Was Jesus the Actual Son of God? Did He Dies on The Cross ? (Page 13)

Date: 17-01-2011 2:45 pm (11 years ago) | Author: abdul mumin said adana
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- Celestial1 at 15-03-2011 10:34 PM (10 years ago)
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Jesus was actually the son of God, just like every single male on the planet is actually the son of God.  Death is death, whether cruel or not, it leads to the same end.   He rose from it though, so he conquered death and one may say he never truly died, but just went to sleep.  Like Enoch, Elijah and possibly Moses they all conquered death, none met a physical death as we know it.  Moses is not for sure, but it is highly possible he also did not die.
Posted: at 15-03-2011 10:34 PM (10 years ago) | Upcoming
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- harold634 at 16-03-2011 11:04 AM (10 years ago)
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JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND JESUS IS GOD HIMSELF BUT HE IS NOT THE FATHER. THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT ARE ONE (GOD). THE BOOK OF JOHN 1: 1-14 U WILL DISCOVER THAT, IN THE BEGINING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS GOD, JESUS IS THE WORD AND THE SCRIPTURE WENT FURTHER TO EXPLAIN THAT THE WORD BECAME FLESH AND DUELS AMONG US. JESUS SAID TO HIS DISCIPLE WHY DID U WANT ME TO SHOW THE FATHER WHEN HE IS RIGHT HERE WITH U ALL, HE SAID ANYONE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER. WHEN JESUS RESURRECT FROM GRAVE AND APPEAR TO HIS DISCIPLE, HE TOLD DOUBTING THOMAS TO FEEL THE HOLE OF HIS HAND WHERE THE NAILS PENETRATED THROUGH AND THOMAS FEEL IT AND SHOUT MY LORD AND MY GOD, JESUS COULD HAVE SAID DON'T CALL ME GOD CAUSE I'M NOT GOD.  GOD CREATED HELL FOR PURPOSE OF DEVIL. DEATH AND HELL WILL LATER BE CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. JESUS HAS BROUGHT THE GOOD KNEWS TO THE WHOLE WORLD BUT LIFE IS A CHOICE. EVERY HUMAN BEING CAN DECIDE TO WORK UPRIGHT WITH GOD OR CHOOSE THE DEVIL PART OF LIFE. THOSE WHO HAVE EARS LET THEM HERE WHAT THE SPIRIT IS SAYING.
Posted: at 16-03-2011 11:04 AM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 17-03-2011 06:48 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: Celestial1 on 15-03-2011 10:34 PM
Jesus was actually the son of God, just like every single male on the planet is actually the son of God.  Death is death, whether cruel or not, it leads to the same end.   He rose from it though, so he conquered death and one may say he never truly died, but just went to sleep.  Like Enoch, Elijah and possibly Moses they all conquered death, none met a physical death as we know it.  Moses is not for sure, but it is highly possible he also did not die.

you said he never truly died and still you believe he is dead , what a great contradiction here? he went to sleep ? in wgose house ? like you don,t really knows what you are saying
Posted: at 17-03-2011 06:48 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- Celestial1 at 17-03-2011 07:54 PM (10 years ago)
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It has to sound contradictory because the very situation contradicts all logic.  How many ppl do you personally know who you know died and buried walking around a few days later?    Jesus himself said he was asleep, so I am using his own words in describing that experience, if he said he was simply sleeping, who am I to say he really was dead....LOL.    The use of the term death in our physical world means lack of a heart beat, so based on the physical world he was dead, in his own words,  he was asleep.  Make of it what you will, or ask the Creator for a divine interpretation which always yield the only true answer.
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- ajanni at 18-03-2011 12:24 AM (10 years ago)
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so jesus was walking around freely after being burried ? who saw him and who attest to that ? no wonder thats why they called you peoples wandering animals that know not why they were created
Posted: at 18-03-2011 12:24 AM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- Celestial1 at 18-03-2011 02:56 AM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 18-03-2011 12:24 AM
so jesus was walking around freely after being burried ? who saw him and who attest to that ? no wonder thats why they called you peoples wandering animals that know not why they were created

Who can attest to anything that they were not on site to witness?  Who can attest to the depth of the ocean that we see every day, who can attest to the number of cells in our body or how many strands of hair are on our head?  We cannot even attest to the things that are right before us in this physical world, how then can we attest to the things of the spiritual world.  I put no limits on God to be able to do anything.   How difficult is it for God to bring the dead back to life, isn't He the beginning and the end of all things and did He not exist before anything was?  I put no limits on the God I serve, sorry to disappoint, the God I serve can do any and all things even bring the dead back to life which is a simply feat when we consider the vastness of the cosmos.  There is NOTHING too hard for my God to do.  Even if I am a useless, wandering  lamb in the the sight of others, He has his own purpose for me and I thank Him everyday that I have lived to see his glory in my lifetime.  Yahweh Elyon forever and ever.
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- ajanni at 18-03-2011 08:05 AM (10 years ago)
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alright , if its in the spritual world that jesus was walking after his death , i think there should be no much arguments on that , we all dose one thing or the others at the spritual level, yes i believe also too much in the mighty GOD , HE  is able and has HIS power over all things including you and me and even the jesus , one of HIS choiced servants
Posted: at 18-03-2011 08:05 AM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- enoeno at 18-03-2011 06:48 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 18-03-2011 08:05 AM
alright , if its in the spritual world that jesus was walking after his death , i think there should be no much arguments on that , we all dose one thing or the others at the spritual level, yes i believe also too much in the mighty GOD , HE  is able and has HIS power over all things including you and me and even the jesus , one of HIS choiced servants

@ ajanni u call Jesus is his chioced servants i pray that the Lord God will help u open ur spiritual eye that u may know the truth for it is written and ye shall no d truth and d truth shall u set u free.
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- ajanni at 18-03-2011 08:52 PM (10 years ago)
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i knew the truth already and i abide by the truth too , its you and your co,--- that are in darkness and yet to see the light of the truth , may the merciful lord widening your chest to embrazes the truth AMIN AMIN AMIN
Posted: at 18-03-2011 08:52 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- ajanni at 30-05-2011 11:38 AM (10 years ago)
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jesus son of marry , prophet of GOD
Posted: at 30-05-2011 11:38 AM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- frayobkk at 14-06-2011 11:31 AM (10 years ago)
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READ THIS U WILL KNOW MORE

Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last)

Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer)
2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) - “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Isaiah 44:24 - (God created the world by His self alone)
John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things)

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 5:17,18 - “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins.”

John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

John 14:6-7 - Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5,6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us)

Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men.

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:8,9 - But to the Son He (God) says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 1:8 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”

Posted: at 14-06-2011 11:31 AM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 14-06-2011 03:45 PM (10 years ago)
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 Shocked Shocked Shocked
Posted: at 14-06-2011 03:45 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- cadanre at 14-06-2011 08:28 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: ajanni on 18-03-2011 08:52 PM
i knew the truth already and i abide by the truth too , its you and your co,--- that are in darkness and yet to see the light of the truth , may the merciful lord widening your chest to embrazes the truth AMIN AMIN AMIN

Amin my brother. May God light their hearts. May He show them the light.

Posted: at 14-06-2011 08:28 PM (10 years ago) | Hero
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- ajanni at 14-06-2011 09:57 PM (10 years ago)
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the light of the ISLAM the only true way to salvations
Posted: at 14-06-2011 09:57 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- ajanni at 14-06-2011 09:59 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: frayobkk on 14-06-2011 11:31 AM
READ THIS U WILL KNOW MORE

Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last)

Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer)
2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) - “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Isaiah 44:24 - (God created the world by His self alone)
John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things)

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 5:17,18 - “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins.”

John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

John 14:6-7 - Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5,6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us)

Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men.

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:8,9 - But to the Son He (God) says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 1:8 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”


sumarize please , its too long
Posted: at 14-06-2011 09:59 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- frayobkk at 14-06-2011 10:04 PM (10 years ago)
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@Ajanni this is to clarified u so do read it anytime u have time if u dont dont forget it

Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:04 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 14-06-2011 10:12 PM (10 years ago)
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alright my dear
i will do so soonest
Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:12 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- frayobkk at 14-06-2011 10:21 PM (10 years ago)
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thanks God bless u

Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:21 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajanni at 14-06-2011 10:30 PM (10 years ago)
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Amen ooo. thanks alot
Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:30 PM (10 years ago) | Grande Master
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- frayobkk at 14-06-2011 10:37 PM (10 years ago)
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Ajanni if u will have time to read with me add me on my page i will be sending u bibble qoutes that will help u know more thanks

Posted: at 14-06-2011 10:37 PM (10 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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