cadanre at 14-06-2011 09:41 PM (13 years ago) (f) How can a man be a God?
Mind you that the mistery of three person in one GOD is beyound human understanding that is why it remain GOD er only use the little sence of human to discribe him he is more than what we call him(GOD)
Wait a minute! You said he is more than what you called him (GOD). Did you really mean Jesus is more than God? Shed more light please.
IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA Posted: at 14-06-2011 09:41 PM (13 years ago) | Hero | |
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frayobkk at 14-06-2011 09:48 PM (13 years ago) (m) First did you believe in three person in one GOD "God the father God the son God the holy spirit: if u are u reply and lets go on
Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." Luke 18:27 Posted: at 14-06-2011 09:48 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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thowbee at 14-06-2011 09:54 PM (13 years ago) (f) First did you believe in three person in one GOD "God the father God the son God the holy spirit: if u are u reply and lets go on
mehn..this is interesting buh thot God made us in his likeness.... Posted: at 14-06-2011 09:54 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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frayobkk at 14-06-2011 10:00 PM (13 years ago) (m) @thowbee yes ..... He(GOD) made us in his likeness but dont forget that spirit dont have flesh we are GOD like by spirit that works in us .the bibble make us to know that after we die our spirit will meet GOD for jodgement. that spirit in us is what make us the same with GOd which other creature didnt have
Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." Luke 18:27 Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:00 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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thowbee at 14-06-2011 10:06 PM (13 years ago) (f) @thowbee yes ..... He(GOD) made us in his likeness but dont forget that spirit dont have flesh we are GOD like by spirit that works in us .the bibble make us to know that after we die our spirit will meet GOD for jodgement. that spirit in us is what make us the same with GOd which other creature didnt have
okay..help understand another thing.....most pple refer to Jesus as " 'the' son of God"...and then I read that he is also 'the son of man'...I really can't remember reading him referring to 'Joseph' as his dad......another thing is I believe we all r sons and daughters of God...and I kinda think that Jesus is 'a' son of God not 'the' son of God..... Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:06 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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frayobkk at 14-06-2011 10:16 PM (13 years ago) (m) @Thowbee the bibble says When we are still sinners He give up his life so that if we believe in him we will be save jeus is GOD but if he come down from heaven and start speeking to ppl no will hear him so he has to come in human flesh mary did not concive through segxwal intercouse . and the bibble say in the book of Isaiah i am hearing a voice saying who will go for us who shall we send and the son of man said her i am send me . this prophecy come 1000 years b4 the birth of Jesus
Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." Luke 18:27 Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:16 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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mchinwendu at 14-06-2011 11:41 PM (13 years ago) (f) Dear Poster,
I actually answered your question at the very beginning but will share again. The Bible is the inspired word of God. It was written by over appx. 40 different authors, overtime...all with the same message/theme. In addition, they all share the true nature of God. Which is so amazing! If you want actual names, here are some: Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Ezra, Nehemiah, King David, Malachi, Matthew, John Mark, Luke, John, Paul, James, and Peter just to name a few.
I have one question, if you would please answer:
If you were a scientist and you were going through a book of experiments. One experiment after the other you executed according to how the book instructed with positive results. Now, you come to a few experiments that you tried but a few important steps were unclear to you and the results were unsuccessful. You decided to skip these for now and went on to complete the other experiments with success. Another scientist now asks your opinion, whether the book is accurate or not.
So, I am now asking you poster...would a few things not understand make the book accurate or inaccurate? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What about the Bible? Who actually wrote it? -The Bible is the inspired word of God. Written by many different authors of God's choice. The Bible told us the world was round, when scientist was saying it was flat and so much more.
What was the original language of the Bible? (Hebrew? Aramaic? Koine Greek?) -The old testament was in Hebrew because was the language spoken at that time. The new testament was written in Greek because it was the language at that time.not fall out of the sky complete. God chose to work through humans. So, as different incidents happened, they were recorded and preserved. The Bible are many eyewitness accounts of the life and works of Jesus Christ, there are prophesies God gave to man about Jesus Christ before he walked the earth, during his time on earth and after, there are historitcal facts, scientific facts, moral facts, what we need to know to receive eternal life with God and so much more given to us in the Bible. It was compiled by thousands manuscript copies. The number of manuscript copies outweight the numbers of any other book we humans have, yet other books are considered as fact with less than 100 manuscript copies. There is more on this point...so much more.
Why does the Catholic Bible has seven (7) more books than the Protestant Bible? -Sorry, many in the catholic religion say they are followers of Christ and some are but many follow Mary. Mary had to ask for forgiveness also. The Catholics Bible has been changed to fit their beliefs. As well, one of the 10 the commandment which says do not worship graven images has been removed and one of the other commandments have been split, to make it 10 again. Christianity is not a religion.
Why do these two Bibles have different versions of the same books? -Not sure what you mean? Do you mean two different accounts of the same story? If so, as in any account, everyone will be at a different point and see the same incident at a different point/angel it occured. Like an auto accident, eye witnesses on the scene will see different things. From all the accounts taken, the truth speaks volumes and is easily arrived at. If one says the car was dark and another says the car was black, they have said the same thing. It is the same in the Bible, some towns have more than one name, some people are known by first and last name or father's name, etc. but it's saying the same thing. There are no contradictions. Usually background, historical and cultural study must be done to understand the whole account correctly.
Why are there so many mistakes and errors are from the very first verse right up to the very last verse? -Grammarical errors are not mistakes in content. Which do you specifically refer to?
Why do 'Born Again Christians' teach concepts that are not from the Bible? -Please specify, which concept?
There is no word "Trinity" in the Bible in any version of any language -The actual word trinity is not in the Bible, but please can you translate the Hebrew word Elohim, which is in the Bible?
The oldest forms of Christianity do not support the 'born again' beliefs -Please give an example? In Genesis, God created man mind/body/spirit. When sin entered in, man spiritually died, leaving mind/body. To become spiritually alive, one much accept life, which is in Jesus. Thus, accepting Jesus as who he is, gives life and one becomes perfect again, as in complete with mind/body/spirit...born again.
Jesus of the English Bible complains about the 'crucifixion' ("Eli! Eli! Lama sabachthani? - My God! My God! Why have You forsaken me?") [Mk 15:34] -This is taken out of context...will address in a different post. Some beliefs falsely teach Jesus was not crucified but this verse and history shows he was.
Stop there! You did not answer even the first question. Who were the actual writers of the Bible? Finish with this before you proceed please! Posted: at 14-06-2011 11:41 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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mchinwendu at 14-06-2011 11:55 PM (13 years ago) (f) We, humans, are created in the image of God and we are:
Mind Body Spirit = one person
God (Elohim) is:
God the father God the son God the Holy Spirit = One God
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KINGJHOE at 14-06-2011 11:58 PM (13 years ago) (m) POSTER U ARE JUST EMPTY....AND YOU JUST TOLD US THAT AGAIN.SUCKS Posted: at 14-06-2011 11:58 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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frayobkk at 15-06-2011 04:20 PM (13 years ago) (m) Jesus did not even carry the cross -- Simon Cyre'ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21] I can see every well that all u are here for is to point out some arguement through what u read in the bible still yet u dont believe what need is it then to argue with u on this ur question mark 15:20 And when they had mocked Him, they took the purple off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him out to crucify Him. if i may ask u who cary the cross now before verse 21 ,
Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." Luke 18:27 Posted: at 15-06-2011 04:20 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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Inemx at 17-06-2011 06:55 PM (13 years ago) (m) question! Posted: at 17-06-2011 06:55 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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cadanre at 17-06-2011 08:41 PM (13 years ago) (f) Dear Poster,
I actually answered your question at the very beginning but will share again. The Bible is the inspired word of God. It was written by over appx. 40 different authors, overtime...all with the same message/theme. In addition, they all share the true nature of God. Which is so amazing! If you want actual names, here are some: Moses, Joshua, Samuel, Ezra, Nehemiah, King David, Malachi, Matthew, John Mark, Luke, John, Paul, James, and Peter just to name a few.
I have one question, if you would please answer:
If you were a scientist and you were going through a book of experiments. One experiment after the other you executed according to how the book instructed with positive results. Now, you come to a few experiments that you tried but a few important steps were unclear to you and the results were unsuccessful. You decided to skip these for now and went on to complete the other experiments with success. Another scientist now asks your opinion, whether the book is accurate or not.
So, I am now asking you poster...would a few things not understand make the book accurate or inaccurate?
Do you know that most of these writers you mentioned above are not the original authors. I mean there is no authoritative evidences that some of them were the original authors of their books. Take Mark for example: Let me quot from the NIV Bible commentary: -
"Although there is no direct internal evidence of authorship, it was the unanimous testimony of the early church that this Gospel was written by John Mark. (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1488)"
We certainly do not know whether Mark was the author or not! The quote clearly states "no direct internal evidence of authorship". Also, the so-called unanimous testimony of the early church.
Nor does it prove that other people did not alter and modify the book, especially when the book was written at least 40-50 years after Christ. We don't even know if Mark even wrote the book.
Let me quot again from the Bible commentary:
"This passage, termed the Longer Ending to the Marcan gospel by comparison with a much briefer conclusion found in some less important manuscripts, has traditionally been accepted as a canonical part of the gospel and was defined as such by the Council of Trent. Early citations of it by the Fathers indicate that it was composed by the second century, although vocabulary and style indicate that it was written by someone other than Mark. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1088)"
The Book of 1 and 2 Peter:
"Some modern scholars on the basis of a number of features that they consider incompatible with Petrine authenticity, regard the letter as the work of a later Christian writer. Such features include the cultivated Greek in which it is written, difficult to attribute to a Galilean fisherman, together with its use of the Greek Septuagint translation when citing the Old Testament; the similarity in both thought and expression to the Pauline literature; and the allusions to widespread persecution of Christians, which did not occur until at least the reign of Domitian (A.D. 81-96). In this view the letter would date from the end of the first century or even the beginning of the second, when there is evidence for persecution of Christians in Asia Minor. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1348)"
"Nevertheless, acceptance of 2 Peter into the New Testament canon met with great resistance in the early church. The oldest certain reference to it comes from Origen in the early third century. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1354)"
"Among modern scholars there is wide agreement that 2 Peter is a pseudonymous work, i.e., one written by a later author who attributed it to Peter. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1354)"
So like the rest of the books and gospels of the Bible, we don't even know regarding 1 Peter:
The Book of Acts:
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. (From the NIV Bible Commentary [1], page 1643)"
So based on some conclusion, you're willing to die for defending the idea that the Book of Acts was the True Word of GOD Almighty? If the book was inspired by GOD Almighty, then how come it wasn't mentioned in the book itself to help us filter it out from the many other "Satanic false books"? After all, its just a conclusion, isn't it?
Beside, what evidence are they talking about?! The New Testament wasn't even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to) after Jesus. So unless the Book/Gospel was signed by its author, there is no way we would know for sure that it was indeed his book from the first place, let alone considering it as the True Living Word of GOD.
CONSIDERING THIS WITH MANY OTHER INCONSISTENCIES REGARDING THE ORIGINAL AUTHORS OF THE BIBLE, THE QUESTION REMAINED UNANSWERED.
............... Who wrote it? ............... How many people wrote it? ............... When was it written? ............... Where was it written?
IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA Posted: at 17-06-2011 08:41 PM (13 years ago) | Hero | |
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cadanre at 17-06-2011 08:43 PM (13 years ago) (f) POSTER U ARE JUST EMPTY....AND YOU JUST TOLD US THAT AGAIN.SUCKS
I KNOW HOW IT FEELS.
IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA Posted: at 17-06-2011 08:43 PM (13 years ago) | Hero | |
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cadanre at 17-06-2011 08:44 PM (13 years ago) (f) Jesus did not even carry the cross -- Simon Cyre'ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21]
I can see every well that all u are here for is to point out some arguement through what u read in the bible still yet u dont believe what need is it then to argue with u on this ur question mark 15:20 And when they had mocked Him, they took the purple off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him out to crucify Him. if i may ask u who cary the cross now before verse 21 ,
What?
IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA Posted: at 17-06-2011 08:44 PM (13 years ago) | Hero | |
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attamem at 21-06-2011 02:36 PM (13 years ago) (m) POSTER!!! FOR ALL YOUR WONDERFUL THOUGHT PROVOKING QUESTIONS I HAVE JUST ONE ANSWER FOR YOU.
I CAN SEE THAT YOU WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH! AND ONLY THE TRUTH CAN REVEAL THE TRUTH TO YOU!!!
SO IF YOU ARE REALLY SERIOUS; ONE NIGHT BEFORE YOU GO TO BED CALL UPON THE LORD IN THE NAME OF JESUS TELL HIM IF INDEED HE IS WHAT HE CLAIM TO BE HE SHOULD REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU
TRUST ME YOU WILL BE AMAZE AND SURPRISE AND YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN. IN JESUS NAME.
THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT!!!!
Meaningless! Posted: at 21-06-2011 02:36 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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DELAT at 21-06-2011 03:20 PM (13 years ago) (m) What i know is,there are people no matter how you tell them the truth,they will say is lie,because their brain is blocked,for them to think is problem.Thank Allah that am not among. Posted: at 21-06-2011 03:20 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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tttonero at 24-06-2011 06:26 AM (13 years ago) (m) The book of story's, that's all it is, you know it as the Bible. Who owns the royalty rights to this work of fiction. How does the author receive his payment ? Posted: at 24-06-2011 06:26 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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frayobkk at 24-06-2011 08:19 AM (13 years ago) (m) Jesus did not even carry the cross -- Simon Cyre'ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21]
I can see every well that all u are here for is to point out some arguement through what u read in the bible still yet u dont believe what need is it then to argue with u on this ur question mark 15:20 And when they had mocked Him, they took the purple off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him out to crucify Him. if i may ask u who cary the cross now before verse 21 ,
What? You that have read everyverse in the biblle or maybe probable you where there when the ar about to crusifild Jesus then i ask you Why dont you answer my question you are saying what like u dont understand
Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." Luke 18:27 Posted: at 24-06-2011 08:19 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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mchinwendu at 27-06-2011 07:37 PM (13 years ago) (f) Dear Poster, It's true, we should have knowledge so we don't perish but even with knowledge, we humans will not ever know everything. Because there are things our minds can't comprehend now in the state that we are in. There are also things that are in God's own power and not for us to know in the first place. Look at humans being and how complex we are, then look at the world and all that is in it and where it's placed perfectly for us to exist here on earth.
One suggested that you talk to God and ask Him to reveal himself to you...it's the best solution.
There is a man who worked for one of the top USA newspapers, he did not believe in God. So, he did an in-depth investigation which involved the Bible and it's authenticity, Christianity and Jesus Christ. It's called, The Case for Christ, by Lee Strobel. Maybe you have heard of it already? If not, the entire movie can be found on www.youtube.com
It is my prayer that you too find the answers you seek, and you find life in Jesus Christ...amen. Posted: at 27-06-2011 07:37 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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cadanre at 28-06-2011 05:10 PM (13 years ago) (f) Jesus did not even carry the cross -- Simon Cyre'ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21]
I can see every well that all u are here for is to point out some arguement through what u read in the bible still yet u dont believe what need is it then to argue with u on this ur question mark 15:20 And when they had mocked Him, they took the purple off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him out to crucify Him. if i may ask u who cary the cross now before verse 21 ,
What? You that have read everyverse in the biblle or maybe probable you where there when the ar about to crusifild Jesus then i ask you Why dont you answer my question you are saying what like u dont understand You have not answered one out of tens of questions I asked and, yet, you are asking me another question. Don't you have real answers to my questions?
IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA Posted: at 28-06-2011 05:10 PM (13 years ago) | Hero | |
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