Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? (Page 2)

Date: 12-03-2011 12:00 am (13 years ago) | Author: angelslos
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- ajepakoromance at 1-04-2011 07:14 PM (13 years ago)
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@chika001,

Its not about blame, but its about giving people the right information..
Information or knowledge is light. Its absence is ignorance or darkness..To abuse and pervert any information is same as perverting and abusing peoples mind. Thus people like Adolf hittler, Mussolini and others are 33 degree grand masters..Meaning they are neither bad nor good people, but people who live and fought for the interest and goal of their own people.. To you they appear evil, to their own people they are heroes..

Lets play the GOD game, since God created all and knows all, why will he create such people?..

My question still stand, Are you saying GOD is to be praise for killing that woman only son?..
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- mubaji at 1-04-2011 07:36 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: xgel on 12-03-2011 12:00 AM
Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people?
to test how firm they are in their acclaimed faith, Allah says in the Holy Qur'an, Chapter 29 verses 2 & 3, meaning:
2. Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe", and that they will not be tested?
3. We did test those before them, and Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false.

Posted: at 1-04-2011 07:36 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 4-04-2011 02:42 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ajepakoromance on  1-04-2011 07:14 PM
@chika001,

Its not about blame, but its about giving people the right information..
Information or knowledge is light. Its absence is ignorance or darkness..To abuse and pervert any information is same as perverting and abusing peoples mind. Thus people like Adolf hittler, Mussolini and others are 33 degree grand masters..Meaning they are neither bad nor good people, but people who live and fought for the interest and goal of their own people.. To you they appear evil, to their own people they are heroes..

Lets play the GOD game, since God created all and knows all, why will he create such people?..

My question still stand, Are you saying GOD is to be praise for killing that woman only son?..

Grand masters…what you are saying in essence is that good or bad depends on how one sees it…
So if The Almighty created dudes like Adolf Hitler…who pulled off the Second World War that facilitated in the liberation and independence of most…if not all African countries from colonial leeches…
If so…why blaming God when people whom you perceive as “innocent” are killed or die…and who said God killed the woman’s son…? Did the post Morten say so…?
Most times…unfortunately, we humans are responsible for the bad things that happen to ourselves, because we make wrong decisions or deliberately turn our backs on God and His words.
Every information one needs is spelt out in The Holy Bible…only for those…who diligently seek for it…
Posted: at 4-04-2011 02:42 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- ajepakoromance at 4-04-2011 09:33 PM (13 years ago)
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@chik001..
Good and bad are the result of mental self..As in the principles of polarity. There is no difference between both..So is God and devil..
When we blame devil for every malfunction and praise God for all our good tidings, is to say we are victim of ignorance..In reality both God and devil are same and a state of our consciousness..

Death is not a bad thing but to human it is ,bcus of mental self..
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- democrazy at 5-04-2011 04:39 AM (13 years ago)
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Smiley hahahah Pako the lecturer!!! more love to you bro!!!

There can NEVER be a Devil without a GOD. There can NEVER be good without Evil. There can NEVER be positive without Negative. Ying Yang all are a pairing...........Action needs a reaction that explains the action. How do you tell good if evil aint present?

Or in another way, can we answer this topic by saying "it is out of God's hands"
Posted: at 5-04-2011 04:39 AM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- chik001 at 6-04-2011 02:41 PM (13 years ago)
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@AJEPAKO

 The Principle of Polarity … the idea that everything is dual…comes in twos and has its opposites…just like…
 The principles of rhythm... a to and fro...a flow and inflow...a swing backward and forward…

then…
The Principle of Gender… the idea that gender is manifested in everything….Gender is manifested as the Masculine and Feminine principles...and manifests itself on all planes….

then also…
The Principle of Cause and Effect which explains that there is a cause for every effect, and an effect for every cause…

…bust it bro…I have read and assimilated all these…before the second birth…which is beyond mental reasoning…
…you are merely expanding on natural laws put into effect by the first cause… the grand designer who ordered the universe and the human body… which is God anyway…

Ok…read this...

after the creation of everything...God said it's good...
at the beginning...If you had read The Holy Bible very well…there is…the principle of give and take action…between an individual and the creator (God – in as much as yous want him out of the equation)...

This principle we can also say governs all relationships within man and all relationships among men…between husband and wife in a home...among individuals in a society...between government and people in a nation...and among nations in the world…
evil crept in…when that give and take action with the grand designer (God) was broken due to disobedience…and for the modern man...is continuing to break due to ignorance...

I will continue…later…don’t miss this…
Posted: at 6-04-2011 02:41 PM (13 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- mchinwendu at 15-04-2011 12:55 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: xgel on 12-03-2011 12:00 AM
Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people?

We are living in a sinful world, as a result of sin and since we live in this world, things are going to happen...good and bad.  If one remembers that everything good comes from God and everything bad comes from the devil, one will not be deceived.  Also in the Bible, under the old testament there was judgement but in the new testament there is grace.  The way God dealt with mankind in the old testament, is not the way he deals with mankind in the testament. 

Because God loves us so much, he has given us authority to do certain things.  We are suppose to love our neighbor as ourself, don't steal, don't kill (not only physically but mentally or spiritually, etc.), do not cover another mans goods or try to possess their wife/husband and others.  When we are suppose to do something because we have been given the authority to do something to helps others and refuse to do it, we are the ones that allow some of the bad things that happen to good people. 

Evil triumphs...when good men/women do nothing
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- hosbert at 16-04-2011 08:55 AM (13 years ago)
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@All,my God is not an author of confusion.He is a perfect Father that loves us all so dearly(John 3:16) and always interested in seeing us happy.In 1 John 2: 2-3 the bible said what manner of love has the Father bestowed on us that we should be called the sons of God,Now,are we the sons of God...Our Father is more caring than our earthly Father to allow evil come upon us.It is for this reason that He said that if our earthly fathers know how to give us good gifts,how much more Himself.

The issues I would like to address are these;the mere fact that one is good does not make the person a child of God because morality,I mean people of good and living conscience may not necessarily be believers.remember that Jesus christ is the only way,the truth and the life and if you have not accepted Him as the Lord of your life,there is no two ways about it,you are not a believer and still under bondage of the devil (2 corinthians 5:21);and the next issue  is that of having the knowledge of the truth.Yes most christians do not know who they are in Christ Jesus because they do not have accurate information,knowledge about the Lord and who really they are.When Jesus died,He paid the fully penalty of sin thereby setting everyone that belives on His name free from death and any other consequences of sin(2 Corinthians 5:17;Hebrews 2:15-18,Colossians 1:13).In essence,Jesus did not just set us free from the bondage of sin and manipulations from the devil but also called us to a new life,way of existence.A life that is different from our old nature.Remember in John 1,the scriptures made it abundantly clearly that we are born again not of blood,nor of the flesh,nor of the will of man but of God.Also,in John 3,it said tha he that is born of the flesh is flesh and he that is born of the spirit is spirit.Therefore having born of the spirit of God,we are spirit being and should function in that light.To exist below that realm is to make yourself a mince meat for the devil wherein people would consider you a good person yet calamities of life would befall you just like the unsaved.IN THIS REALM,YOU ARE INSTRUCTED AT ALL TIMES BY THE HOLY SPIRIT (John 14).I will not leave you empty handed,I will send the Comforter who shall show you all things.

Part of our problems is ignorance and that is why the bible said in Hosea 4:6,my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.When you know who you are and the God you are serving,you cannot be be moved or destroyed.Also,the mere fact that the bible contains all the promises of God does not mean that the promises can work for us,we must know these promises and declare them upon our lifes,our busineses,our career and upon all areas that we want changes.Remember Elijah and Ahab,notice that Elijah did not say by the word of God,there shall not be rain in the land,instead he said by my word,there shall be no rain the land.We can escape evil if we are filled with the Holy Spirit and depend on Him for instruction and guidance.In summary,God does not allow evil to befall good people,ignorance does.
Posted: at 16-04-2011 08:55 AM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- Loveday759 at 27-04-2011 01:17 PM (13 years ago)
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SOMETIME GOD ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN, IS A TEST OF FAITH, REMEMBER JOB IN THE BIBLE, AND JESUS CHRIST TOLD US THAT IF OUR MASTER IS TEMPTED THEN WE THE FOLLOWERS MUST BE TEMPTED TOO AND HE WILL NOT ALLOW OUR TEMPTATION TO BE GREATER THAN US. ALSO WITHOUT PAIN A CHILD WILL LAUGH AT CORRECTION, GOD ALLOWS IT SOMETIME TO CORRECT US.
Posted: at 27-04-2011 01:17 PM (13 years ago) | Upcoming
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- deboalabi262 at 27-04-2011 06:29 PM (13 years ago)
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God is Love......

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- Mercies at 3-05-2011 01:35 PM (13 years ago)
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Quote from: ajepakoromance on 16-03-2011 10:08 AM
@xgel,

To be good is to say you are God..Good is a synonym for God..Thus when bad things happen to good people, its same as saying, good people don't know they are god or they are trying to be what they are not..Note, bad is the polarity for good..If good is same as god, then bad is same as devil..Thus its not god that allow bad thing to happen to good people no..Its nature..without devil no god..thus good people need bad things to free themselves from god or human consciousness, which is our mind, human best friend and worst enemy..

There is no one that is good that is what the bible says.
Let us look at somethings critically, there are some people we can refer to as good and at the same time bad things happen to them. the bible said in this world we shall see tribulation but that we should be of good cheer because He (God) has overcome the world. That is the only explanation I can give to this question.
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- CammyWhite at 12-05-2011 12:36 PM (12 years ago)
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Things just happen. It's your Wyrd. Deal with it.
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- gimac at 13-05-2011 08:14 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: xgel on 12-03-2011 12:00 AM
Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people?

yes the are reason in every thing under the sun,people  who ask you how you come to kow the are good people,let us take example from the man in bible Job.

only God can tell why it is only like that,but from what i know and experience if God should open on eyes to see what we think is good for you and that which we call bad,we will know exactly that God meant good for us,sometimes it happen for his name to Glorified
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- KINGJHOE at 13-05-2011 08:15 AM (12 years ago)
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it makes the wold complete
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- gimac at 13-05-2011 08:43 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: gimac on 13-05-2011 08:14 AM
Quote from: xgel on 12-03-2011 12:00 AM
Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people?

yes the are reason in every thing under the sun,people  who ask you how you come to kow the are good people,let us take example from the man in bible Job.

good for you and that which we call bad,we will know exactly that God meant good for us,sometimes it happen for his name to Glorified
only God can tell why it is only like that,but from what i know and experience if God should open on eyes to see what we think is
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- gimac at 13-05-2011 08:51 AM (12 years ago)
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yes the are reason in every thing under the sun,people  who ask you how you come to kow the are good people,let us take example from the man in bible Job.

good for you and that which we call bad,we will know exactly that God meant good for us,sometimes it happen for his name to Glorifiedonly God can tell why it is only like that,but from what i know and experience if God should open on eyes to see what we think is
Posted: at 13-05-2011 08:51 AM (12 years ago) | Hero
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- chik001 at 13-05-2011 08:25 PM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: CammyWhite on 12-05-2011 12:36 PM
Things just happen. It's your Wyrd. Deal with it.

...do you believe in chance...?
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- isdorelaz at 13-05-2011 09:35 PM (12 years ago)
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@xgel,d reason is because as rain falls on both d gud and bad,so as d sun and all comes frm God.to answer ur question, as bad things do fal on d bad ppl so as it fals on d gud.
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- CammyWhite at 14-05-2011 06:12 AM (12 years ago)
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Quote from: chik001 on 13-05-2011 08:25 PM
Quote from: CammyWhite on 12-05-2011 12:36 PM
Things just happen. It's your Wyrd. Deal with it.

...do you believe in chance...?

If you mean Fate (=Wyrd), then of course I do.
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- chik001 at 15-05-2011 05:06 PM (12 years ago)
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@cammyWhite

Fate and chance is not the same…
…I know you are trying to take a meek out of me…Let me rephrase:

...do you believe the fact that everything that exists came into existence by chance…coincidence…or of no higher purpose to your life…?

...before you answer...read your comment before the last...
Posted: at 15-05-2011 05:06 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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