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the question should be why moslems hate christians and not the other way round because it is the moslem people that think and feel islam is the only true religion and as such who choose not to follow up with them must be getten rid of one way or another.the current scenario going on in nigeria gives you your answer.how come your fellow moslems burn alot of churches and christian fellowers..?? but in comparison to what christians did is negligible.hey,dont give me the bull crap that they are not moslems or true moslems or other inexcusable reasons that is not validated.i have lots of moslem friends and people who practice other religion.i dont discriminate anybody or religion.so what i have to concludely say about your topic is that there is bound to be christians who practice and preach islamophobia and there are bound to be moslems who practice and preach christianophobia.i guess we all will have no choice but to let them be because no matter what we do and say to make them change their minds it will do little or nothing at all to affect them in the positive way to see reason with us. Reply
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Mr poster., no go start to fabricate stupid gues that could lead to unapropriate nonsense for here.., its only religious fanatics that take it to the xtreme.., bt am yet to c any muslim or christians within my environ and view go bananas Reply
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Talking of Muslims...where in Christ name are our Muslim brothers... ReplyThey are missing in action...
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Quote from: democrazy on 23-04-2011 04:24 PM @frayobkk You said "Jesus is GOd and the Saviour of the world he come for everyone =white, Black, christian Muslin, hindu,Bulda and any other religoin i cant mention here" THE TRUTH Matthew 10:5-10 5These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: "Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.' 8Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 9Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; 10take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep. "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24) Gentile - One who is not of the Jewish faith or is of a non-Jewish nation. then what are 'christians '? Not jews nor belonging to any lost sheep of Israel , but gentiles. So logically the ones that Jesus is speaking for are todays Messianic Jews. People who are Jewish and believe Jesus is the Messiah. if this is not so ...... then are the words above not Jesus's ? or other text not his ?? ************************************************************************************************************* Matthew 10:5-10 and Matthew 15:24 you shared them out of context (it's original intent). It is not the complete account the way that you are saying it. The disciples were being sent out on commission or on a missions trip, only for all who are Christians it is for a lifetime. It's true, gentiles are those other than Jews but a majority of Jews are not Christians. Some Jews do follow Jesus Christ, and the disciples...many were Jewish. Israel is God's chosen people because when everyone else in the world was worshipping demons through false and manufactured gods, Israel was worshipping the one whose nature is truly God; maker of heaven, earth and mankind. Israel was to speak to the world about God, the great I Am. BUT SALVATION IS FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP GOD. Later, Gentiles who worshipped the one true God also began speaking to the world about God. It's unfortunate, but God himself warned us of this time were are living in years ago...and of all the false, who pretend to speak and act in his name. Please be very careful of the type of Bible you are reading because many people are under the influence of the spirit of greed; and for copyrighting purposes change the words and message of the Bible. If one can find a Bible printed in the 1980's or earlier, the better. Many of the Bibles today are being printed in a way to prep the minds of the masses, so that they will easily accept the antichrist/satan as God along with all his lies. Please be very careful! If one just takes a name like John Adam Smith (John Smith is a comman name, thousands bear it) and now shares with everyone that John Smith said he would give a house away in a sweapstake, is it in context? No, because the middle name "Adam" is most important in finding the correct John Smith and has been omitted. It is the same with the Bible, if one takes apart of it without taking the whole, they will be in error.
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Quote from: democrazy on 22-04-2011 01:10 PM They have to hate each other simply becos...................................................................... *************************************************************************************************************A christian knows that any human being who does not follow in believing that Jesus Christ is the only son of God, who rose from the dead, to judge the living and the dead, is against them in their spiritual war. When the day comes and they have to leave their hoes and pick up their warrior elements to fight for christ.......will you stand in their way? The muslims have the same doctrine and behaviour...................................How about a BIG JOKE How many Muslims drive a Alfa Romeo:  the logo shows how the christian snake swallowed the islamic jihadist!!! peace and love to all that know it's meaning.It is not so...true believers do not hate muslims or any person. Anyone who is not a Christian or has not accepted the free gift of life is unprotected. Alone, a non-Christian is no match for satan because he already owns them. At anytime, satan can use that person and does. They will be doing things they know are wrong and don't care, they will do things that harm themselves and their family but don't care, they will do things they are evil against society and don't care...and so many other terrible things yet convince themselves they are alright. When I say don't care, I am also meaning they won't stop. Even, there are those that do good on the outside but their hearts are full of evil. These are people in bondage. True Christians do not hate person but must tell them the truth in love, especially if the Christian say they care about the person. So, if you are saying that telling the truth is hating the person...that's actually the opposite, it's love for the person. Mankind is in spiritual war with satan, the enemy of mankinds soul....and no other. That satan uses people who do not belong to God but Christians know it's not the person but satan. It is not a physical war and physical weapons won't do anything. It is a spirtual war, a war that is fought in the mind. Whoever belongs to satan, whatever he blows in the wind, their mind will accept one version or the lie or another
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Just asking someone to follow Christ or sharing the Good News of salvation with someone does not mean that they hate the person. It only means that they don't embrace the same belief. This happens everyday in sports, work, school, etc. people sharing their different beliefs, and it's not considered hate. Why now would one say sharing about Jesus is hate? ReplyIt is not a true Christian's place to accept or deny a person, that is only something God has the power to do. But, as Christians, we are suppose to share the truth that we hold and it's up to any person to accept or deny it. And that decision, which ever it may be is between God and that person. True Christians point unbelievers to God through Jesus Christ, and no other. This is the reason we Christians remain in this world. It is to tell as many as possible of the free gift of life God gives through Jesus Christ. God is loving, as well as just and says that everyone will hear the message...and it is so.
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Even as "some" Muslims are killing many of my brothers and sisters around the world, causing chaos and troubles--as can be seen in Nigeria and elsewhere--I am still obligated/commanded to genuinely love and pray for them[which I do]. There's not one single hatred in the teachings of Yeshua. But rather He said, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you. A genuine follower of Yeshua hasn't any bone of hatred in his entire body for his fellow human being. ReplyI do disagree with this statement of yours: "Equating a religion with its adherents is a fallacy, undertaken only for subjective purposes." We can agree that it would be deemed purely hypocritical to say one thing and do another. As a matter of fact, genuine and true adherents of a religion is and should be a pure reflection/demonstration of that religion. If a tree cannot be known by its fruits, tell me, by what shall it be known? That statement can be compared to arming an arm robber with a gun and empowering him to rob, while at the same time being free of the consequences of his action and telling him, 'by the way, your action is not the manifestation of what goes on in your heart. Quite absurd!!
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The problem is not islam or christianity,the truth both religion has some things in common and beside the are both from God.The problem is we human[[[[with strong adherent to a particular sect]]]] "It is good to practice religion in good faith but to be a religious fanatic is what is bad because a fanatic is a terrorist and a terrorist is a criminal"..................The solution is with government and we;to serve as a mental regulator by educating yourself and change people around you....................this is what i have to say for now.............GOD BLESS THE WROLD. Reply
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Quote from: laubare on 10-02-2011 12:12 PM For long i have bieng wondering why some Christians hate Muslims is it because of 9/11 or the crisis in Nigeria or is it that they are train to hate Muslim from their homes or school? i come to the conclusion that i may i miss the point. Since Muslims did not start bombing and killing innocent people or use road side bombs as a weapon of choice in war.Equating a religion with its adherents is a fallacy, undertaken only for subjective purposes. I wonder which religion can deserve such abuse. Can we even in our slightest imagination ascribe Apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany or Hiroshima to Christianity or Jesus? Muslims are trained not to abuse even idols, let alone the People of the Book. But about the abusive nature of Jewish and Christian extremists, the Quran has foretold Muslims and asked them to persevere because it will be ineffectual in denting the image of Islam. True. Despite the abuses, there are many more converts to Islam from Christianity than it is vice-versa, the latter being statistically insignificant for fourteen centuries now. The secret is that there is power in silence. "The lion", said Imam Shafi'i, is feared despite his silence, but the dog is stoned in spite of his barking. Total disagree with you on this issue,every chritain is train to love and cheerish accomdate every religion,every christain is train to love his neigbour as his or herself,but the problem is the moslem who never let go anything but believe in fighting and causing problems,alittle thin to gather them self to the street to fight,kill,burn down bulding and killing innocent christain in the name of allan.
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It is not only Muslims they also hate Jews. Do you know what is meant by ANTISEMITISM? Go and read on this subject and see how Christians pogrom Jews for no reason other than being Jews. It is their natural way of life. ReplyIN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA
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in the other hand,it is other religion that hate christains,christains are loving people and commodative,seeking peace to other. Reply
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Quote from: gimac on 24-05-2011 04:23 AM in the other hand,it is other religion that hate christains,christains are loving people and commodative,seeking peace to other. I see how the accommodate Jews (pogrom, holocaust), Muslims (crusade), Slavs (crusade) and others. IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA
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Quote from: cadanre on 30-05-2011 07:14 PM Quote from: gimac on 24-05-2011 04:23 AM in the other hand,it is other religion that hate christains,christains are loving people and commodative,seeking peace to other. I see how the accommodate Jews (pogrom, holocaust), Muslims (crusade), Slavs (crusade) and others. christianity is not violent,did you call crusade a violent you must be out of ur mind
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Christians do not hate Muslims. We all have the right to practice Replyour religions in peace without the violent hehaviour of the radical Islamic-Muslims. Also, i believe that there are some none violent devoted muslims out there. So your idea of Christians hating Muslism is totally wrong. And if there is anyway they can refrain from the violent attack toward innocent life, i believe we would all live peacefully without fear...
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CHRISTIANITY DOESN'T PREACH HATE NOR VIOLENCE Reply
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yeah,totally agreed with u Reply
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Quote from: gimac on 31-05-2011 04:25 AM Quote from: cadanre on 30-05-2011 07:14 PM Quote from: gimac on 24-05-2011 04:23 AM in the other hand,it is other religion that hate christains,christains are loving people and commodative,seeking peace to other. I see how the accommodate Jews (pogrom, holocaust), Muslims (crusade), Slavs (crusade) and others. christianity is not violent,did you call crusade a violent you must be out of ur mind The Crusades were wars by Christians against Moslems. Of course they were violent. But then the violence was two-way. The Moslems conquered Spain and were driven back from France; then they also went through the Balkans as far an Vienna. My brother once compared the wars between Christians and Moslems to the one between the Soviets and the Nazis; two systems alike in so many ways, yet each determined to destroy the other.
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you don't know what is war,how does winning soul to christ become war,have you ever seen christian with gun,cuttlass,spear,or any thing that hurt,kill in the crusades apart from Bible. Replyif crusades is meant to be war to moslem,i will say the belong to darkness,bible say the demons recognize Jesus i cried out for mercy.
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Quote from: gimac on 2-06-2011 05:11 AM you don't know what is war,how does winning soul to christ become war,have you ever seen christian with gun,cuttlass,spear,or any thing that hurt,kill in the crusades apart from Bible. if crusades is meant to be war to moslem,i will say the belong to darkness,bible say the demons recognize Jesus i cried out for mercy. You still owe me an explanation on how and why Islam's origin is violence as you have said. I have never denied that many wars were fought, but, all I need is your explanation as you pontificate that you know everything about that. IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA
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