Church Gate Fee: Pastors Condemn Oyakhilome (Page 4)

Date: 09-01-2011 7:19 pm (11 years ago) | Author: Alfred
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- jamngr84 at 12-01-2011 02:18 PM (11 years ago)
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if to c pastor chris preach is 1000 bucks wonder in those days how much would so called pastor chris have told us to pay to c jesus  Huh? Huh? Huh?
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- princedafe at 12-01-2011 03:26 PM (11 years ago)
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WHY CANT YOU PPLE MIND YA OWN BIZNESS
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- ochagwu at 12-01-2011 03:37 PM (11 years ago)
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you all know that all men want to go to heaven, may be he has an aeroplane that was bill for heaven that night that is why he insisted the worshippers pay for their fare, no bad thing in paying for your transportation my brother, though its really bad cos he announced it, he would have done it silently.
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- mat-James at 12-01-2011 04:33 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: princedafe on 12-01-2011 03:26 PM
WHY CANT YOU PPLE MIND YA OWN BIZNESS

My guy this is spiritual issue that deals with eternity & the souls of men we are talking about,
and any of my relative or your's might be at the scene or be a member of the church,
so it concerns all of us
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- jaynoble at 12-01-2011 04:43 PM (11 years ago)
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if this issue is true, there is a mistake somewhere, because there are other ways these men use in colleting their coins. eg Offering for the new year, end of the year offering, crossover offering, Thankgiving offering, seed sowing, welfare offering, church building and so on and so fort. Rather than GATE FEES
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- natyodion at 12-01-2011 04:52 PM (11 years ago)
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There is much to it than made to believed, truely God knows those that are truely his worshippers. The end justify the means.
I believe God alone that should judge as far as this issues is concern.
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- tanitoy at 12-01-2011 04:57 PM (11 years ago)
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may God have mercy on all of you
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- babebose at 12-01-2011 05:01 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: joyjumper on 12-01-2011 01:38 AM
Quote from: nateskin200 on 11-01-2011 11:33 PM
I have been a staunch supporter of pastor chris for so many years and i have always defended the church when different allegations are been leveled against the man of God,His words has transformed my life and i can categorically says he is a true man of God,What happened on the 31st beats my imagination,and i have called and talked to a lot of people from the church in nigeria, in the meantime i am still not satisfied with the answers i am getting,and i feel pastor needs to come out to apologize to the world,with what the workers told me, they said he was been justified by his actions,the church has grown so much btw 2008 and now that they have to split the oregun branch into 6 other branches,they told me pastor wants every other lagos branch to stand on there own and grow there parish, but every member always wants to come to the oregun branch where pastor preaches, the capacity at the oregun branch can only admit 20,000 people on the 31st, and pastor decided that to keep other members from joining the 31st program,since its going to be streamed live everywhere, anyone who refuses to stay at his or her parish should pay 1000 naira to come to the oregun branch,i am sure the member of the church doesnt see anything bad in doing this in as much they know pastor will be there live and they can see him preach, but what the church,workers,pastor failed to understand is, 31st programs are not meant for the members of christ embassy alone, its for everyone and these are the avenue you can use to bring people in to the fold of God...

I will always support my pastor in all he does,but i totally condemn the admittance fee,he is a true man of God and this is not about following the pastor but just his preaching and what it could do to our lives,we are only human and everyone makes mistake,trust me not 1000 or 100 million will make pastor chris rich,he is way richer than most of the members combine together, and its not our offering or what we give makes him rich,he is truly blessed, and his books,rhapsody of realities alone makes him a multi millionaire,we as nigerians needs men of God who can help build our country,and instill the word of God in our hearts,i know for one i am stubborn and it will take a lot to win my heart over...his teachings have done marvelous things in my life,i havent been to the church in 2 years but i read his books and listen to his teachings.....it still bears fruit in my life.Pls let us not castigate the men of God,they are human,they need us to pray for them so they wont fall, nobody is perfect we are all trying to reach perfection...

There are a lot of things that I could respond to, but I will stick to the last paragraph where you stated that Pastor Chris "is way richer than most of the members combine together, and its not our offering or what we give makes him rich,he is truly blessed, and his books,rhapsody of realities alone makes him a multi millionaire,we as nigerians needs men of God who can help build our country,and instill the word of God in our hearts"

Why should Pastor Chris be way richer than most of the members combined together?  Is this how it was done in biblical times?

Was Moses way richer than most of the members combined together?

Are you aware that it is the members that fund raise for the rhapsody of realities copies?  Are you aware that those that want to be great must learn to become servants?  How many feet of the members have Pastor Chris washed?  How many members have he served?

Do you remember in the biblical time that people brought things like their land, homes after selling them?  Are you aware that all this contribution was combined and all the members benefited from the money and substance that was given?  How many Christ Embassy members are partaking of the spoils?

Do you remember when King David won the battle instead of keeping the spoils to himself after being given to it by the members that he shared with all of them?

Do we remember Jesus Christ?  Jesus Christ served the people.  Jesus Christ fed the people.  Any church that does not distribute the offerings and tithings to the members according to their needs is not a true church of God.
 Wink Wink

 
well said joy jumper
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- Chichis at 12-01-2011 05:17 PM (11 years ago)
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God hear our prayer and have mercy.
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- Deyolah at 12-01-2011 05:20 PM (11 years ago)
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I tought deliverance was supposed to be free.Since wen did the church become a concert ground were you have to pay b4 u get in.Nawa o.d world is rapedly coming to an end
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- cadanre at 12-01-2011 05:26 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: princedafe on 12-01-2011 03:26 PM
WHY CANT YOU PPLE MIND YA OWN BIZNESS

AS THE PASTOR MIND HIS OWN BUSINESS BA? YES! YOU ARE RIGHT.

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- 2slimshady at 12-01-2011 06:48 PM (11 years ago)
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Good riddance to bad rubbish!!!!!!!!
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- nnennababe at 12-01-2011 06:53 PM (11 years ago)
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wonders shall neva end on dis earth ooooooooo
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- enoeno at 12-01-2011 07:06 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: divineproject on 11-01-2011 05:21 PM
I am not in the position to judge........becos I actually didnt witness it......but then we know Jesus wouldnt hinder anyone from coming to Him in anyway!

ys oh ma sista
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- joyjumper at 12-01-2011 07:07 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: Mekoyor on 12-01-2011 07:14 AM
let him dat has no sin first cast the stone.dont judge him but let God do his work
God is in us so God is doing His work already.   Cheesy Cheesy  Listen while God speaks.
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- joyjumper at 12-01-2011 07:17 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: kanayoken on 12-01-2011 08:08 AM
     AM NOT IN SUPPORT OD WHAT     nateskin20  POSTED. HOW WOULD YOU SUPPORT YOUR PASTOR IN EVERY THING HE DOES? THATS WRONG . ALSO YOU SAID THAT THE MONEY WILL NOT MAKE HIM RICH,,----BUT IT WILL MAKE HIM MORE AND MORE RICHER . YOU SAID HE IS WAY MORE RICHER THAN ALL HIS MEMBERS,  I JUST LAUGH, IF HIS MEMBERS AND MANY CHRISTIANS  DONT BUY  THE BOOKS HE WILL NOT MAKE ANY THING  OR  DID ALL THE MONEY HE MAKES FLY FROM HEAVEN?   
     HE IS BEEN PAYED FROM THE MONEY PEOPLE GIVE IN CHURCH ,OR DOES HE HAVE ANY OTHER WORK?   SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?  LETS THINK WELL BEFORE BE POST ANY THING OR SAY THINGS.
     AM NOT AGAINST THIS PASTOR, EVEN THEN IN NIGER I HAVE BEEN TO SOME OF HIS PROGRAMS  AT THE STADIUM, BUT I CANT SEE WHATS WRONG AND SUPPORT IT , JESUS NEVER DID.
 I STILL STAND HE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE AND CHANGE FROM HIS WAYS  BECAUSE ONE DAY WE WILL LEAVE ALL THE RICHES AND MEET THE LORD.
  MAY GOD HELP US ALL .
 I REMAIN MY HUMBLE SELF, K.K.C FOR LIFE.

Do not expect an apology from him. 
Pastor Chris is modeling himself after Joel Osteen in the USA who charges $10 to $200 to those that want to come and see him.  They make no apologies.  This is a growing trend among the so-called modern day pastors/motivational speakers.

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- joyjumper at 12-01-2011 07:19 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: Salahud on 12-01-2011 09:17 AM
they are jealous! givin d same opportunity they will also do the same. wheather we like it or not preachers in Nigeria regardless of whatever form of disguise are businessmen.

His business model is Joel Osteen.
http://www.christianmonthlystandard.com/index.php/this-is-my-bible-joel-osteen-2/

what do you think of Joel Osteen charging $40-$200 to see him preach at yankee stadium?

lets just pretend here for a minute that the bible and all that nonsense is true. One would think that you should be able to hear “the gospel” for free, no?

Who here supports this toothy mofo?

http://ourchristianbookstore.com/joel-osteen/what-do-you-think-of-joel-osteen-charging-40-200-to-see-him-preach-at-yankee-stadium/
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- joyjumper at 12-01-2011 07:23 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: tmusowoya on 12-01-2011 12:15 PM
Quote from: joyjumper on 12-01-2011 01:38 AM
Quote from: nateskin200 on 11-01-2011 11:33 PM
I have been a staunch supporter of pastor chris for so many years and i have always defended the church when different allegations are been leveled against the man of God,His words has transformed my life and i can categorically says he is a true man of God,What happened on the 31st beats my imagination,and i have called and talked to a lot of people from the church in nigeria, in the meantime i am still not satisfied with the answers i am getting,and i feel pastor needs to come out to apologize to the world,with what the workers told me, they said he was been justified by his actions,the church has grown so much btw 2008 and now that they have to split the oregun branch into 6 other branches,they told me pastor wants every other lagos branch to stand on there own and grow there parish, but every member always wants to come to the oregun branch where pastor preaches, the capacity at the oregun branch can only admit 20,000 people on the 31st, and pastor decided that to keep other members from joining the 31st program,since its going to be streamed live everywhere, anyone who refuses to stay at his or her parish should pay 1000 naira to come to the oregun branch,i am sure the member of the church doesnt see anything bad in doing this in as much they know pastor will be there live and they can see him preach, but what the church,workers,pastor failed to understand is, 31st programs are not meant for the members of christ embassy alone, its for everyone and these are the avenue you can use to bring people in to the fold of God...

I will always support my pastor in all he does,but i totally condemn the admittance fee,he is a true man of God and this is not about following the pastor but just his preaching and what it could do to our lives,we are only human and everyone makes mistake,trust me not 1000 or 100 million will make pastor chris rich,he is way richer than most of the members combine together, and its not our offering or what we give makes him rich,he is truly blessed, and his books,rhapsody of realities alone makes him a multi millionaire,we as nigerians needs men of God who can help build our country,and instill the word of God in our hearts,i know for one i am stubborn and it will take a lot to win my heart over...his teachings have done marvelous things in my life,i havent been to the church in 2 years but i read his books and listen to his teachings.....it still bears fruit in my life.Pls let us not castigate the men of God,they are human,they need us to pray for them so they wont fall, nobody is perfect we are all trying to reach perfection...

There are a lot of things that I could respond to, but I will stick to the last paragraph where you stated that Pastor Chris "is way richer than most of the members combine together, and its not our offering or what we give makes him rich,he is truly blessed, and his books,rhapsody of realities alone makes him a multi millionaire,we as nigerians needs men of God who can help build our country,and instill the word of God in our hearts"

Why should Pastor Chris be way richer than most of the members combined together?  Is this how it was done in biblical times?

Was Moses way richer than most of the members combined together?

Are you aware that it is the members that fund raise for the rhapsody of realities copies?  Are you aware that those that want to be great must learn to become servants?  How many feet of the members have Pastor Chris washed?  How many members have he served?

Do you remember in the biblical time that people brought things like their land, homes after selling them?  Are you aware that all this contribution was combined and all the members benefited from the money and substance that was given?  How many Christ Embassy members are partaking of the spoils?

Do you remember when King David won the battle instead of keeping the spoils to himself after being given to it by the members that he shared with all of them?

Do we remember Jesus Christ?  Jesus Christ served the people.  Jesus Christ fed the people.  Any church that does not distribute the offerings and tithings to the members according to their needs is not a true church of God.
 Wink Wink



Spot on brother

To God be the Glory.
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- joyjumper at 12-01-2011 07:41 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: nateskin200 on 12-01-2011 01:18 PM
There are a lot of things that I could respond to, but I will stick to the last paragraph where you stated that Pastor Chris "is way richer than most of the members combine together, and its not our offering or what we give makes him rich,he is truly blessed, and his books,rhapsody of realities alone makes him a multi millionaire,we as nigerians needs men of God who can help build our country,and instill the word of God in our hearts"

Why should Pastor Chris be way richer than most of the members combined together?  Is this how it was done in biblical times?

Was Moses way richer than most of the members combined together?

Are you aware that it is the members that fund raise for the rhapsody of realities copies?  Are you aware that those that want to be great must learn to become servants?  How many feet of the members have Pastor Chris washed?  How many members have he served?

Do you remember in the biblical time that people brought things like their land, homes after selling them?  Are you aware that all this contribution was combined and all the members benefited from the money and substance that was given?  How many Christ Embassy members are partaking of the spoils?

Do you remember when King David won the battle instead of keeping the spoils to himself after being given to it by the members that he shared with all of them?

Do we remember Jesus Christ?  Jesus Christ served the people.  Jesus Christ fed the people.  Any church that does not distribute the offerings and tithings to the members according to their needs is not a true church of God.


It is not the member of the church that fund raise the copies of the rhapsodies of realities, ive been going to christ embassy since i was in university, we started the docklands church together with pastor anita, from stratford to forest gate and to docklands before i moved to nigeria... and talking about men of God, maybe you need to read your bible very well, those who truly serve God will never lack, david is not perfect, but do you know what God called him, he is a man after my heart, pastor chris is not taking up riches for himself, clearly we see the bad of this pastor, but i am telling you his good deeds is way more than what he is been portrayed to the world.

Abraham clearly is one of the richest man in the bible, he gives to kings and prince and he is no saint either, but God does not look through our deeds but our heart,the amount of people God has used pastor chris to change and become a better person is more than the ones that hates him....and pastor does a lot of charities with inner city mission, that has never been published, the amount of kids they feed on daily basis, they provide shelter and education for this kids,he gives back to everyone that he knows they need,he sleeps in his church you can quote me everywhere,he likes fashion and he believes as a christian we are not suppose to suffer,we will face a lot tribulations but as christian he is only preparing us for the greater heights... pls lets not be quick to judge, the 1000 naira they collected was wrong and i am not in support of it, but the good i see in this man of God is more than the bad, rhapsody of realities is in 50 different languages, it has gone beyond the members of the church alone, i see rhapsody of realities in hotels here in the state, among colleagues at work.....and yes they do give a lot out to people and maybe if you try to go to the church couple of times you will see what the church is doing for the less privileged...

One truth I know is that your so-called Christ Embassy members are sending emails online asking for money so they can print out so many copies of Rhapsody of Realities on behalf of Christ Embassy.

Glad to read that you condemn the gate fee option.  Glad to hear that Pastor Chris has done some good works in the past in people's life.  Now go and talk to him to repent of the directions he is taking the Ministry to.

If he was printing the bible in 50 different languages to distribute, I will actually be grateful.  I do not need to see his face and his wife's face all over the hotels either.  I will prefer to see the bible printed by Christ Embassy, that is my humble opinion.

He can feed the poor that is good, but he needs to create sustainable employment and businesses for his members so they will not continue to have needs.

I do not advocate that people that serve God should lack.  I am advocating that regardless of people's position in the church that none of them should lack from the pastors down to the floor cleaner, etc.  They are all serving God are they not?

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- nateskin200 at 12-01-2011 08:01 PM (11 years ago)
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One truth I know is that your so-called Christ Embassy members are sending emails online asking for money so they can print out so many copies of Rhapsody of Realities on behalf of Christ Embassy.

Glad to read that you condemn the gate fee option.  Glad to hear that Pastor Chris has done some good works in the past in people's life.  Now go and talk to him to repent of the directions he is taking the Ministry to.

If he was printing the bible in 50 different languages to distribute, I will actually be grateful.  I do not need to see his face and his wife's face all over the hotels either.  I will prefer to see the bible printed by Christ Embassy, that is my humble opinion.

He can feed the poor that is good, but he needs to create sustainable employment and businesses for his members so they will not continue to have needs.

I do not advocate that people that serve God should lack.  I am advocating that regardless of people's position in the church that none of them should lack from the pastors down to the floor cleaner, etc.  They are all serving God are they not?


I do not need to tell my pastor to repent on the direction he is taking the church to, he is a man of God and there are different levels in christianity, we can not get it right at once, there is a toddler in christianity and there is a babe in christianity, and there is an adult in christianity, everyone makes mistakes and christ embassy member who solicits for money to print rhapsody of realities are doing it for there own good, even if you print bible in 50 different languages people who will not read it will not, and rhapsody of realities is just a guide on how to read the whole bible within a year....

Pastor chris helps people till date and not just in the past, it is what they do everyday in church,and yes on job creations i am pretty sure you do know that to own an international tv station, in england,south africa and in nigeria is part of job creation and that is a lot of jobs for graduates and thousands of people....and i am sure you are aware not everybody comes out with 1st class in there respective course, he cannot help everyone, we as christians has a job to do and its in our hands to be successful in life, i choose not to be pooor and i do make use of the word of God and it works for me, it could work for anybody.....
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