Bible (Page 2)

you must like the word "blackmail"...
No one is blackmailing anyone here...as I have said earlier somewhere on this site...gone are the days the validity of the Koranic writings hidden in Arabic text...
Now we don't need to learn Arabic or meet people " like you" to know the true content of Islamic texts...or fear to ask critical questions so as not to be killed.
You talk of real translation...
Which is the real translation....Abu Bakr... 'Uthman or The  Hafs version...probably the Imam Warsh version...or the Hausa and English version siting under my pile of "oriental" books...?

I have piles and piles of your "oriental books" and the Internet to tell me all I need to know about Islam and The Koran...Sources, Variant Versions, contradictions, Missing Verses, Verses Added...etc.

@gangstar-kid

Can you please provide me with original, authentic copy of the Bible. With me there are many versions which I could not believe to be complete.

Brothers, the Bible is a collection of writings that the early (ancient) Christian church decided to make their standard of truth. They (the ancient Church) inherited the Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures (translated in Egypt by Greek speaking Jews in the BC period) and the holy apostles sometimes quoted from these Greek scriptures and sometimes from the Hebrew originals when they wrote their letters to the first Christian communities (Rome, Corinth, Thessalonica, Colossae, Ephesus, etc).

This early church was mostly Greek speaking Jews and non-Jews, and a minority of Aramaic speaking Jews and non-Jews. Because the Greek language was in those early times like the English language is today, the ancient church decided that the Bible which they put together would only include writings in the Greek language.

That ancient collection of original Greek language scriptures is still used by the Orthodox Church, which is the modern day continuation of the ancient church. All the different versions you are asking about are translations from that ancient Greek Bible. That's why there can be many versions, because many people in all the countries have translated these writings into their mother tongues. If their intention was to translate faithfully, then the translations can be trusted.

But we always must go back to the Greek Bible to check on any disputed point, and ask those who speak the Greek language (not modern Greek, but Bible Greek, which is still spoken by many Greeks and other nationalities) what the words mean. You will discover, if you do this, that most disputes melt away, except when those who question are not interested in really understanding the truth, but only in building themselves up and creating factions based on their private interpretations.

This is why there are so many sects. But the churches that have the Greek Bible and accept it, even though they are many nations, all believe the same way, practice the one faith as handed over from ancient times, and do not fight with each other over doctrines and teachings. This group is called the Orthodox Church, and in Africa it exists from ancient times in Egypt and Ethiopia, and in modern times it has become native in countries like Ghana, Cameroun, Uganda, Kenya, Madagascar, and other places.

If you want to hear the Greek Bible being read in the original language, visit my blog, Η Καινή Διαθήκη (i kaini dhiathiki), http://i-kaini-dhiathiki.blogspot.com/

If you want to find out about the Orthodox Church look for it on the internet, or write me a message and I will answer you. I speak English, je parle français, yo hablo español, and of course, Greek.

I am a Greek Orthodox Christian, and I witness for Jesus. We do not argue, but patiently try to explain the Bible and the faith of Jesus Christ, and we welcome all people to become disciples and have faith in God's Son, who is the savior of the whole human race, but especially of believers.

Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Why? Because He loves us, and more than we love ourselves. He invites us to live in His Word, which is the Bible, and to make it our home, to speak its words, to think its thoughts, to let it take us apart and put us back together again. Sin has broken us. Jesus has come into the world to fix us. He was dead but He alive again and is with us at this moment. He is the most active person in the history of the world. Trust in Him.

don't mind them they are trying to disgrace themselves by the time i will decided to talk to them

and where is the copy you called original if i may ask?.

See where your problem lies...
You and your companions failed to realize that...there is no and will never be a literal translation of a language to another…

 Anytime a translation is done into another language, the translator (who is only human) has to interpret the meaning and render it in the new language. It is, by nature, an approximation of the meaning, since words and ideas cannot be expressed identically in different languages.

Read the below explanation as if you dont already know...

1. A single word in one language often has meanings that require several words in another language e.g, the Greek word angelos could mean either `divine messengers' or `Jesus' disciples'.  The English word `wall' could be translated into German as Wand (inside wall, partition) or as Mauer (exterior wall).  Word for word translation is out of the question.

2. Because grammatical particles (like articles, verb tenses, case markers, singular/dual/plural, etc) do not exist in every language leading to multiple ambiguities (from the perspective of a target language like English). For example, a Russian sentence literally translated as `Boy threw ball.' needs two articles in an English translation, either a or the for boy and for ball. Only the context of the sentence could tell us which to use for the English translation. Not using ANY articles at all produces nearly unintelligible English.  The Japanese sentence rendered literally as `Remove front wheel' could mean either `Remove a front wheel' or `Remove both front wheels'. Which is the correct translation depends on the context.
3. Because idioms that have obvious meaning in one language and culture may be completely confusing to speakers from another language and culture.