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Quote from: verah on 22-05-2012 04:38 PM Well first we have to consider their history or background,the Koran is their (evil book) while some believe in the Bible that's God's word. The piont is why would a quaran teach things such as fighting and killing? That'd not reasonable. A allah of peace would never permit such attitude or behaviour rather he will encourage us to love our neighbours as ourselves. That religion is extremely corrupt and its because the teachings are false. Muslim is a really a religion of peace but one question, if a Yoruba Muslim man find himself in Kano during religion crisis are you aware he will be killed by the Muslim cos he is not regarded as a Muslim and same for a Muslim Ibo man. So where is the religion of peace in this. KOKO of my gist is the Northern Muslim really dont see the southern Muslim as a really Muslim well said.....well said.......Note speaking from experience
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Quote from: Dejola24856 on 22-05-2012 04:50 PM Common verah.....dont start a topic u know ntg about.....Stop been a Fanatic & Wannabe......fcukinjoe onced debate me abt dis particular issue saying "The Quran teaches war and violence" which i proved him wrong and murdered d FALSE topic and gave him real fact abt the Quran.....u know wat he did? He den refered me to one hadith which was written and narrated by ur fellow Christian cleric claiming to b a Muslim so as to cuz confusion. I can help u with the link containing the dialogue between me and ur JOE if ur want. So verah....drop it abeg...... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IF U TINK D DEVIL IS A LIAR, THEN LET A GUY LIE TO U AND U WILL KNW DAT D DEVIL IS A LEANER ........
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Quote from: chimax33 on 22-05-2012 04:59 PM well said.....well said....... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IF U TINK D DEVIL IS A LIAR, THEN LET A GUY LIE TO U AND U WILL KNW DAT D DEVIL IS A LEANER ........
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Quote from: verah on 22-05-2012 04:59 PM PROVE WHO WRONG? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Look at this girl oooo........U r still on this ur Akpabu thing? I b Igbo boi? Hw u want make i know d meaning? Nawa for u oooooo........I made mention Joe intentionally cuz i know u would ask me why i am bringing him into dis......He is a man, so am i and he is always bluffing and saying all sorts of bad things about Islam.......I av onced debate him.....And u said he defeated me?.....MAybe i accept......But i dare u to go back to dat particular dialogue and get ur fact........I think he is in the best position to debate me.....I am a loser by bringing more people into dialogue ? Or i am brave enough to face any challenges? common girl....Who is Delusional here?......Hahahahaha......U know why i dont like fighting u? Only bcuz u've got 7 back bones and i got 9....eheheheheheehehehe Common girl....I no dey fight u ooo....i still dey play ni and u don dey boil as u dey so.....Slow down girl
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Islam is itself a perfect example of how a new religion can destroy Replyall other religions in its vicinity. Its prophet, Mohammed, was a deeply disturbed individual. He was a poor orphan looking for an identity and he found it by appealing to the ultimate father figure – Allah. Lacking a real father, he simply created a supernatural one. By the end of his life, he was the first ruler of all of Arabia, and all of his enemies had been despatched or converted. He himself was regarded by his followers as the perfect human being, the ideal, sacred pattern for all of humanity for all time. He is more or less what Christ is to Christians, though he is not regarded as God. Yet it’s a remarkable fact that for the first 13 years of Islam, Mohammed only had around 150 followers. Islam made almost no impression at all on the pagan tribes of Mecca. It was only when Mohammed moved to Medina and involved himself first in politics and then war that Islam began to prosper i.e. it wasn’t for religious reasons that Islam succeeded. The vast majority of Mohammed’s efforts in Medina were devoted to the political and military success of Islam, and through those came its religious success, almost as an afterthought. Politics and jihad are the real essence of Islam. Rather than Islam being compared and contrasted with Christianity, it should be seen as a rival model to capitalist democracy i.e. it's a political, social and economic view of life. As a religion, Islam has almost nothing to offer. It has no complexity at all. It really amounts to nothing more than the assertion that there is only one God – Allah – and Mohammed is his prophet and you must do everything it says in the Koran if you want to go to paradise. Otherwise, you will go to hell. That’s it. There’s nothing else. There’s none of the incredible theological complexity of Christianity. Christians, in order to defend the concepts of the Holy Trinity and the Incarnation of God on earth (Jesus Christ) had to wrestle with mind-bogglingly difficult philosophical issues, all of which were absent from Islam: a simple religion for simple desert tribesmen. Islam was, and is, perfectly suited to people with no education, which is why Islam is a religion associated with almost no intellectual achievements. The only Muslims who ever contributed anything clever were those who studied pagan Greek philosophy! IF U TINK D DEVIL IS A LIAR, THEN LET A GUY LIE TO U AND U WILL KNW DAT D DEVIL IS A LEANER ........
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Quote from: Dejola24856 on 22-05-2012 04:56 PM Lolz....I dare u to take some extra tutors on the use of English cuz i realize u always try to use ur newly learnt words....But u use it wrongly/at the wrong time/wrong coversation/so ironic/opposite in meaning... Wat has hanging "widdiful" got to do with our conversation? i understand u r still primitive....But at least u ought to av advanced trading words with someone like me......Yes i am also primitive hehehehe i admit cuz no body is ever perfect....but i am always happy knowing i am better that ppl like u..... I thank God for my life mayb u didnt understand what i said..........i said u deserve to be hanged for that vomit from ur smelling mouth (u'v learnt a new word from me today)
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Quote from: phyuk_Muslims on 22-05-2012 05:16 PM mayb u didnt understand what i said..........i said u deserve to be hanged for that vomit from ur smelling mouth (u'v learnt a new word from me today) make sure u get a license from me b4 u use dat word ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Quote from: Dejola24856 on 22-05-2012 05:12 PM Look at this girl oooo........U r still on this ur Akpabu thing? I b Igbo boi? Hw u want make i know d meaning? Nawa for u oooooo........I made mention Joe intentionally cuz i know u would ask me why i am bringing him into dis......He is a man, so am i and he is always bluffing and saying all sorts of bad things about Islam.......I av onced debate him.....And u said he defeated me?.....MAybe i accept......But i dare u to go back to dat particular dialogue and get ur fact........I think he is in the best position to debate me.....I am a loser by bringing more people into dialogue ? Or i am brave enough to face any challenges? common girl....Who is Delusional here?......Hahahahaha......U know why i dont like fighting u? Only bcuz u've got 7 back bones and i got 9....eheheheheheehehehe Common girl....I no dey fight u ooo....i still dey play ni and u don dey boil as u dey so.....Slow down girl ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() IF U TINK D DEVIL IS A LIAR, THEN LET A GUY LIE TO U AND U WILL KNW DAT D DEVIL IS A LEANER ........
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Quote from: phyuk_Muslims on 22-05-2012 05:16 PM mayb u didnt understand what i said..........i said u deserve to be hanged for that vomit from ur smelling mouth (u'v learnt a new word from me today) Idiot.....Did u read my last comment very well? I guess u r too myhopic to c dat my words saying "Wat has hanging "widdiful" got to do with our conversation?" Guy....u get problem....u think everyone is as dumb and INANE as u r? Mumu
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Quote from: verah on 22-05-2012 05:18 PM ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Lolz....I don hear u.....I no reach.......u don win....verah winner....lolz ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Quote from: open_reality on 22-05-2012 02:54 PM Oooooh............sweet babe. You've said it all. thanks dear ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I AM WHO I AM, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN BLOODY DO THE OTHER THING AND FCUK ALL HATERZ
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Quote from: open_reality on 22-05-2012 03:06 PM I know foolishness is cheap, but pls give yourself some class. The north is a cursed place from the creation of Adam. Nothing good can ever come from the north with all the bloody miscreant muslims roaming the streets. Y'all are born terrorist and will die that way. The only good muslim is a DEAD MUSLIM. fcuk you twat! NICE ONE I AM WHO I AM, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN BLOODY DO THE OTHER THING AND FCUK ALL HATERZ
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Quote from: Dejola24856 on 22-05-2012 05:23 PM Idiot.....Did u read my last comment very well? I guess u r too myhopic to c dat my words saying "Wat has hanging "widdiful" got to do with our conversation?" Guy....u get problem....u think everyone is as dumb and INANE as u r? Mumu i know your problem, u are suffering from Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).........attention seeker go see a doctor...A*#S like you
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Quote from: open_reality on 22-05-2012 03:20 PM Hey toilet, are u still breathing? where the hell have you been? Now listen to me carefully you japan frog, Your father + your entire generation are all terrorist. The only animal you should be begging to stop these terrorist acts is Prophet muhammed. Plead with him to disconnect his network from hell to all his followers here on earth. That way, peace would be restored. Oya run go rub palm kernel oil for that ur dry head before i carry this cooking spoon spell ur name for ur gorimakpa. Foolish animal. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I AM WHO I AM, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN BLOODY DO THE OTHER THING AND FCUK ALL HATERZ
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you referred to him as a 'man' just because he is a christian, if to say he is a muslim, you'd have use boko haramist or a terrorist...... Replyyou mean that a christian attempting to bomb a place is not a boko haramist or a terrorist or what? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Quote from: phyuk_Muslims on 22-05-2012 05:43 PM i know your problem, u are suffering from Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).........attention seeker go see a doctor...A*#S like you Lolz....If i am (ADHD) just as u've said or being an attention seeker....comparing my date of activeness on NP with urs.....I would av been an Addict or Hero on NP.....Noted........But av got some more reasonable and beneficial stuffs to do with my precious time....I just come on here to catch fun durin my leisure time.......Unlike u who got no reasonble reason for ur existence...I c u as a Non entity....... Go get a life u MULE....
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Quote from: verah on 22-05-2012 04:49 PM I had to do a little research and findings to buttress my point Islam I started noticing this from school when christians where being opening assaulted under the guise of cultisms: Is well with you hundred times Muslims hate Christians and Jews. Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah" Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah WHO IS DECEIVING WHO? MUSLIMS ARE HIPOCRITES I AM WHO I AM, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN BLOODY DO THE OTHER THING AND FCUK ALL HATERZ
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Quote from: Dejola24856 on 22-05-2012 05:54 PM Lolz....If i am (ADHD) just as u've said or being an attention seeker....comparing my date of activeness on NP with urs.....I would av been an Addict or Hero on NP.....Noted........But av got some more reasonable and beneficial stuffs to do with my precious time....I just come on here to catch fun durin my leisure time.......Unlike u who got no reasonble reason for ur existence...I c u as a Non entity....... Go get a life u MULE.... if u not suffering from ADHD....y do u always want a quote from everybody ![]()
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Quote from: verah on 22-05-2012 04:52 PM When the Koran is cited by Muslims in response to questions about violence, it is often discussed in such a way as to shut down a meaningful exploration of the text. One or two mild passages are usually offered, as if these fully represented the contents of a scripture containing 6,000-plus verses. But the Koran -- literally "recitation" -- is a collection of diverse materials that include polemic, praise, eschatology, law, narrative, battle calls, and details of the domestic life of the Prophet. I C In particular, the sourcebooks contain a great deal of material relating to violence. This article reviews that small part of the material that is directly relevant to any debate about the link between Islam and terror: the commands to fight and kill. The Koran contains five commands to kill and 12 commands to fight (literally, "try to kill"). Most are found in the second (verses 190, 191, 193, 244), fourth (vv. 76, 84, 89, 91) and ninth (vv. 5, 12, 14, 29, 36, 123) suras. The commands address a number of different situations, from "fighting those who fight you" to "fighting totally." The objects of the fighting and killing include the unbelievers, the "associators" (mushrikin, or polytheists) and "the friends of Satan." In classical Muslim discussions of these verses, two verses attracted more attention than any others. They came to be known as "the sword verse" (9.5) and "the verse of tribute" (9.29). The verse of tribute concerns the "people of the book" -- generally understood by Muslims to be faith communities possessing a scripture, especially Jews and Christians. The command is to fight those who have been given the book "until they pay the tribute (jizya) out of hand and have been humbled." The command in the sword verse is to "kill the associators (mushrikin) wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush." At face value, therefore, polytheists appear to be at greater risk than Jews or Christians. The Arabic verb in all of these verses is not the verb related to jihad. Rather, it is the verb qatala in its first ("to kill") and third ("to fight, try to kill") forms. The Koran contains many other verses using forms of qatala which -- though not imperatives -- appear to encourage fighting or killing. Among these is 61.4: "Allah loves those who fight in his way." I AM WHO I AM, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN BLOODY DO THE OTHER THING AND FCUK ALL HATERZ
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Quote from: verah on 22-05-2012 05:15 PM Islam is itself a perfect example of how a new religion can destroy Well explained all other religions in its vicinity. Its prophet, Mohammed, was a deeply disturbed individual. He was a poor orphan looking for an identity and he found it by appealing to the ultimate father figure – Allah. Lacking a real father, he simply created a supernatural one. By the end of his life, he was the first ruler of all of Arabia, and all of his enemies had been despatched or converted. He himself was regarded by his followers as the perfect human being, the ideal, sacred pattern for all of humanity for all time. He is more or less what Christ is to Christians, though he is not regarded as God. Yet it’s a remarkable fact that for the first 13 years of Islam, Mohammed only had around 150 followers. Islam made almost no impression at all on the pagan tribes of Mecca. It was only when Mohammed moved to Medina and involved himself first in politics and then war that Islam began to prosper i.e. it wasn’t for religious reasons that Islam succeeded. The vast majority of Mohammed’s efforts in Medina were devoted to the political and military success of Islam, and through those came its religious success, almost as an afterthought. Politics and jihad are the real essence of Islam. Rather than Islam being compared and contrasted with Christianity, it should be seen as a rival model to capitalist democracy i.e. it's a political, social and economic view of life. As a religion, Islam has almost nothing to offer. It has no complexity at all. It really amounts to nothing more than the assertion that there is only one God – Allah – and Mohammed is his prophet and you must do everything it says in the Koran if you want to go to paradise. Otherwise, you will go to hell. That’s it. There’s nothing else. There’s none of the incredible theological complexity of Christianity. Christians, in order to defend the concepts of the Holy Trinity and the Incarnation of God on earth (Jesus Christ) had to wrestle with mind-bogglingly difficult philosophical issues, all of which were absent from Islam: a simple religion for simple desert tribesmen. Islam was, and is, perfectly suited to people with no education, which is why Islam is a religion associated with almost no intellectual achievements. The only Muslims who ever contributed anything clever were those who studied pagan Greek philosophy! I AM WHO I AM, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN BLOODY DO THE OTHER THING AND FCUK ALL HATERZ
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