![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 13-09-2011 10:17 AM (12 years ago)  (f) Williams100, the Shroud of Turin is a medieval fake. That's beyond doubt.
The existence of Nazareth and a place called Golgotha aren't any kind evidence for Yeshuah Meshiach's divinity. | Posted: at 13-09-2011 10:17 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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Williams100, the Shroud of Turin is a medieval fake. That's beyond doubt.(really??.can you give me a proof on this?)
The existence of Nazareth and a place called Golgotha aren't any kind evidence for Yeshuah Meshiach's divinity.(really?if they aren't,what then is/are the evidence?or there aren't?if there aren't,how then do you explain it to the approximately 2.2 billion people in the world who subscribe to the christian faith that their religion and all is nothing but fake from the onset or perhaps imaginary?) | Posted: at 14-09-2011 03:12 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 14-09-2011 10:30 PM (12 years ago) (f) The Shroud has been accurately carbon-dated to the 14th century, and no amount of bluster can change that. In the end, if people have faith, that's their belief, but it doesn't change facts or history. Christianity isn't fake; it's just not the only game in town. | Posted: at 14-09-2011 10:30 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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The Shroud has been accurately carbon-dated to the 14th century, and no amount of bluster can change that.
In the end, if people have faith, that's their belief, but it doesn't change facts or history. Christianity isn't fake; it's just not the only game in town.
we are in a unanimous agreement to the highlighted statement in blue... but as for the highlighted one in red,am at odds with it as i still haven't seen a proof of it yet. | Posted: at 15-09-2011 04:34 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 15-09-2011 04:55 PM (12 years ago) (m) ...every other "game" were copied from True Christainity and supposedly modified and improved on... ...Almighty Christainity rules...others runs a marathon...!!! | Posted: at 15-09-2011 04:55 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 15-09-2011 11:55 PM (12 years ago) (f) The Shroud has been accurately carbon-dated to the 14th century, and no amount of bluster can change that.
In the end, if people have faith, that's their belief, but it doesn't change facts or history. Christianity isn't fake; it's just not the only game in town. we are in a unanimous agreement to the highlighted statement in blue... but as for the highlighted one in red,am at odds with it as i still haven't seen a proof of it yet. Do your own research. | Posted: at 15-09-2011 11:55 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 15-09-2011 11:57 PM (12 years ago) (f) ...every other "game" were copied from True Christainity and supposedly modified and improved on...
...Almighty Christainity rules...others runs a marathon...!!! Christianity and Islam were copied from Judaism. Shintoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, and Asatruar, to name a few, owe nothing to "True Christianity". | Posted: at 15-09-2011 11:57 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "chik001") chik001 at 16-09-2011 03:52 PM (12 years ago) (m) ...every other "game" were copied from True Christainity and supposedly modified and improved on...
...Almighty Christainity rules...others runs a marathon...!!! Christianity and Islam were copied from Judaism. Shintoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, and Asatruar, to name a few, owe nothing to "True Christianity". ...True Christainity...which is not a religion; but a way God designed to relate with humanity...has been into existence before your list of religions. | Posted: at 16-09-2011 03:52 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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The Shroud has been accurately carbon-dated to the 14th century, and no amount of bluster can change that.
In the end, if people have faith, that's their belief, but it doesn't change facts or history. Christianity isn't fake; it's just not the only game in town. we are in a unanimous agreement to the highlighted statement in blue... but as for the highlighted one in red,am at odds with it as i still haven't seen a proof of it yet. Do your own research. research is not good enough. | Posted: at 16-09-2011 10:52 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 17-09-2011 02:01 PM (12 years ago) (f) The Shroud has been accurately carbon-dated to the 14th century, and no amount of bluster can change that.
In the end, if people have faith, that's their belief, but it doesn't change facts or history. Christianity isn't fake; it's just not the only game in town. we are in a unanimous agreement to the highlighted statement in blue... but as for the highlighted one in red,am at odds with it as i still haven't seen a proof of it yet. Do your own research. research is not good enough. So how are you going to get the proof that you're demanding? | Posted: at 17-09-2011 02:01 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 17-09-2011 02:02 PM (12 years ago) (f) ...every other "game" were copied from True Christainity and supposedly modified and improved on...
...Almighty Christainity rules...others runs a marathon...!!! Christianity and Islam were copied from Judaism. Shintoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, and Asatruar, to name a few, owe nothing to "True Christianity". ...True Christainity...which is not a religion; but a way God designed to relate with humanity...has been into existence before your list of religions. The religion of true Christianity didn't exist before Year Zero at the earliest. Don't try that discredited waffle again or I'll know that you have nothing. | Posted: at 17-09-2011 02:02 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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The Shroud has been accurately carbon-dated to the 14th century, and no amount of bluster can change that.
In the end, if people have faith, that's their belief, but it doesn't change facts or history. Christianity isn't fake; it's just not the only game in town. we are in a unanimous agreement to the highlighted statement in blue... but as for the highlighted one in red,am at odds with it as i still haven't seen a proof of it yet. Do your own research. research is not good enough. So how are you going to get the proof that you're demanding? cammy,i don't need further research to get as you put it 'proof that you're demanding' cause they are nothing but drug in the market widespread to poison the mind of hundreds of thousands of millions of people if not billions.i have seen lots of researches yester-years about the shroud and other things but,they all didn't prove to be valid thats what am still saying and stressing. there are sources/links dating back to 2005 till date that confirmed that the shroud is not medieval fake and proved the carbon 14 dating concept wrong.. still,am waiting to see a new intel that will prove otherwise....until then,am sticking to the idea of it been aunthentic. sometimes, these whole research and trying to prove stuffs can really be a constipation of ideas nothing more. hey!!seems like we are digressing too much here now don't you think?(lets save the shroud for another topic) back to the topic of discussion shall we? | Posted: at 17-09-2011 10:43 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 18-09-2011 03:06 PM (12 years ago) (f) Sounds like you're afraid of the facts. If you truly wanted the facts you'd look for them and not come up with 'drug in the market' drivel. It's not just the carbon tests that prove the Shroud isn't fair dinkum; it's the fact that it's nothing like a Jewish burial shroud, that the anatomy is totally skewed, and that we have no record of its existence before the 14th century, among others. | Posted: at 18-09-2011 03:06 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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not quite,i should be the one to tell you maybe you are afraid of pasting me the fact and your source(s).cause i have good sources dating back to 2005 till 2011 giving me intel of the shroud been authentic.now you were the one who said is a fake.paste me your proof/source and not telling me to do research.... if you have the proof of it,display it and defend your claim.. | Posted: at 19-09-2011 11:12 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "democrazy") democrazy at 20-09-2011 02:25 AM (12 years ago) (m) let's find facts, those that can lead us to proof!! remember the shroud being genuine or fake has nothing to do with Jesus Christ and can never be proven to be a burial cloth, not one that was used to bury Jesus christ. But I dont want to dwell in that, let's go to the root of things. The centre of christianity and our current view of modern civilization lies in Egypt. Eventhe centre of Muslim or Jewish religion also lies in Egypt This is a fact! why? In all historical encounters, the Egyptians where the ones that kept very good solid and coherent documentation of their chronicles that covered the geo-political, socio-economic, military records and even covered the daily life activities in a way that left not much room for second guessing or speculation. The magnificent legacy of colossal wonders of masonry and engineering and the highly religious texts and moral teachings is the fact that they where a unique civilization .So where does christianity come into the Egyptian History? Most of our Knowledge on Egypt, Isrealites, The pharoahs, and Yahweh were introduced to us(present peoples of today) via the bible. The Hebrew Bible is the one narrative that managed to convince the world with its stories of some Pharaoh and Hebrew slaves that, it alone, monopolized the truth about the history of ancient Egypt. Most of the scholars of the history of the ancient Near East for nearly two millennia relied primarily on the Bible as a scientific reference and in doing so they simply followed what the Hebrew scribes wrote, or better yet tampered with in the history of ancient Egypt and blindly took it for granted.How can the account of Egyptian history be wrong or falsified? With clear and visible documentation as presented in Egypt, it should not be difficult to check information, discuss them, and back them up with facts. But you need to understand and be able to interprete the ancient Egyptian language, whiuch was written in hieroglyphs. Well, would it be possible to summerize that that language eventually became extinct between the beginning of the persian conquest of 525BC through to Alenandra the greats conquest till around 395AD. Meaning there was no public figure known during 400AD to 1822AD that could interprete hieroglyphs accurately. I said 1822AD as this was the time Jean-François Champollion, the French philologist managed to decipher the hieroglyphs in his arduous task and breakthrough of translating the Rosetta stone. ...........brb | Posted: at 20-09-2011 02:25 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "democrazy") democrazy at 20-09-2011 04:28 AM (12 years ago) (m) continued.... You can find the proof of Jean-François Champollion's existence in history books or in particular egytomology literatures and his body lies buried at Grave of Champollion in Père Lachaise Cemetery (Paris). What he did was show that most of the previous translation of Egyptian hieroglyphs where wrong and mistranslated. I did go to the louvre museums myself and saw a few of his work and some of the artifacts they stole from Kemet "the valley of kings".So as not to bore you let's see a few things uncovered. The Declaration of Innocence from the Book of the Dead, Translated by E.A. Wallis Budge, c.1240 BCE
Please note that according to proper egyptian traslation, the book of the dead is known as "The book of the coming forth by day" and is used to guide the spirit of the dead in it's after life journey. This book in question is dated at least 1200 years before christ and it's existence and creative history can be checked as it is normally contained in a cofin as part of a burial object. The ancient egyptians believed in after life which is suported by the knowledge that a human's lifetime flashes into his memory seconds before he looses his life. This they refer to as judgement time and is also dipicted on the image on the Papyrus of Hunefer (ca. 1275 B.C.). The "book of the dead is also written in Egyptian hieroglyphs on Papyrus. So what is important about The book of the coming forth by day? It outdates the bible and contains the same commandments supposedly given to Moses, but instead there as 42 of them and known as forty-two negative confessions. I will also like to go ahead and proof, if i can, that there was never any act of slavery of Isrealites by the Egytians, nor was there any exodus of the Isrealites from Egypt. You should know that if the Egyptians kept this much record, something as BIG as 10 plaques, the 1st sons of all egyptians dying, and an entire enslaved tribe being freed, will surely find it's ways into Egyptian political records. Moses was not even mentioned.......brb | Posted: at 20-09-2011 04:28 AM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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![-]( "Bukaz44") Bukaz44 at 20-09-2011 06:22 AM (12 years ago) (m) The message of the CROSS,[CHRISTIANITY]is to them that perish foolishness,but to us which are saved,it is the power of GOD. | Posted: at 20-09-2011 06:22 AM (12 years ago) | Newbie | |
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![-]( "Bukaz44") Bukaz44 at 20-09-2011 06:24 AM (12 years ago) (m) That's 1corinthians 1-18. But dear read all the verses. | Posted: at 20-09-2011 06:24 AM (12 years ago) | Newbie | |
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![-]( "CammyWhite") CammyWhite at 20-09-2011 01:54 PM (12 years ago) (f) not quite,i should be the one to tell you maybe you are afraid of pasting me the fact and your source(s).cause i have good sources dating back to 2005 till 2011 giving me intel of the shroud been authentic.now you were the one who said is a fake.paste me your proof/source and not telling me to do research....
if you have the proof of it,display it and defend your claim.. Actually, since you mentioned the Shroud first, the burden of proof is on you. | Posted: at 20-09-2011 01:54 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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not quite,i should be the one to tell you maybe you are afraid of pasting me the fact and your source(s).cause i have good sources dating back to 2005 till 2011 giving me intel of the shroud been authentic.now you were the one who said is a fake.paste me your proof/source and not telling me to do research....
if you have the proof of it,display it and defend your claim.. Actually, since you mentioned the Shroud first, the burden of proof is on you. the burden of proof is on me?.. really?....how hilarious. if you are satisfied that your claim is right,then stick to your guns.... | Posted: at 21-09-2011 10:55 PM (12 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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