I'm Confused On Why Christmas Is Celebrated On The 25th -- Tonto Dikeh (Page 4)

Date: 25-12-2013 11:50 am (7 years ago) | Author: Victor A. Ofoma
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- samsonaje at 26-12-2013 05:57 AM (7 years ago)
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Stupid girl like u.now u are confuse.when u are a kid.u and ur family celebrate it. Now u feel say u get small money u want just say or add to phyuking things happen around the world. Goat like u
Posted: at 26-12-2013 05:57 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- ajanni at 26-12-2013 06:25 AM (7 years ago)
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Posted: at 26-12-2013 06:25 AM (7 years ago) | Grande Master
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- meetafo at 26-12-2013 06:46 AM (7 years ago)
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One of the most popular theories and commonly taught explanations for why Christmas is on Dec. 25 is that the early church placed Christian holidays at times of Roman celebration to co-opt the local pagan festivals.

Christians placed Christmas on Dec. 25 to co-opt Saturnalia, the mid-winter festival, or possibly the Festival of the Unconquered Sun — Sol Invictus. The theory went that Christians could get the heathen to convert by co-opting their holidays.

There is one problem — it sounds more convincing than it is. These theories did not start growing until the 12th century and became popular only once comparative religion became trendy, after the 18th century. Going back to the earliest Christian church finds evidence that Christmas, though not initially celebrated, had starting being commemorated well before the Feast of the Unconquered Sun’s creation for entirely Christian reasons.

In Egypt, less than 300 years after Christ’s death, some Christians celebrated his birth in the spring. As the Biblical Archeology Society has noted, the earliest references to Christmas come at about 200 A.D., at a time Christians were not incorporating other religious traditions into their own. By 300 A.D., many Christians were celebrating his birth around Dec. 25. Within 100 years, Christmas was on the calendar record. Christians looked to December because the early church was far more interested in Jesus’ death. His death and resurrection is what matters to the Gospel, and that was the date the early church focused on.

“Around 200 A.D., Tertullian of Carthage reported the calculation that the 14th of Nisan in the year Jesus died was the equivalent to March 25 in the Roman calendar,” said Andrew McGowan last year at the Biblical Archaeology Society. That would be the day of Crucifixion. The math from there is rather simple. Nine months later would be Dec. 25. Early church history held as fact that the prophets and martyrs of the church were conceived on the day they died. So if Christ died on March 25, it was also the anniversary of his conception.

Separately, and more directly from the Bible, Luke 1 tells us Zacharias, John the Baptist’s father, was in the priestly division of Abijah. Based on a calculation of this and the division of priest in the temple in 70 A.D. when the temple fell, a number of early church historians presumed Zacharias would have been in the temple in early October. Later historians, however, speculate it would have been June. The Gospel of Luke tells us when Zacharias left the temple, his wife conceived. “In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David,” Luke 1:25-26 notes.

Six months after Zacharias left the temple would be March as Mary’s time of conception. Fast forward nine months and again we find ourselves in December. With the very earliest Church fathers settling on March 25 as Christ’s death and believing fully that Christ’s death would occur on the anniversary of his conception, the early church reinforced its belief well before there is any written accusation or evidence of the church incorporating Saturnalia or Sol Invictus into its celebrations. It is important to note, however, that most scholars reject setting Christ’s birth to Zacharias’s temple service because of problems related to really knowing when he was there.

But there are three final points. One can look at all of this and conclude the church fathers got it wrong. But the real question is whether they themselves thought they got it wrong. They were pretty sure they were right. The earliest Christians refused to celebrate birthdays, but by 300 A.D., there was growing evidence the church had noted Christ’s birthday around Dec. 25.

Second, some of the earliest traditions of the early church held that Christ was born on what would be a Wednesday. This year, we too celebrate Christ’s birth on a Wednesday.

Finally, the date of Christ’s birth is not important. What is important is that he is.
Posted: at 26-12-2013 06:46 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- agabusowl at 26-12-2013 06:55 AM (7 years ago)
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Its not possible for Jesus christ to be born in the month of December. The book of Luke chapter 2 says that it was at the time of a census and that the shepherds were at the the field tending to there flocks when it happened. Now in Isreal and Palestine, the month of december is a winter month, hence everywhere is covered in snow, including d fields. it is not possible to graze flocks when the snow is out. So if actually the sheperds were in the field, it wouldnt be a december
Secondly, Ceasar couldnt have asked for a census when everywhere is cold, during winter because the road would be too difficult to travel on. in ancient times, people travelled less during winter cos even the tiny footpaths then are always covered in snow, nd d cold is always unbearable for someone to be outside for long. I watched some of the Nigerian pilgrims who said recently on NTA that Isreal is very cold this december and evry where is coverd in snow.
I am a christian, and I believe Jesus is the saviour of the world, but i dont believe he was born in the month of december. The actual date of his birth rests in the secret files of the papacy who held sway over Europe in the middle ages. Were our reasons, imaginations, emotions and interests not engaged, we would not and could not learn.
Posted: at 26-12-2013 06:55 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- emma4love3 at 26-12-2013 08:35 AM (7 years ago)
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Tonto...shuld go her mother dat qution...
Posted: at 26-12-2013 08:35 AM (7 years ago) | Hero
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- henrymomoh at 26-12-2013 08:46 AM (7 years ago)
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Everyone does not celebrate birthday the exalt day he or she was born. Dec. 25th is set aside for the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ that does not mean He was Born that  day.
Posted: at 26-12-2013 08:46 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- ajanni at 26-12-2013 08:52 AM (7 years ago)
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Posted: at 26-12-2013 08:52 AM (7 years ago) | Grande Master
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- osalove247 at 26-12-2013 09:15 AM (7 years ago)
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WHY DO WE ASSUME THINGS IN IGNORANCE?


There are two crucial dates that are omitted from the Bible not by mistake but by Divine acts. The dates are the day Jesus was born and the day He returns.

Some people say that the whole world and churches agreed (but I call it a conspiracy and lie) to celebrate His birth on December 25 while some others argue that it is October or other times.

Why have they not come together to agree on when He will return?

Again, some say what we agree on earth is accepted by God so does it mean that if the whole world and even the churches finally accept gay marriage (which we are seeing now and we even have gay Bishops and pastors), does it mean God will also be forced to accept and sign it? I leave these questions for you to ponder on my friends.
Posted: at 26-12-2013 09:15 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- mensch at 26-12-2013 09:35 AM (7 years ago)
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One thing i think Jesus want from us is listening to his word and putting it into action. Our Lord is less intressed when he was born.
Posted: at 26-12-2013 09:35 AM (7 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- sallyxy at 26-12-2013 09:47 AM (7 years ago)
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Quote from: drekelly on 25-12-2013 12:39 PM
christmas is on the 25th of december instead of 26th october d actuall dai jesus was born accordin to hebrew calender...cos his birth was used to replace d pegan worship of a sun a God which was on.d 25th of december
Posted: at 26-12-2013 09:47 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- dannygwags at 26-12-2013 10:13 AM (7 years ago)
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tonto is just a big fool...she talks out of frustration and stupidity...wat do she even know about christianity. does she even read the bible at all. thats the only thing she was able to grab from genesis to revelation. trying to create a mountain out of a mull hill. God and change it or help the world find a better day to celebrate it. lousy BITCH...
Posted: at 26-12-2013 10:13 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- Lykemyke at 26-12-2013 10:22 AM (7 years ago)
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Big upps 2 Newbie & Gistmaniac,u av said it all.Hope dez msgs gets to Tonto.
Posted: at 26-12-2013 10:22 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- kennynaija at 26-12-2013 11:02 AM (7 years ago)
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I can believe that people are now aware of the CONFUSED RELIGION, SMH Tongue

Posted: at 26-12-2013 11:02 AM (7 years ago) | Gistmaniac
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- edunaija at 26-12-2013 11:17 AM (7 years ago)
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Angesco, you are right. What is important is the celebration of the birth of Christ which is the essence of christmas. It is not the date that is celebrated. After all some of us have had cause to postpone or shift our birthday celebrations to another day. You celebrate your birthday and not the date you were born. Tontoh Dike, stop begging for publicity. You are confused because you are not confused. You are just looking for attention. Onye ara.
Posted: at 26-12-2013 11:17 AM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- vic4sure at 26-12-2013 12:06 PM (7 years ago)
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SO, YOU THAT TALK WHAT WILL YOU SAY AS SHE SAID THAT SHE IS CONFUSE?
Posted: at 26-12-2013 12:06 PM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- vic4sure at 26-12-2013 12:08 PM (7 years ago)
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SO YOU THAT IS THE WRITER WHAT DO YOU ON WHAT SHE SAID?
Posted: at 26-12-2013 12:08 PM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- Familyman4 at 26-12-2013 01:02 PM (7 years ago)
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Xmas is not about what date but recalling 2 we sinner dat a SAVIOUR was born....
Posted: at 26-12-2013 01:02 PM (7 years ago) | Newbie
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- ajanni at 26-12-2013 01:09 PM (7 years ago)
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Posted: at 26-12-2013 01:09 PM (7 years ago) | Grande Master
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- SexyYomi at 26-12-2013 01:20 PM (7 years ago)
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Tonto you are right on point. Any person who wants to strug off the fact that there is no mention of it in the bible, should continue following man made ideas. Grin
Posted: at 26-12-2013 01:20 PM (7 years ago) | Upcoming
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- akinmanchy at 26-12-2013 01:23 PM (7 years ago)
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Hmmm...Food for thought!

Posted: at 26-12-2013 01:23 PM (7 years ago) | Hero
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