It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
The only problem you ppl have is reading what you don't know and having little or no understanding of what you read. Let me tell you, you can't read the holy book with such negative mind and expect to understand anything.During the baptism of christ, God himself spoke"This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22. Go down and you will find more answers to some of those mind cuddling comments you here about trinity. The trinity doctrine is expressed in verses 16-17. God the Father speaks from heaven, God the Son is baptized, and God the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus. I'm not posting this for you to believe b/c its obvious that your mind is made up, but just make you realize b/4 you post anything that you are just scampering for lies to dent the Christian world which you know is no longer possible Posted: at 4-02-2011 03:43 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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mubaji at 4-02-2011 06:51 PM (14 years ago) (m) It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
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enoeno at 4-02-2011 07:18 PM (14 years ago) (f) It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
i pity u for it is u, ur family and ur generations that is a thing i can sense that u never in life respect ur biological parent that why u call my heavenly father the savoiur of the world (thing) i cannot curse u for if i do u'll sulely suffer it for the Bible say the power of life and death are in our tongue so i forgive u. so u see d problem u pple have is u never want to accept the truth and that is the reason u guys turn them upside down ur reward is coming very soon for it is written "A man who strays from the path of understanding comes to rest in the company of the dead" (Proverbs 21:16). "Whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36). "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48). "Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only' ' " (Matthew 4:10, emphasis ours). "Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth" (Revelation 2:6) Posted: at 4-02-2011 07:18 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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mubaji at 4-02-2011 08:34 PM (14 years ago) (m) i pity u for it is u, ur family and ur generations that is a thing i can sense that u never in life respect ur biological parent that why u call my heavenly father the savoiur of the world (thing) i cannot curse u for if i do u'll sulely suffer it for the Bible say the power of life and death are in our tongue so i forgive u. so u see d problem u pple have is u never want to accept the truth and that is the reason u guys turn them upside down ur reward is coming very soon for it is written "A man who strays from the path of understanding comes to rest in the company of the dead" (Proverbs 21:16). "Whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36). "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48). "Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only' ' " (Matthew 4:10, emphasis ours). "Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth" (Revelation 2:6)
This discussant is very funny, do you know what you said at the beginning of your comment and how you ended up. You ended like this: "i cannot curse u for if i do u'll surely suffer it…". At the beginning you wrote "i pity u for it is u, ur family and ur generations that is a thing i can sense that u never in life respect ur biological parent…". Is that beginning a prayer or word of praise for that guy, his father and generations? i reject it on his behalf because as Qur'an commands me to tell you "Say to those who reject Faith: Soon will ye be vanquished and gathered together to Hell,-an evil bed indeed (to lie on)! " Q 3 vs 12 Posted: at 4-02-2011 08:34 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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BONZ at 4-02-2011 09:03 PM (14 years ago) (m) It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
The only problem you ppl have is reading what you don't know and having little or no understanding of what you read. Let me tell you, you can't read the holy book with such negative mind and expect to understand anything.During the baptism of christ, God himself spoke"This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22. Go down and you will find more answers to some of those mind cuddling comments you here about trinity. The trinity doctrine is expressed in verses 16-17. God the Father speaks from heaven, God the Son is baptized, and God the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus. I'm not posting this for you to believe b/c its obvious that your mind is made up, but just make you realize b/4 you post anything that you are just scampering for lies to dent the Christian world which you know is no longer possible The bottom-line is u cannot use the corrupted, polluted, contaminated bible as a point of reference, it no longer holds weight for for it has been distorted over centuries and centuries, and what you all read are the words of men and not God. U cannot understand that for you have eyes but u cannot see, you have ears but u cannot hear, uve been brainwashed and besides the few of you tht are saved, the majority will come to know when it is too late. I pity all of you, for your life of eternal despair awaits you. Islam is the only way. Xtianity is but the biggest lie the world has ever known. Mark my words, whether in this life or the next, you will one day come to know, tht is a promise.
A man who stands for nothing, will fall for anything. Posted: at 4-02-2011 09:03 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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mubaji at 4-02-2011 09:38 PM (14 years ago) (m) @ Abduul, the hadith that girl quoted an authentic hadith which can be found In Sirah (History) books under topics discussing about "the death of Prophet Muhammad" (PBUH). but you must know that a christian is not the one to tell you the meaning of the sayings of your own Prophet (they do not believe in Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), you know. even if they do, like this one is cunninglydoing, your teachings should be taken from reliable scholars not from a christian who is finding a way to mislead you). as for the Hadith, here is the transliteration form: Allahumo igfir lii, war hamni, wa alhiknii bi rrafiiki l a'laa. the underlined part is what she is using to justify her false claims; "...LIFT ME TO THE MOST HIGH FRIEND..." that Hadith is telling about what happens before any Prophet dies that they are all asked to choose between staying alive or going back to The Most High -the creator. in the first instance as she cited, an Angel was doing the questionning and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) answered with prayer so when it was time to take away his-soul, he finally raised His Pure Hand towards the heaven, laid down and passed away. Aisha (RTA) was the one who clearly heard the conversation between Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Angel. brother abduul don't be suprised of her claims, you no christianity's clumsy tenet calls Jesus God and vice versa -it's one of their void beliefs which is against Islam's Doctrine. if you ask any of them, they'll say you can't understand until you come into their darkness which they call light. i used to tell them that they are intellectually backward since they can't solve a simple arithmetic they claim "1+1+1 = 1". Posted: at 4-02-2011 09:38 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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BONZ at 5-02-2011 12:37 AM (14 years ago) (m) It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
i pity u for it is u, ur family and ur generations that is a thing i can sense that u never in life respect ur biological parent that why u call my heavenly father the savoiur of the world (thing) i cannot curse u for if i do u'll sulely suffer it for the Bible say the power of life and death are in our tongue so i forgive u. so u see d problem u pple have is u never want to accept the truth and that is the reason u guys turn them upside down ur reward is coming very soon for it is written "A man who strays from the path of understanding comes to rest in the company of the dead" (Proverbs 21:16). "Whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36). "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48). "Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only' ' " (Matthew 4:10, emphasis ours). "Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth" (Revelation 2:6)Pity me? Save ur pity for the weak. Like I always say in my mssges. Stop using the bible to justify ur claims coz we don't consider it worthy. In a nutshell lakum deenu kum wal ya deen. Do ur religion for I will do mine.
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abduuul at 5-02-2011 12:28 PM (14 years ago) (m) @ Abduul, the hadith that girl quoted an authentic hadith which can be found In Sirah (History) books under topics discussing about "the death of Prophet Muhammad" (PBUH). but you must know that a christian is not the one to tell you the meaning of the sayings of your own Prophet (they do not believe in Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), you know. even if they do, like this one is cunninglydoing, your teachings should be taken from reliable scholars not from a christian who is finding a way to mislead you). as for the Hadith, here is the transliteration form: Allahumo igfir lii, war hamni, wa alhiknii bi rrafiiki l a'laa. the underlined part is what she is using to justify her false claims; "...LIFT ME TO THE MOST HIGH FRIEND..." that Hadith is telling about what happens before any Prophet dies that they are all asked to choose between staying alive or going back to The Most High -the creator. in the first instance as she cited, an Angel was doing the questionning and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) answered with prayer so when it was time to take away his-soul, he finally raised His Pure Hand towards the heaven, laid down and passed away. Aisha (RTA) was the one who clearly heard the conversation between Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Angel. brother abduul don't be suprised of her claims, you no christianity's clumsy tenet calls Jesus God and vice versa -it's one of their void beliefs which is against Islam's Doctrine. if you ask any of them, they'll say you can't understand until you come into their darkness which they call light. i used to tell them that they are intellectually backward since they can't solve a simple arithmetic they claim "1+1+1 = 1".
@mubaji: thanks alot, but you should also know that nobody can mislead me from the truth. And as i ask her to tell me about the volume and books, i want to find if she really knows what she is quoting or not. that significe that she just quoted the hadith without having knowledge of hadith just for her to get a relief from what i said about Christianity. this is what he said in Arabic "ILARRAFIQIL A ALA" . So my brother do not worry about my style of approach. Lastly, I thank you very much for your own observation and i need more from you Brother. Thanks alot. Posted: at 5-02-2011 12:28 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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ajanni at 5-02-2011 09:59 PM (14 years ago) (m) @ Abduuul Early records report that "God comforted him through her, for she made his burden light." Although polygamy was common practice at the time, Muhammad took no other wife than Khadija until her death 24 years later.so mohammed married a wife on earth before he dies? have you EVER seen or heard in any where that JESUS (the saviour of the world) ever married? if yes explained to me where you see or heard if not why are u (muslims) comparing mohammed with him? tell me. because Jesus the son of God was with God even from the beginning of the world,God the father, the son and the Holy Spirit. the sin was so much on earth that then if u say to some one ur a fool, you sacrifice a ram for cleansing of your soul it was so much that God wanted us to know that Sin Requires Shedding of Blood Under the Old Testament law, the penalty for men’s sins (that were not punishable by death) was the sacrifice of an animal’s life. The shedding of blood was required to atone for their sin. We might wonder why such a terrible thing was required by God. Why were innocent little lambs and doves slain and their blood sprinkled on the altar? Perhaps we can understand this if we place ourselves in the situation of being instructed to kill an animal for telling a lie or committing some other sin. When one must kill an innocent animal because of his sin, it illustrates the awfulness of sin. God wanted man to understand that when he sinned, it meant death for something or someone. If we were still under the Old Testament law today, we would be required to take a little lamb and kill it for our sins. This would be difficult for most of us because we would cringe at the thought of slaying anything innocent. The Lord wanted us to realize that the penalty of sin would cause a life to be taken. When people had to take a little dove and bring it to be slain upon an altar as an offering for their sins, the impact of sin became real to them. Sin always requires a sacrifice.In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all (Hebrews 10:6-9). Today, we have the Spirit of God that cleanses us from our sins as we confess them. Jesus was the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, and His death and shed blood paid the price for sin once and for all. No longer does an animal need to be offered for our sins. so my pples(muslims) lets say the truth by calling spade a spade don't harden ur heart accept him (Jesus) today and be saved. Mary was a virgin who knew no man and the angel of the Lord propheciSE to her that SHE'LL CONCISE and she ask that how can she concise she doesn't sleep with any man and the angel told her she will concise through Holy spirit and she'll born the Emmanuel Christ with us the savoiur of the world he died a shameful death on the cross of calvary so tell me why u pple compare Jesus with Mohammed and what makes u pple think so mohammed married but Jesus never did becos he did not come into the worl d for that he came for a purpose and that was His death on the cross to save who ever that believe in him and he rose on the third day and now he is at the right hand of God so tell me is it like this with ur mohammed        ? any of u who wants to respond to this should give a reasonable answer pls. It seems that you still has the idear of trinity from yor above statements. Did you really know what is called a holy spirit? Look just because jesus die (as you claim) without being married you jump to conclusion that he is a savior of the world. How many people die without having married? are they also saviors? Pls the next time give concrete reasons. Look if you people are insulting our prophet, you should know that you are not the first to do that and many non muslims that are far better than you in anything of this world and religion has a very good comment to him. Once again I thank God that All of them that comment about him are not Muslims. Here are just some of the comment of Non Muslims about Muhammad(S.A.W). Non-Muslim Opinions of Muhammad (PBUH)The following quotes of famous non-Muslim personalities have been compiled from numerous sources. On close analysis, one naturally comes to the conclusion that anyone who truly studies this Man is in awe of the person of Muhammad (PBUH).
The following extract has been taken from the book "The 100 - a Ranking of the Most Influential Person in History" by Michael H. Hart, a Christian American, an astronomer, a mathematician, a chess master, and a scientist. After extensive research, he rated prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as number one and to be considered as the most influential single figure in human history.
"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential person may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. Furthermore, Muhammad (unlike Jesus) was a secular as well as religious leader. In fact, as the driving force behind the Arab conquests, he may well rank as the most influential political leader of all time. It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence, which I feel, entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history."
Mahatma Gandhi, speaking on the character of Muhammad, (pbuh) says in (Young India):
"I wanted to know the best of one who holds today's undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind. I became more than convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to this friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the 2nd volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of the great life."
Additionally, other non-Muslims have written their opinions concerning Muhammad (PBUH):
"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knew how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel, whenever I reread them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher."
Annie Besant in "The Life and Teachings of Mohammad"
"Muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten."
Diwan Chand Sharma, "The Prophets of the East"
"People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on the other hand, and Alexander, Caesar on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all time was Mohammad, who combined all the three functions. To a lesser degree Moses did the same."
Jules Masserman in "Who Were Histories Great Leaders?" TIME Magazine.
"Head of State as well as Church, he was Caesar and Pope in One; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by right Divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life."
Reverend Bosworth Smith in "Muhammad and Muhammadanism"
"Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man Muhammad, who of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race. To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God."
Dr. William Draper, M.D. L.L.D. in "History of Intellectual Development of Europe"
"In little more than a year he was actually the spiritual, nominal and temporal ruler of Medina, with his hands on the lever that was to shake the world."
John Austin, "Muhammad the Prophet of Allah" in T.P.'s and Cassel's Weekly
"Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was super human; to subvert superstitions which had been imposed between man and his Creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing. Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he Muhammad had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design, no other instrument than himself and no other aid except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God's name, Persia, Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean Sea, Spain and part of Gaul.
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls. The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?
Alphonse de LaMartaine in "Historie de la Turquie"
"The league of nations founded by the Prophet of Islam put the principle of international unity of human brotherhood on such Universal foundations as to show candle to other nations. The fact is that no nation of the world can show a parallel to what Islam has done - the realization of the idea of the League of Nations."
C. Snouck Hurgronje, "Where Christian and Mohammedan Meet" Finally I suggest that if you cannot Read about him and know his life( Not what they telling you at the church) you should leave our prophet Alone. Next time I will come up with the Topic Doctrine of Trinity, Because you don't even know what the bible called Holy spirit. Well, i don't know where you got all those from , but God himself acknowledged Jesus as his son and our savior during his baptism, so any other quotation that is not from the bible is fake , i don't know what you are saying how will you ever knows what he is saying ? since the religion you said you are practising , you practically knows noting about it , useless anima, Posted: at 5-02-2011 09:59 PM (14 years ago) | Grande Master | |
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ajanni at 5-02-2011 10:03 PM (14 years ago) (m) if actually jesus does not said he is a son of GOD , so why attributing lies to him ?
@ ajanni i notice u are fone of quoting d Holy Bible 2 tell lies haven't u also seen this before that say Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son." John 14:12-13what barvail me alot is that even when u known d truth u refuse to follow it i pity u but may God help u that u don't perish "Whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36). "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48). "My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. 'Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children' " (Hosea 4:6). you are a lier, i have not at any time quot a single verse in bible before now , so what are you talking ? Posted: at 5-02-2011 10:03 PM (14 years ago) | Grande Master | |
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ajanni at 5-02-2011 10:06 PM (14 years ago) (m) It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
ALLAHU AKBAR Posted: at 5-02-2011 10:06 PM (14 years ago) | Grande Master | |
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ajanni at 5-02-2011 10:09 PM (14 years ago) (m) i pity u for it is u, ur family and ur generations that is a thing i can sense that u never in life respect ur biological parent that why u call my heavenly father the savoiur of the world (thing) i cannot curse u for if i do u'll sulely suffer it for the Bible say the power of life and death are in our tongue so i forgive u. so u see d problem u pple have is u never want to accept the truth and that is the reason u guys turn them upside down ur reward is coming very soon for it is written "A man who strays from the path of understanding comes to rest in the company of the dead" (Proverbs 21:16). "Whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36). "There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day" (John 12:48). "Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only' ' " (Matthew 4:10, emphasis ours). "Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth" (Revelation 2:6)
This discussant is very funny, do you know what you said at the beginning of your comment and how you ended up. You ended like this: "i cannot curse u for if i do u'll surely suffer it…". At the beginning you wrote "i pity u for it is u, ur family and ur generations that is a thing i can sense that u never in life respect ur biological parent…". Is that beginning a prayer or word of praise for that guy, his father and generations? i reject it on his behalf because as Qur'an commands me to tell you "Say to those who reject Faith: Soon will ye be vanquished and gathered together to Hell,-an evil bed indeed (to lie on)! " Q 3 vs 12
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truenaija2 at 6-02-2011 11:34 AM (14 years ago) (f) why are you people responding to thier comments the bible said we should not argue the bible if you tell them and they dont want to hear leave them alone we will all account for our words on the last day so let them continue murdering and maiming thier own people thats the right religion breeding up murderers if they are maimed they wont be able to type only GOD is judge Posted: at 6-02-2011 11:34 AM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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peterachor at 6-02-2011 12:01 PM (14 years ago) (m) Hey hey hey this not a place to do compare and contracts pls all u ppl should look 4 smth else to discourse and stop all this fao languages one love to u all. Posted: at 6-02-2011 12:01 PM (14 years ago) | Newbie | |
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mubaji at 6-02-2011 03:23 PM (14 years ago) (m) @ Abduul, the hadith that girl quoted an authentic hadith which can be found In Sirah (History) books under topics discussing about "the death of Prophet Muhammad" (PBUH). but you must know that a christian is not the one to tell you the meaning of the sayings of your own Prophet (they do not believe in Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), you know. even if they do, like this one is cunninglydoing, your teachings should be taken from reliable scholars not from a christian who is finding a way to mislead you). as for the Hadith, here is the transliteration form: Allahumo igfir lii, war hamni, wa alhiknii bi rrafiiki l a'laa. the underlined part is what she is using to justify her false claims; "...LIFT ME TO THE MOST HIGH FRIEND..." that Hadith is telling about what happens before any Prophet dies that they are all asked to choose between staying alive or going back to The Most High -the creator. in the first instance as she cited, an Angel was doing the questionning and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) answered with prayer so when it was time to take away his-soul, he finally raised His Pure Hand towards the heaven, laid down and passed away. Aisha (RTA) was the one who clearly heard the conversation between Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and the Angel. brother abduul don't be suprised of her claims, you no christianity's clumsy tenet calls Jesus God and vice versa -it's one of their void beliefs which is against Islam's Doctrine. if you ask any of them, they'll say you can't understand until you come into their darkness which they call light. i used to tell them that they are intellectually backward since they can't solve a simple arithmetic they claim "1+1+1 = 1".
@mubaji: thanks alot, but you should also know that nobody can mislead me from the truth. And as i ask her to tell me about the volume and books, i want to find if she really knows what she is quoting or not. that significe that she just quoted the hadith without having knowledge of hadith just for her to get a relief from what i said about Christianity. this is what he said in Arabic "ILARRAFIQIL A ALA" . So my brother do not worry about my style of approach. Lastly, I thank you very much for your own observation and i need more from you Brother. Thanks alot. Baarakallahu fiik Posted: at 6-02-2011 03:23 PM (14 years ago) | Gistmaniac | |
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ajanni at 7-02-2011 12:06 AM (14 years ago) (m) AMIN Posted: at 7-02-2011 12:06 AM (14 years ago) | Grande Master | |
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abduuul at 7-02-2011 10:33 AM (14 years ago) (m) why are you people responding to thier comments the bible said we should not argue the bible if you tell them and they dont want to hear leave them alone we will all account for our words on the last day so let them continue murdering and maiming thier own people thats the right religion breeding up murderers if they are maimed they wont be able to type only GOD is judge
We know how it will end already. That is what your pastors are telling you that you should always avoid Muslims. To tell you the truth, your pastors are cheating you for telling you not to here the truth. At the Day of judgment, we will see who is who. But any way I pray to God(ALLAH) to show you the Truth before you Die. Posted: at 7-02-2011 10:33 AM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
The only problem you ppl have is reading what you don't know and having little or no understanding of what you read. Let me tell you, you can't read the holy book with such negative mind and expect to understand anything.During the baptism of christ, God himself spoke"This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22. Go down and you will find more answers to some of those mind cuddling comments you here about trinity. The trinity doctrine is expressed in verses 16-17. God the Father speaks from heaven, God the Son is baptized, and God the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus. I'm not posting this for you to believe b/c its obvious that your mind is made up, but just make you realize b/4 you post anything that you are just scampering for lies to dent the Christian world which you know is no longer possible The bottom-line is u cannot use the corrupted, polluted, contaminated bible as a point of reference, it no longer holds weight for for it has been distorted over centuries and centuries, and what you all read are the words of men and not God. U cannot understand that for you have eyes but u cannot see, you have ears but u cannot hear, uve been brainwashed and besides the few of you tht are saved, the majority will come to know when it is too late. I pity all of you, for your life of eternal despair awaits you. Islam is the only way. Xtianity is but the biggest lie the world has ever known. Mark my words, whether in this life or the next, you will one day come to know, tht is a promise. hahahahahahaha, but you can use the terrorist manual called koran Posted: at 7-02-2011 02:25 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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@ Abduuul Early records report that "God comforted him through her, for she made his burden light." Although polygamy was common practice at the time, Muhammad took no other wife than Khadija until her death 24 years later.so mohammed married a wife on earth before he dies? have you EVER seen or heard in any where that JESUS (the saviour of the world) ever married? if yes explained to me where you see or heard if not why are u (muslims) comparing mohammed with him? tell me. because Jesus the son of God was with God even from the beginning of the world,God the father, the son and the Holy Spirit. the sin was so much on earth that then if u say to some one ur a fool, you sacrifice a ram for cleansing of your soul it was so much that God wanted us to know that Sin Requires Shedding of Blood Under the Old Testament law, the penalty for men’s sins (that were not punishable by death) was the sacrifice of an animal’s life. The shedding of blood was required to atone for their sin. We might wonder why such a terrible thing was required by God. Why were innocent little lambs and doves slain and their blood sprinkled on the altar? Perhaps we can understand this if we place ourselves in the situation of being instructed to kill an animal for telling a lie or committing some other sin. When one must kill an innocent animal because of his sin, it illustrates the awfulness of sin. God wanted man to understand that when he sinned, it meant death for something or someone. If we were still under the Old Testament law today, we would be required to take a little lamb and kill it for our sins. This would be difficult for most of us because we would cringe at the thought of slaying anything innocent. The Lord wanted us to realize that the penalty of sin would cause a life to be taken. When people had to take a little dove and bring it to be slain upon an altar as an offering for their sins, the impact of sin became real to them. Sin always requires a sacrifice.In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all (Hebrews 10:6-9). Today, we have the Spirit of God that cleanses us from our sins as we confess them. Jesus was the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, and His death and shed blood paid the price for sin once and for all. No longer does an animal need to be offered for our sins. so my pples(muslims) lets say the truth by calling spade a spade don't harden ur heart accept him (Jesus) today and be saved. Mary was a virgin who knew no man and the angel of the Lord propheciSE to her that SHE'LL CONCISE and she ask that how can she concise she doesn't sleep with any man and the angel told her she will concise through Holy spirit and she'll born the Emmanuel Christ with us the savoiur of the world he died a shameful death on the cross of calvary so tell me why u pple compare Jesus with Mohammed and what makes u pple think so mohammed married but Jesus never did becos he did not come into the worl d for that he came for a purpose and that was His death on the cross to save who ever that believe in him and he rose on the third day and now he is at the right hand of God so tell me is it like this with ur mohammed        ? any of u who wants to respond to this should give a reasonable answer pls. It seems that you still has the idear of trinity from yor above statements. Did you really know what is called a holy spirit? Look just because jesus die (as you claim) without being married you jump to conclusion that he is a savior of the world. How many people die without having married? are they also saviors? Pls the next time give concrete reasons. Look if you people are insulting our prophet, you should know that you are not the first to do that and many non muslims that are far better than you in anything of this world and religion has a very good comment to him. Once again I thank God that All of them that comment about him are not Muslims. Here are just some of the comment of Non Muslims about Muhammad(S.A.W). Non-Muslim Opinions of Muhammad (PBUH)The following quotes of famous non-Muslim personalities have been compiled from numerous sources. On close analysis, one naturally comes to the conclusion that anyone who truly studies this Man is in awe of the person of Muhammad (PBUH).
The following extract has been taken from the book "The 100 - a Ranking of the Most Influential Person in History" by Michael H. Hart, a Christian American, an astronomer, a mathematician, a chess master, and a scientist. After extensive research, he rated prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as number one and to be considered as the most influential single figure in human history.
"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential person may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels. It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. Furthermore, Muhammad (unlike Jesus) was a secular as well as religious leader. In fact, as the driving force behind the Arab conquests, he may well rank as the most influential political leader of all time. It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence, which I feel, entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history."
Mahatma Gandhi, speaking on the character of Muhammad, (pbuh) says in (Young India):
"I wanted to know the best of one who holds today's undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind. I became more than convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to this friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the 2nd volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of the great life."
Additionally, other non-Muslims have written their opinions concerning Muhammad (PBUH):
"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knew how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel, whenever I reread them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher."
Annie Besant in "The Life and Teachings of Mohammad"
"Muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten."
Diwan Chand Sharma, "The Prophets of the East"
"People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on the other hand, and Alexander, Caesar on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all time was Mohammad, who combined all the three functions. To a lesser degree Moses did the same."
Jules Masserman in "Who Were Histories Great Leaders?" TIME Magazine.
"Head of State as well as Church, he was Caesar and Pope in One; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by right Divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life."
Reverend Bosworth Smith in "Muhammad and Muhammadanism"
"Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man Muhammad, who of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race. To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God."
Dr. William Draper, M.D. L.L.D. in "History of Intellectual Development of Europe"
"In little more than a year he was actually the spiritual, nominal and temporal ruler of Medina, with his hands on the lever that was to shake the world."
John Austin, "Muhammad the Prophet of Allah" in T.P.'s and Cassel's Weekly
"Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was super human; to subvert superstitions which had been imposed between man and his Creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing. Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he Muhammad had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design, no other instrument than himself and no other aid except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God's name, Persia, Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean Sea, Spain and part of Gaul.
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls. The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?
Alphonse de LaMartaine in "Historie de la Turquie"
"The league of nations founded by the Prophet of Islam put the principle of international unity of human brotherhood on such Universal foundations as to show candle to other nations. The fact is that no nation of the world can show a parallel to what Islam has done - the realization of the idea of the League of Nations."
C. Snouck Hurgronje, "Where Christian and Mohammedan Meet" Finally I suggest that if you cannot Read about him and know his life( Not what they telling you at the church) you should leave our prophet Alone. Next time I will come up with the Topic Doctrine of Trinity, Because you don't even know what the bible called Holy spirit. Well, i don't know where you got all those from , but God himself acknowledged Jesus as his son and our savior during his baptism, so any other quotation that is not from the bible is fake , i don't know what you are saying how will you ever knows what he is saying ? since the religion you said you are practising , you practically knows noting about it , useless anima, ajanni the son of fithy rubbish you called mother, your dirty and smelly mother is still out thereon the street, yet you claim being human. what kind of human being will see his mother the way your mother is and let her be like that . i have nothing to do with a dirty teeth foreign dog like you, you are too dirty minded, all you know is how to kill innocent ppl you idle and crippled terrorist go first take your smelly mother out there before coming here that you are not needed Posted: at 7-02-2011 02:32 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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It is blasphemous to assign a son to the Almighty. Jesus was so many things, in Islam he is revered, respected, his character was flawless, he had the power through the Almighty to perform miracles, signs and wonders. However he is not what xtians think of him, he was but human and nothing more. There is nowhere in the bible that he says "I am the son of God" or "I am God". Islam is the key to salvation and redemption, a lot of people fear Islam because of undesirable elements that lay claim to it and Unfortunately prejudice and hatred of it clouds peoples judgement. People are converting to Islam by the day, and majority are xtian folk. Google the rise of Islam in the west.
The only problem you ppl have is reading what you don't know and having little or no understanding of what you read. Let me tell you, you can't read the holy book with such negative mind and expect to understand anything.During the baptism of christ, God himself spoke"This is my son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22. Go down and you will find more answers to some of those mind cuddling comments you here about trinity. The trinity doctrine is expressed in verses 16-17. God the Father speaks from heaven, God the Son is baptized, and God the Holy Spirit descends on Jesus. I'm not posting this for you to believe b/c its obvious that your mind is made up, but just make you realize b/4 you post anything that you are just scampering for lies to dent the Christian world which you know is no longer possible The bottom-line is u cannot use the corrupted, polluted, contaminated bible as a point of reference, it no longer holds weight for for it has been distorted over centuries and centuries, and what you all read are the words of men and not God. U cannot understand that for you have eyes but u cannot see, you have ears but u cannot hear, uve been brainwashed and besides the few of you tht are saved, the majority will come to know when it is too late. I pity all of you, for your life of eternal despair awaits you. Islam is the only way. Xtianity is but the biggest lie the world has ever known. Mark my words, whether in this life or the next, you will one day come to know, tht is a promise. i will never believe in a manual that teaches terrorism and only tells me to go kill innocent ppl in the name of whatever god. How do you think that the world will go bad to the extent that football stadiums will no longer be used for games but for stoning ppl to death?, amputation of hungry thieves and killing of innocent ppl b/c the don't believe in your religion. To tell you the fact that will signify the end of the world Posted: at 7-02-2011 02:38 PM (14 years ago) | Upcoming | |
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