with this kind of people(atheist).

Ehen...you sounded interesting in you proof of God existence. I will buy you burukutu anytime I see you Grin
Please could you give me that story of the atheist who later believed that God exist please..am writing a book on misfit atheists and their values.

@chik001: This is the Story As you requested. This is a True Life Story It happen in England.
                           
And I quote
 "I was an atheist at one time. And like many atheists, the issue of people believing in God bothered me greatly. What is it about atheists that we would spend so much time, attention, and energy refuting something that we don't believe even exists?! What causes us to do that? When I was an atheist, I attributed my intentions as caring for those poor, delusional people...to help them realize their hope was completely ill-founded. To be honest, I also had another motive. As I challenged those who believed in God, I was deeply curious to see if they could convince me otherwise. Part of my quest was to become free from the question of God. If I could conclusively prove to believers that they were wrong, then the issue is off the table, and I would be free to go about my life.

I didn't realize that the reason the topic of God weighed so heavily on my mind, was because God was pressing the issue. I have come to find out that God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us. It was as if I couldn't escape thinking about the possibility of God. In fact, the day I chose to acknowledge God's existence, my prayer began with, "Ok, you win..." It might be that the underlying reason atheists are bothered by people believing in God is because God is actively pursuing them.

I am not the only one who has experienced this. Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all of England."

Lewis went on to write a book titled, "Surprised by Joy" as a result of knowing God. I too had no expectations other than rightfully admitting God's existence. Yet over the following several months, I became amazed by his love for me."
 I hope this is enough for you. If you meet me, buy water for me not burukutu.
  Good day..

If na England... I believe, most oyibo; because of their welfare state and security no  believe in God and the religion they introduced to us...anyway...that na another story..
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- Celestial1 at 19-11-2010 08:08 AM (13 years ago)
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Well, we all got the gift of free will, so instead of hating the unbelievers or thinking them crazy, just remember they are exercising their inherent gift of  free will and completely sane in doing so. 
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- abduuul at 19-11-2010 10:21 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: Celestial1 on 19-11-2010 08:08 AM
Well, we all got the gift of free will, so instead of hating the unbelievers or thinking them crazy, just remember they are exercising their inherent gift of  free will and completely sane in doing so. 


who give them free will? can what so called free will be inherit? what are the proofs?. 
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- atamajim at 25-11-2010 02:51 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: Celestial1 on 19-11-2010 08:08 AM
Well, we all got the gift of free will, so instead of hating the unbelievers or thinking them crazy, just remember they are exercising their inherent gift of  free will and completely sane in doing so. 


 well, yes but remember you also got the free will to decide to commit  crimes. And you should know such act got consequences of course, likewise such crime against the Almighty one got Far more serous consequence. If you actually love your brothers, convince them to believe in God
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- abduuul at 26-11-2010 11:12 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: atamajim on 25-11-2010 02:51 PM
Quote from: Celestial1 on 19-11-2010 08:08 AM
Well, we all got the gift of free will, so instead of hating the unbelievers or thinking them crazy, just remember they are exercising their inherent gift of  free will and completely sane in doing so. 


 well, yes but remember you also got the free will to decide to commit  crimes. And you should know such act got consequences of course, likewise such crime against the Almighty one got Far more serous consequence. If you actually love your brothers, convince them to believe in God

Yes Bros......
You speak the truth..
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- agabs at 26-11-2010 03:47 PM (13 years ago)
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poster, please seperate God from Religion cause God existed before religion. It is therefore not right to equate God and Religion as you are doing.

Can't you understand that?

Can't you understand that, humanity's religions do not equate Man's creator?

When you speak with christians, they will quote from their Bible.
When you speak with muslims, they will quote from the Koran.
Talk to budhist the quote from the Gita.

Separate Religion from God. God and Religion are too different things.

It takes higher wisdom to picture God differently.

 
What Religion does is personalizing God. God is more than any human. In fact the very fact of Books being in human words makes religion way less than God. Yet humanity claims the bible, the koran, the gita carry the words of God. So, mister poster, so which book contains Gods words? Can you tell me?

I wonder if God speaks?

If God spoke, shouldn't it be music to the ears? 
God speaks every day to us. He is speaking right now.
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Logic within a certain dan of wisdom proposes that God exists.
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However Religion condemns human to hell. Why should God create something to destroy it in hell? Has it ever occured to you than no human asked to be born? It therefore means that existing is for a purpose.

Religion takes away the power of humans defining goals for their lifes. Religion takes away a humans belief in his ability to solve problems.

I think the world will be a better place if we stop preaching religion and start preaching God. I think the world will be a better place if we preach love instead of violence. I think the world will be a better place if realize every humans humanity and evident helplessness.

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Has it occured to you that the Bible condemns the whole middle east to hell?
Has it occured to you that the Koran condemns more than half of the world to hell?

DID ANY MESSIAH OR PROPHET CREATE A SINGLE HUMAN CELL? Yet, their books condemn people to hell. People they did not create?
IS the creator of something not the decider of the things faith?

Is the creator of something not knowledgeable enough to instruct or change his creation?

Religion infringes on Gods rights or rather arrogates God's powers to humans.

RELIGION IS THEREFORE SUSPECT. TOO MANY POOR PEOPLE.

THE PASTORS NEVER LACK.
THE IMAMS NEVER LACK.

One can even say the monks in some asian countries are holier than some pastors and imams in Nigeria.

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Buddhists believe cows are sacred. Christians and Muslims do not . Can you imagine humans conflicting over the sacredness of an animal? Does it make sense.
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- agabs at 26-11-2010 03:51 PM (13 years ago)
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The day a human realizes that a human can not act beyond his ignorance, he gets one step closer to God. A man who practices the suggestions that are born by the saying "a man cannot act beyond his ignorance" flies towards his maker.

JESUS UNDERSTOOD THAT AT THE TAIL END OF HIS LIFE.
MAHATMA GHANDI UNDERSTOOD THAT.
MARTIN LUTHER UNDERSTOOD THAT.
MOTHER THERESA UNDERSTOOD THAT.

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- chik001 at 26-11-2010 07:23 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: agabs on 26-11-2010 03:51 PM
The day a human realizes that a human can not act beyond his ignorance, he gets one step closer to God. A man who practices the suggestions that are born by the saying "a man cannot act beyond his ignorance" flies towards his maker.

JESUS UNDERSTOOD THAT AT THE TAIL END OF HIS LIFE.
MAHATMA GHANDI UNDERSTOOD THAT.
MARTIN LUTHER UNDERSTOOD THAT.
MOTHER THERESA UNDERSTOOD THAT.


There are cases of ignorance that are not our fault…that can be excused… But there are also things that we are bound to know…
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- agabs at 29-11-2010 11:00 AM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 26-11-2010 07:23 PM
Quote from: agabs on 26-11-2010 03:51 PM
The day a human realizes that a human can not act beyond his ignorance, he gets one step closer to God. A man who practices the suggestions that are born by the saying "a man cannot act beyond his ignorance" flies towards his maker.

JESUS UNDERSTOOD THAT AT THE TAIL END OF HIS LIFE.
MAHATMA GHANDI UNDERSTOOD THAT.
MARTIN LUTHER UNDERSTOOD THAT.
MOTHER THERESA UNDERSTOOD THAT.


There are cases of ignorance that are not our fault…that can be excused… But there are also things that we are bound to know…
Wow! You are speaking according to your ignorance. Wow. Understand what you are saying.

Never the less, truth is humans are not equipped to carry out a precise measurement of another humans ignorance. We lack a formula for arriving at ignorance for we are all peculiarly ignorant.

Only two existences are therefore in a good position to judge a man; the man and God. And the man is in a bad position relatively to God.

Your Wisdom is foolery to another according to his understanding.
Your Religion is foolery to another according to his understanding.
Your blasphemy is another man's enjoyment.


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I guess that is why in Africa - the old Africa - no way was absolute. they believed there was more than one route to God. Even in Yoga there are more than a way to achieve that higher consciousness.

Africa's religion or deity was absolute.

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- agabs at 29-11-2010 11:21 AM (13 years ago)
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Correction: In Africa, no religion or deity was absolute. Very unlike the white man's religions: Christianity and Islam. They are very absolute.
In fact, Judaism is so absolute that it is tied to a bloodline.

Islam is so absolute that the reward for renouncing Islam is death. Can somebody correct me if I am wrong?

You see, Christianity and Islam propose that only their way is the right way. They are very absolute. One can say that they insult the intelligence of the practitioners of other religions.

Islam is so absolute that an unpalatable insinuation of 'Mohammed' can have you killed.

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