Was Jesus the Actual Son of God? Did He Dies on The Cross ? (Page 10)

Date: 17-01-2011 2:45 pm (11 years ago) | Author: abdul mumin said adana
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- Alabiniyi at 16-02-2011 12:40 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....
Pholake pls, don't make mistakes. No body can condemn Christians bcos it is from God of Israel but every other religions and their followers are condemned already bcos they reject the only begotten son of God (Jesus). Look at these facts again (1) allah of muslims is not the same as I AM THAT I AM GOD of Israel (and of Christians) (2)mohammed is a slave of allah ( a slave that can never gain freedom but Jesus is a Son of the LIVING GOD (3)Don't compare koran with BIBLE bcos it(koran) is not genuine. That's why they (muslims) can never have peace.
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- Alabiniyi at 16-02-2011 12:55 PM (11 years ago)
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dont mind those pegans jesus is a human being.

You are already in hell fire, by the way, what do you know about hell fire? Let me tell you, your mohammed is already there waiting to receive you & all muslims. ABOKI



.... point of correction you isa is human but my Jesus is Lord , i don't know what you really wanted to say. If we have pegans here i think they should be ppl that honor the will of their god by spilling innocent blood. how can true god order you to go kill ppl b/c they don't  believe in your religion? do you think at all? and the promise of seven maiden in heaven, how can you believe all these yrash as truth? are you daft?
If you Die you will believe. By then you go directly to the hell fire.
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 01:46 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 01:50 PM (11 years ago)
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29 segxwally Explicit, Profane and Dirty Stories and Verses in the Bible


   1. Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her. [Judges 16:1]
   2. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. [Genesis 19:33-36]
   3. And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: [Genesis 35:22]
   4. And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. [Genesis 38:2]
   5. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. [Genesis 38:8-9]
   6. When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. [Genesis 38:15-18]
   7. And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister. And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly. And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for he will not withhold me from thee. Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her. [2 Samuel 13:11-14]
   8. So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom went in unto his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel. [2 Samuel 16:22]
   9. Thou hast played the wh*re also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. [Ezekiel 16:28]
  10. And they committed wh*redoms in Egypt; they committed wh*redoms in their youth: there were their Bosom s pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. [Ezekiel 23:3]
  11. And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her wh*redoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her wh*redoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the Bosom s of her virginity, and poured their wh*redom upon her. [Ezekiel 23:5-8]
  12. And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her wh*redoms more than her sister in her wh*redoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her wh*redoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their wh*redom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her wh*redoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her wh*redoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. [Ezekiel 23:11-21]
  13. My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of wh*redoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God. [Hosea 4:12]
  14. I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the wh*redom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled. [Hosea 6:10]
  15. Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. [Hosea 9:1]
  16. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. [Genesis 9:21]
  17. And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets? [1 Samuel 19:24]
  18. Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! [2 Samuel 6:20]
  19. So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. [Isaiah 20:4]
  20. And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding, Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house, In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night: And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him, I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows. Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee. I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed. With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; [Proverbs 7:7-22]
  21. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. [Isaiah 13-15]
  22. And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. [Deuteronomy 22:17]
  23. While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof. A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my Bosom s. [Song of Solomon 1:12-13]
  24. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. [Song of Solomon 4:5]
  25. I am a wall, and my Bosom s like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour. [Song of Solomon 8:10]
  26. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. [Numbers 31:18]
  27. This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy Bosom s to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy Bosom s shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; [Song of Solomon 7:7-8]
  28. And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. [2 Samuel 11:4]
  29. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins. [Song of Solomon 7:3]

To this you call BOOK OF GOD ?
dam !

and yes…if you think we are wrong,pls correct us!
This useless muslims have not yet realized that their demonic allah, mohammed & koran can not be compare with GOD OF ISRAEL, JESUS CHRIST & HOLY BIBLE and that the two are not the same? You can waste all your time reading bible, if HOLY SPIRIT is not there to assist you, you can't understand what you are reading. The fact is that Christianity is spiritual and lead to eternity while islam is physical and will all end here believe it or not.
This will Only Increase my effort to go and have more research on this Useless Book(Remember you call my own useless) and come here to proof you wrong . expect more.....
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 01:58 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

If you trace back, you will find out that it is your christian brothers that start insulting our religion. When ever you see this kind of reaction from us, you will find out that it is you that start it. So far They did not stop insulting our prophet and religion, we too will continue to do so. If they respect our Religion, we will do so for them. But trying to insult me and my religion, and calling us a Terrorist will not be a solution for them but will only worsen the matter. So tell them to stop  so that we will also stop.
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 02:12 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 01:46 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.

abdul i tell u d truth u may read Bible as much as u know but never will u understand any words cos u see it as an ordinary book if u do not forsake ur evil ways and accept Jesus as ur Lord and saviour THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT will come upon u there u will be inspire, and  u will again wisdom to know God better apart from that ur wasting ur time
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 02:28 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 01:58 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

If you trace back, you will find out that it is your christian brothers that start insulting our religion. When ever you see this kind of reaction from us, you will find out that it is you that start it. So far They did not stop insulting our prophet and religion, we too will continue to do so. If they respect our Religion, we will do so for them. But trying to insult me and my religion, and calling us a Terrorist will not be a solution for them but will only worsen the matter. So tell them to stop  so that we will also stop.

insult or on insult they are telling u the truth and u are seeing it as an insult i  have not seen any thing like that sha


all i know is that mohammed is a prophet a friend of Jesus whom Jesus has paid his debt of sin and made him become the son of God through the blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross. so there is no too ways about this when we tell u pple d truth u became very aggressive started killing our pple is not just right at all inform them to stop all that and repent for there is heaven and there is hell fire it's true believe me
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 02:36 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: Alabiniyi on 16-02-2011 12:40 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....
Pholake pls, don't make mistakes. No body can condemn Christians bcos it is from God of Israel but every other religions and their followers are condemned already bcos they reject the only begotten son of God (Jesus). Look at these facts again (1) allah of muslims is not the same as I AM THAT I AM GOD of Israel (and of Christians) (2)mohammed is a slave of allah ( a slave that can never gain freedom but Jesus is a Son of the LIVING GOD (3)Don't compare koran with BIBLE bcos it(koran) is not genuine. That's why they (muslims) can never have peace.
On this I left it for the people to judge between the two books. Bible has so many contradictions and counter verses while Qur'an has no single contradiction in it. Which among the two is genuine?. You are so selfish. I said it time without number that Muslims will not initiate whatever you think of unless if they are touched. You will never see a single mistake in Islam you like it or not. I AM VERY(WITHOUT NUMBER) PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM AND I WILL DIE AS A MUSLIM INSHA ALLAH.
I will Pray for all of you to see the truth and follow it before your appointed time. And it is destined that you will not see the truth, In the day of judgment you will remember my statement. TO YOU YOUR RELIGION AND TO US OUR OWN
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 02:41 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 02:12 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 01:46 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.

abdul i tell u d truth u may read Bible as much as u know but never will u understand any words cos u see it as an ordinary book if u do not forsake ur evil ways and accept Jesus as ur Lord and saviour THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT will come upon u there u will be inspire, and  u will again wisdom to know God better apart from that ur wasting ur time
I WILL DIE AS A MUSLIM.. NEVER ASSOCIATE ME WITH THAT AGAIN. AM WORKING WITH THE REALITY AND PROOFS FROM THE BOOK OF ALLAH(THE QUR'AN). MUHAMMAD IS THE MASSENGER OF ALLAH.
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 02:47 PM (11 years ago)
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Jesus, Fully God and Fully Man: Jesus Christ, the Son of God and second person of the Trinity, is God.  He is of the same essence as the Father and equal to him.  At just the right time, according to the predestined plan of God, the eternal Son became a man.  He was made like us in every way, except for his sinlessness.  He was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary.  This union of the divine and human made Jesus forever both God and man in one person.  He is fully God and fully man.  Jesus Christ, the only mediator between God and man, was, and is, fully God and fully man.  (John 1:1-14, Romans 1:1-4, John 3:16, Matthew 28:18-20, John 14:5-14, John 10:22-39, Galatians 4:1-7, Hebrews 4:14-16, Luke 1:26-38, Matthew 1:18-24, 1 Timothy 2:5-6).
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 02:50 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 02:28 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 01:58 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

If you trace back, you will find out that it is your christian brothers that start insulting our religion. When ever you see this kind of reaction from us, you will find out that it is you that start it. So far They did not stop insulting our prophet and religion, we too will continue to do so. If they respect our Religion, we will do so for them. But trying to insult me and my religion, and calling us a Terrorist will not be a solution for them but will only worsen the matter. So tell them to stop  so that we will also stop.

insult or on insult they are telling u the truth and u are seeing it as an insult i  have not seen any thing like that sha


all i know is that mohammed is a prophet a friend of Jesus whom Jesus has paid his debt of sin and made him become the son of God through the blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross. so there is no too ways about this when we tell u pple d truth u became very aggressive started killing our pple is not just right at all inform them to stop all that and repent for there is heaven and there is hell fire it's true believe me
Do not create lie and associate it with our prophet. Just take at look at your statement in blue. We never associate lie to you, that is why we are quoting from your scripture. And to tell me that I did not understand your book is a mere deception of your self. Go back and re read your book it is you that did not understand. Am sure if ask your pastor, he will not give you answer to your satisfaction about all of our saying. Please Hold your Religion am not Interested I already secured Islam. It is already too late.
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 02:50 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 02:41 PM
Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 02:12 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 01:46 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.

abdul i tell u d truth u may read Bible as much as u know but never will u understand any words cos u see it as an ordinary book if u do not forsake ur evil ways and accept Jesus as ur Lord and saviour THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT will come upon u there u will be inspire, and  u will again wisdom to know God better apart from that ur wasting ur time
I WILL DIE AS A MUSLIM.. NEVER ASSOCIATE ME WITH THAT AGAIN. AM WORKING WITH THE REALITY AND PROOFS FROM THE BOOK OF ALLAH(THE QUR'AN). MUHAMMAD IS THE MASSENGER OF ALLAH.
it's ur choice and as u want it so shall it be in Jesus name  amen
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 02:57 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 02:50 PM
Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 02:28 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 01:58 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

If you trace back, you will find out that it is your christian brothers that start insulting our religion. When ever you see this kind of reaction from us, you will find out that it is you that start it. So far They did not stop insulting our prophet and religion, we too will continue to do so. If they respect our Religion, we will do so for them. But trying to insult me and my religion, and calling us a Terrorist will not be a solution for them but will only worsen the matter. So tell them to stop  so that we will also stop.

insult or on insult they are telling u the truth and u are seeing it as an insult i  have not seen any thing like that sha


all i know is that mohammed is a prophet a friend of Jesus whom Jesus has paid his debt of sin and made him become the son of God through the blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross. so there is no too ways about this when we tell u pple d truth u became very aggressive started killing our pple is not just right at all inform them to stop all that and repent for there is heaven and there is hell fire it's true believe me
Do not create lie and associate it with our prophet. Just take at look at your statement in blue. We never associate lie to you, that is why we are quoting from your scripture. And to tell me that I did not understand your book is a mere deception of your self. Go back and re read your book it is you that did not understand. Am sure if ask your pastor, he will not give you answer to your satisfaction about all of our saying. Please Hold your Religion am not Interested I already secured Islam. It is already too late.
so sorry for you cos u will cry and u will not see who to console u
 Second Coming: We believe in the visible, bodily return of Christ Jesus to this earth, to meet His Church (Bride) and to judge the world (Acts 1:10,11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10; James 5:8; Revelation 1:7).
Judgment: God has appointed a day when he will judge the world with perfect justice through Jesus Christ, to whom he has given all power and authority.  On that day the fallen angels will be judged as well as everyone who has ever lived on the earth.  All must appear before the judgment seat of Christ to give account for everything they have done (their thoughts, words, and actions) while they lived on the earth.  The Lord Jesus will give his unchangeable verdict on that day, forever sealing the destinies of everyone.  The wicked will be sent into the Lake of Fire to experience eternal torment, while the righteous, those whom Jesus purchased on the cross, will be rewarded and will enter into eternal life  (John 5:24-30, Jude 5-7, 2 Corinthians 5:6-10, 1 Corinthians 4:1-5, Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 20:11-15). 
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 03:04 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 02:47 PM

Jesus, Fully God and Fully Man: Jesus Christ, the Son of God and second person of the Trinity, is God.  He is of the same essence as the Father and equal to him.  At just the right time, according to the predestined plan of God, the eternal Son became a man.  He was made like us in every way, except for his sinlessness.  He was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary.  This union of the divine and human made Jesus forever both God and man in one person.  He is fully God and fully man.  Jesus Christ, the only mediator between God and man, was, and is, fully God and fully man.  (John 1:1-14, Romans 1:1-4, John 3:16, Matthew 28:18-20, John 14:5-14, John 10:22-39, Galatians 4:1-7, Hebrews 4:14-16, Luke 1:26-38, Matthew 1:18-24, 1 Timothy 2:5-6).
This is the kind of problems we are telling you people., Jesus DID NOT claim to be God - or even equal to God! did he?
And that Mediator means the messenger of God, and that is what Muslims said.
There is no word "Trinity" in the Bible in any version of any language.
How can God be a man?
How can a man be a God?
How can God have a son?
Jesus did not even carry the cross --  Simon Cyre'ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21]
All the above Remains unanswered to all Christians. why? can you kindly ask any pastor from your site?
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 03:07 PM (11 years ago)
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wether u believe it or not the blood of JESUS has wash all of u from ur sinful ways but it's a must that u confess him (Jesus) as ur lORD AND SAVIOUR else u pple will never be part of this freedom. i no very well about mohammed a prophet of God when he wanted to die he call on Jesus most high friend he knew quiet well who Jesus is for him and that is the reason keep quoting bible as much as u can i bet u, u'll never understand the true meaning.

 The prayer of Muhammad (pbuh) before his death: "Oh God, forgive me, have mercy upon me and contact me to the Most High Friend." (Hadiths Shahih Bukari 1573). Then he lifted up his hand saying, "The Most High Friend.", then his hand laid down and he passed away. (Bukari 1574).

Who is this Most High Friend, Muhammad (pbuh) called upon at his death? "I am closer to Jesus the son of Mary in this earth and heaven." (Hadiths Shahih Bukari 1501). Yes, the Most High Friend whom Muhammad called upon in his last moments was Jesus/Isa (pbuh)!

I plead with you today in a world that has lost much of its sanity to consider this:

It is not an accident that your eyes have found this article, God/Allah has directed
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- enoeno at 16-02-2011 03:12 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 03:04 PM
Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 02:47 PM

Jesus, Fully God and Fully Man: Jesus Christ, the Son of God and second person of the Trinity, is God.  He is of the same essence as the Father and equal to him.  At just the right time, according to the predestined plan of God, the eternal Son became a man.  He was made like us in every way, except for his sinlessness.  He was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary.  This union of the divine and human made Jesus forever both God and man in one person.  He is fully God and fully man.  Jesus Christ, the only mediator between God and man, was, and is, fully God and fully man.  (John 1:1-14, Romans 1:1-4, John 3:16, Matthew 28:18-20, John 14:5-14, John 10:22-39, Galatians 4:1-7, Hebrews 4:14-16, Luke 1:26-38, Matthew 1:18-24, 1 Timothy 2:5-6).
This is the kind of problems we are telling you people., Jesus DID NOT claim to be God - or even equal to God! did he?
And that Mediator means the messenger of God, and that is what Muslims said.
There is no word "Trinity" in the Bible in any version of any language.
How can God be a man?
How can a man be a God?
How can God have a son?
Jesus did not even carry the cross --  Simon Cyre'ne, a passerby did! [Mk 15:21]
All the above Remains unanswered to all Christians. why? can you kindly ask any pastor from your site?


the problem u pple is having is that u lack simple understanding my bible tells me that pple perish for lack of knowledge and it's exactly what is affecting u and u will never understand more than that serious am not going to talk about or answer u although i have d answers cos u will criticise it more what a pity on u??
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 03:13 PM (11 years ago)
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Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

If you trace back, you will find out that it is your christian brothers that start insulting our religion. When ever you see this kind of reaction from us, you will find out that it is you that start it. So far They did not stop insulting our prophet and religion, we too will continue to do so. If they respect our Religion, we will do so for them. But trying to insult me and my religion, and calling us a Terrorist will not be a solution for them but will only worsen the matter. So tell them to stop  so that we will also stop.

insult or on insult they are telling u the truth and u are seeing it as an insult i  have not seen any thing like that sha


all i know is that mohammed is a prophet a friend of Jesus whom Jesus has paid his debt of sin and made him become the son of God through the blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross. so there is no too ways about this when we tell u pple d truth u became very aggressive started killing our pple is not just right at all inform them to stop all that and repent for there is heaven and there is hell fire it's true believe me
Do not create lie and associate it with our prophet. Just take at look at your statement in blue. We never associate lie to you, that is why we are quoting from your scripture. And to tell me that I did not understand your book is a mere deception of your self. Go back and re read your book it is you that did not understand. Am sure if ask your pastor, he will not give you answer to your satisfaction about all of our saying. Please Hold your Religion am not Interested I already secured Islam. It is already too late.
so sorry for you cos u will cry and u will not see who to console u
 Second Coming: We believe in the visible, bodily return of Christ Jesus to this earth, to meet His Church (Bride) and to judge the world (Acts 1:10,11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10; James 5:8; Revelation 1:7).
Judgment: God has appointed a day when he will judge the world with perfect justice through Jesus Christ, to whom he has given all power and authority.  On that day the fallen angels will be judged as well as everyone who has ever lived on the earth.  All must appear before the judgment seat of Christ to give account for everything they have done (their thoughts, words, and actions) while they lived on the earth.  The Lord Jesus will give his unchangeable verdict on that day, forever sealing the destinies of everyone.  The wicked will be sent into the Lake of Fire to experience eternal torment, while the righteous, those whom Jesus purchased on the cross, will be rewarded and will enter into eternal life  (John 5:24-30, Jude 5-7, 2 Corinthians 5:6-10, 1 Corinthians 4:1-5, Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 20:11-15). 

In the Day of Judgment we shall see who is who. And I pray to Allah to show me more of his guidance in Islam and to guide any one that is really seeking for the truth not what he came and meet his parent are practicing. I thank God that My parent are Muslims. If for example I met my parent as not Muslim(God forbid) I would have leave them and embrace Islam. Thank God For all of us already Muslims.
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- pholake at 16-02-2011 03:19 PM (11 years ago)
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Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.

And what do u say about a verse in the Qu'ran that talks about promise of virgin girls to guys which a lot of your kind are misusing? I still believe it's not worth it!
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 03:24 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: enoeno on 16-02-2011 03:07 PM
wether u believe it or not the blood of JESUS has wash all of u from ur sinful ways but it's a must that u confess him (Jesus) as ur lORD AND SAVIOUR else u pple will never be part of this freedom. i no very well about mohammed a prophet of God when he wanted to die he call on Jesus most high friend he knew quiet well who Jesus is for him and that is the reason keep quoting bible as much as u can i bet u, u'll never understand the true meaning.

 The prayer of Muhammad (pbuh) before his death: "Oh God, forgive me, have mercy upon me and contact me to the Most High Friend." (Hadiths Shahih Bukari 1573). Then he lifted up his hand saying, "The Most High Friend.", then his hand laid down and he passed away. (Bukari 1574).

Who is this Most High Friend, Muhammad (pbuh) called upon at his death? "I am closer to Jesus the son of Mary in this earth and heaven." (Hadiths Shahih Bukari 1501). Yes, the Most High Friend whom Muhammad called upon in his last moments was Jesus/Isa (pbuh)!

I plead with you today in a world that has lost much of its sanity to consider this:

It is not an accident that your eyes have found this article, God/Allah has directed

I already gave you an Answer a couple of month or weeks before about this your misunderstanding.
In case you forget here it is for you again:the hadith that you quoted an authentic hadith which can be found In Sirah (History) books under topics discussing about "the death of Prophet Muhammad" (PBUH).
as for the Hadith, here is the transliteration form: Allahumo igfir lii, war hamni, wa alhiknii bi rrafiiki l a'laa. the underlined part is what you are using to justify your false claims; "...LIFT ME TO THE MOST HIGH FRIEND..."
that Hadith is telling about what happens before any Prophet dies that they are all asked to choose between staying alive or going back to The Most High -the creator. in the first instance as you cited, an Angel was doing the questionning and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) answered with prayer so when it was time to take away his-soul, he finally raised His Pure Hand towards the heaven, laid down and passed away. Aisha (RTA) was the one who clearly heard the conversation between Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Angel.
That is what the hadith said and nothing more than that..
ISLAM IS SO SUITE..
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- abduuul at 16-02-2011 03:31 PM (11 years ago)
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Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 03:19 PM
Quote from: abduuul on 16-02-2011 01:46 PM
Quote from: pholake on 16-02-2011 12:05 PM
Why would somebody spend so much time condemning the belief of another? Is condemnation the best way to preach ur religion? I tire ooooo....

Proof me wrong from that. I am not condemning your religion as you see it. All what I have said is from the bible. you should not blame me but blame those that come up with the verses.

And what do u say about a verse in the Qu'ran that talks about promise of virgin girls to guys which a lot of your kind are misusing? I still believe it's not worth it!
Can you kindly quote the verse? I ensure you that I will convince you to your own satisfaction?
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