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Quote from: ganster-kid on 21-01-2011 02:29 PM Quote from: ajanni on 20-01-2011 10:08 PM you want to abuse this gentle man too , i doubt if ever you are a human at all , white monkey ajanni you should address yourself as such b/c that exactly what you are, born on the road, brought up on the street, grew up as a miscreant, and became a man as a terrorist. your history ajanni is is really pitiable, unfortunately, you will remain cursed until you decide to be a human just like any other human come out from the cave s and stop killing innocent ppl in what ever name. then think of going back to your father lan donkey head ganster , you had forgotten your history so , and the moment you remember your history , you will actually knows where you come from , bad boy , and more stupid than the talkandslave , the vagabond son of a slave , born as slave and wil die as slave , much more useless than a useless animal
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Quote from: ajanni on 22-01-2011 05:25 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 21-01-2011 02:29 PM Quote from: ajanni on 20-01-2011 10:08 PM you want to abuse this gentle man too , i doubt if ever you are a human at all , white monkey ajanni you should address yourself as such b/c that exactly what you are, born on the road, brought up on the street, grew up as a miscreant, and became a man as a terrorist. your history ajanni is is really pitiable, unfortunately, you will remain cursed until you decide to be a human just like any other human come out from the cave s and stop killing innocent ppl in what ever name. then think of going back to your father lan donkey head ganster , you had forgotten your history so , and the moment you remember your history , you will actually knows where you come from , bad boy , and more stupid than the talkandslave , the vagabond son of a slave , born as slave and wil die as slave , much more useless than a useless animal ahahahahahahaha jaki fcker from Niger, do u really know the meaning of slavery?. now describe yourself and your likes on the streets of every Nigerian town giving birth like dogs and coming to beg on the street with new born baby. With u on the mountain putting up next attack, your wife and that your new kid is on the street begging for daily bread, don't that islam confer on you certain responsibility?. its a pity for your history is simply that of curse and suffering continue in the name of your alla 
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Quote from: ganster-kid on 22-01-2011 01:09 PM Quote from: ajanni on 22-01-2011 05:25 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 21-01-2011 02:29 PM Quote from: ajanni on 20-01-2011 10:08 PM you want to abuse this gentle man too , i doubt if ever you are a human at all , white monkey ajanni you should address yourself as such b/c that exactly what you are, born on the road, brought up on the street, grew up as a miscreant, and became a man as a terrorist. your history ajanni is is really pitiable, unfortunately, you will remain cursed until you decide to be a human just like any other human come out from the cave s and stop killing innocent ppl in what ever name. then think of going back to your father lan donkey head ganster , you had forgotten your history so , and the moment you remember your history , you will actually knows where you come from , bad boy , and more stupid than the talkandslave , the vagabond son of a slave , born as slave and wil die as slave , much more useless than a useless animal ahahahahahahaha jaki fcker from Niger, do u really know the meaning of slavery?. now describe yourself and your likes on the streets of every Nigerian town giving birth like dogs and coming to beg on the street with new born baby. With u on the mountain putting up next attack, your wife and that your new kid is on the street begging for daily bread, don't that islam confer on you certain responsibility?. its a pity for your history is simply that of curse and suffering continue in the name of your alla
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Quote from: faggo on 22-01-2011 01:46 PM Quote from: ganster-kid on 22-01-2011 01:09 PM Quote from: ajanni on 22-01-2011 05:25 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 21-01-2011 02:29 PM Quote from: ajanni on 20-01-2011 10:08 PM you want to abuse this gentle man too , i doubt if ever you are a human at all , white monkey ajanni you should address yourself as such b/c that exactly what you are, born on the road, brought up on the street, grew up as a miscreant, and became a man as a terrorist. your history ajanni is is really pitiable, unfortunately, you will remain cursed until you decide to be a human just like any other human come out from the cave s and stop killing innocent ppl in what ever name. then think of going back to your father lan donkey head ganster , you had forgotten your history so , and the moment you remember your history , you will actually knows where you come from , bad boy , and more stupid than the talkandslave , the vagabond son of a slave , born as slave and wil die as slave , much more useless than a useless animal ahahahahahahaha jaki fcker from Niger, do u really know the meaning of slavery?. now describe yourself and your likes on the streets of every Nigerian town giving birth like dogs and coming to beg on the street with new born baby. With u on the mountain putting up next attack, your wife and that your new kid is on the street begging for daily bread, don't that islam confer on you certain responsibility?. its a pity for your history is simply that of curse and suffering continue in the name of your alla WELL SAID FAGGO. I LIKE YOUR STYLE. IN ZAKA FADI, FADI GASKIYA, KOMAI TA JA MA A YI MAKA
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Quote from: cadanre on 22-01-2011 06:48 PM Quote from: faggo on 22-01-2011 01:46 PM Quote from: ganster-kid on 22-01-2011 01:09 PM Quote from: ajanni on 22-01-2011 05:25 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 21-01-2011 02:29 PM Quote from: ajanni on 20-01-2011 10:08 PM you want to abuse this gentle man too , i doubt if ever you are a human at all , white monkey ajanni you should address yourself as such b/c that exactly what you are, born on the road, brought up on the street, grew up as a miscreant, and became a man as a terrorist. your history ajanni is is really pitiable, unfortunately, you will remain cursed until you decide to be a human just like any other human come out from the cave s and stop killing innocent ppl in what ever name. then think of going back to your father lan donkey head ganster , you had forgotten your history so , and the moment you remember your history , you will actually knows where you come from , bad boy , and more stupid than the talkandslave , the vagabond son of a slave , born as slave and wil die as slave , much more useless than a useless animal ahahahahahahaha jaki fcker from Niger, do u really know the meaning of slavery?. now describe yourself and your likes on the streets of every Nigerian town giving birth like dogs and coming to beg on the street with new born baby. With u on the mountain putting up next attack, your wife and that your new kid is on the street begging for daily bread, don't that islam confer on you certain responsibility?. its a pity for your history is simply that of curse and suffering continue in the name of your alla WELL SAID FAGGO. I LIKE YOUR STYLE.
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Quote from: cadanre on 21-01-2011 04:33 PM Quote from: chik001 on 18-01-2011 07:39 PM Shadow-chaser... ok... did Allah really give Mohammed the Koran on or in the cave... or mountain...and who is/was there with him to testify...?  chik0000000000000001 why aren't you answering the question? Just answer the question first, then you can rise a counter question. The last time I checked The Holy Bible...I saw this: ... v16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: …v17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Mathew 3:16 - 17 I too am a son of God...because... ...But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: John 1:12
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Quote from: ganster-kid on 17-01-2011 03:43 PM well, the wisdom is made for believers and if you want to know, accept him as ur personal God and savior then ur eyes will open, apart from that follow your damned ways and see where u will end up. plz before i go did ur mohammed kill during his time on earth if so , then i think UN should start criminal investigations to ware the option of post-Mortem trial against him Animal will always be an animal. You see, what a shame on you that you manage to response first but you cannot quote any verse from the book you said you are following. Among the fools you are a big fool. Even though you are full of sentimentality, click on the site below and know who is Muhammad(PBUH). Did Jesus has such a Miracle?? Use sentiment free mind(which you will never do) and judge. BANZA JAKI KAWAI.. http://web.archive.org/web/20070703080924/islamyesterday.com/science/statements.htm
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Quote from: ganster-kid on 22-01-2011 01:09 PM Quote from: ajanni on 22-01-2011 05:25 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 21-01-2011 02:29 PM Quote from: ajanni on 20-01-2011 10:08 PM you want to abuse this gentle man too , i doubt if ever you are a human at all , white monkey ajanni you should address yourself as such b/c that exactly what you are, born on the road, brought up on the street, grew up as a miscreant, and became a man as a terrorist. your history ajanni is is really pitiable, unfortunately, you will remain cursed until you decide to be a human just like any other human come out from the cave s and stop killing innocent ppl in what ever name. then think of going back to your father lan donkey head ganster , you had forgotten your history so , and the moment you remember your history , you will actually knows where you come from , bad boy , and more stupid than the talkandslave , the vagabond son of a slave , born as slave and wil die as slave , much more useless than a useless animal ahahahahahahaha jaki fcker from Niger, do u really know the meaning of slavery?. now describe yourself and your likes on the streets of every Nigerian town giving birth like dogs and coming to beg on the street with new born baby. With u on the mountain putting up next attack, your wife and that your new kid is on the street begging for daily bread, don't that islam confer on you certain responsibility?. its a pity for your history is simply that of curse and suffering continue in the name of your alla Is better for me to beg than to be born out of wedlock. Go and ask the old people in your area to tell you more about your history. Most of you are prostitutes in the name of pure water selling. In your area people most close and jamb up their doors or else they will be among the victims of women rape. That is how most of you were born. Stupid ignorant...
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29 segxwally Explicit, Profane and Dirty Stories and Verses in the Bible Reply1. Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her. [Judges 16:1] 2. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. [Genesis 19:33-36] 3. And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: [Genesis 35:22] 4. And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. [Genesis 38:2] 5. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. [Genesis 38:8-9] 6. When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. [Genesis 38:15-18] 7. And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister. And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly. And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for he will not withhold me from thee. Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her. [2 Samuel 13:11-14] 8. So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom went in unto his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel. [2 Samuel 16:22] 9. Thou hast played the wh*re also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. [Ezekiel 16:28] 10. And they committed wh*redoms in Egypt; they committed wh*redoms in their youth: there were their Bosom s pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. [Ezekiel 23:3] 11. And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her wh*redoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her wh*redoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the Bosom s of her virginity, and poured their wh*redom upon her. [Ezekiel 23:5-8] 12. And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her wh*redoms more than her sister in her wh*redoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her wh*redoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their wh*redom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her wh*redoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her wh*redoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. [Ezekiel 23:11-21] 13. My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of wh*redoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God. [Hosea 4:12] 14. I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the wh*redom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled. [Hosea 6:10] 15. Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. [Hosea 9:1] 16. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. [Genesis 9:21] 17. And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets? [1 Samuel 19:24] 18. Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! [2 Samuel 6:20] 19. So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. [Isaiah 20:4] 20. And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding, Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house, In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night: And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him, I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows. Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee. I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed. With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; [Proverbs 7:7-22] 21. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. [Isaiah 13-15] 22. And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. [Deuteronomy 22:17] 23. While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof. A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my Bosom s. [Song of Solomon 1:12-13] 24. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. [Song of Solomon 4:5] 25. I am a wall, and my Bosom s like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour. [Song of Solomon 8:10] 26. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. [Numbers 31:18] 27. This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy Bosom s to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy Bosom s shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; [Song of Solomon 7:7-8] 28. And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. [2 Samuel 11:4] 29. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins. [Song of Solomon 7:3] To this you call BOOK OF GOD ? dam ! and yes…if you think we are wrong,pls correct us!
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KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM.. WHO SAYS? THE BIBLE SAYS!!! ReplyKill them wherever you find them….. Stone to death those who leave your religion…. Kill all the men, take the booty…. Kill all the boys…. kill the girls who have had sex… Keep the virgins for yourself…… Kill the missionaries from other religions…. All of these things have been attributed to Islam, but after dilligent resarch I believe that these things have been attributed to the wrong religion and book. Below we show that these things actually are found in the bible healed dear by the adherents to the Jewish and Christian faith. (the Judeo-Christian version) According to the “Bible” God tells Moses and Aaron to go to the Midianites and kill all the men, then take the booty, take all women and children back to their encampments, then kill all the mothers (because they had sex), then to kill all the boys, and finally to take all the virgins as slaves: Book of Numbers… 13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp. 14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. 15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. 19 And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day. [KJV Numbers 31:13-19] Stone them to death who leave your religion for an infidel religion: Book of dueteronomy… 1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God. 2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. [KJV Deuteronomy 17:1-5] Stone them to death who try to convert you to another religion: Book of dueteronomy… 6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. [KJV Deuteronomy 13:6-10] IS the ABOVE NOT TERRORISM?
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10 Reasons why Jesus is not God! Reply1- Jesus is not all knowing: Mark 24: 32-36: 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only God is all-knowing, Jesus fails this main qualification. This alone is enough to prove that Jesus is not God. Also note the verse says ONLY the Father meaning nobody else, including the divine Jesus. 2- Jesus never said I am God. Is this a coincidence? I think not. If you make a claim on someone, then you would expect that someone to back your claim up. If I claim somebody is a king, you would expect that king to say he is a king, at least once. In the OT God says he is God several times, why not once with Jesus in the NT? Did God change his ways? I think not, since the OT says God does not change. Here are the passages from the OT where God says he is God: Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins Gen 46:3 And he said, I [am] God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation: Exd 16:12 I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel: speak unto them, saying, At even ye shall eat flesh, and in the morning ye shall be filled with bread; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD your God. Exd 20:2 I [am] the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I [am] God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth. Psa 50:7 Hear, O my people, and I will speak; O Israel, and I will testify against thee: I [am] God, [even] thy God. Psa 81:10 <span>I [am] the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it. Isa 41:10 Fear thou not; for I [am] with thee: be not dismayed; for I [am] thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness. Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call [thee] by thy name, [am] the God of Israel. Isa 45:5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Jer 32:27 Behold, I [am] the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me? Eze 13:9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD. Eze 20:19 I [am] the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; Eze 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I [am] the LORD your God. Eze 23:49 And they shall recompense your lewdness upon you, and ye shall bear the sins of your idols: and ye shall know that I [am] the Lord GOD. So as we can see, God is not shy to say I am God. SO if Jesus is God, then how come he never said it once like the God of the OT? This is not a coincidence. 3- Jesus is the son of man, the OT tells us not to trust the son of man: The New Testament makes it very clear that Jesus is the son of man: Mat 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head. Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. Luk 9:44 Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. Luk 9:22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day. Jhn 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. The Old Testament tells us not to put our trust in the son of man: Psalms 146: 1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. 2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. 3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. So note, Jesus is the son of man, the OT tells us not to put our trust in the son of man; therefore we cannot place our trust in Jesus so he cannot be God. The OT is basically saying that you shouldn’t put your trust in men as you do with God, so hence we cannot put our trust in Jesus in the same way we do with God since Jesus is just a man, and he cannot really save us. So hence Jesus cannot be God. 1- Jesus is the son of man 2- The OT tells us not to put our trust in the son of man 3- We cannot put our trust in Jesus as we do with God 4- Jesus is not God The OT also tells us that there is no help in the son of man, therefore this means Jesus cannot help anybody, therefore he is not God since God can help all. So we cannot place our trust in Jesus, nor can he help us, therefore he cannot be God according to the OT. 4- Jesus was GIVEN power and authority, he did not own it. As we all know, God is all-powerful and is independent, he needs no help from anybody. However so this is not the case with Jesus, unlike God, Jesus needs help from God, unlike God, Jesus does not own any power or any authority, rather it is given to him from God. Jhn 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; John 17:6-8: 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that ALL THINGS whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me So as we can see, Jesus GIVEN everything he had! This all included miracle, doctrine etc. Basically Jesus did not do anything of his own, he never performed a miracle by his own power, he was given the miracle. He never taught anything of his own, rather he was taught by God and spoke what God told him to speak. Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Jhn 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me. So everything Jesus had was from God, from the Gospel to his miracles. God needs no one to give him power, God needs no one to tell him what to do, therefore Jesus is not God. I challenge any Christian to bring me one single miracle Jesus performed on his own, just one. The Christian will never be able to meet this challenge. 5- Jesus was sent to a specific nation only, not to mankind It is very strange that when we read the Bible, we find that Jesus was sent to preach to a specific nation only, not mankind. One would expect to find Jesus being sent to all of mankind if he was God, rather what we find is that Jesus just like all the other prophets, was sent to a specific nation only: Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. So as we see, Jesus was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel. His main duty was for them, not the gentiles or the world. Christians often like to say Jesus told his disciples to go preach to the gentiles, however so this doesn’t change anything. Jesus’ real mission as we see was for the children of Israel, not the gentiles, the verse I posted cannot be refuted. The verse is very clear, Jesus is SENT for the lost sheep of Israel, not the Gentiles, Jesus saying go preach to Gentiles does not mean he was sent for gentiles. 6- Jesus denied being good in the sense that God is good. If Jesus is God one would expect him to admit he is good in the sense that God is good, meaning perfect. However when we read the Bible we see that Jesus denies being good in the sense that God is good which is perfect. Here are the passages: Mat 19:16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. So note, the man calls Jesus good, Jesus tells the man there is non good but God. Obviously Jesus referred to God as someone else, which also proves Jesus isn’t God. However the main importance of the passages is that Jesus denies being Good in the way God is good, which is to be perfect. 7- Jesus could not save anyone The Bible also claims that Jesus cannot save anyone! Here is the passage: Hebrews 5:1-8: 1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: 2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity. 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins. 4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. 5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered So Jesus cried to the one who could save him from death, this means Jesus could not save himself from death, therefore this also means Jesus cannot save anyone else from death. How can Jesus be God when he cannot save anyone? This also shows that Jesus is not in control of life and death, God however is in control of everything, including life and death: And they have taken besides Him gods, who do not create anything while they are themselves created, and they control not for themselves any harm or profit, <span>and they control not death nor life, nor raising (the dead) to life</span>. S. 25:3 Shakir This verse is from the Noble Quran, I guess this sums it all up doesn’t it? 7- Jesus’ believers did NOT believe he was God neither One of the greatest Christian myths is that Jesus’ followers believed he was God. However so, this is not true, the Bible says otherwise: Matthew Chapter 16 13-14 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets So as we can see, the believers out of the population did not take Jesus as God, they took him for a great man, such as John the Baptist, or Elias, or some others. None of them said he is God. Now let us read on and see what his own disciples took him for: 15-20 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. So note, now Jesus asks his disciples about what they take him to be for, they respond by saying he is the SON OF GOD, Jesus agrees with them and tells them tell no man I am the Christ. So note, Jesus’ disciples do not say you are God, Jesus himself does not say he is God. Now both the son of God and the term Christ do not mean God. They never have, and never will. The term Christ means Messiah, the definition of Messiah is not God, and the Jews who were awaiting their Messiah did not believe the Messiah would be God: The predominant Jewish understanding of moshiach (“the messiah”) is based on the writings of Maimonides, (the Rambam). His views on the messiah are discussed in his Mishneh Torah, his 14 volume compendium of Jewish law, in the section Hilkhot Melakhim Umilchamoteihem, chapter 11. Maimonides writes: “The anointed King (“HaMelekh HaMoshiach”) is destined to stand up and restore the Davidic Kingdom to its antiquity, to the first sovereignty. He will build the Temple in Jerusalem and gather the strayed ones of Israel together. All laws will return in his days as they were before: Sacrificial offerings are offered and the Sabbatical years and Jubilees are kept, according to all its precepts that are mentioned in the Torah. Whoever does not believe in him, or whoever does not wait for his coming, not only does he defy the other prophets, but also the Torah and our Rabbi Moses. For the Torah testifies about him, thus: “And the Lord Your God will return your returned ones and will show you mercy and will return and gather you… If your strayed one shall be at the edge of Heaven… And He shall bring you” etc.” (Deuteronomy 30:3-5). “These words that are explicitly stated in the Torah, encompass and include all the words spoken by all the prophets. In the section of Torah referring to Bala’am, too, it is stated, and there he prophesied about the two anointed ones: The first anointed one is David, who saved Israel from all their oppressors; and the last anointed one will stand up from among his descendants and saves Israel in the end. This is what he says (Numbers 24:17-18): “I see him but not now” – this is David; “I behold him but not near” – this is the Anointed King. “A star has shot forth from Jacob” – this is David; “And a brand will rise up from Israel” – this is the Anointed King. “And he will smash the edges of Moab” – This is David, as it states: “…And he struck Moab and measured them by rope” (II Samuel 8:2); “And he will uproot all Children of Seth” – this is the Anointed King, of whom it is stated: “And his reign shall be from sea to sea” (Zechariah 9:10). “And Edom shall be possessed” – this is David, thus: “And Edom became David’s as slaves etc.” (II Samuel 8:6); “And Se’ir shall be possessed by its enemy” – this is the Anointed King, thus: “And saviors shall go up Mount Zion to judge Mount Esau, and the Kingdom shall be the Lord’s” (Obadiah 1:21).” “And by the Towns of Refuge it states: “And if the Lord your God will widen up your territory… you shall add on for you another three towns” etc. (Deuteronomy 19:8-9). Now this thing never happened; and the Holy One does not command in vain. But as for the words of the prophets, this matter needs no proof, as all their books are full with this issue.” “Do not imagine that the anointed King must perform miracles and signs and create new things in the world or resurrect the dead and so on. The matter is not so: For Rabbi Akiba was a great scholar of the sages of the Mishnah, and he was the assistant-warrior of the king Ben Coziba, and claimed that he was the anointed king. He and all the Sages of his generation deemed him the anointed king, until he was killed by sins; only since he was killed, they knew that he was not. The Sages asked him neither a miracle nor a sign…” “And if a king shall stand up from among the House of David, studying Torah and indulging in commandments like his father David, according to the written and oral Torah, and he will coerce all Israel to follow it and to strengthen its weak points, and will fight Hashem’s wars, this one is to be treated as if he were the anointed one. If he succeeded {and won all nations surrounding him. Old prints and mss.} and built a Holy Temple in its proper place and gathered the strayed ones of Israel together, this is indeed the anointed one for certain, and he will mend the entire world to worship the Lord together, as it is stated: “For then I shall turn for the nations a clear tongue, to call all in the Name of the Lord and to worship Him with one shoulder” (Zephaniah 3:9).” “But if he did not succeed until now, or if he was killed, it becomes known that he is not this one of whom the Torah had promised us, and he is indeed like all proper and wholesome kings of the House of David who died. The Holy One, Blessed Be He, only set him up to try the public by him, thus: “And from the seekers of wisdom there shall stumble, to purify among them and to clarify and to brighten until the time of the ending, for there is yet to the set time” (Daniel 11:35).” Taken from http://www.aish.com/tishabav/tishabavdefault/The_Messiah_in_Judaism.asp In Judaism, who is the Messiah? The messiah is a G-d fearing, pious Jew, who is both a great Torah scholar and a great leader as well. He is a direct descendent of King David, and will be anointed as the new Jewish King. (In fact, the Hebrew word for messiah – “Moshiach” – means “anointed one.”). When the messiah comes, there will be a universal recognition of the truth of Torah and the G-d Who gave that Torah at Mount Sinai. All Jews will return to the Land of Israel, where they will throw off the yoke of their enemies and undergo a complete spiritual revival. They will embrace the faith of their forefathers and dedicate themselves to G-d’s service forever. They will re-build the Holy Temple, from where the Divine presence will shine forth, spreading the light of truth, justice, tolerance and peace throughout the world. Taken from http://www.jewfaq.org/moshiach.htm The Moshiach The moshiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The moshiach is often referred to as “moshiach ben David” (moshiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments. (Isaiah 11:2-5) He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being. It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the moshiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person’s lifetime, then that person will be the moshiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the moshiach, then that person is not the moshiach. 8- Will you worship Jesus, or the one Jesus worshipped? One glaring problem the Christians have is that Jesus prayed, and had a God himself. This logically lets us conclude that Jesus cannot be God. The logical thing to do is worship and pray to the one Jesus prayed to. If Jesus told you that he had a God, would you honestly take Jesus as God? The logical answer is no, but Christians throw all logic out when it comes to their Bible. Matthew 26:36-44 36. Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to them, “Sit here while I go over there and pray.” 37. He took Peter and the two sons of Zebedee along with him, and he began to be sorrowful and troubled. 38. Then he said to them, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.” 39. Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” 40. Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. “Could you men not keep watch with me for one hour?” he asked Peter. 41. “Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak.” 42. He went away a second time and prayed, “My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done.” 43. When he came back, he again found them sleeping, because their eyes were heavy. 44. So he left them and went away once more and prayed the third time, SAYING THE SAME THING. So are you going worship the one Jesus prayed to? Or are you going to worship Jesus? Logically you worship the one Jesus prayed to. Secondly just say you were alive at Jesus’ time and you were with him, and you knew he prayed to God and so on, would you honestly believe he is God? Off course not! It gets worse as Jesus himself claims he has a God: John 20:16-18 : 16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the LORD, and that he had spoken these things unto her. Now tell me, if a man came to you and told you he has a God, would you honestly believe that man is God? No, you would not. Logic tells you if a man has a God then that man is not God, however Christians through logic at the window it seems, Christians want to worship Jesus, not the one Jesus worshiped. Christians want Jesus to be their God; they do not want Jesus’ God to be their God. What a shame. So Jesus prays and has a God, how un-Godly is that? 9- God comes out of a woman? God is a helpless baby? The very fact that Jesus was given birth, and came out as little helpless small baby is enough to refute the claim that Jesus is God. It is utter blasphemy to claim that God came out of a women like all people, it is utter blasphemy to claim God came out crying and screaming and being helpless and weak. Such nonsense is insulting to God; this itself is enough to prove Jesus is not God. How can you claim that God came out of a woman? Are you mad? Are you insane? How can you insult God in such a manner, you Christians should be ashamed of yourselves for ascribing such rubbish to God. So you are telling me God used to be like this child at one time? What rubbish blasphemy. Are you actually going to tell me this how God was once? You are insane! How can you logically claim that God was like this helpless baby at once? Let us see what God’s true word, the Noble Quran says on such blasphemies: 002.116 YUSUFALI: They say: “Allah hath begotten a son” :Glory be to Him.-Nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to Him. 019.035 YUSUFALI: It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is. 017.111 YUSUFALI: Say: “Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) dominion: Nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!” 004.171 YUSUFALI: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. 005.017 YUSUFALI: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: “Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every – one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things.” 005.076 YUSUFALI: Say: “Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things.” 10- The God of the Bible comes from incest! It may come as a shocker to most, but the Bible claims that Jesus comes from incest. Since Christians claim Jesus is God this means God came from incest, all you have to do is go look at the family line of Jesus and see for yourself. What makes this more sad is that Christians do not even know this information, they claim that you are a liar if you bring it up, or that you are disgusting etc. Here is the proof for all to see: Genesis 38: 1 And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah. 2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. 3 And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er. 4 And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him. 6 And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar. 7 And Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. 8 And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. 9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. 10 And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. 11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter in law, Remain a widow at thy father’s house, till Shelah my son be grown: for he said, Lest peradventure he die also, as his brethren did. And Tamar went and dwelt in her father’s house. 12 And in process of time the daughter of Shuah Judah’s wife died; and Judah was comforted, and went up unto his sheepshearers to Timnath, he and his friend Hirah the Adullamite. 13 And it was told Tamar, saying, Behold thy father in law goeth up to Timnath to shear his sheep. 14 And she put her widow’s garments off from her, and covered her with a vail, and wrapped herself, and sat in an open place, which is by the way to Timnath; for she saw that Shelah was grown, and she was not given unto him to wife. 15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. 16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? 17 And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? 18 And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. 19 And she arose, and went away, and laid by her vail from her, and put on the garments of her widowhood. 20 And Judah sent the kid by the hand of his friend the Adullamite, to receive his pledge from the woman’s hand: but he found her not. 21 Then he asked the men of that place, saying, Where is the harlot, that was openly by the way side? And they said, There was no harlot in this place. 22 And he returned to Judah, and said, I cannot find her; and also the men of the place said, that there was no harlot in this place. 23 And Judah said, Let her take it to her, lest we be shamed: behold, I sent this kid, and thou hast not found her. 24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by wh*redom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. 25 When she was brought forth, she sent to her father in law, saying, By the man, whose these are, am I with child: and she said, Discern, I pray thee, whose are these, the signet, and bracelets, and staff. 26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, She hath been more righteous than I; because that I gave her not to Shelah my son. And he knew her again no more. 27 And it came to pass in the time of her travail, that, behold, twins were in her womb. 28 And it came to pass, when she travailed, that the one put out his hand: and the midwife took and bound upon his hand a scarlet thread, saying, This came out first. 29 And it came to pass, as he drew back his hand, that, behold, his brother came out: and she said, How hast thou broken forth? this breach be upon thee: therefore his name was called Pharez. 30 And afterward came out his brother, that had the scarlet thread upon his hand: and his name was called Zarah. The names of the two kids who resulted out of this segxwal encounter between Judah and Tamar were Pharez and Zarah. Here is Jesus’ lineage according to Matthew 1: 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. 2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; 3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; 4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; 5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; 6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; 7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; 8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; 9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; 10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; 11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: 12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; 13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; 14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; 15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; 16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. 17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. So as you can see, Jesus’ family line comes down from this sick act of incest between father and daughter in law, this means the God of the Christians comes from incest! Such blasphemy is disgusting and utterly degrading to the true God and Christians should be ashamed of themselves. So as we clearly saw, Jesus cannot be God, if a Christian wants to continue believing Jesus is God, it is their own loss.
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Top Ten Ways to Know Christianity is False ReplyHere is my top ten list of ways to know Christianity is false. Enjoy. Number 10: Missionary Deception. Lying and deceiving is part of the Christian evangelic tradition, which started with the founder of Christianity, Paul. Every method of trickery is employed to catch the gullible, the poor, and the ignorant. The missionary is a vulture preying on the destitute and the disadvantaged. He is in the service of Satan and his call is evil. Number 9: Pagan Influence. The religion of Jesus the son of Mary, alayhi sallam, was the antithesis of paganism and idolatry. However during the first few centuries after Jesus, there was no consensus on such things as which texts to include in the Christian canon, the role of Mosaic law, or whether Jesus was a man, a man-god or God. As early Christians struggled to create an orthodox identity, politicians and other unscrupulous characters took advantage and shaped Christianity to secure their own places of power and influence. Pagan customs and idolatry were Christianized and became part of the orthodoxy. A religion claiming to speak for the one true God must be free from such influences. Number 8: The Bible is Inconsistent. There is nothing wrong with a book written over thousands of years to contain stylistic differences. However, if the source is the same unchanging and perfect God then we expect a consistent and coherent message throughout. The Bible suffers from drastic schizophrenic changes. God’s very nature gets turn upside-down. The changes are so great that it is impossible for someone to give an intelligent description of God’s nature based on the entire Bible. Number 7: Jesus Rejects Christians. The Jesus of the Bible rejects those that preached and taught in his name. He casts them aside and disassociates himself from them because their work was evil and they were evil. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21-23. This rejection is for the Trinitarian who ascribes Jesus as a partner to God, because there is nothing more evil and disgusting than ascribing a partner to God. Number 6: Jesus Isn’t God. And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. Luke 18:19 Does anything more need to be said? Number 5. Jesus is Unknown. No Christian knows Jesus. He is a mystery figure. There are arguments about what he looked like, what language he spoke, whether or not he ever married and whether or not he was crucified. Even the authors of the Bible are confused about him. Did he cry tears of blood out of fear for his impending death? What were his last words before he died on the cross? Did he leave Palestine and travel to Egypt as a youth? Was he killed on the day before or after Passover? On all these things the Bible gives conflicting answers. How strange that Jesus is so central to Christian theology and yet they are so ignorant about him. It might be that the only thing Christians and the Bible can agree on is that he existed! Number 4: The Bible witnesses against itself. The Bible tells us that the Bible is not from God. The word of God must be perfect (Psalms 19:7) but the Bible falls far short of perfection. What scribes write is in vain (Jeremiah 8:  and the Bible is the failed effort of scribe writing and changing what they inherited. Every verse in the Old Testament must be fall under one of the four categories: doctrine, reproof, correction or instruction in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16) but there are many examples of Old Testament verses that do not fall into any of those categories and could only be classified as pointless (example Judges 16:1). Since the Bible is telling us it is not from God, why do some claim that it is?Number 3: Jesus wasn’t Crucified or Resurrected. Christianity relies on the gory death of an innocent man. However, there are reasons to disregard its claim as an absurdity. The Bible is inconsistent in its description of the crucifixion. There is no independent attestations that it was a historical event. There was no need to sacrifice Jesus because the people were already forgiven. Early manuscripts do not contain the passion narrative. Many early Christians did not believe in the crucifixion. In short, there is no proof. Number 2: The Bible is corrupt. The original Torah, Psalms and Gospel have not reached us. What we do have today could not even be described as a copy of a copy of a copy. It is a copy of a copy of a copy of a mistranslation of a copy of a mistranslation of a copy of a copy of a rewrite of an account by someone who wasn’t a witness to the events. It is riddled with errors, contradictions, failed prophecies and unintelligible verses. As such, it is impossible to know what the message of the originals might have been and, therefore, impossible for reasonable people to put any trust in its conclusion. Number 1: Islam is Truth. Two opposing statements cannot both be true. If Islam is true then Christianity must be false and Islam is true. Free from the problems of Christianity, Islam is unique among faiths for its purity, perfection and its strict adherence to monotheism. There are no pagan influences or absurd stories. There is no filth or lies. There is only perfection. All praise and thanks belong to Allah for making me a Muslim and saving me from the kufr of the Christians. Have I got these right? What would be your top ten? 
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@Abduuul Replyi like this...believe me...I will like us to take this one after the other...where do you suggest we start...?
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Quote from: abduuul on 24-01-2011 12:07 PM 29 segxwally Explicit, Profane and Dirty Stories and Verses in the Bible 1. Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her. [Judges 16:1] 2. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. [Genesis 19:33-36] 3. And it came to pass, when Israel dwelt in that land, that Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father’s concubine: and Israel heard it. Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: [Genesis 35:22] 4. And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her. [Genesis 38:2] 5. And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother’s wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. [Genesis 38:8-9] 6. When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face. And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me? And he said, I will send thee a kid from the flock. And she said, Wilt thou give me a pledge, till thou send it? And he said, What pledge shall I give thee? And she said, Thy signet, and thy bracelets, and thy staff that is in thine hand. And he gave it her, and came in unto her, and she conceived by him. [Genesis 38:15-18] 7. And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister. And she answered him, Nay, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel: do not thou this folly. And I, whither shall I cause my shame to go? and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, I pray thee, speak unto the king; for he will not withhold me from thee. Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her. [2 Samuel 13:11-14] 8. So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom went in unto his father’s concubines in the sight of all Israel. [2 Samuel 16:22] 9. Thou hast played the wh*re also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied. [Ezekiel 16:28] 10. And they committed wh*redoms in Egypt; they committed wh*redoms in their youth: there were their Bosom s pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. [Ezekiel 23:3] 11. And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her wh*redoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her wh*redoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the Bosom s of her virginity, and poured their wh*redom upon her. [Ezekiel 23:5-8] 12. And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her wh*redoms more than her sister in her wh*redoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her wh*redoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their wh*redom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her wh*redoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her wh*redoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. [Ezekiel 23:11-21] 13. My people ask counsel at their stocks, and their staff declareth unto them: for the spirit of wh*redoms hath caused them to err, and they have gone a whoring from under their God. [Hosea 4:12] 14. I have seen an horrible thing in the house of Israel: there is the wh*redom of Ephraim, Israel is defiled. [Hosea 6:10] 15. Rejoice not, O Israel, for joy, as other people: for thou hast gone a whoring from thy God, thou hast loved a reward upon every cornfloor. [Hosea 9:1] 16. And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. [Genesis 9:21] 17. And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets? [1 Samuel 19:24] 18. Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself! [2 Samuel 6:20] 19. So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt. [Isaiah 20:4] 20. And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding, Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house, In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night: And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart. (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house: Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him, I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows. Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee. I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon. Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed. With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks; [Proverbs 7:7-22] 21. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished. [Isaiah 13-15] 22. And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. [Deuteronomy 22:17] 23. While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth the smell thereof. A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my Bosom s. [Song of Solomon 1:12-13] 24. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. [Song of Solomon 4:5] 25. I am a wall, and my Bosom s like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour. [Song of Solomon 8:10] 26. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. [Numbers 31:18] 27. This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy Bosom s to clusters of grapes. I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy Bosom s shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples; [Song of Solomon 7:7-8] 28. And David sent messengers, and took her; and she came in unto him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her uncleanness: and she returned unto her house. [2 Samuel 11:4] 29. Thy two Bosom s are like two young roes that are twins. [Song of Solomon 7:3] To this you call BOOK OF GOD ? dam ! and yes…if you think we are wrong,pls correct us! You guys kept going backwards to the old testament… Anyway…see one of the reason The Old testament was included in the Bible READ CAREFULLY… 1 Corinthians chapter 10 :1-12 v1. Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; v2. And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; v3. And did all eat the same spiritual meat; v4. And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. v5. But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. v6. Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. v7. Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. v8. Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. v9. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. v10.Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. v11. Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. v12.Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. The story of Samson’s and the rest teaches us that Indulgence in our sinful desires always brings disastrous consequences. Am not surprised that yous don't know what emphasis means...lol
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Quote from: abduuul on 24-01-2011 12:12 PM KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM.. WHO SAYS? THE BIBLE SAYS!!! old testament stuff again...this is where Mohammed copied most of the contents of the Koran...He wants to continue the old religion of Abraham and such...WE (Christians) live in a new testament covenant heralded by teachings of The Christ!!! Kill them wherever you find them….. Stone to death those who leave your religion…. Kill all the men, take the booty…. Kill all the boys…. kill the girls who have had sex… Keep the virgins for yourself…… Kill the missionaries from other religions…. All of these things have been attributed to Islam, but after dilligent resarch I believe that these things have been attributed to the wrong religion and book. Below we show that these things actually are found in the bible healed dear by the adherents to the Jewish and Christian faith. (the Judeo-Christian version) According to the “Bible” God tells Moses and Aaron to go to the Midianites and kill all the men, then take the booty, take all women and children back to their encampments, then kill all the mothers (because they had sex), then to kill all the boys, and finally to take all the virgins as slaves: Book of Numbers… 13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp. 14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. 15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. 19 And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day. [KJV Numbers 31:13-19] Stone them to death who leave your religion for an infidel religion: Book of dueteronomy… 1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God. 2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, 3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: 5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. [KJV Deuteronomy 17:1-5] Stone them to death who try to convert you to another religion: Book of dueteronomy… 6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. [KJV Deuteronomy 13:6-10] IS the ABOVE NOT TERRORISM?
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Quote from: abduuul on 24-01-2011 10:36 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 17-01-2011 03:43 PM well, the wisdom is made for believers and if you want to know, accept him as ur personal God and savior then ur eyes will open, apart from that follow your damned ways and see where u will end up. plz before i go did ur mohammed kill during his time on earth if so , then i think UN should start criminal investigations to ware the option of post-Mortem trial against him Animal will always be an animal. You see, what a shame on you that you manage to response first but you cannot quote any verse from the book you said you are following. Among the fools you are a big fool. Even though you are full of sentimentality, click on the site below and know who is Muhammad(PBUH). Did Jesus has such a Miracle?? Use sentiment free mind(which you will never do) and judge. BANZA JAKI KAWAI.. http://web.archive.org/web/20070703080924/islamyesterday.com/science/statements.htm first and foremost, alamajiri, i can't quote any verse FROM MY HOLY BOOK for debased minded dogs who already had his terrorist mind made up, for my bible is not for dogs, secondly arguing with u about my bible will be taking the word of TRUE God for granted b/c you you are too dirty minded to listen to the truth having been a murderer since your tender age ( in the name of miscreant called alamajiri) your father married your mother and was sleeping with ur mother and jaki at the same time what do i expect from product of such act?. The question is, did ur mohammed kill and tell u ppl to kill pple that don't believe in ur religion? did he inspire hatred against ppl of different faiths by so doing? Usman dan fodios jihad in the North, can we now define it as a war crime or terrorism in the present context? NKITA NWURU ANWU, BIKO GAA SACHA GODU EZE GWORO GI A TUPU MMADU AGBAPU EBEA, aboki n'esi isi, HUM HUM HUM HUM
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Quote from: abduuul on 24-01-2011 10:48 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 22-01-2011 01:09 PM Quote from: ajanni on 22-01-2011 05:25 AM Quote from: ganster-kid on 21-01-2011 02:29 PM Quote from: ajanni on 20-01-2011 10:08 PM you want to abuse this gentle man too , i doubt if ever you are a human at all , white monkey ajanni you should address yourself as such b/c that exactly what you are, born on the road, brought up on the street, grew up as a miscreant, and became a man as a terrorist. your history ajanni is is really pitiable, unfortunately, you will remain cursed until you decide to be a human just like any other human come out from the cave s and stop killing innocent ppl in what ever name. then think of going back to your father lan donkey head ganster , you had forgotten your history so , and the moment you remember your history , you will actually knows where you come from , bad boy , and more stupid than the talkandslave , the vagabond son of a slave , born as slave and wil die as slave , much more useless than a useless animal ahahahahahahaha jaki fcker from Niger, do u really know the meaning of slavery?. now describe yourself and your likes on the streets of every Nigerian town giving birth like dogs and coming to beg on the street with new born baby. With u on the mountain putting up next attack, your wife and that your new kid is on the street begging for daily bread, don't that islam confer on you certain responsibility?. its a pity for your history is simply that of curse and suffering continue in the name of your alla Is better for me to beg than to be born out of wedlock. Go and ask the old people in your area to tell you more about your history. Most of you are prostitutes in the name of pure water selling. In your area people most close and jamb up their doors or else they will be among the victims of women rape. That is how most of you were born. Stupid ignorant... let me ask you, are u also claiming nigerian, or your cursed and uncircumcised father told you you are shuwa arab from Niger and chad?. Even cow would claim Nigerian identity  . U see,your tribe is a rejected tribe in the arab world and thats why you are in every street in nigeria begging, sleeping and giving births like dogs. i know you are a product of such up bringing, its a pity, but do you think Nigeria will ever accommodate your ppl with what you are doing to nigerians?.look at yourself again, do you look like Nigerian? tell me, are u hausa or fulani, or are u housa/fulani? you are cursed ppl spreading violence in the land everywhere you go killing and maiming innocent ppl and that made you what you are a BEAST and renowned terrorist. NKITA
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