Nigeria's black Jews re-discovered? (Page 16)

Date: 24-07-2012 3:13 am (10 years ago) | Author: Tony Ladipo
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- aishatua1 at 25-07-2012 01:47 PM (10 years ago)
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- kebella at 25-07-2012 01:49 PM (10 years ago)
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smelling loose c*@t aint yu tire of messing up this site with ur stupidity................bitch ur slowly killing this site with all this ur nonsensical baseless posts F.A.G Sad

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- jeromchis at 25-07-2012 01:51 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: Methuselah on 25-07-2012 12:43 PM
 yea that is why the hausas easily killed 3 million of your people as a result of your stupidities.  you guys are lucky they decided they ignore the rest of you who were hiding in the bush.  Next time,i hope not though!!!!! But next time it will be a total clear out.

  We all know you guys wont survive another war,so please stop the crap you are saying.
Your days are numbered,u shall suffer in prejudice,yorubas started the war on Igbos
so dont lie,,u shall die for not acknowledging the truth,bastard,i will even prefer
to use u for money ritual,before one alahaji first use u do gbomo gbomo
dead smelling corp
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- aishatua1 at 25-07-2012 01:51 PM (10 years ago)
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Osu caste system: The story of Nigeria's 'untouchables'
Andrew Walker
BBC News
Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:30 UTC

Enugu, Nigeria -- Pastor Cosmos Aneke Chiedozie is about to make an admission that virtually no Nigerian like him would be prepared to make.

"My grandfather was an Osu," he says.

He is standing outside his church in Enugu, south-eastern Nigeria, clutching his Bible which he believes has saved him from being a marked man.

Among the Igbo people of eastern Nigeria the Osu are outcasts, the equivalent of being an "untouchable".

Years ago he and his family would be shunned by society, banished from communal land, banned from village life and refused the right to marry anyone not from an Osu family.

  
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Cosmos Aneke Chiedozie wants to break the stigma of being 'Osu'Marriage

The vehemence of the tradition has weakened over the last 50 years.

Nowadays the only trouble the Osu encounter is when they try to get married.

But the fear of social stigma is still strong - to the point that most would never admit to being an Osu.

They fear the consequences for their families in generations to come or at the hands of people who still believe in the old ways.

It took the BBC a long time track down an Osu willing to talk, Igbo journalists, human rights advocates, academics and politicians could suggest no-one.

It was only by chance that Cosmos admitted his family were Osu after an interview with the Pentecostal church - known to oppose the tradition.

Now a born-again Christian, he has had a hard fight to escape the stigma of the Osu.

Sacrifice

People say the Osu are the descendants of people sacrificed to the gods, hundreds of years ago.

But an academic who has researched Igbo traditions says he believes the Osu were actually a kind of "living sacrifice" to the gods from the community.

"I remember when I was a child, seeing the Osu and running away," says Professor Ben Obumselu, former vice-president of the influential Igbo organisation Ohaneze Ndi Igbo.

"They were banned from all forms of civil society; they had no land, lived in the shrine of the gods, and if they could, would farm the land next to the road."

"It was believed that they had been dedicated to the gods, that they belonged to them, rather then the world of the human," he said.

Nigeria's growing cities began to break down such traditions of village life, he says.

"If someone lives in Lagos these days, the only time a person may come into contact with it is when they are planning to get married. They go home to tell their families, their parents turn around and say, 'No you can't marry because they're Osu.'"

  
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The Osu are considered to be 'living sacrifices" to spiritsInitiated

Cosmos' father had denounced the traditional beliefs that made him an outcast from society.

He raised Cosmos to be a Christian too, hoping the bloodline of the Osu would be broken.

But when Cosmos was a child his grandfather died and at around the same time Cosmos fell sick.

"The village said the reason I was ill was I was being possessed by the spirit of my grandfather, and he was angry that we had rejected the old ways," he said.

The village elders put pressure on his father to initiate Cosmos into the old traditions and culture.

It was either that, or he would die, they said.

So he left church, learnt about the spirits and his status in the village.

Outlaw

But this ostracism, he now believes, left him without "moral direction".

He became an itinerant smuggler and outlaw, bringing in goods illegally over Nigeria's northern border from Niger.

Eventually he was arrested and thrown in jail.

"It was in the prison yard that I was born again," he said.

"When I believed in the old ways, I could not marry or be part of my community," he said.

"Now I've been born again, I have rejected all that, and my wife, she is born again too, and doesn't care about it either."

His wife's family had also rejected the traditions of the Osu and did not object to their daughter's choice of husband.

Education advantage

Other Osu have been able to use the ostracism to their advantage, says Mr Obumselu.

Unable to make a way in village life, some Osu embraced "Western" education and became Nigeria's first doctors and lawyers, he says.

Consequently many of modern Igboland's prominent families are Osu.

So why does the stigma remain?

Mr Obumselu says the traditions have a lingering hold on people because they are not sure how much power the "old ways" still have.

Traditionally the Osu are treated as a people apart, but were never the victims of violence.

But today some community conflicts have erupted between people each accusing the other of being Osu, Mr Obumselu says.

"The continued belief in ritual avoidance has caused great harm to society, especially in Enugu."

Pentecostal churches, like Mr Chiedozie's, are having an effect and a growing population may also drown out the stigma of being Osu, says Mr Obumselu.

"After all, if in 1800 there might only be a handful of Osu in any place, in 2000 it may be a third of the village!"


  do jewish people have osu in them? Lips Sealed
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- halalizzy at 25-07-2012 01:55 PM (10 years ago)
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A LION CAN GO ANY WHERE AND DOMINATE BUT IT WONT BE EASY FOR GOAT TO DO THE SAME, IF YORUBA OR HAUSA MIGRATE TO IGBO LAND FOR WORK, THEY WILL LATER TURN TO SLAVE COS THE MENTALITY AND ORIENTATION YOU ARE TAKING TO IGBO LAND HAD BEEN EXPIRED SO YOU CAN ONLY FOOL YOURSELVES AND TURN TO SUCK-AWAY DIGGERS BUT WHEN IGBOS COME TO YOUR LAND THEY TURN YOU WEY BE THE INDIGENOUS TO BE THEIR SLAVE AHHAAHAHAAAH
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- kebella at 25-07-2012 01:57 PM (10 years ago)
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 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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- aishatua1 at 25-07-2012 01:58 PM (10 years ago)
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chest beating  fake jewish osu igbos.....

igboland.............
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- aishatua1 at 25-07-2012 01:59 PM (10 years ago)
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 Grin Grin Grin
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- aishatua1 at 25-07-2012 02:02 PM (10 years ago)
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 Grin Grin Grin

17 pregnant teenagers arrested in Anambra baby factory

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- jeromchis at 25-07-2012 02:04 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: aishatua1 on 25-07-2012 01:45 PM
A member of Nigeria's House of Representatives has appeared in court, charged with conning a German businessman out of $350,000.
Morris Ibekwe was arrested on Wednesday by the anti-fraud commission in connection with a so-called "419" scam.

Nigerian conmen have become notorious for duping foreign businessmen into handing over large amounts of money, on the basis that they would receive millions of dollars later on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2950696.stm
ndi igbo kwenu.. 
jewis i hail......... Grin



Is better than your terror boko harms
the most wicked man in Igbo land is a saint to compare
any dirty tribe that flaunt itself here,,u dead smelling breath
soon u will become a tragic story,i only feel for the upcoming once that will choose same path with u agent of Satan,die now and rise no more,,evil.....


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- aishatua1 at 25-07-2012 02:05 PM (10 years ago)
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Igboland’s booming baby business
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Written by SOC Okenwa
Friday, 20 July 2012

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The Igbos are mostly found in south-eastern Nigeria. A great people with great culture and custom the republican lifestyle of the Igbos leaves them  as a strong people who value personal liberty and choices. Sometimes described by critics as generally difficult to rule or control based on this principle of rooted republicanism, the Igbos are fiercely independent .

Igbos go to great length to maintain family ties in the unique spirit of brotherhood — uncompromisingly attached to family values held sacrosanct for ages! This commentator is a member of this great community east of the Niger and he is indeed proud! Whilst that fact is established, it does not in any stretch of imagination prevent one from speaking the truth even if that truth is against the interest of my people.

Last March, I was navigating the internet one early morning, and I stumbled upon a news item. It was about the booming 'business' in Igboland of baby selling and buying! Security agents reportedly 'invaded' a so-called orphanage home in Anambra State where they made some arrests and freed some female 'hostages' -- some heavy with pregnancy!

Recently also, similar news item came up. The news was still about a raid carried out by soldiers in an orphanage in Aba, Abia State. The soldiers reportedly arrested six girls (some pregnant!) for alleged child trafficking while six babies were recovered from 'captivity'! According to the report, the owner of the home escaped arrest and was still at large!

The truth in this situation must be told, no matter whose ox is gored. The problem of child trafficking is not limited to Igboland. However, the difference here happens to be the propensity with which some Igbo men and women are desperate to 'buy' babies or use same for money rituals! While some couples are in need of babies to solidify their marital relationships, others desire new-born babies for the purposes of making satanic money!

In Igboland when you are married and bearing a child poses a problem, then one is in trouble! All sort of stories would be doing the rounds about the man’s impotency or the wife's past wayward lifestyle. The pressure from the village and elsewhere would force you to seek out a solution: visiting spiritual homes and pastors or going all the way to buying a baby, which would then be presented to everybody as yours! In this case of baby buying and selling a syndicate is involved; a network of baby-supplying chain linking the entire south-eastern states.

While the high cost of marriage in Igboland discourages eligible men from marrying and settling down, the unwritten rule that forbids a girl from having any child before marriage forces girls to either go for abortion in the event of an unwanted pregnancy or contemplate even selling off the baby once it is delivered is another problem. The situation is that serious and something must be done by elders in the villages to reduce the prohibitive cost of marrying our girls in the village or towns in Igboland.


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http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/opinion/44512-igbolands-booming-baby-business
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- Methuselah at 25-07-2012 02:06 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: jeromchis on 25-07-2012 01:51 PM
Your days are numbered,u shall suffer in prejudice,yorubas started the war on Igbos
so dont lie,,u shall die for not acknowledging the truth,bastard,i will even prefer
to use u for money ritual,before one alahaji first use u do gbomo gbomo
dead smelling corp

   i dont need to say much to you,neither do i need to kill you. You are already dying of old age!
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- Methuselah at 25-07-2012 02:08 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: aishatua1 on 25-07-2012 01:58 PM
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chest beating  fake jewish osu igbos.....

igboland.............

  wow no wonder they migrate.  who would like to live there.
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- Methuselah at 25-07-2012 02:11 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: jeromchis on 25-07-2012 02:04 PM

Is better than your terror boko harms
the most wicked man in Igbo land is a saint to compare
any dirty tribe that flaunt itself here,,u dead smelling breath
soon u will become a tragic story,i only feel for the upcoming once that will choose same path with u agent of Satan,die now and rise no more,,evil.....




     that doesn't solve your problem.  I know the truth hurt!  you are on a coach  traveling to Lagos?  I guess so!
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- Methuselah at 25-07-2012 02:13 PM (10 years ago)
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 ibo man can sell his whole family just to make money.  This is why they should have killed all these problematic OSU------Osuji, cliford orji   and co.LTD
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- jeromchis at 25-07-2012 02:14 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: halalizzy on 25-07-2012 01:55 PM
A LION CAN GO ANY WHERE AND DOMINATE BUT IT WONT BE EASY FOR GOAT TO DO THE SAME, IF YORUBA OR HAUSA MIGRATE TO IGBO LAND FOR WORK, THEY WILL LATER TURN TO SLAVE COS THE MENTALITY AND ORIENTATION YOU ARE TAKING TO IGBO LAND HAD BEEN EXPIRED SO YOU CAN ONLY FOOL YOURSELVES AND TURN TO SUCK-AWAY DIGGERS BUT WHEN IGBOS COME TO YOUR LAND THEY TURN YOU WEY BE THE INDIGENOUS TO BE THEIR SLAVE AHHAAHAHAAAH

Bros tell those low lives what their are
Morons
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- Methuselah at 25-07-2012 02:15 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: Ominiscience on 25-07-2012 01:25 PM
The space is reserved for inteligent responces Cheesy    don't waste energy on him.

    Mr fake Jew. you remind me of rick ross(i meant the fake drug dealer)
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- Methuselah at 25-07-2012 02:16 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: jeromchis on 25-07-2012 02:14 PM
Bros tell those low lives what their are
Morons


   Igbos are a curse to Nigeria.
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- halalizzy at 25-07-2012 02:17 PM (10 years ago)
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scam 419 fraud etc are the business of wise people, genius. not for aboki or agboro bark  
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- Methuselah at 25-07-2012 02:20 PM (10 years ago)
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Quote from: halalizzy on 25-07-2012 02:17 PM
scam 419 fraud etc are the business of wise people, genius. not for aboki or agboro bark  

    Is that why you dont mind selling your brothers and sister to make money?

    Is it true you guys eat you fellow dead biafrans during the way??? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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