Was Jesus the Actual Son of God? Did He Dies on The Cross ? (Page 11)

Date: 17-01-2011 2:45 pm (11 years ago) | Author: abdul mumin said adana
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- pholake at 16-02-2011 03:39 PM (11 years ago)
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Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.

And what do u say about a verse in the Qu'ran that talks about promise of virgin girls to guys which a lot of your kind are misusing? I still believe it's not worth it!
Can you kindly quote the verse? I ensure you that I will convince you to your own satisfaction?

It's in Suratul Rahaman and u can't convince.....more so, I'm not interested in religious arguments. I've done before and I say: It's not worth it so that one will not end up offending GOD.
Posted: at 16-02-2011 03:39 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 04:13 PM (11 years ago)
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I already gave you an Answer a couple of month or weeks before about this your misunderstanding.
In case you forget here it is for you again:the hadith that you quoted an authentic hadith which can be found In Sirah (History) books under topics discussing about "the death of Prophet Muhammad" (PBUH).
as for the Hadith, here is the transliteration form: Allahumo igfir lii, war hamni, wa alhiknii bi rrafiiki l a'laa. the underlined part is what you are using to justify your false claims; "...LIFT ME TO THE MOST HIGH FRIEND..."
that Hadith is telling about what happens before any Prophet dies that they are all asked to choose between staying alive or going back to The Most High -the creator. in the first instance as you cited, an Angel was doing the questionning and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) answered with prayer so when it was time to take away his-soul, he finally raised His Pure Hand towards the heaven, laid down and passed away. Aisha (RTA) was the one who clearly heard the conversation between Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Angel.
That is what the hadith said and nothing more than that..
ISLAM IS SO SUITE..

SO WHO WERE THEY (PROPHET) REFERRING TO AS THE MOST HIGH FRIEND?Huh?Huh???
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- ajanni at 16-02-2011 09:51 PM (11 years ago)
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dont mind those pegans jesus is a human being.

...you are right...Jesus is a human being...but The Christ in HIM made him extraordinary...

and what makes him extra ordinary ?
Posted: at 16-02-2011 09:51 PM (11 years ago) | Grande Master
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- ajanni at 16-02-2011 10:00 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 03:19 PM
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Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.

And what do u say about a verse in the Qu'ran that talks about promise of virgin girls to guys which a lot of your kind are misusing? I still believe it's not worth it!

where is that verse in the quraan that promise that ? what verse is that ? point it ouit to me now , its just a baseless lies and irresponsible statements hold on to by the enemy of muslim to tarnished us , we muslims , so brings out your evidence nowand point the verse to me --- ok ?
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- ajanni at 17-02-2011 06:56 AM (11 years ago)
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are you also with your sense at all ? you that starked iliterate , i never abuses any one until they abuse me first , and i have every right to replay if i so wish
Posted: at 17-02-2011 06:56 AM (11 years ago) | Grande Master
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- faggo at 17-02-2011 11:33 AM (11 years ago)
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29 segxwally Explicit, Profane and Dirty Stories and Verses in the Bible


   1. Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her. [Judges 16:1]
   2. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. [Genesis 19:33-36]
   3. And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: [Genesis 35:22]
   4. And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. [Genesis 38:2]
   5. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. [Genesis 38:8-9]
   6. When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. [Genesis 38:15-18]
   7. And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister. And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly. And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for he will not withhold me from thee. Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her. [2 Samuel 13:11-14]
   8. So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom went in unto his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel. [2 Samuel 16:22]
   9. Thou hast played the wh*re also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. [Ezekiel 16:28]
  10. And they committed wh*redoms in Egypt; they committed wh*redoms in their youth: there were their Bosom s pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. [Ezekiel 23:3]
  11. And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her wh*redoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her wh*redoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the Bosom s of her virginity, and poured their wh*redom upon her. [Ezekiel 23:5-8]
  12. And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her wh*redoms more than her sister in her wh*redoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her wh*redoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their wh*redom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her wh*redoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her wh*redoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. [Ezekiel 23:11-21]
  13. My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of wh*redoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God. [Hosea 4:12]
  14. I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the wh*redom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled. [Hosea 6:10]
  15. Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. [Hosea 9:1]
  16. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. [Genesis 9:21]
  17. And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets? [1 Samuel 19:24]
  18. Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! [2 Samuel 6:20]
  19. So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. [Isaiah 20:4]
  20. And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding, Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house, In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night: And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him, I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows. Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee. I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed. With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; [Proverbs 7:7-22]
  21. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. [Isaiah 13-15]
  22. And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. [Deuteronomy 22:17]
  23. While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof. A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my Bosom s. [Song of Solomon 1:12-13]
  24. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. [Song of Solomon 4:5]
  25. I am a wall, and my Bosom s like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour. [Song of Solomon 8:10]
  26. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. [Numbers 31:18]
  27. This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy Bosom s to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy Bosom s shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; [Song of Solomon 7:7-8]
  28. And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. [2 Samuel 11:4]
  29. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins. [Song of Solomon 7:3]

To this you call BOOK OF GOD ?
dam !

and yes…if you think we are wrong,pls correct us!
This useless muslims have not yet realized that their demonic allah, mohammed & koran can not be compare with GOD OF ISRAEL, JESUS CHRIST & HOLY BIBLE and that the two are not the same? You can waste all your time reading bible, if HOLY SPIRIT is not there to assist you, you can't understand what you are reading. The fact is that Christianity is spiritual and lead to eternity while islam is physical and will all end here believe it or not.
The same Holy spirit that makes churches to be places for fornication and makes the so called men of God in Europe and many part of the world to be segxwally abusing their church  members, and the same Holy spirit that make most of Christian girls to be walking half naked,finally the same Holy spirit that make the whole Act bishop of the Anglican church in America to be a gay.
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- ganster-kid at 17-02-2011 02:30 PM (11 years ago)
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It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more.
There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.        

 The only problem you ppl have is reading what you don't know and having little or no understanding of what you read. Let me tell you, you can't read the holy book with such negative mind and expect to understand anything.During the baptism of christ, God himself spoke"This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22. Go down and you will find more answers to some of those mind cuddling comments you here about trinity. The trinity doctrine is expressed in verses 16-17. God the Father speaks from heaven, God the Son is baptized, and God the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus. I'm not posting this for you to believe b/c its obvious that your mind is made up, but just  make you realize b/4 you post anything that you are just scampering for lies to dent the Christian world which you know is no longer possible

The bottom-line is u cannot use the corrupted, polluted, contaminated bible as a point of reference, it no longer holds weight for for it has been distorted over centuries and centuries, and what you all read are the words of men and not God. U cannot understand that for you have eyes but u cannot see, you have ears but u cannot hear, uve been brainwashed and besides the few of you tht are saved, the majority will come to know when it is too late.
I pity all of you, for your life of eternal despair awaits you. Islam is the only way. Xtianity is but the biggest lie the world has ever known. Mark my words, whether in this life or the next, you will one day come to know, tht is a promise.


hahahahahahaha, but you can use the terrorist manual called koran

qurran is not like and cannot be compared with a toilet paper called bible , animal ganster

Ajanni, are you educated at all? Try and contribute intellectually citing reasonable references to back up your post, not raining abuses on fellow Naijapals of different religious inclinations.







 you don't know him? he is  from chad, and a terrorist dog  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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- ajanni at 17-02-2011 05:05 PM (11 years ago)
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baboon , son of shameless ashawo woman
Posted: at 17-02-2011 05:05 PM (11 years ago) | Grande Master
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- maffrodisiac at 17-02-2011 05:07 PM (11 years ago)
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Na wah o...... I can see a storm brewing abi na tsunami sef.... Abeg make una take am easy. @ajanni, Jesus Christ is definitely the son of God. Crucifying him was not cruelty. It was cruel yes but it had to be done so that we could be cleansed. the Bible says " He was bruised for our iniquity........ By his stripes we were healed" Jesus had to die so that we could have eternal life. It was a sacrifice which considered worthwhile.
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- maffrodisiac at 17-02-2011 05:11 PM (11 years ago)
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This is a social network. where we make friends not enemies. let us endeavor to stick to issues that not controversial. this is getting out of hands.
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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 08:07 PM (11 years ago)
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Jesus Christ is indeed the only Begotten Son of God. What we need to understand is that we are all Sons and Daughters of God, made in His own likeness and image. Jesus was the PLAN that God used to rescue mankind from our sinful death. God did already know that Adam and Eve was going to disobey and when it happened we start to see His Plans in action. Yes Jesus Christ was murdered and put a Curse for us. The bible let us to know that CURSE is anyone who hanged on a Tree. Jesus walked in obedience to our Heavenly Father Plans and make himself be crucified. Was it because of the Promise of a Kingdom where He would be the one reigning that has Jesus to do it. Or was it because of his love for His Father and the damnation that will be his if he shall sin? All we have to do is learn to LOVE like Jesus so that we can receive our Promise as well. I love Christ so much that I don't see him no longer on the Cross. NO my brother, Lord and Savior, King is sitting beside of our Heavenly Father's throne interceding on my behalf. I am humble that he make himself available to give me freedom from bondage and sins. Yes, He was murdered, so was Able, so was the other prophets before and after Him. Murder for the TRUTH because that is what LIES and DECEPTION (SATAN) gives. Violence and Murder, hatred and Pain.

But the murder of Jesus Christ give him resurrection so that a world who believe, walk in faith, trust, love and forgiveness will be reunited with the Spiritual Father. This murder of Jesus Christ give us the connection which our Spirit yearn for. Only Jesus Christ allow us to have the Spiritual Freedom we seek. We were made as a Spiritual Being sin took it away from us. But the believe and obedience of our Lives to Jesus Christ reconnect it back.

Ajanni my brother don't see it as murder, but see it as how you can be able to live in Love, Forgiveness and Truth. See it as the door to your Spiritual Freedom. See it as your reconnection with the Heavenly Father who is the Spiritual Being and who because of his LOVE for us make this wonderful Plan that Jesus was able to bring to succession. He is the Son of God, the Lamb of God, the only Begotten Son. Begotten means To Raise. I thank the Almighty God for Jesus Christ every day. I thank Jesus for his obedience every day. It is obedience that makes his walk successful and it will be obedience that will make ours successful as well. Hugs and blessings

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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 08:23 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: harakiri on 19-01-2011 08:25 PM
If he did exist, he was a man and nothing but a MAN! Go to Jerusalem which is propagated by the bible story is being the birth place of Jesus and you'll see that most (if not all) of the people there don't believe in him and refer to him as imaginary illusion of the Roman Catholic Vatican.

On a serious note, people need to start educating themselves on what they are really worshiping. Education is not just about struggling to bag degrees.

Indeed Jesus Christ was just a man. One who walk perfectly and obediently to his father's will. Now he as receive the Promise that was given to Him. As for the mentioning of Jerusalem, Jesus was never born in Jerusalem but in Nazareth. Jerusalem in the bible is not the same as the one on earth. Until persons realize that the bible names are parables which illustrate the Heavenly Meanings then they will not understand the truth of who Jesus Christ is and who the Heavenly Father is. We don't worship Jesus Christ and over and over he told us that God is a Spirit, that he is the son of Man. We who are obedient to Jesus Christ know the truth and don't back from the truth. Jesus has to reveal himself to us and if a Saint doesn't allow the Lord to himself then they will not understand that indeed Christ was just a man who walk obediently to his father's will. That our Heavenly Father is the Spirit. That upon Jesus Christ resurrection he receive the glorification of his Father's house the Holy Ghost. Instead of teaching the truth in ignorance teach it in love so that those who think they know can see that they don't. We ought to see Jesus Christ as a man and not as a Spirit. The Children of Israel asked for a Human King 1 Samuel 8 and that is what we receive a Human King. Our Heavenly Father he is the Kings of Kings and Lords of Lords. It is him who we worship and not Christ. John 4:23-24  Christ let us to know that we are to use His name to ask for things. John 14 It is his name that represent the shedding of his Blood. We cannot do anything without his name. This why a lot persons get it mixed up. But we don't nor do we worship Jesus Christ. We pray to the Father and we worship the father. Hugs and blessings

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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 08:30 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 24-01-2011 10:36 AM
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well, the wisdom is made for believers and if you want to know, accept him as ur personal God and savior then ur eyes will open, apart from that follow your damned ways and see where u will end up. plz before i go did  ur  mohammed kill during his time on earth if so , then i think UN should start criminal  investigations  to ware the option of post-Mortem trial against him


Animal will always be an animal. You see, what a shame on you that you manage to response first but you cannot quote any verse from the book you said you are following. Among the fools you are a big fool.
Even though you are full of sentimentality, click on the site below and know who is Muhammad(PBUH).
 Did  Jesus has such a Miracle?? Use sentiment free mind(which you will never do) and judge.
 BANZA JAKI KAWAI..

http://web.archive.org/web/20070703080924/islamyesterday.com/science/statements.htm


Jesus let us to know that men will do far more than what he has done. The Wisdom of God will allow people to do greater and greater things. Don't go to this level but instead reason with intelligence so that others can be able to learn from you. Science will continue to do things because it is one of the technology that is continue to be us to fool the world. Never forget that Scientists are the first to say the world evolved. Hugs and blessings

Posted: at 17-02-2011 08:30 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 08:51 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 26-01-2011 11:14 AM
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@abduuul

Go ahead and show me in the Holy Bible where Mohammed was specifically mentioned by Christ...and I will show you a number of founders of religion who have claimed the same verse was attributed to them...
You guys should quit using the Old Testament for criticism...God deals with people according to dispensation or age... The Old testament as I have said to yous somewhere is used as emphasis.

WE (Christians) live in a new dispensation...age...convenant...not Old...


As for what is said about Muhammad(PBUH) not being mention in the Torah and Gospel is a blatant lie. Christians and jews have hidden the facts regarding Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) in there respective Scriptures. ALLAH says:

O People of the scripture: Why do you mix truth with the falsehood and conceal the truth while you know? Qur'an [3:71]
 He also says:
O People of the scripture! Now has come to you Our Messenger explaining to you much of that which you used to hide from the Scripture and pass over much. Indeed, there has come to you from Allah a light and a plain Book. Wherewith Allah guides all those who seek His Pleasure to ways of peace, and He brings them out of darkness by His Will unto light and guides to the Straight Way. Qur'an [5:15-16]

The great differences between the four gospels clearly demonstrate that the Bible has been changed and distorted, a fact which is known to the people of knowledge.Otherwise, how could the story of crucifixion of Jesus be mentioned with events of his resurrection from the grave after three days, and other information which is inconceivable? What can be said about this, is that it is from the word of his disciples.
Christians scholars distorted and interpreted the Gospels as they wished. That is why there are four gospels, and each differs from the other! The Christians admits that the gospels were authored by four known men during their times. It is said that the gospel of Matthew was written by the disciples of Jesus, Matthew,nine years after Jesus was raised to the Heavens, in Hebrew. It is further said that the gospel of Mark was written by one Mark of Aaron twenty three years after Jesus was raised to the Heavens, and in Greek. John is thought to have written his Gospel  sixty three years after Jesus was raised to the Heavens, also in Greek. Luke was a doctor in Anatolia, a disciples of Simon, and is  said to have written his Gospel after Mark wrote his.

It is intellectually impossible that these Gospels have not mentioned the final prophet! These Gospels talk about matters of minor importance and do not talk about a major event and important issue? So how can the Bible not have a mention of our Prophet, his name and his lifestyle?
Among the Passages from the Bible which prove the Prophet hood of Muhammad are the following:
1   Isaiah 29:12  " And if the document is given to one who cannot read and he is asked to read it,he will say: 'I can't read."
Who is this who cannot read other than Muhammad?

Allah says:
Those who follow the Messenger, the prophet who an neither read nor write whom they find written with them in the Torah and the Gospel... Qur'an[7:157]

There are many Prophecies in relation to the prophet Muhammad in the Torah, i do not want to mention all these passeges; rather my goal is to encourage people to search for the truth themselves.
2. John 14:30 " I cannot speak with you much longer,because the ruler of the world is coming." Who is the 'ruler of this world after Jesus except Muhammad?
The Message was sealed with him, and he was given the complete Shari' ah which suits all times and places.
3. The Jews sent Priests to him to find out who he was.'He confessed, " I am not the Christ." And they asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" And He said : "I am not ." Are you that prophet?' And he answered, "No"....And they said to him :"Why do you baptize then, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor that Prophet?'(John 1:20-25).

'That Prophet' is not Jesus, but Muhammad(PBUH) , because John the baptist continued preaching and baptizing and foretelling the coming of the Prophet during the life time of Jesus.

4. The Prophet Jesus foretold the coming of another prophet, whose name would be 'Periqlytos' or 'Paraclete' or 'Paracalon' and who (that is,whose teaching) would last forever, 'I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter (Periqlytos), that he may abide with you forever.'(John XIV,16).

The word Periqlytos means 'illustrious, 'renowned' and 'Praiseworthy' and this is exactly what the 'Ahmad' means. It is confirmed in the Qur'an that the Prophet Jesus did prophesize that a Prophet named 'Ahmad' would come after him.
 Allah, the Exalted, says:
  And remember when Jesus the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and given glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad. Qur 'an(61:6)

5.  In the gospels of john, Mark and Matthew it state:
  'Even though I came first, I am not good enough to untie his sandals.'(John 1:27)

John also told the people ,"After me, one will come who is more Powerful than I am. I'm not good enough to bend down and untie his sandals."( Mark 1:7).
  This Prophecy is not of Jesus(A.s) for he was alive during the life of John, they lived together, and were of similar age.

Finally, I call people to study and research, and I am sure if one researches while he leaves aside all prejudices and preconceived notions, he will come to the conclusion that there is no god worthy of being worshipped except Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
 

What a way to fit the Word of God to suit your purpose. Just the way how Satan work when he was tempting our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Now John the Baptist was the final messenger for God's Kingdom presently we are living under the Kingdom of Christ 1 Cor 15:24. A messenger is a Prophet and he was the final Prophet for our Heavenly Father. Malachi 3 let us to know this. When he said that there will be one more powerful he was talking about Jesus Christ.

What the Lord was talking about in Isaiah 29 was to show the Children of Israel how they allow men to teach them wrongfully as you are now doing. Instead of drawing to the Lord and allow him to teach them, they draw to men who lead them down the road of unrighteousness and sin. My advice to you is to draw to Jesus Christ so that he teach you the truth through the Holy Ghost.

Now you quote where Jesus said the ruler of the world is coming. Don't you know that the ruler of the world is Satan 2 Cor 4:4 cemented it. Now you said it is Mohummad simple means that your Prophet was an Agent for the Devil. OMG you just give the evidence that some of us already know. Hugs and blessings

Posted: at 17-02-2011 08:51 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 09:03 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on  2-02-2011 12:11 AM
Quote from: faggo on  1-02-2011 02:28 PM
But I read it in the Bible that Jesus is a servant of God.

thats quite true ,
me too , i came across where jesus said , why callest me GOD?

Indeed Jesus Christ was a Servant to His Father. Yes he asked this question because he wanted them to know that He was not God. He also told them that there is ONE GREATER THAN I. Which simple means that God is greater than Him. Anyway going to the Servant, we are all servants to our Parents etc because we serve them. So Jesus was serving his Father by doing our Heavenly Father's Will. Hugs and blessings

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- DELAT at 17-02-2011 09:09 PM (11 years ago)
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Na wa o.I want you all,to read the bible very well and open yr mind you will know that Islam is ultimate
Posted: at 17-02-2011 09:09 PM (11 years ago) | Upcoming
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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 09:19 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: ganster-kid on  4-02-2011 03:43 PM
Quote from: BONZ on  4-02-2011 02:18 PM
It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more.
There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.        

The only thing wrong with what Bono wrote is that it is Blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. We who are called by the Almighty and given to his only Begotten Son are all Sons of God. Jesus NEVER EVER CLAIMS TO BE THE SON OF GOD. Instead He continue to referred himself as the SON OF MAN. He never told anyone that he is God. Instead he let us to know that God is a Spirit. He let us to know that there is one GREATER THAN I. He pray to the Heavenly Father by using the word Father. When he speak he uses the words Father or God. It is time Christians stop walking by Sight and allow the Holy Ghost to give them the Power of God so that they can know the TRUTH. Gangster kid stop talking after your Pastors teachers and instead go and build your one and one relationship with your Lord and Savior. You will be enlightened to discover a lot that will make you to rejoice. Hugs and blessings



 The only problem you ppl have is reading what you don't know and having little or no understanding of what you read. Let me tell you, you can't read the holy book with such negative mind and expect to understand anything.During the baptism of christ, God himself spoke"This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22. Go down and you will find more answers to some of those mind cuddling comments you here about trinity. The trinity doctrine is expressed in verses 16-17. God the Father speaks from heaven, God the Son is baptized, and God the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus. I'm not posting this for you to believe b/c its obvious that your mind is made up, but just  make you realize b/4 you post anything that you are just scampering for lies to dent the Christian world which you know is no longer possible

Posted: at 17-02-2011 09:19 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 09:45 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 02:47 PM

Jesus, Fully God and Fully Man: Jesus Christ, the Son of God and second person of the Trinity, is God.  He is of the same essence as the Father and equal to him.  At just the right time, according to the predestined plan of God, the eternal Son became a man.  He was made like us in every way, except for his sinlessness.  He was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary.  This union of the divine and human made Jesus forever both God and man in one person.  He is fully God and fully man.  Jesus Christ, the only mediator between God and man, was, and is, fully God and fully man.  (John 1:1-14, Romans 1:1-4, John 3:16, Matthew 28:18-20, John 14:5-14, John 10:22-39, Galatians 4:1-7, Hebrews 4:14-16, Luke 1:26-38, Matthew 1:18-24, 1 Timothy 2:5-6).

lol lol You have me laughing. Jesus Christ is fully man and the only Begotten Son of God. The WORD was God and Jesus was the representative of the Word. The Spirit that was inside of the World was God himself who was rejected by the Children of Israel and not Jesus Christ. Wisdom was who in the Bosom of God and not Jesus Christ. Stop quoting verses that are contrary to what you are talking about. Which TRINITY are you talking about? There are only Two that is linked to our Heavenly Father and it is Holy Ghost (Jesus Christ) and the Power of God (God Himself). Now the Holy Ghost that we baptized is WISDOM that enable us to read our bible and give us the POWER OF GOD (Spirit of Truth) that lives in us and not inside of World. But the Holy Ghost is inside of world. Tell me where this lying TRINITY is because it is the Father and Son that made up the Holy Ghost. That is 2 and not 3. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit that represent the two in our lives.

Even the Holy Spirit that you are talking about none of us are living with it. The Last person to receive this is Jesus Christ upon his baptism because of the divorcement of the Covenant between the Children of Israel and God. God doesn't believe in adultery and this is why His only BEGOTTEN SON is reigning. We under the New Covenant receive the Holy Ghost and Power of God (Fire) Acts 2 and 2 Corin 13:4. To receive the Power of God all ungodliness have to leave our bodies. Obedience to the teaching of Christ is the key to have this and a lot of CHRISTIANS are lacking where this is concern.

Empty yourself of all the false teaching you have receive and go build your one and one relationship with Christ so that HE can reveal to you who he is. John 14:21. Please to use a Kings James Version because even the Lord himself is rejecting the New Translation Bibles which are conformed to the world and their lying teachings.

Posted: at 17-02-2011 09:45 PM (11 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ksurrina at 17-02-2011 09:52 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 16-02-2011 09:51 PM
Quote from: chik001 on 15-02-2011 06:17 PM
Quote from: reality2 on 15-02-2011 08:15 AM
dont mind those pegans jesus is a human being.

...you are right...Jesus is a human being...but The Christ in HIM made him extraordinary...

and what makes him extra ordinary ?

His divine blood and his obedience to our Heavenly Father that is what makes Jesus Christ to be extraordinary. What He has done as allowed and inspired people like your prophet to deceive others in following them. Those who study Jesus Christ truly find out that he was just a man who was being obedient to the Spirit within Him (Holy Spirit). After seeing this they turn from the path of righteousness and go build themselves as an empire using the same principles but rewording it in their own ways. This as cause a lot of souls now in condemnation because they walk in ignorance as was written in Isaiah 29. Our Salvation depends on us and it is time people stop argue and find the TRUTH so they can died in faith and rise in Hope. Hugs and blessings

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- ajanni at 18-02-2011 09:20 AM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: maffrodisiac on 17-02-2011 05:11 PM
This is a social network. where we make friends not enemies. let us endeavor to stick to issues that not controversial. this is getting out of hands.

alright ooo
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